One-and-Only PS3 as Blu-Ray Player Thread - Page 49

Wait a minute. I just ordered one to use with my 720p projector. You mean it won't downscale BD playback to 720p? Sorry, I'm just in a little shock.

so now we need some crazy person to buy a 32gb or 64gb Solid-State Disk that is SATA and plug it into their PS3

http://www.dvnation.com/nand-flash-ssd.html

Correct. You need to tell the PS3 that your maximum resolution is 1080i and then let your projector do the scaling down to 720p. Hopefully your particular projector does a nice job of this.

Actually, you don't need to tell your PS3 anything. As long as you have your top resolution set at 720p it will automatically output BD @ 1080i.

Apparently the Japanese 1.0 revision output @ 720p, but was removed afterwards, so there is hope they'll fix this. We just have to keep complaining.

Where did you find this out? Sony makes no mention of this.

That's terrible. In any case even if they did implement downscaling to 720p who knows if it would be better than what my projector does? However I would expect that with all the processing power of the PS3 they could implement something better than what my projector (Mits HD1000u) can do.

It seems that in some sense the PS3 launched quite unfinished. There are so many things we are expecting with firmware revisions. The good thing it seems is that as much as I hate Kutaragi and his utter arrogance, it seems that he is keen on pushing for uncompromised Blu-Ray playback on the PS3. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I guess someone will buy my 20GB model for $450 even next March just in case.

It's crazy how you can find things out even without official releases, isn't it?

Anyway don't act so surprised; what drive manufacturer in their right mind would waste 8MB of cache on an outmoded drive capacity?

This is the drive model of the 20GB HDD... which of course I can verify personally, since it's right here in front of me after swapping it out.

http://www.span.com/catalog/product_...044fcbffb7f238

Like I said though, the 60GB unit is 8MB. I'm not the first mention of this either - Impress Watch has already determined and published this fact as of several weeks ago.

Are there any visual differences between 720p from component vs 720p from HDMI? I mean HDMI is a full digital signal, and component converts to analog, but 720p is 720p, right?

I'm asking because when I hook my PS3 up to my HDTV with an HDMI cable, I get this red colored fog (or red bloom) all over the place. Does this seem like an PS3, HDTV, or HDMI cable issue? Has anyone seen or heard of a similar issue? Suggestions?

In the meantime I've got it hooked up via component, which displays 720p and looks just fine. But I have this nagging feeling that without the color issue HDMI would look slightly crisper...am i wrong?

There is no 720p BD output, just 1080i, from both HDMI and component.

Over in the Insiders thread, individuals working at the post-production studios (to create transfers for HD-DVD and BD) have already said there would be no such improvement. They've said if there were any differences, they wouldn't exist for more than a few seconds during the course of a feature length film.

I think your effort would be better spent on pushing all studios to use 24/48 TrueHD or DTS-HD MA tracks like FOX, rather than lower fidelity 16/48 LPCM. There's also no reason that a BD50 release should have 16/48 audio, yet many do.

The red colored fog that you are getting is a HDMI compatibility issue. I use to get that with my older LCD TV and some sources. Can you change the color sampling on your TV? That is how I resolved my issues.

Well in no small part due to your comments I just picked up a 60GB PS3 from ebay for only a 1/2 pound of flesh and not the full pound. I was determined to wait for the Pioneer but after the raves on the PS3 playback ability I can't hold back.

Count me in among those that purchased for BD playback and not for gaming. Time to research and find out what titles are worth owning.

Couldn't hurt though. No reason to leave 10Mbps on the table.

As far as picture quality is concerned, we have seen new VC-1 encodes to have better quality than the earlier ones (going by what I have read) -- more visually transparent than earlier ones according to some, if that is possible. This goes against what some insiders were saying.

My logic tells me that extra 10Mbps should be better. It is always good to use the bandwidth if it is available, IMO, especially since capacity is there on 50GB.

I am not against Audio petition either, but less interested!

Not sure. I'm in Taiwan with a Toshiba 32HL86, and I can't find any english reviews or advanced info. Currently I only have control over the minimal settings from the TV menu, and that doesn't help much.

Any ideas on how I could access color sampling controls?

I just have ONE question. Will PS3 Decode DD TruHD 5.1 7.1, and DTS-HD 5.1 7.1 into PCM ?

If not will it be able to output the signal Via HDMI for a receiver to decode?

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It does. Though there is only one title that uses TrueHD on BD and the PS3 doesn't seem to want to read it (Legends of Jazz Showcase).


Not yet. Maybe next firmware.


Yes to both. TrueHD for HDMI 1.2. DTS HDMA for HDMI 1.3. Currently there are no receivers that can decode either TrueHD or HDMA.


fuad

I just got my PS3 (20G) yesterday. first thing I did was hook it up via HDMI to my VPL-VW50. I got tired of staring at a black screen, so I decided to read the PS3's manual. I connected the composite to the projector and went thru the initialization steps. I figured the two SONY components must work together, so I blamed the HDMI cables. 3 diferent HDMI cables of various lengths later. I was convinced the PS3 is at fault.

I also have an iMac and so I used those same 3 HDMI interconnects. iMac showed a most beautiful image when I connected to the VPL-VW50. No preferences, no nothing, it just worked!

You have video drops but I have no video at all when I use HDMI. I do get surround out of the PS3's toslink.

I wish someone would tell me I did something wrong and point me in the right direction. So I can watch all those Blue-Ray movies Netflix has just shipped out to me.

-=cisco=-

I had same problem. You need to specify HDMI output. The PS3 defaults to composite out of the box. Using the composite cable, just use the menu go to display settings and then video output settings and set to HDMI, it should work.

There's a new firmware update out - v1.3. With regard to Blu-ray, the most significant addition is that you can now select what colour format to output with - RGB or Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr. Previously they'd been doing processing with 16-bit per component RGB, but that still has short comings versus the discs' native Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr. So now you can output with the latter if your display supports it.

There's also some changes to the resolution options. It lets you check and uncheck the resolutions you want the system to output in, and prioritises them as follows:

1080p>1080i>720p>480p


Which means the XMB itself will default to 1080i etc. if both 1080i and 720p are checked, for example. If you don't select 1080i as an allowable resolution, it will downscale BD to 480p. Games that are 720p native will still display at 720p even if you have 1080i checked, but games at 1080p will scale to 1080i now instead of 720p (if you have 1080i checked)..which may or may not look better depending on your TV.

When you flip power switch to turn on the PS3, hold the front power button for a few sec until you hear the short beep. The PS3 should auto-select the active display for you (make sure the TV is already active).

Does the PS3 support "native" video output, so it will not do any scaling, and will output, via HDMI, the native rate of the source (i.e. it will output 480i for standard-def DVDs and 1080p if a 1080p Blu-Ray DVD is played, etc.)? The reason I ask is because I have an Anthem D2 preamp, which has a built-in Gennum scaler, and I prefer that any scaling be done by my Anthem and not the PS3 or my display.

It's out?? Version 1.3???

Edit: Yes, it is. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=763668

Where is the colour format option, didn't see it under display soooo? There is certainly an improvement for me with how resolutions are now handled with the new hierarchy . I no longer need to switch settings when playing a 720p game, my display supports 1080i (native) and upscales 720p . Good so far.

It's under BD/DVD settings.

Has anyone played with the "Image Quality Adjustements" yet??? I see virtually no changes, and was wondering if anybody has done the homework and found the "optimal" settings.

per the manual:
Image Quality Adjustment
The Image Quality Adjustment button allows you to adjust the noise reduction level of content played under (Video) while watching a BD/DVD. You may select from among four levels, the higher the level the higher the image filtering. This means the higher the level the clearer the picture quality.

NOTE

Image noise corresponds to visible grain or particles present in the image. In the context of digital image processing, the term noise usually refers to the high frequency random perturbations of color values of size close to 1 pixel, which are generally caused by the electronic noise in the input device sensor and circuitry (e.g. scanner, digital camera).

Ok,

so the newest firmware still won't allow 720P output of 1080P BD movie discs?

Grrr.

Just bought the PS3 (20 gig) and LOVE IT... but I can tell that going to my 1280 x 720 projector in its native resolution would probably look better than the bob/weave deinterlacing it does to incoming 1080i.

Any news on this?

Yep. 1080i max on 720p displays. If you pick 720p as your maximum resolution it will default to 480p, therefore you have to pick 1080i even though you have a 720p display. Frustrating as hell. They'll get around to fixing it one of these years.

Anyone know who to complain to about this?

I've looked in a lot of places and I still can't find any news on this specific issue. I would really really love to be able to be able to have the ps3 send my tv sources at native 720p. At some point in late 2007 or early 2008 I plan on buying a 1080p tv, but for now I'd rather have 720p than 1080i deinterlacing and upscaling.

A question about your ps3. My friend just bought a 20gb model and he is having issues with the hdmi output to his tv. When I got my 60gb model on launch day I brought it over to his house and hooked it up to his plasma with my hdmi cable. So his tv definitely isn't the problem, it's either his ps3 or his hdmi cable.

I've heard from all over this forum that even the cheap cables should work fine for hdmi, so I'm wondering if it's his ps3. However, I also remember that a receiver he bought that had hdmi inputs and outputs wouldn't work on his tv via hdmi. The common thread there is that he was using the same hdmi cable that his ps3 is currently hooked up to. So what about you? Are you using hdmi fine on your tv and ps3?

Brandon