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Originally Posted by Krandor View Post

I will try that tonight. I was just trying to save some cabling with a single audio out cable from the TV to the Onkyo.

I did see the bitsteam setting, but it was far from clear what it did except for a warning that some content may not play so I left it alone.

The optical output of most, if not all TVs will NOT pass multichannel audio from an external source. It will turn everything into 2-channel LPCM. The only multichannel you can get from a TV's optical output is from its own tuners.

This is stupid, of course, because otherwise we could all be using our expensive new TVs as the sophisticated AV switchers that actually are.

But until you get an HDMI AVR you will need to connect your digital audio outputs directly to your existing AVR to get multichannel sound.
post #15032 of 32083
Brandon,

Thank you for those links. I had not seen those two posts. I, as well, found it curious that what Secrets was claiming did not jive with the results I witnessed when I purchased a PS3 several weeks ago and ran HQV and HD DVE. Now it makes sense. Regards...Will
post #15033 of 32083
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

The optical output of most, if not all TVs will NOT pass multichannel audio from an external source. It will turn everything into 2-channel LPCM. The only multichannel you can get from a TV's optical output is from its own tuners.

This is stupid, of course, because otherwise we could all be using our expensive new TVs as the sophisticated AV switchers that actually are.

But until you get an HDMI AVR you will need to connect your digital audio outputs directly to your existing AVR to get multichannel sound.

I did not realize that. Thanks for the info and completely explains what I was seeing. Oh well - it seemed like a good idea at the time. So the optical on the TV does me no good then since everything comes external.

I'm still in the middle of rewiring everything to support the new HD TV so it isn't a big deal. I'll just need to adjust a few things and buy me some more optical cables on the way home.

I do plan to get an HDMI AVR in the next few months, but couldn't swing that and the plasma at the same time. I'll get there.

So once I fix that, I am still better off the PS3 switching to Bitstream mode? I wish some of the PS3 settings were explained a bit better.
post #15034 of 32083
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Originally Posted by Krandor View Post

I did not realize that. Thanks for the info and completely explains what I was seeing. Oh well - it seemed like a good idea at the time. So the optical on the TV does me no good then since everything comes external.

I'm still in the middle of rewiring everything to support the new HD TV so it isn't a big deal. I'll just need to adjust a few things and buy me some more optical cables on the way home.

I do plan to get an HDMI AVR in the next few months, but couldn't swing that and the plasma at the same time. I'll get there.

So once I fix that, I am still better off the PS3 switching to Bitstream mode? I wish some of the PS3 settings were explained a bit better.

Go to www.blu-ray.com and search for-Audio and the PS3. Good Info. for beginners.
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I bought a 40Gig PS3 after reading this forum, primarily for BR movies. It is unreal compared to stand alone players IMHO. I turn on my projector, which takes a minute or two to warm up and turn on, then turn on my power protector, and put in a BRD. Before my projector turns on, I hear the music from the BR movie. It's really something else. I use the Nyko remote, which I've programmed into my Harmony 890 pro and so far so good.

But I just thought of something and don't think it'll work. I bought a new camcorder about a year ago, which uses the mini-DVDs (I think 3,5", but it's whatever the standard size it). Most horizonal DVD players have a tray with a mini DVD inside the standard DVD tray. As you know, the PS3 slot loads. I think this means that the mechanism has no way to play mini-DVDs, is this correct?

I don't want to try it and have it get stuck. I could always (I think) burn the movies onto a normal sized DVD, but it sort of kills the benefit of using the DVD camcorder, which is record and play with no middle steps.
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My apologies if this question has been asked before, but is it possible to output video via HDMI, while outputting 2-ch analog audio via the A/V multi-port? I'm asking this question because it's likely that I'll be able to upgrade to an HDMI display at an earlier point than being able to upgrade to an HDMI AVR, and my current (2-ch) one is so ghetto that it doesn't even have an optical or coax digital input!
post #15037 of 32083
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Originally Posted by nahtanoj View Post

I bought a 40Gig PS3 after reading this forum, primarily for BR movies ... I use the Nyko remote, which I've programmed into my Harmony 890 pro and so far so good.

Does the Nyko/Harmony 890 have a button for select (display) and Audio? I find that I use those functions on the BT remote quite often.
post #15038 of 32083
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Originally Posted by Joseph Goodman View Post

My apologies if this question has been asked before, but is it possible to output video via HDMI, while outputting 2-ch analog audio via the A/V multi-port? I'm asking this question because it's likely that I'll be able to upgrade to an HDMI display at an earlier point than being able to upgrade to an HDMI AVR, and my current (2-ch) one is so ghetto that it doesn't even have an optical or coax digital input!

Yes it does. That's how mine is set up at the moment. Getto, I know.
post #15039 of 32083
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Originally Posted by manikin View Post

select the file in media server (DNLA - tversity) hit the green triangle (option) select copy file.

thanks! hmm! tversity can not play it back, even sample. it is 4.11 gb file! you think once transfered to ps3 hard disc, would it work?
post #15040 of 32083
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Originally Posted by nahtanoj View Post

I bought a 40Gig PS3 after reading this forum, primarily for BR movies. It is unreal compared to stand alone players IMHO. I turn on my projector, which takes a minute or two to warm up and turn on, then turn on my power protector, and put in a BRD. Before my projector turns on, I hear the music from the BR movie. It's really something else. I use the Nyko remote, which I've programmed into my Harmony 890 pro and so far so good.

But I just thought of something and don't think it'll work. I bought a new camcorder about a year ago, which uses the mini-DVDs (I think 3,5", but it's whatever the standard size it). Most horizonal DVD players have a tray with a mini DVD inside the standard DVD tray. As you know, the PS3 slot loads. I think this means that the mechanism has no way to play mini-DVDs, is this correct?

I don't want to try it and have it get stuck. I could always (I think) burn the movies onto a normal sized DVD, but it sort of kills the benefit of using the DVD camcorder, which is record and play with no middle steps.

No - just buy a few of these

http://www.amazon.com/Pocket-Adapter.../dp/B000067VBS
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

I am aware that this issue has been covered 1M times and have read the postings and have set up my BD to bitstream, using HDMI for Video and Optical for audio and yet getting no sound at all, have checked the cables and they are connected right, what could the cause be?

This is getting me frustrated and embarrassed on top of it all.

"I'm using optical out instead of HDMI for audio. How should I set my audio output settings, PCM or Bitstream?
Set it to Bitstream."

Say I DON'T BITE, would appreciate some one to respond something. Set up my Yamaha receiver 5890 to Audio= Auto, so that what ever sound the BD was transmitting would receive and yet, NOTHING. This PS3 is a little tough
so far for me anyways to set up, finally met my match.
post #15042 of 32083
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Originally Posted by lchiu7 View Post

No - just buy a few of these

http://www.amazon.com/Pocket-Adapter.../dp/B000067VBS

Aside from the fact that they're listed as out of stock and unknown when they'll be available again, such a kludge looks like an invitation to destroy any slot-loading drive.

Just do what I do - put the mini-DVD into the tray on your PC and copy it to a full-sized DVR. Blanks DVDs are cheap and most DVD camcorders can use either mini DVD+RW or -RW discs. My Sony can (I forget which it prefers however).
post #15043 of 32083
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

Say I DON'T BITE, would appreciate some one to respond something. Set up my Yamaha receiver 5890 to Audio= Auto, so that what ever sound the BD was transmitting would receive and yet, NOTHING. This PS3 is a little tough
so far for me anyways to set up, finally met my match.

I'm using optical out to my 5960 with no issues. Make sure you set your Audio options on the PS3 to output DD and DTS (if your receiver can decode both) and you'll be fine for basic 5.1 sound.
post #15044 of 32083
Zapper - should be woking as you have it. Did you try different cables, other inputs on the AVR, other devices with optical out? Go back thru the Sound Settings -> Audio Output Settings and make sure you selected Optical out.

Try doing a reset by pressing the power button for awhile until it beeps (something like 3-5 times). This will revert the unit to out of box condition.
post #15045 of 32083
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Originally Posted by LameLefty View Post

Aside from the fact that they're listed as out of stock and unknown when they'll be available again, such a kludge looks like an invitation to destroy any slot-loading drive.

Just do what I do - put the mini-DVD into the tray on your PC and copy it to a full-sized DVR. Blanks DVDs are cheap and most DVD camcorders can use either mini DVD+RW or -RW discs. My Sony can (I forget which it prefers however).

The OP didn't want to copy his discs to full size. I used to use these all the time when trying to play the smaller CD's in slot drives. I never destroyed a drive but since then I have had to use them because I have no drives that are slot feed (apart from the PS3 but I don't have a DVD-cam).

Didn't notice they were out of stock.
post #15046 of 32083
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Originally Posted by ALLIANCE68 View Post

Go to www.blu-ray.com and search for-Audio and the PS3. Good Info. for beginners.

ZAPPER Try the above post.
post #15047 of 32083
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Originally Posted by LameLefty View Post

I'm using optical out to my 5960 with no issues. Make sure you set your Audio options on the PS3 to output DD and DTS (if your receiver can decode both) and you'll be fine for basic 5.1 sound.

Thanks for your responses:

Gee whiz, I can't even get to first base with this PS3, went to the Audio settings and when I get to the optical and choose the 5.1 and dts box also noticed that the 2 Channel PCM are also checked but are grayed out. How do you get out off the so called window after choosing the correct 2 boxes? having problem saving the corrections.
post #15048 of 32083
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

Thanks for your responses:

Gee whiz, I can't even get to first base with this PS3, went to the Audio settings and when I get to the optical and choose the 5.1 and dts box also noticed that the 2 Channel PCM are also checked but are grayed out. How do you get out off the so called window after choosing the correct 2 boxes? having problem saving the corrections.

Push right pad on contoller or remote this will take you to the next screen where you can save settings. the greyed out settings are the default settings. Also make sure your receivers optical is set to the source you are using for sound.
post #15049 of 32083
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Originally Posted by jcp777 View Post

Wrong. You can update the firmware on the PS3 via a CD-R. Just go to the Sony site, download and burn the files onto a CD-R, and load it into your PS3. Simple as that.

Oh, cool. I had upgraded my HD-DVD player that way and my Oppo multiple times and initially assumed that I could do that on the PS3 and then was surprised to see it not listed as an option. Should I assume that I should use the same burning instructions?

Another option that just occurred to me: I live in an apartment building and, the last time a friend was over with his laptop, he managed to piggyback on someone else's wireless connection. Assuming that whichever neighbor has one wouldn't mind, is that possible? Or is there some technical barrier or potential problem?
post #15050 of 32083
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Originally Posted by lchiu7 View Post

The OP didn't want to copy his discs to full size. I used to use these all the time when trying to play the smaller CD's in slot drives. I never destroyed a drive but since then I have had to use them because I have no drives that are slot feed (apart from the PS3 but I don't have a DVD-cam).

What we want and what we have to do are unfortunately not always the same. All I know is the manuals for every slot-loading drive I've had so far (including a standard DVD player and the Superdrives on my last two Mac portables) have strongly advised not to use these Rube Goldberg-esque things in them to avoid risks of damage to the laser and/or loading mechanism. I'd rather not take the risk with the PS3 either. It's just not worth it to avoid a twenty minute step.

Besides, if all you want to do is WATCH the footage from the camera, just hook the cam's A/V outs to the Aux ports of your AVR or TV. My TV even has side-accessible inputs for this purpose.
post #15051 of 32083
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Originally Posted by ALLIANCE68 View Post

Push right pad on contoller or remote this will take you to the next screen where you can save settings. the greyed out settings are the default settings. Also make sure your receivers optical is set to the source you are using for sound.

Thank you finally got to first base, it is working perfectly.
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While slowly setting up my PS3 the upgrade bug has hit me, OUCH, anyways does a receiver like the Onkyo TX-SR605 7.1 with True HD, worth the money or should first ask if the difference between a non HD receiver and a true HD receiver really like night and day with the PS3 as far as audio?

The Onkyo are going for $400 and really thinking about going all the way, except my pj is a 1080i not a 1080P, that shouldn't make a difference, if any.
post #15053 of 32083
Just purchased a PS3. I am connected to the internet and have a fast download speed on my connection. But I begin to download the update and it stops before it downloads completed. I can not really get to browser until I download this update as I understand it.
post #15054 of 32083
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Originally Posted by richard korsgren View Post

Just purchased a PS3. I am connected to the internet and have a fast download speed on my connection. But I begin to download the update and it stops before it downloads completed. I can not really get to browser until I download this update as I understand it.

Did you follow the directions here

http://playstation.custhelp.com/cgi-...ZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**
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Originally Posted by chasbox View Post

Did you follow the directions here

http://playstation.custhelp.com/cgi-...ZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**

Is a 'sixaxis wireless controller' the one that comes a stanard equipment when the ps3 is purchased? The one I am using is wired into front of unit and came as part of the $400 package.
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Originally Posted by richard korsgren View Post

Is a 'sixaxis wireless controller' the one that comes a stanard equipment when the ps3 is purchased? The one I am using is wired into front of unit and came as part of the $400 package.

There's no such thing as a wired PS3 controller. The only wire is for recharging the controllers battery.

Brandon
post #15057 of 32083
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Originally Posted by richard korsgren View Post

Is a 'sixaxis wireless controller' the one that comes a stanard equipment when the ps3 is purchased? The one I am using is wired into front of unit and came as part of the $400 package.

I just got my PS3 yesterday and used the instructions in the link to download and install the update. As was said the wire is to register( if thats the right word) the controller and to charge the battery. I used the manual to get mine up and running. Online manual here
http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...ent/index.html
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

There's no such thing as a wired PS3 controller. The only wire is for recharging the controllers battery.

Brandon

Unless of course one use's it as a "wired" controller which I do. I game about 4' from my display so leave it plugged into the USB port all the time. That way it's always charged up.
post #15059 of 32083
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Unless of course one use's it as a "wired" controller which I do. I game about 4' from my display so leave it plugged into the USB port all the time. That way it's always charged up.

Well not quite true. Sony might not make a wired PS3 controller but I have a Logitech wired controller for the PS3. It has the same layout as a PS3 controller expcept no PS button and it has a builtin fan(!) that blow air out from inside the controller to cool you down when you get really excited in some games
post #15060 of 32083
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Originally Posted by zapper View Post

While slowly setting up my PS3 the upgrade bug has hit me, OUCH, anyways does a receiver like the Onkyo TX-SR605 7.1 with True HD, worth the money or should first ask if the difference between a non HD receiver and a true HD receiver really like night and day with the PS3 as far as audio?

The Onkyo are going for $400 and really thinking about going all the way, except my pj is a 1080i not a 1080P, that shouldn’t make a difference, if any.

My wife gave me the permission to purchase (very, very, very small window of opportunity, so I had to jump on it)


I just purchased the Onk 705....all I can say is "WOW".... worth every penny. So, now quit reading, and go make your purchase

My set up is Tosh XA2
PS3
Sammy 56" DLP
Onkyo 705
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