or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Blu-ray & HD DVD › Blu-ray Players › One-and-Only PS3 as Blu-Ray Player Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

One-and-Only PS3 as Blu-Ray Player Thread - Page 506

post #15151 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by KingOr28 View Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoRyq...eature=related

check out that link It looks like it is indeed possible just have to turn off both the PS3 and your TV and turn the PS3 back on first then turn on the TV after....

I remember hearing about that, and also that it doesn't work with every TV.

Assuming it works, it sucks even more that getting IR remote control of PS3 power is so difficult, because then you could program a macro to perform this sequence for you.
post #15152 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by ALLIANCE68 View Post


Please re read my OP. You didn't quote all of it so I don't know if you missed some. Read all of the pages I quoted and the notes on them also. As soon as your receiver receives a mutichannel signal with pcm it turns off the surrounds. Read page 11 for what gets turned off. Also pg.34 it sounds like a definition not what the receiver can actually do.

My reading of page 11 is that you don't get any surround "functions", that is, surround processing, like delay and speaker size. This is consistent with what I've heard about some HDMI 1.1 amps.
post #15153 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by [/quote] View Post

I read your edit. If I change my PS3 to bitstream, I will not be able to get TrueHD at all.
I see what gets turned off, but none of those should be needed since all the decoding is done in the PS3.
What item on that list gets shut off that I need to have 5 channel PCM and pass thru TrueHD?

Here's the list:
– DECODE MODE (see page 18)
– EX/ES/PLllx (see page 24)
– DUAL MONO (see page 24)
– SUBWOOFER OUT (see page 24)
– CROSSOVER (see page 25)
– LFE ATT (see page 25)
– Midnight Mode (see page 25)
– AUDIO DELAY (see page 26)
– DIGITAL EQ 63Hz/250Hz/1kHz/4kHz/16kHz (see page 28)
– BASS BOOST (see page 29)
– INPUT ATT (see page 29)
– Sound parameters for Surround/DSP modes (see pages 29
and 30)
– Surround/DSP modes (see pages 33 to 37)


I can't see where it says that in the manual. Also, I linked you to a thread filled with people who get TrueHD, they get 5 channel PCM via HDMI.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AarDee View Post

My reading of page 11 is that you don't get any surround "functions", that is, surround processing, like delay and speaker size. This is consistent with what I've heard about some HDMI 1.1 amps.

I went to the other thread and read some of the posts. You might be getting confused because they don't tell you what their player is. Now with your receiver and PS3, In HDMI PCM mode you will get 5.1 pcm but your receiver will not tell you. Basically as far as I can tell your receiver shuts off any processing and only outputs what it gets from the PS3. You get the sound but no audio indicators on the receiver (any that are on, are the defaults.) This will show multichannel only , you will not get any other indicator showing because pcm is the final process in the decoding. When you press your mode that lights up all speakers for a few seconds, you are telling it to go to direct source (play what it is getting from the PS3).That is why all of a sudden it sounds better ( 2.0 to 5.1) and is what you will have to do everytime you use the PS3.

Using the current setup 5 speakers the only major thing you will miss is the Bass Boost and sub woofer ability.
post #15154 of 32083
KingOr28,
I have my PS3 with opt out to my avr (older Onkyo HT-S580) and HDMI going to my Sony KDS-R60XBR2 and audio works on both.
post #15155 of 32083
Guys,

Help! My brand new PS3 is freezing up when I attempt to register fora Playstation Account.

I've just bought my PS3 and everything works fine EXCEPT... I can see my vista / media server files some of the time.. and I can also browse the web. I also updated the firmware to 2.1. Now for my problem. I'm trying to register a PlayStation Account and each time I try filling out the forms and I get to the last step of entering my address, the system freezes up compeltely when I select my home state of North Carolina from the list. The only way to get the system back up is to power the system completely off.

What gives? Any ideas?

bradesp
post #15156 of 32083
Just an update on my ps 3 for anyone waiting for theirs or have to send it back under warranty.I sent mine back Monday,03 at 10:00 in the am and recieved my new one today Monday,10 at 2:00 pm so it was a very quick turnaround and now everything is right with the world.
dhenry5320
post #15157 of 32083
For all the people posting here:

Is it not time to ignore a certain question that simple mortals can not answer?

Joe
post #15158 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronco70 View Post

For all the people posting here:

Is it not time to ignore a certain question that simple mortals can not answer?

Joe

I have been. Especially since the questioner seems to be automatically dismissing all the answers given.
post #15159 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronco70 View Post

For all the people posting here:

Is it not time to ignore a certain question that simple mortals can not answer?

Joe

Good idea.....

BTW, do you know if the PS3 will ever.....oh never mind.
post #15160 of 32083
I understand if I set the PS3 audio to Bitstream it will send all the legacy tracks DD 5.1 and DTS to the reciever for decoding BUT what happens when the Ps3 is set to Bitstream and you choose a TrueHD or Uncompressed track?

Does the PS3 still decode these internally and then send it to the reciever as Multi channel 5.1 (lossless)?

Or do you not get lossless at all like this when bitstream is selected in the Ps3?
post #15161 of 32083
right on que
post #15162 of 32083
Hello PS3 experts. I am looking to purchase a PS3. I don't know a whole lot about game systems but from my research, the experts like the BR player in this unit and that's all I'm interested in. I am not a gamer but my kids are. Backward compatibility to the PS2 would be a real plus since we could sell our existing PS2 system.

I was going to purchase the 80gig since it was a good fit, but as I'm sure everyone is aware, this unit has been discontinued. To get to the point, my question is this. Should a person wait to see what comes out in April/May (according to the guy at the Sony Store, there is a new high end unit coming out soon), or just purchase the 40Gig which is readily available everywhere?

Given that I am only interested in the BR player, is there any reason to wait? I can think of only one reason - the remote sucks. I am hoping that any new PS3 will have an infared remote. Any rumours on that? Comments are appreciated.
post #15163 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by wid3angle View Post

As far as I know, the PS3 cannot natively handle the Matroska (.mkv) container most people use with x264.

Google a program called mkv2vob, and run your .mkv's through it. Leave the settings at defaults. If it only needs to swap the container, it will take just a couple of minutes. If a transcode is necessary, it will take a bit longer. The software will know how to handle whatever you feed it.

You'll end up with a .vob file of similar size. Drop it in your tversity shared folder, refresh, play, and enjoy streamed HD goodness. AC3 audio seems to work nicely as well.

This particular file was DTS, is there any way, I can play it back in DTS with PS3?

some times, mkv2vob just do 5 gigs in blink, ths time it is chewing for hours lol, changing DTS to AC3
post #15164 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by bradesp View Post

Guys,

Help! My brand new PS3 is freezing up when I attempt to register fora Playstation Account.

I'm trying to register a PlayStation Account and each time I try filling out the forms and I get to the last step of entering my address, the system freezes up compeltely when I select my home state of North Carolina from the list. The only way to get the system back up is to power the system completely off.

What gives? Any ideas?

bradesp

Mine did the same thing. I got to the part where I was putting in my State and the darn thing froze. I let it sit there for 20 minutes. Nothing. Finally held down the power button and it shut off.

I tried it again and it froze up in a different spot. I was thinking to myself I guess Sony doesn't want me to sign up for an account.

I had updated to 2.1 before doing this. That was the first thing I did. Mine came with 2.0 right out of the box, my PS3 was made in October 2007.

So I tried a 3rd time. Everything worked that time. But I couldn't have the user name I wanted as it was already in use. And I know no one else is using my unique username. I ended up sticking a 1 on the end of the username. I really hated doing that.
post #15165 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by bradesp View Post

Guys,

Help! My brand new PS3 is freezing up when I attempt to register fora Playstation Account.

I've just bought my PS3 and everything works fine EXCEPT... I can see my vista / media server files some of the time.. and I can also browse the web. I also updated the firmware to 2.1. Now for my problem. I'm trying to register a PlayStation Account and each time I try filling out the forms and I get to the last step of entering my address, the system freezes up compeltely when I select my home state of North Carolina from the list. The only way to get the system back up is to power the system completely off.

What gives? Any ideas?

bradesp

I also encountered this bug. I too had updated to 2.10 and then tried to register. Crashed 4 or 5 times on the address page before I cleverly decided to fill in the state first, and then go back and up and do the rest of the entries. Then it worked fine, but STRANGE!
post #15166 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by Will Munshower View Post

I can't speak for the 100" screen, I have a 60" SXRD but the PS3 has fantastic BR picture quality and does a super job of upconverting SD DVDs. Many people, myself included, are very happy with the PS3 sitting on our HT rack.

Regarding DTS HD MA, according to some, the PS3 will never be able to bitstream the newer codecs (DD+, Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD XX) However, rumour around the campfire is that the capability will be added for the PS3 to decode MA and send it to your AVR via LPCM. Speaking for myself, that is the only feature missing that I want. I am originally an HD DVD supporter and have several DTS HD MA discs. Once you hear it you will be amazed. As long as its coming someday (we hope) I can deal with DTS 1.5 mbps for the time being.

I feel you will be very happy with one. And don't forget, it's also a helluva media server, as well. One more thing, it is the only BR player that can be upgraded to profile 2.0. This has apparently been stated by Sony that it will happen.

Best regards...Will

go here http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1002601
post #15167 of 32083
Quote:

kemiza,

With all due respect, isn't that exactly what I stated? Please correct me if I'm wrong...Will
post #15168 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by [/quote] View Post

Also, I linked you to a thread filled with people who get TrueHD, they get 5 channel PCM via HDMI.

Well, I know this is off-topic, but couldn't help but being dragged into this discussion, 'cuz I have the JVC RX-D411 (their replacement for the 403). Although I have not been a participant in the JVC thread (at least not in months), I did quite a bit of research and e-mailing to JVC shortly after I bought the AVR (and JVC CS amazingly did finally answer them). However, I can remember being very disappointed in the unit's HDMI multi-channel PCM capabilities at that time, but couldn't remember quite why, so I was curious to test this out myself (don't really use it's HDMI capabilities in its current setting). BTW, I was very happy w/ most of its other features, particularly because I got it brand spankin' new at Fry's close-out pricing (some ridiculously low price around $165.00 [maybe $200.00?]; anywhose, it was an unbelievably great deal at the time).

I bought the unit for the bedroom and never really intended to utilize it like my main Onkyo 905 AVR, which has HDMI 1.3 & 1080p capabilities. So, anyway, I pulled the PS3 out of the living room setup and hooked up the HDMI connections with the JVC and my 1080p LCD bedroom monitor. To make this long story short, I'm playing Dave Matthews Dolby TrueHD 5.1 right now and all five speaker indicators (actually 6 w/ the sub) light up. And I'd bet it is decoded Dolby TrueHD, because it does sound significantly different from the DD 5.1 track, and all 5 speakers sound. Now, I can remember why I was so disappointed in its HDMI audio performance when I first got it; it was advertised as a 7.1 multi-channel AVR, but will only do 5.1 via HDMI (and that's for all the multi-channel codecs, not only the newer HD codecs). Course, as has been pointed out, it's HDMI is pass-through only and can't apply any surround/bass channel management processing to its HDMI audio inputs; so I have been using it in the bedroom with its digital audio optical inputs. It also can not pass a 1080p signal.

But, as you already know, /quote, there's something wrong with your unit. If you have a PS3 [finally back to OT ] and really enjoy great multi-channel surround, you do owe it to yourself to get another unit (assuming you are beyond warranty repair or replacement of the JVC). Some of the Onks go for pretty cheap - and the 705 and up can do audio processing for 7.1 channels through its HDMI inputs.

BTW; [and this is for general info, because I imagine that /quote is already aware of this] . . . prolly already been mentioned, but an easy way to determine your AVR's HDMI audio capabilities with the PS3, nominally, at least, is to go to the Sound Settings, then select Audio Output Settings, select HDMI, then select Automatic and it gives them all to you right there (and I haven't seen it be wrong yet). For the JVC 411, the top L-PCM is 5.1 ch 96kHz. And thanks, /quote, for indirectly encouraging me to go through this exercise, 'cuz I feel 100% better about my lil' JVC now (actually, alway liked it; it's a very slick low-profile unit perfect for my bedroom). However, I'm very sorry that you are having the trouble you are with yours -- bummer !!!

- da Choge
post #15169 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by da Choge View Post


- da Choge

Thank you for trying it out and posting the info!

I mentioned it a few pages back so you probably didn't see it, but my receiver was actually a UL sample which would explain why it might be broke. I also don't have any warranty, but I did get it for free so I can't complain.

Even tho my indicators don't show all the speakers on like yours (and everyone elses's does), I still hear great sound. And while watching Spiderman 3 which says TrueHD on the PS3, I can clearly hear sound in only one surround speaker, so I believe I am actually getting TrueHD even if the indicator is not showing it corrrectly. Many other people have said that's probably the case in this thread too. Another thing is when i hit the Decode Mode button it makes all the indicators light up correctly, but the sound doesn't change, so that would further prove that I am getting TrueHD the whole time.

I would hate to go and spend at least $400 when I don't have to, so I will probably just keep it the way it is. If I were to get the Onkyo, I would be peeved that my receiver could do the decoding and end all my wonderings about whether TrueHD is working or not with a simple and foolproof indicator, but the PS3 doesn't support it. It sucks that I have a 1080p source and 1080p TV but I have to downgrade to 1080i because of my receiver. But I've been told that since my TV does a great job of deinterlacing I am still getting just about the same PQ as with 1080p, so that's not too bad.

Thanks everyone for the help!
post #15170 of 32083
Hey guys sorry if this has already been asked but this thread is HUGE.....I have a Denon 1908 and PS3.

The Denon 1908 can't do the brand new codecs I believe so I was just wondering which would be better to set the PS3 audio output at....Bitstream or LPCM in my case?
post #15171 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucky Strike View Post

Hey guys sorry if this has already been asked but this thread is HUGE.....I have a Denon 1908 and PS3.

The Denon 1908 can't do the brand new codecs I believe so I was just wondering which would be better to set the PS3 audio output at....Bitstream or LPCM in my case?

Unless there are people here familiar with your Denon, you should also state whether the audio is being sent over HDMI or optical, etc.

Brandon
post #15172 of 32083
On one of these forums, I read that you can only have one audio output of the PS3, not both toslink and hdmi. If I hookup the toslink on the PS3 set to bitstream audio, to a 5.1 surround sound system, does that mean the stereo hdmi audio to the television is turned off?

I'm imagining my family not putting up with the extra complexity of an external sound system. Do I change the menu settings, or physically disconnect the toslink audio cable, to get the television audio over hdmi back?
post #15173 of 32083
LPCM or Bitstream, my god read back 5 pages. The only reason this thread has 508 pages is because the same question is being asked everyday multiple times. If this keeps up I'm out of here, I can't continue to read through 3 pages a day to find 1 or 2 posts on new topics. Maybe the thread should be closed, create a new one titled "LPCM or Bitstream on the PS3" lock it and make it a sticky.
post #15174 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by batdude View Post

Hello PS3 experts. I am looking to purchase a PS3. I don't know a whole lot about game systems but from my research, the experts like the BR player in this unit and that's all I'm interested in. I am not a gamer but my kids are. Backward compatibility to the PS2 would be a real plus since we could sell our existing PS2 system.

I was going to purchase the 80gig since it was a good fit, but as I'm sure everyone is aware, this unit has been discontinued. To get to the point, my question is this. Should a person wait to see what comes out in April/May (according to the guy at the Sony Store, there is a new high end unit coming out soon), or just purchase the 40Gig which is readily available everywhere?

Given that I am only interested in the BR player, is there any reason to wait? I can think of only one reason - the remote sucks. I am hoping that any new PS3 will have an infared remote. Any rumours on that? Comments are appreciated.

You are better off just keeping the PS2 and buying the 40gig. The compatibility in the 80 gig is not 100% and you are paying an extra $100 for it. Since you can buy a new PS2 for $99, it doesn't make much sense. I have seen nothing in the way of remote changes being announced or even speculated, all I've seen hardware-wise is more colors (of the case and controllers), so I wouldn't hold out much hope for an IR port.
post #15175 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by stonecrd View Post

LPCM or Bitstream, my god read back 5 pages. The only reason this thread has 508 pages is because the same question is being asked everyday multiple times. If this keeps up I'm out of here, I can't continue to read through 3 pages a day to find 1 or 2 posts on new topics. Maybe the thread should be closed, create a new one titled "LPCM or Bitstream on the PS3" lock it and make it a sticky.


You do have a point, but starting to read through the postings takes forever and a research on the topic sometimes does not hit the particular item that the individual is looking for.

Your suggestion is a excellent one and should be looked at.
post #15176 of 32083
Hey zapper did you get a chance to go look at receivers?
post #15177 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by stonecrd View Post

LPCM or Bitstream, my god read back 5 pages. The only reason this thread has 508 pages is because the same question is being asked everyday multiple times. If this keeps up I'm out of here, I can't continue to read through 3 pages a day to find 1 or 2 posts on new topics. Maybe the thread should be closed, create a new one titled "LPCM or Bitstream on the PS3" lock it and make it a sticky.

I highly recommend this information be added to the first post or it's own sticky. I'm a noob to the audio formats so I have searched several different phrases but haven't had a lot of success. In fact, I've been reading backwards through this thread to figure out the answer to my question.

It only makes sense that if the same question gets asked several times a day that someone puts it as a sticky or in the beginning of this topic. It would, however, be rude to ignore people who come here seeking information just because they couldn't find the magic search terms.

It would be nice to see a table showing the recommended audio setting, type of connection (HDMI or Optical), and whether or not the AVR decodes the newer codecs.
post #15178 of 32083
The problem is that someone new comes in and sees 508 pages and does not know where to begin. Generally the search function is your friend but for this question in this thread you probably get 4000 hits on bitstream. So I understand how this can be daunting but what I always do when I come into a topic like this is:
1. Look is a sticky available
2. Any references on the first 1-3 pages
3. Try reading the thread starting 10 pages back from the end

By following these rules I almost always find my answer without having to post. Anyway, I'm just venting a bit because I read the same thing over and over and over again.
post #15179 of 32083
... post removed due to my ignorance of the PS3 FAQ thread that I inexplicably missed in my haste for information.
post #15180 of 32083
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bugg77 View Post

I highly recommend this information be added to the first post or it's own sticky. I'm a noob to the audio formats so I have searched several different phrases but haven't had a lot of success. In fact, I've been reading backwards through this thread to figure out the answer to my question.

It only makes sense that if the same question gets asked several times a day that someone puts it as a sticky or in the beginning of this topic. It would, however, be rude to ignore people who come here seeking information just because they couldn't find the magic search terms.

It would be nice to see a table showing the recommended audio setting, type of connection (HDMI or Optical), and whether or not the AVR decodes the newer codecs.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=979687
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Blu-ray Players
AVS › AVS Forum › Blu-ray & HD DVD › Blu-ray Players › One-and-Only PS3 as Blu-Ray Player Thread