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post #18511 of 31995
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Originally Posted by hansangb View Post

Did you convert the AACs then loaded it to PS3?

Why would he convert them? AAC is one of the codecs the PS3 supports. Unless you're referring to DRM-protected music purchased through the iTunes Music Store, in which case we have no idea if StuJac even has any of those (he didn't make any mention of it).
post #18512 of 31995
Yes, I do. I wonder if that's why the entire library wasn't copied. I have a mix; of the 500 or so songs, I'd guess about 150 or so were purchased through itunes store.
post #18513 of 31995
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Originally Posted by StuJac View Post

Yes, I do. I wonder if that's why the entire library wasn't copied. I have a mix; of the 500 or so songs, I'd guess about 150 or so were purchased through itunes store.

Ahhh, okay. In that case, yes, ITMS-purchased songs would need to be converted from the protected AAC files to something else (non-protected AAC, mp3, etc). There are a few ways of doing this, but all are somewhat tedious.
post #18514 of 31995
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Originally Posted by chris0 View Post

I just got my IR2BT today. I set it up and got it running with my Harmony 890...damn this thing rocks! I thought the Nyko BlueWave was pretty cool but it's got nothin' on the IR2BT. No lag whatsoever and every button that's on the Sony BT remote is available to me now. Right now they're hard to get but if anyone is on the fence about this thing definitely get one when you can.

chris0, does this unit connect the PS3 vis USB cable? I went to the website and could not confirm this. Thanks
post #18515 of 31995
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Originally Posted by Pugnax555 View Post

Ahhh, okay. In that case, yes, ITMS-purchased songs would need to be converted from the protected AAC files to something else (non-protected AAC, mp3, etc). There are a few ways of doing this, but all are somewhat tedious.

Thanks for the info. I was mistakenly under the impression that my dsl line went nutty during the download. I'll review the ones that copied and the ones that didn't but you probably hit it on the head.
post #18516 of 31995
Last night, I was setting up my new IR2BT remote device for my PS3 and I checking out some DVD's that I haven't watched in some time.

One of them was the Lost in Space movie on SD DVD. When I popped it into the PS3 and it started,, I was underwhelmed by the dynamics and bass.

My system is comprised of the PS3, Toshiba A2 HD DVD, Integra 7.8, a 5.1 Snell E series speaker array, a Velodyne HGS 15 and SVS PB12/Plus 2 subs.
I usually get incredible sound and bass from both HD, Blu-Ray and SD DVD's.

I took the same DVD out of the PS3 and played it in the Tosh A2. What a difference! The movie was super dynamic and full of bass, just the way that I remember it.

I'm trying to figure out what setting differentials are causing the SD DVD to sound so much better in the Toshiba A2 vs. the PS3. By the way, my Blu-Ray DVD's still sound awesome with the PS3.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mitch
post #18517 of 31995
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Originally Posted by Webmonkey View Post

Is SETI@home out for the PS3 yet?????


Is it supposed to be coming out for the PS3? If so I can find a use for my PS3 other than HD movie trailer downloads.
post #18518 of 31995
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Originally Posted by mitchmiles View Post

Last night, I was setting up my new IR2BT remote device for my PS3 and I checking out some DVD's that I haven't watched in some time.

One of them was the Lost in Space movie on SD DVD. When I popped it into the PS3 and it started,, I was underwhelmed by the dynamics and bass.

My system is comprised of the PS3, Toshiba A2 HD DVD, Integra 7.8, a 5.1 Snell E series speaker array, a Velodyne HGS 15 and SVS PB12/Plus 2 subs.
I usually get incredible sound and bass from both HD, Blu-Ray and SD DVD's.

I took the same DVD out of the PS3 and played it in the Tosh A2. What a difference! The movie was super dynamic and full of bass, just the way that I remember it.

I'm trying to figure out what setting differentials are causing the SD DVD to sound so much better in the Toshiba A2 vs. the PS3. By the way, my Blu-Ray DVD's still sound awesome with the PS3.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mitch

I've experienced the same thing on an older Bond film (with Pierce Brosnan). I don't think you have anything wrong, I'm of the opinion that the A2 is a better upconverter. This is NOT to say I find fault with the PS3-it's an amazing machine but I just think the A2 does a better job of upconverting.
post #18519 of 31995
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Originally Posted by StuJac View Post

Will this work with my Mx500?

According to the maker of the product, yes.
http://ir2bt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=304#304

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Originally Posted by Team_canada View Post

chris0, does this unit connect the PS3 vis USB cable? I went to the website and could not confirm this. Thanks

Not for any kind of communication. The USB port on the IR2BT is for power only. You can use USB or batteries. If you plug the IR2BT into the PS3 you'd have to leave the PS3 on all the time. If you were to turn off the PS3 then the IR2BT would be powered off and need to be re-paired. I plugged mine into the USB port on my DVR.

The home page sucks for info, but if you click on the Forums link there's better information there.
post #18520 of 31995
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Originally Posted by chris0 View Post

If you were to turn off the PS3 then the IR2BT would be powered off and need to be re-paired.

Though correct in not wanting to use the PS3 usb ports, loss of power will not "un-pair" the ir2bt from the ps3.
post #18521 of 31995
Hey guys when you say the PS3 won't bitstream only PCM what does that mean to me? Does that just mean the PS3 has to do all the decoding and send it to the reciever? If so why is that bad? I have a Onkyo 606 would it be better if that did the decoding?
Thanks
post #18522 of 31995
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Originally Posted by mitchmiles
Last night, I was setting up my new IR2BT remote device for my PS3 and I checking out some DVD's that I haven't watched in some time.

One of them was the Lost in Space movie on SD DVD. When I popped it into the PS3 and it started,, I was underwhelmed by the dynamics and bass.

My system is comprised of the PS3, Toshiba A2 HD DVD, Integra 7.8, a 5.1 Snell E series speaker array, a Velodyne HGS 15 and SVS PB12/Plus 2 subs.
I usually get incredible sound and bass from both HD, Blu-Ray and SD DVD's.

I took the same DVD out of the PS3 and played it in the Tosh A2. What a difference! The movie was super dynamic and full of bass, just the way that I remember it.

I'm trying to figure out what setting differentials are causing the SD DVD to sound so much better in the Toshiba A2 vs. the PS3. By the way, my Blu-Ray DVD's still sound awesome with the PS3.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mitch

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Originally Posted by StuJac View Post

I've experienced the same thing on an older Bond film (with Pierce Brosnan). I don't think you have anything wrong, I'm of the opinion that the A2 is a better upconverter. This is NOT to say I find fault with the PS3-it's an amazing machine but I just think the A2 does a better job of upconverting.

I agree that my HD XA2 is a better upconvertor with its dedicated Reon processor than my PS3 is, but I've not experienced a really sound difference that extreme in a DVD. The PS3 is a good upconverter , but its not quite a dedicated Reon processor.

But the video up conversion quality should not effect the DTS or DD sound from the PS3. Its possible the sound levels are different, and that is an issue, or his HD A3 output is being manipulated different by his AVR. But a PS3 should not have an issue with the low bit rate DD or DTS on a DVD.

Am I missing something?
post #18523 of 31995
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Originally Posted by Haroon Malik View Post

It's simple if you try to understand it in terms of baseball.


1. Two sides of 11 players each.

2. One innings for each side.

3. Each Batter (called batsman in cricket) comes to the plate (pitch) to play.

4. If he misses, nothing happens. If the ball hits the wicket (that would be the strike zone in baseball) then he is out. Three strikes don't exist. One strike and you're gone. No hit is a foul hit. Anything goes. You can connect with the ball and it can go anywhere. It will count.

5. A pitcher (bowler) pitches (bowls). The ball usually gets to the batter after hitting the ground but throwing the ball straight to the batter is also allowed. Bowling is an art. It takes skill to do it properly. Pitchers throw the ball. Bowlers have to throw the ball but the arm comes over the head like a windmill. There are and were bowlers who managed to bowl at over 90 mph which takes skill, control and strength.

6. A HOME RUN type hit is 6 runs in cricket. That's the maximum and you have plenty of them in a game. If the ball goes to the edge of the field but touches the ground then it is 4 instead of 6.

7. Just like you run from 1st base to 2nd base, you do the same in cricket but there are only two bases. The first base is where the batter is (called striker's end because he strikes the ball) and the second base is where the pitcher is (called the non-striker's end). So one person is running to first base and the other one is running in the opposite direction to second base. The two bases are always loaded in cricket. When they're not loaded it means Game Over!

9. Each time the players swap bases, it is considered 1 run.

10. The team that scores more runs wins. The cricket bat is wider compared to the baseball bat and therefore it is easier to strike therefore there are more runs in cricket.


That's a high level overview of cricket in 10 points. A starter guide to get to know the game. I hope you have a slightly better understanding of the game now.

I just wanted to say that's the best cricket analogy, I've ever heard and it just solved some confusion that I've had for years.

Its better than I could do explaining American NFL style football to some of my European friends.

Nice job.
post #18524 of 31995
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Originally Posted by Kosty View Post

I agree that my HD XA2 is a better upconvertor with its dedicated Reon processor than my PS3 is, but I've not experienced a really sound difference that extreme in a DVD. The PS3 is a good upconverter , but its not quite a dedicated Reon processor.

But the video up conversion quality should not effect the DTS or DD sound from the PS3. Its possible the sound levels are different, and that is an issue, or his HD A3 output is being manipulated different by his AVR. But a PS3 should not have an issue with the low bit rate DD or DTS on a DVD.

Am I missing something?

Should have made clear it was video only that I was comparing. Audio is exactly the same.
post #18525 of 31995
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Originally Posted by GumboChief View Post

Though correct in not wanting to use the PS3 usb ports, loss of power will not "un-pair" the ir2bt from the ps3.

Good to know, thanks.
post #18526 of 31995
with this 80 gig MGS coming out, from what I gather it has the older/larger proccessor. Do you guys see that as a downgrade or is it just as good as the one in the 40 gig model. I don't care about backward capabilities or mem cards but the two extra USB's would be nice
post #18527 of 31995
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Originally Posted by KenToizumi View Post

with this 80 gig MGS coming out, from what I gather it has the older/larger proccessor. Do you guys see that as a downgrade or is it just as good as the one in the 40 gig model. I don't care about backward capabilities or mem cards but the two extra USB's would be nice

How do you know it is coming out with the older, larger, hotter-running processor chips? I don't believe anyone really know either way at this point.
--Bob
post #18528 of 31995
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Originally Posted by KenToizumi View Post

with this 80 gig MGS coming out, from what I gather it has the older/larger proccessor. Do you guys see that as a downgrade or is it just as good as the one in the 40 gig model. I don't care about backward capabilities or mem cards but the two extra USB's would be nice

If all you care about is the USB ports, save $100, buy a 40GB, and add a $10 USB hub if you really need more than 2 ports.
post #18529 of 31995
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Originally Posted by KenToizumi View Post

Hey guys when you say the PS3 won't bitstream only PCM what does that mean to me? Does that just mean the PS3 has to do all the decoding and send it to the reciever? If so why is that bad? I have a Onkyo 606 would it be better if that did the decoding?
Thanks

it means you have to use HDMI in order to get high resolution audio (TRUEHD, etc). can't use optical cable.
post #18530 of 31995
Just picked up a PS3 today to replace my Sharp Blu Ray player. I love this thing. Took advantage of a Circuit City 18 months no payments/interest coupon. Minimum purchase was 499 so of course I had to pick up the Blu Ray remote, Rambo, and GTA IV.
post #18531 of 31995
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Originally Posted by KenToizumi View Post

Hey guys when you say the PS3 won't bitstream only PCM what does that mean to me? Does that just mean the PS3 has to do all the decoding and send it to the reciever? If so why is that bad? I have a Onkyo 606 would it be better if that did the decoding?
Thanks

The PS3 will not bitstream HD audio. In order to listen to them, you must set your PS3 to LPCM and pass the decoded signals to your 606 via HDMI. Your 606 will show it is receiving PCM, and will NOT show DTS Master HD or Dolby True HD on the display.
post #18532 of 31995
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Originally Posted by union1411 View Post

it means you have to use HDMI in order to get high resolution audio (TRUEHD, etc). can't use optical cable.

The poster's 606 does have HDMI and even if the PS3 did bitstream the new audio formats, you still need HDMI to hear them.
post #18533 of 31995
Thanks guys a little clearer now. So it will send all the advanced formats to the 606, but just won't display it on the screen of the 606.
post #18534 of 31995
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Originally Posted by KenToizumi View Post

Thanks guys a little clearer now. So it will send all the advanced formats to the 606, but just won't display it on the screen of the 606.

Correct, it sends the signal already decoded....the 604 which can't decode the new formats can still play them back if you send them PCM. I talked a friend who has a PS3 to buy a used 604 for 1/4 the price of the 606 since he wasn't going to upgrade beyond the PS3 anytime soon. No need spending money on something you won't use.
post #18535 of 31995
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Originally Posted by Pugnax555 View Post

Why would he convert them? AAC is one of the codecs the PS3 supports. Unless you're referring to DRM-protected music purchased through the iTunes Music Store, in which case we have no idea if StuJac even has any of those (he didn't make any mention of it).


thanks guys. I was trying to avoid the tedious process of converting, saving, importing the DRM-protected songs.

I thought there was something I was missing, but I guess not.

thanks again everyone.
post #18536 of 31995
Guy's something weird happen to me today playing a BL disk on my PS3 the Golden Compass, last night I sort of calibrated my Zanyo Z2000 and previously watched the Golden Compass. This evening inserted the same BL disk on the PS3 and started playing for about 1 minute and then my screen went blank, zip, nothing, so decided to play a regular dvd on the Playstation and it played fine.

Never had this problem, has any one else encounter this??? What could be the cause???
post #18537 of 31995
I have had my new Panasonic plasma tv (50pz800u) for 2 days now, which I partially bought to replace a Sony LCD because I thought it made my small Blu-Ray collection look so-so and grainy. After 2 days though, I am a tad dissapointed.

Although the BD movies do look a little smoother on this brand new 1080p plasma, I have still yet to play a Blu-Ray movie at home on my PS3 that looked anything like the crispness that I saw demonstrated in stores like BB or CC. I am not knocking the PS3...I love it to death...the gaming is amazing. I think the PS3 also does such an incredible job at upconverting, that I sometimes can't tell much of a difference between Blu-Ray and upconverted SD. At best, the difference in PQ for me is minimal. At worst, it looks almost exactly like upconverted SD.

Do the in-store 'sample clip' demo's at the retailers have a higher bitrate than most BD movies? Perhaps this is what leads to unrealistic expectations. Maybe I expect too much.

I just found this forum and going to research here to find recommended Blu-Ray movies, but I'm a bit dissapointed that I haven't found anything that has truly blown me away yet. I'll also look at recommended PS3 BD settings...though I have experimented with them all.

Not a fanboy of anything particular in any way, so please don't attack.
post #18538 of 31995
I've been thinking a similar thing. How do the studios make blue ray disks? Do they sometimes just upcovert the dvd version?
post #18539 of 31995
Hey all im sure this questions been asked 1000 times here but I cant summon the patience to search through 600 pages for the answer. I just bought the new mits 65735 tv this is my first 1080p set had a 1080i rptv so old didnt even do 720p but first on the block with HD. Anyway what should I have my video settings on the ps3 dialed into to display on this. thanks for any help.
post #18540 of 31995
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Originally Posted by DVD Freaky View Post

I have had my new Panasonic plasma tv (50pz800u) for 2 days now, which I partially bought to replace a Sony LCD because I thought it made my small Blu-Ray collection look so-so and grainy. After 2 days though, I am a tad dissapointed.

Although the BD movies do look a little smoother on this brand new 1080p plasma, I have still yet to play a Blu-Ray movie at home on my PS3 that looked anything like the crispness that I saw demonstrated in stores like BB or CC. I am not knocking the PS3...I love it to death...the gaming is amazing. I think the PS3 also does such an incredible job at upconverting, that I sometimes can't tell much of a difference between Blu-Ray and upconverted SD. At best, the difference in PQ for me is minimal. At worst, it looks almost exactly like upconverted SD.

Do the in-store 'sample clip' demo's at the retailers have a higher bitrate than most BD movies? Perhaps this is what leads to unrealistic expectations. Maybe I expect too much.

I just found this forum and going to research here to find recommended Blu-Ray movies, but I'm a bit dissapointed that I haven't found anything that has truly blown me away yet. I'll also look at recommended PS3 BD settings...though I have experimented with them all.

Not a fanboy of anything particular in any way, so please don't attack.

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Originally Posted by tamahome02000 View Post

I've been thinking a similar thing. How do the studios make blue ray disks? Do they sometimes just upcovert the dvd version?

Let's just say not all Blu-rays are created equal!!
As an example look at the original Blu-ray release of The 5th Element & the re-release, it's a huge difference.
Movies like Casino Royal, 300 & animated shows like Cars & Ratatouille show you how it's supposed to be done!
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