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post #21181 of 32084
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Originally Posted by themoose View Post

since i found a pdf of the ps3 manual in about 15 seconds i'm guessing you didn't even bother to look & want someone else to just hand you a link.
It won't be me!

pwnt

On another note, I put a 120gig in my PS3 last night. Took about 3 minutes of labor. Back up and restore took about 20 mins each. Very nice.
post #21182 of 32084
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Originally Posted by black_macleod View Post

pwnt

On another note, I put a 120gig in my PS3 last night. Took about 3 minutes of labor. Back up and restore took about 20 mins each. Very nice.

With all the demos, HD trailers & downloadable content on the Playstation store that is something I'm going to have to do myself soon.
post #21183 of 32084
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Originally Posted by TheMoose View Post

Since I found a PDF of the PS3 manual in about 15 seconds I'm guessing you didn't even bother to look & want someone else to just hand you a link.
It won't be me!

as a side note any company that does not have info available like manuals on line is so far behind the times that i would not even bother doing buisness with them. in my opinion having or not having on line documentation shows what i can expect for support in the future. a company like Sony most definetly has these documents aviailable if one needs them. Took me less than 5 minutes to find and download it... just did it.
post #21184 of 32084
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Originally Posted by black_macleod View Post

On another note, I put a 120gig in my PS3 last night. Took about 3 minutes of labor. Back up and restore took about 20 mins each. Very nice.

I have a 250GB drive on order from newegg.com. Should be here Tuesday, can't wait! Only 20 minutes, when I started my backup it said it would take about 1 hour 20 minutes.

I'll be a nice human and even post a link to the PS3 manuals for the guy looking for them (I think this is what you want): http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/Manuals/PS3

So some people don't like to search for things, dosen't mean we can't be a nice community and help them out.
post #21185 of 32084
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Originally Posted by rolltide1017 View Post

I have a 250GB drive on order from newegg.com. Should be here Tuesday, can't wait! Only 20 minutes, when I started my backup it said it would take about 1 hour 20 minutes.

I'll be a nice human and even post a link to the PS3 manuals (I think this is what you're looking for): http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/Manuals/PS3

So some people don't like to search for things, dosen't mean we can't be a nice community and help them out.

The PDF's available from that link are only for the small paper booklets that come packaged with the PS3. Useful of course, but not what most people think of as the PS3 manual.

Sony still only publishes their detailed user's manual for the PS3 in a web based form -- not a PDF:

http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...ent/index.html

--Bob
post #21186 of 32084
One quick question...........

I purchased a PS3 last night at BB. The guy told me it was a different version in that it was an 80g for the price of the 40g which is $399.99. He went on to say that the difference was that this PS3 would not play PS2 games. I could care less if it does or not since I don't have any PS2 games and don't plan on really gaming anyways. I still haven't opened the PS3 in fear of it not having certain features other than playing PS2 games, reason why I'm asking. So are there any other features this version of PS3 doesn't have that I should know of before I open it up?

Thanks!
post #21187 of 32084
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Originally Posted by r8rs4lf View Post

One quick question...........

I purchased a PS3 last night at BB. The guy told me it was a different version in that it was an 80g for the price of the 40g which is $399.99. He went on to say that the difference was that this PS3 would not play PS2 games. I could care less if it does or not since I don't have any PS2 games and don't plan on really gaming anyways. I still haven't opened the PS3 in fear of it not having certain features other than playing PS2 games, reason why I'm asking. So are there any other features this version of PS3 doesn't have that I should know of before I open it up?

Thanks!

The new 80GB unit you are describing wasn't expected to be out until September. The early word is that it will be identical to the current 40GB unit but with the larger disc drive. In terms of features, that would mean:

2 USB sockets instead of 4
No memory card sockets for loading in pictures or whatever
No PS2 or PS game compatibility
No ability to play SACD audio discs

In addition, it may come with the Sixaxis controller instead of the vibrating Dual-Shock controller.

Blu-Ray and PS3 game play would be the same, and it would still have Wifi networking capability built in.

The other thing we don't know is whether they have made any processor changes to make the unit run cooler -- i.e., less chance the fan has to kick in.

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I suggest you check the text on the outside of the box. If it says it has an 80GB disc but does *NOT* say that it can play SACD discs or PS games, then you may very well have one of the anticipated, new 80GB units -- which, I think would be our first report here.
--Bob
post #21188 of 32084
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The new 80GB unit you are describing wasn't expected to be out until September. The early word is that it will be identical to the current 40GB unit but with the larger disc drive. In terms of features, that would mean:

2 USB sockets instead of 4 Correct
No memory card sockets for loading in pictures or whatever Correct
No PS2 or PS game compatibility Correct
No ability to play SACD audio discs Don't know what this is

In addition, it may come with the Sixaxis controller instead of the vibrating Dual-Shock controller. It has the Dual shock controller

Blu-Ray and PS3 game play would be the same, and it would still have Wifi networking capability built in.

The other thing we don't know is whether they have made any processor changes to make the unit run cooler -- i.e., less chance the fan has to kick in.

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I suggest you check the text on the outside of the box. If it says it has an 80GB disc but does *NOT* say that it can play SACD discs or PS games, then you may very well have one of the anticipated, new 80GB units -- which, I think would be our first report here.
--Bob

The one thing he did mention was there is supposed to be another different version of the PS3 out this holiday season that is supposed to play everything. Not that it really matters to me regarding gaming, but I wonder if there would be any other changes I might like. I wonder if I should just wait for that version before jumping the gun on this one.
post #21189 of 32084
Well it sounds like you got one of the anticipated, new, 80GB units!

Could you look on your Best Buy receipt and report the SKU number of the unit you bought (i.e., BB's internal product number)? That way people can check for it more easily on-line and in stores.

Also, do me a favor when you open it up and look in the "Safety" booklet that comes with it for the specifications page. I'd like you to report what it says as the maximum power consumption of the unit. It will likely be something like 280 Watts. That number will help us tell if they've made any electronic changes inside the unit.

In addition, look at the label with the bar-code on the box for a model number. Something like "CCEH12345". Report that too if you find it.

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Oh, and as for newer units -- there will ALWAYS be newer units "coming soon" -- no matter when you buy. Only you can judge how important it is to you to have a unit now.
--Bob
post #21190 of 32084
I bought a 40g PS3 on Thursday but it had problems with the controller not being able to be reconized by the base unit. When I bought it they had 6 of the 40g on the shelf and none of the 80g units at Best Buy. I returned my PS3 on Friday thinking I could swap it for another 40G but they were suddenly sold out! But they had 8 of the 80g units.

So I went with a 80g unit considering I can get double the storage, SACD playback, PS1 & PS2, 4 USB's, Multi-card reader, dual shock controller, and Metal Gear Solid 4 all for $100 more. I don't want to wait and see if the new PS3's will have the ability to play PS1 and 2 games.

In my book it is a better package deal than the 40g I first got.
post #21191 of 32084
I recently tried loading a single Folder of 85 Photos from a USB Memory Stick to my PS3 . When the Copy was finished I had one folder with 82 Photos and another folder with 3 Photos . Any idea why the PS3 would do this ? Any idea on how I can move those 3 Photos into the Folder with the others ?

I'm still in a "Microsoft" mindset and trying to use tools that don't exist in the XMB , so any help would be appreciated .

Scott...................
post #21192 of 32084
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The PDF's available from that link are only for the small paper booklets that come packaged with the PS3. Useful of course, but not what most people think of as the PS3 manual.

Sony still only publishes their detailed user's manual for the PS3 in a web based form -- not a PDF:

http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...ent/index.html

--Bob

ok i'll be nice as well
http://www.playstation.com/manual/pdf/PS3-01-1.6_1.pdf
post #21193 of 32084
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Originally Posted by Scott_R_K View Post

I recently tried loading a single Folder of 85 Photos from a USB Memory Stick to my PS3 . When the Copy was finished I had one folder with 82 Photos and another folder with 3 Photos . Any idea why the PS3 would do this ? Any idea on how I can move those 3 Photos into the Folder with the others ?

Probably because it doesn't let you group things by arbitrary folder (which is really annoying). They are grouped by things like date, and you probably have 82 photos taken in one month and the others in the next month. It would be much better to have the ability to create folders and move files between them.
post #21194 of 32084
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Originally Posted by r8rs4lf View Post

The one thing he did mention was there is supposed to be another different version of the PS3 out this holiday season that is supposed to play everything. Not that it really matters to me regarding gaming, but I wonder if there would be any other changes I might like. I wonder if I should just wait for that version before jumping the gun on this one.

Did it come with Metal Gear Solid 4? If so, its the older bundle that does play PS2 games.
post #21195 of 32084
Just a quick update guys, I had previously posted about my 40gb unit having a fan come on.

Well I moved the PS3 to a different section of my TV stand. This section simply has more room above the PS3 than the other part did. I've ran it about 3-4 hours worth of movies and there was no fan that came on that I could hear (just the "basic" one came on but I couldn't hear that until I went right up to it).

So location seemed to be the key to me. Just allowed a little more ventilation and haven't had the issue since.
post #21196 of 32084
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Originally Posted by cappyxavs View Post

ok i'll be nice as well
http://www.playstation.com/manual/pdf/PS3-01-1.6_1.pdf

That's the PDF for the "Safety and Support" booklet that comes bundled with each PS3. It's not the same as Sony's on-line user manual for the PS3 which goes into details about the Settings among other things.
--Bob
post #21197 of 32084
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

That's the PDF for the "Safety and Support" booklet that comes bundled with each PS3. It's not the same as Sony's on-line user manual for the PS3 which goes into details about the Settings among other things.
--Bob

Appearently it is well then that's the link for the safety and support booklet that comes bundled with each ps3 and i was still a nice person for posting it.

does any one really need the Manual? Honestly i read nothing about my ps3 i just turned it on and started using it??? it's pretty much straight forward network connection, mac address, system settings, online access, sony shop, BD settings, audio settings, aspect settings, what's hard about it? it's all icon support and pretty much self explanitory. if sony gave me nothing paper with this unit i would have still had it up and running in 10 minutes that simple as i have never even opened any of the manuals that came with the unit.
post #21198 of 32084
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Originally Posted by cappyxavs View Post

Appearently it is well then that's the link for the safety and support booklet that comes bundled with each ps3 and i was still a nice person for posting it.

does any one really need the other instructions honestly i read nothing about my ps3 i just turned it on and started using it??? it's pretty much straight forward network connections, mac addresses system settings, online access, sony shop, BD settings, audio settings, aspect settings, what's hard about it? it's all icon support and pretty much self explanitory. if sony gave me nothing with this unit i would have it up and running in 10 minutes that simple.

No argument there. Its default settings are well chosen too -- with one exception. (SuperWhite=ON really should be the default.)

Nevertheless we get plenty of questions in here which are answered in that Sony on-line manual for the PS3. Personally, I'd prefer to be able to download a PDF of it as well, but lacking that, the on-line version is still a good resource.
--Bob
post #21199 of 32084
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

No argument there. Its default settings are well chosen too -- with one exception. (SuperWhite=ON really should be the default.)

Nevertheless we get plenty of questions in here which are answered in that Sony on-line manual for the PS3. Personally, I'd prefer to be able to download a PDF of it as well, but lacking that, the on-line version is still a good resource.
--Bob

yeah i agree there really should be a straight forward pdf manual that goes through the basic set up and operating procedures at least. The fact that the ps3 is so easy to set up and use is one of the reasons i like this unit so much.
post #21200 of 32084
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Originally Posted by cappyxavs View Post

does any one really need the Manual? Honestly i read nothing about my ps3 i just turned it on and started using it??? it's pretty much straight forward network connection, mac address, system settings, online access, sony shop, BD settings, audio settings, aspect settings, what's hard about it? it's all icon support and pretty much self explanitory. if sony gave me nothing paper with this unit i would have still had it up and running in 10 minutes that simple as i have never even opened any of the manuals that came with the unit.

I agree that for the most part the PS3 is pretty straightforward and intuitive. But can you tell me (without looking at the online manual), what the differences between Bitmapping Type 1, 2, and 3 are? Or how the various video upscaler options work?

I realize that most people look down on the idea of reading a manual (ironically they then come and ask questions of those of us who do), but there are absolutely times when it is indispensable as a reference.
post #21201 of 32084
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Originally Posted by Pugnax555 View Post

I agree that for the most part the PS3 is pretty straightforward and intuitive. But can you tell me (without looking at the online manual), what the differences between Bitmapping Type 1, 2, and 3 are? Or how the various video upscaler options work?

I realize that most people look down on the idea of reading a manual (ironically they then come and ask questions of those of us who do), but there are absolutely times when it is indispensable as a reference.

there are cases such as the ones you stated when i will run accross certain options such as those that i will think "let me reference the manual for these particular functions" and if i can't find it then i'll post here.

i don't think most people look down on those who read the entire manual, at least i do not, you will probrably find that little easter egg long before i do if anyone actually looks down at someone for reading the literature that came with the equipment they are very silly.

i'm going to re-phrase my statement and say in my opinion those of us who have been AV enthusiasts over the past few decades and have followed a lot of the new and upcomming (not only who bought simply who just studied it) will more than likely be able to set up 95% of the ps3 and most any player, reciever or tv for that matter without the need of the manual. most of those people will ref the manual for that 5% then assist people here that struggle with new technology.

i can tell you for sure that my father would never get this machine up and running and if he did the fw would never be updated and it would be hooked up with composit rca cables because he would not understand why the rf output is missing. he still uses his vcr which he prefers over his dvd player and has no clue what a dvr could do for him i've tried to convince him to get a dvr or tivo for years but he won't have anything to do with it.
post #21202 of 32084
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Originally Posted by cappyxavs View Post

there are cases such as the ones you stated when i will run accross certain options such as those that i will think "let me reference the manual for these particular functions" and if i can't find it then i'll post here.

i don't think most people look down on those who read the entire manual, at least i do not, you will probrably find that little easter egg long before i do if anyone actually looks down at someone for reading the literature that came with the equipment they are very silly.

i'm going to re-phrase my statement and say in my opinion those of us who have been AV enthusiasts over the past few decades and have followed a lot of the new and upcomming (not only who bought simply who just studied it) will more than likely be able to set up 95% of the ps3 and most any player, reciever or tv for that matter without the need of the manual. most of those people will ref the manual for that 5% then assist people here that struggle with new technology.

i can tell you for sure that my father would never get this machine up and running and if he did the fw would never be updated and it would be hooked up with composit rca cables because he would not understand why the rf output is missing. he still uses his vcr which he prefers over his dvd player and has no clue what a dvr could do for him i've tried to convince him to get a dvr or tivo for years but he won't have anything to do with it.

Can your father at least set the clock on his VCR? I only make it back home once or twice a year but every time I have to set the clocks on my parents' VCR and Bose radio. They did finally move their old 8-Track player out to the garage a couple of years ago.
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Originally Posted by Pugnax555 View Post

........... But can you tell me (without looking at the online manual), what the differences between Bitmapping Type 1, 2, and 3 are? Or how the various video upscaler options work?

I realize that most people look down on the idea of reading a manual (ironically they then come and ask questions of those of us who do), but there are absolutely times when it is indispensable as a reference.

Well...even from the online man it's way hard to determine which type to use:

"Off Disable bitmapping.
Type 1 Use a technique called dithering to reduce noise or distortion produced during audio output.
Type 2 Use a technique called noise shaving to reduce noise in the audible range.
Type 3 Use a technique developed specifically for the PS3 system to enhance audio playback."
post #21204 of 32084
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Originally Posted by petrovy View Post

Type 3 Use a technique developed specifically for the PS3™ system to enhance audio playback."

Isn't it obvious? Think how sad all those engineers will be if you don't use the system they specifically developed for the PS3. Don't you want "enhanced" audio playback?



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This confusion is another reason I don't recommend the PS3 for legacy disc playback (such as CDs).
--Bob
post #21205 of 32084
One thing I wish Sony would put in their PS3 manual is ALL the "power" LED states and the associated beeps (important too!) in one place...some details about what they mean EXACTLY. There are some states not mentioned, and you have to be careful with some of them. In the right (or wrong!) circumstance you can very easily delete all your stuff by keeping your finger on the power switch too long...especially if not paying careful attention.
post #21206 of 32084
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Originally Posted by Buckeye911 View Post

Can your father at least set the clock on his VCR? I only make it back home once or twice a year but every time I have to set the clocks on my parents' VCR and Bose radio. They did finally move their old 8-Track player out to the garage a couple of years ago.

He is still amazed by the auto DST function.
he just used his coupons to pick up two of those digital converters for 2009. i tried my best to make him understand it was better to just have the cable company put another outlet in the room where he will use it and he would get 30 some extra channels to boot with no extra cost per month just 30 bucks to add the outlet.
post #21207 of 32084
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

This confusion is another reason I don't recommend the PS3 for legacy disc playback (such as CDs).
--Bob

HaHa....for some folks: the confusion, then trying to figure all this stuff out and then ultimately getting to have it all work perfectly (hopefully) is what makes it fun.
Actually, we got the CD playback sound to be amazing, using that 176.4kHz sampling freq via LPCM over HDMI, on a friends hi-end system with top line Denon AVR (but never had enough time to play around with the bitmapping options)
post #21208 of 32084
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Originally Posted by fireman325 View Post

Hey another question: Do you have 4 total of the BXT fans in your ET stand? Is that 2 on each side or all 4 behind the PS3?

I think pulling the hot air out would probably work well for me. There's plenty of room for pulling in cooler air, cuz my stand had 2 vertical openings on the back on each side. They run almost completely from top to bottom. They were about 2 inches wide and 4 inches apart. I cut the section out from in between them so the back of my stand has a pretty large opening in it.

Thanks again.


Pictures as promised. My HT Cabinet.





2 120mm holes (One for the fan) and two more smaller holes.

Sony fan gets power from Denon 1909 outlet and BXT fan gets USB power from PS3. I can close the smoke glass door without overheating while the remote still works. By closing the door, i can reduce the noices even further.

Take a look at these forums for more fan ideas.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=555644
post #21209 of 32084
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Originally Posted by petrovy View Post

HaHa....for some folks: the confusion, then trying to figure all this stuff out and then ultimately getting to have it all work perfectly (hopefully) is what makes it fun.
Actually, we got the CD playback sound to be amazing, using that 176.4kHz sampling freq via LPCM over HDMI, on a friends hi-end system with top line Denon AVR (but never had enough time to play around with the bitmapping options)

With you on that one. The playback of CDs with the type 3 bitmapping upsampled to 176Khz over HDMI into my Onkyo Pro 885 is amazingly better than out of either the analog or digital outputs from my old deck (Sony SCD 555ES) into the same system. Anyone not attempting to use their PS3 for this is missing something.

BB
post #21210 of 32084
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Originally Posted by ipoh View Post

Pictures as promised. My HT Cabinet.





2 120mm holes (One for the fan) and two more smaller holes.

Sony fan gets power from Denon 1909 outlet and BXT fan gets USB power from PS3. I can close the smoke glass door without overheating while the remote still works. By closing the door, i can reduce the noices even further.

Take a look at these forums for more fan ideas.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=555644

very nice..
may i suggest that you might want to route that wire on the right side so it travels on the floor with the others and possibly wrap them all in a white wire wrap to blend in with the wall. the center channel change to a black wire or use a black wire rap.

I use a Sanus cherry stained stand that is completly open front, sides and rear which gets me away from fans. in your case these fans are a huge asset.
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