One-and-Only PS3 as Blu-Ray Player Thread - Page 741

I have a question about the compatibility of ps3 LPCM format. Will the Pioneer VSX-1018AH Receiver http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-10...1443456&sr=1-1 will be able to process the LPCM from the ps3 ?

Is the ps3 capable of 7.1? Thanks

Yeah, that's is. As noted earlier, it's really cheap and it works well.

I have a Harmony One for which I can create macros. While the Nyko doesn't have a pre-programmed macro which will turn off the PS3, couldn't I just create one myself? How many button pushes does it take to turn off the PS3? Also, what about turning the PS3 on? Could I do that with the Nyko dongle coupled with a Harmony One?

I just insert a disk to turn it on

Yes - PS3 does 7.1 PCM if your receiver supports it. I believe the 1018 does.

I find the PS3 is a little less susceptible to fingerprints and scratches than some standalone Blu-ray players, but it still has problems... just last night a rental disc had a greasy fingerprint on the perimeter. With about 20 minutes left to go in the movie, it did just what you described... black momentarily, then the movie picked up again. I knew the fingerprint was there before starting the movie, I left it on purpose to see how the PS3 would do reading through it. After that first bobble, the PS3 went black again for a long time (40 seconds maybe) then a still frame from the movie appeared and the PS3 just would not play any deeper into the fingerprint. I ejected the disc, wiped the fingerprint off with a chean cloth (I usually wash dirty discs in the sink and dry with a soft towel, didn't even bother with that this time) and the rest of the disc played without a problem. Blu-ray is more sensitive to fingerprints and scratches than DVD... which is not surprising... Blu-ray discs hold much more data than DVDs so the encoded Blu-ray data is much smaller and easier to obscure even with read-error recovery schemes in place.

I've just been using the XMB, but I'm thinking of creating a macro for my 720... It's a max of what... 7 or so to the left? If you go "too far" (you're only 2 or 3 over from the Users category) there's no harm other than a slight delay perhaps, then 1 or 2 up and select X/enter twice. Would be interesting as an intellectual excercise, if not a reason to go back into the Harmony software, since I haven't made any changes to my setup in the last year.

But realistically, using the 'manual' XMB method to turn off isn't that bad. AT least not bad enough that I've felt the need to pony up for a PS3toothfairy... Turn on, I have to put a disc (whether it be movie or game) anyway... unless I'm playing one of the downloaded games... in which case I have the DS3 in my hand anyway...

can someone please confirm this does this receiver process ps3 LPCM?

Can anyone confirm that this will work with the MX500?

Appreciate it.

I, too have passed on a ps3toothfairy because the Nyko USB dongle is good enough for my purposes. My Harmony can do everything I want with it, except turn on the PS3. Even that is no big deal because I usually want to load a disk when I turn on the PS3. The Nyko is very useful and in the immortal words of Gilda Radner's old SNL character, Roseanne Rosannadanna, "It was ril chip."

Correct Setting for Dynamic Range Control?

In this post in the BD shootout thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post14696564

respected ISF calibrator Jeff Meier (poster UMR) makes the assertion that Dynamic Range Control (an audio output setting) must be turned OFF in the PS3 to avoid screwing up certain audio tracks. It is set to ON by factory default.

What's the consensus here? Does anyone have any reason to contradict what Jeff is saying?

If not, we should get this added to the FAQ sticky thread, yes?

Personally I've left it ON in my PS3 and haven't noticed any issues so far.
--Bob

I've noticed nothing and mine's on too.

Bob, Jeff's findings have been confirmed elsewhere on AVS. You may want to look into the BD Software forum for the Iron Man (9/30) thread. In there, I believe Dave Vaughn and Ralph Potts both confirmed that when DRC was left to "automatic", it muffled the dynamic range of the TrueHD track. It has to be turned to off, according to them and a few others.

Here are the pertinent posts:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post14655334

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...c#post14655462

I don't remember the specific reasoning as to why it only applies to certain tracks (specifically IronMan's), but it does not affect all TrueHD tracks if I remember correctly. See the thread for more info.


You may want to try the owners thread of that AVS for better responsiveness.

Do you think turning off DRC in the PS3 is confirmed enough at this point that it should be added as a recommendation in the FAQ?
--Bob

It should never be used unless your wife screams it's too loud from the other end of the house!

Bob- YES! at least, IMHO.

I must say I hadn't noticed that the default was ON, because I definitely would not want to be compressing the dynamic range (of course it's hard to know what Sony really means by this and whether it applies to TrueHD as well as legacy DD). I always bitstream DD anyway, partly to avoid weird things like this cropping up with new firmware.

I had assumed it was actually enabling the "Dialog Normalization" function in DD5.1 tracks. This is the first I'd heard that it might be screwing up anything.
--Bob

Ok, so maybe no one has seen this or cares, but I figured it out:

PS3 has BD-specific settings. When I change it to do RGB instead of Auto, it works fine! YPbPr seems to do this just-under-1080p thing, I have no idea why. I had the PS3 on RGB so I did not expect this.

Just putting this up in case another poor sap happens to have the same issue.

I would say yes, Bob. Reason being that even audio/video experts, so to speak, with high-range audio systems didn't realize that this could potentially be a problem until fiddling around with the Iron Man TrueHD track and observing that the legacy Dolby Digital track had more dynamic range than the TrueHD track.

On other sites some reviewers thought there was a problem with the IronMan soundtrack and/or disc and were considering bringing the problem to Paramount's attention.

It sounds like the default should be to "off" because when on "automatic" it is turned on when playing the TrueHD track of Ironman. Most casual audio/video hobbyists will never know to turn it off, so having it in the FAQ seems logical to me.

Brandon

Maybe this has to do with RGB being for computer displays? It makes sense now that you bring it up.

Brandon

I've updated the PS3 FAQ recommended setting for the audio dynamic range control to Off. Of course for the most accurate audio reproduction it should be set to OFF since this feature is a compression function intended to limit the dynamic range of the audio. It can be useful for some people and certain situations to turn on compression, but again for highest fidelity it should be Off.

Ron Jones

+1

Why would anyone consider this a normal feature to enable or use this unless someone is sleeping or working in the same space/home while you watch a movie? I imagine it's quite like ripping a SACD to a 128k MP3/AAC in terms of lost dynamics.


Charles:

Earplugs are cheap. Just be sure they are attached to a dozen roses.

Is anyone else having trouble playing the Transformers BDV? Every once in a while when I start it up it says "This video cannot be played", but if I try again it's fine.

DRC does not always do anything to a recording. It depends on the recording and whether there are instructions in the encoded track on how to implement it. If they are missing DRC is a placebo otherwise it is a mess.

The PS3 menu says it's only for Dolby decoded to PCM or something like that?

I've started it up 3 different times over the past week and it's played fine every time.


Yes, it's for Dolby audio which is decoded in the player. If you bitstream the audio to the AVR then the setting will not affect it. Most AVRs have their own setting for Dynamic Range compression.

Brandon

I recently picked up a new PS3 80GB unit. Using HDMI (with Pioneer Elite VSX-91TXH to SXRD 60A3000) just before the disc fully loads there is a slight click/popping noise heard through my speakers and the "Option" icon appears briefly in the lower right hand corner of the screen. Does anyone know if I can remove the noise or what's causing it?

I have a Denon 3808 Receiver and PS3 and 5.1 speakers using PCM which works great. I noticed if I leave the audio settings on the PS3 at auto it selects all options including 7.1 and 5.1....and looks like it send a 7.1 signal to my receiver which outputs at 5.1...but if i make the ps3 audio settings manual and only select 5.1 it my receiver just shows 5.1...

Does it make a diff which setting I use in the end?

I got a new 80 gig ps3 and it wouldn't play blue ray or any games.
I had to send it back because it was bad but I then notice a black line of dead pixels on my brand new samsung 40-81.
my question is if the new batch of 80 gig ps3 are bad? I been told the ps3 did not make the tv go bad but your popping noise makes me wonder?