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post #25681 of 31995
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I have a 40 gig unit, too. I have owned it for a year and it has always been as silent as a stone, even when playing DVDs upconverted to 1080p. I just hope that mine lasts. It appears that a lot of PS3s start to fail at about the 18 month mark.

I have that same unit and just noticed that the fan has been kicking in to a higher speed lately...I'm not sure if it is the newer version on PlayOn that I'm using (I wouldn't think that it would require any more processing power from the PS3) or something else. It didn't happen last summer and room temps are kept in the same range and location / ventilation hasn't changed...weird.
post #25682 of 31995
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I just hope that mine lasts. It appears that a lot of PS3s start to fail at about the 18 month mark.

Don't forget that the PS3 has the largest install-base (by far) for Blu-ray players, therefore thare are bound to be more units that fail compared to other players, hence more forum complaints. It's another reason why I use my PS3 for Blu-ray only though.
post #25683 of 31995
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Originally Posted by sivartk View Post

I have that same unit and just noticed that the fan has been kicking in to a higher speed lately...I'm not sure if it is the newer version on PlayOn that I'm using (I wouldn't think that it would require any more processing power from the PS3) or something else. It didn't happen last summer and room temps are kept in the same range and location / ventilation hasn't changed...weird.

But it's SO HOT there. Anyway, it could be the heat, it could be dust, but most likely its a combination of the two.

I should add, mine has jumped a fan speed on occasion lately, particularly since the heat kicked in again. It didn't before, so I just need to blow out some dust (carefully - ).
post #25684 of 31995
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Originally Posted by phdeane View Post

But it's SO HOT there. Anyway, it could be the heat, it could be dust, but most likely its a combination of the two.

I should add, mine has jumped a fan speed on occasion lately, particularly since the heat kicked in again. It didn't before, so I just need to blow out some dust (carefully - ).

Inside stays about 80 or 81 -- just like last June when the temps were 100+...also I noticed it on a day that was overcast and only got up to 95. I recently had the carpet replaced in the room, so all my components got a good cleaning about 7 days ago.

I hardly ever play games, so selling the PS3 and buying a popcorn hour may be in the near future. Only being able to stream media 4 months a year on the PS3 because of the loud fan isn't good. Those 4 months are the season called "Not Summer"
post #25685 of 31995
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Originally Posted by sivartk View Post

Inside stays about 80 or 81 -- just like last June when the temps were 100+...also I noticed it on a day that was overcast and only got up to 95. I recently had the carpet replaced in the room, so all my components got a good cleaning about 7 days ago.

I hardly ever play games, so selling the PS3 and buying a popcorn hour may be in the near future. Only being able to stream media 4 months a year on the PS3 because of the loud fan isn't good. Those 4 months are the season called "Not Summer"

I hear ya. I used to keep my 80GB PS3 in a fairly open cabinet. I got so tired of it sounding like a jet airplane, I finally moved it out of the cabinet to the top (read: completely open air, or so I thought...) of a small cabinet next to my TV (risking my son putting foreign objects into it). It's been fine for six months, but, as mentioned, it recently started kicking up a notch - not the full jet airplane mode, but loud nonetheless. I realized I had the Wii Fit propped up next to it (not against it, mind you, but within a couple inches). Anyway, I moved the Wii Fit and now my PS3 is staying at the lowest fan speed. Some have units (gwsat, others) that are whisper quiet, but boy is my PS3 sensitive.

I still love it, regardless of the issues. It is basically a computer and as long as I respect that and treat it well, it keeps quiet in the corner. Of course, not all have been so fortunate.

On a different note, I now have both PS3 Media Server and PlayOn Media Server streaming ALL my content and Netflix to my TV. It just keeps getting better....
post #25686 of 31995
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I have a 40 gig unit, too. I have owned it for a year and it has always been as silent as a stone, even when playing DVDs upconverted to 1080p. I just hope that mine lasts. It appears that a lot of PS3s start to fail at about the 18 month mark.



Coincidence. Or nothing more than a well thought out business plan.
post #25687 of 31995
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I have a 40 gig unit, too. I have owned it for a year and it has always been as silent as a stone, even when playing DVDs upconverted to 1080p. I just hope that mine lasts. It appears that a lot of PS3s start to fail at about the 18 month mark.

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Originally Posted by Matt C View Post

Don't forget that the PS3 has the largest install-base (by far) for Blu-ray players, therefore [there] are bound to be more units that fail compared to other players, hence more forum complaints. It's another reason why I use my PS3 for Blu-ray only though.

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Originally Posted by markrdee View Post

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Coincidence. Or nothing more than a well thought out business plan.

I vote for the latter. The majority of posts on forums are from those having problems (another large number coming from those helping others). The vast majority of PS3 players are more than likely doing just fine. With a price like they charge (versus Xbox 360 and Wii), I personally don't feel they would build in planned obsolescence - at least they couldn't get away with it for very long. After all, most of Sony's revenue in regards to the PS3 comes from BDs and games...a recurring revenue stream is the true win, not the hardware sales (which appears to be a loss leader for Sony anyway).
post #25688 of 31995
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Originally Posted by phdeane View Post

I vote for the latter. The majority of posts on forums are from those having problems (another large number coming from those helping others). The vast majority of PS3 players are more than likely doing just fine. With a price like they charge (versus Xbox 360 and Wii), I personally don't feel they would build in planned obsolescence - at least they couldn't get away with it for very long. After all, most of Sony's revenue in regards to the PS3 comes from BDs and games...a recurring revenue stream is the true win, not the hardware sales (which appears to be a loss leader for Sony anyway).

It can and does in some product.

Planned Obsolescence
What Does Planned Obsolescence Mean?
A manufacturing decision by a company to make consumer products in such a way that they become out-of-date or useless within a known time period. The main goal of this type of production is to ensure that consumers will have to buy the product multiple times, rather than only once. This naturally stimulates demand for an industry's products because consumers have to keep coming back again and again.

Products ranging from inexpensive light bulbs to high-priced goods such as cars and buildings are subject to planned obsolescence by manufacturers and producers.

Also known as "built-in obsolescence". Investopedia explains Planned Obsolescence
Planned obsolescence does not always sit well with consumers, especially if competing companies offer similar products but with much more durability. Pushing this production too far can result in customer backlash, or a bad reputation for a brand.

However, planned obsolescence doesn't always have such a negative connotation. Companies can engage in this activity solely as a means of controlling costs. For example, a cell phone manufacturer may decide to use parts in its phones that have a maximum lifespan of five years, instead of parts that could last 20 years. It's unlikely most consumers will use the same cell phone five years after purchase, and so the company can lower input costs by using cheaper parts without fearing a customers backlash.
post #25689 of 31995
Yes, I'm very aware of the term and its historical impact on consumer goods (auto industry, for example).

I'm not entirely sure what your conclusion is, but this says what I said.

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Originally Posted by markrdee View Post

Also known as "built-in obsolescence". Investopedia explains Planned Obsolescence
Planned obsolescence does not always sit well with consumers, especially if competing companies offer similar products but with much more durability. Pushing this production too far can result in customer backlash, or a bad reputation for a brand.
post #25690 of 31995
PS3 gurus... I have a PS3 that I use for Blu-Ray. Occasionally it refuses to sync. When it happens I've tried every combination of powr on cycles to get it going, no luck. Chain is PS3->Marantz AV8003 -> Video Processor -> Projector

When it happens I get audio then it cuts out, Marantz reflects no data, then back to 7.1 with audio, then back to no-data. This goes on indefinitely as it apparently tries to sync. If I power off the video processor, then it "aounds like" it syncs and passes audio, obviously no video withthe video receiver off. VP back on, I get no video signal, and audio starts cutting in and out again.

I have some very high end Honeywell brand HDMI cables. These are short (2-3ft) cables. But I tried switching them for some other decent HDMI cables, no fix. Wouldn't help to remove the Marantz from the chain as I have to have it there to get the audio off the ____ ____ HDMI .

I had a new in box Oppo BD player that I hadn't got around to hooking up. So I pulled it out last night. With the PS3 not syncing, I pulled the HDMI cable out of it's rear, and plugged it into the Oppo. Voila, instant video and audio. Back to the PS3 - nada.

Anyone else experience this as an issue with the PS3?
post #25691 of 31995
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Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

PS3 gurus... I have a PS3 that I use for Blu-Ray. Occasionally it refuses to sync. When it happens I've tried every combination of powr on cycles to get it going, no luck. Chain is PS3->Marantz AV8003 -> Video Processor -> Projector

When it happens I get audio then it cuts out, Marantz reflects no data, then back to 7.1 with audio, then back to no-data. This goes on indefinitely as it apparently tries to sync. If I power off the video processor, then it "aounds like" it syncs and passes audio, obviously no video withthe video receiver off. VP back on, I get no video signal, and audio starts cutting in and out again.

I have some very high end Honeywell brand HDMI cables. These are short (2-3ft) cables. But I tried switching them for some other decent HDMI cables, no fix. Wouldn't help to remove the Marantz from the chain as I have to have it there to get the audio off the ____ ____ HDMI .

I had a new in box Oppo BD player that I hadn't got around to hooking up. So I pulled it out last night. With the PS3 not syncing, I pulled the HDMI cable out of it's rear, and plugged it into the Oppo. Voila, instant video and audio. Back to the PS3 - nada.

Anyone else experience this as an issue with the PS3?

I'm 100% sure if you run HDMI from your PS3 to PJ - you WILL FIND
EVERYTHING WORKS as it applies to syncing. You can get audio temporarily
by running Optical from PS3 to Marantz.

Unless your PS3 is BROKEN - which my suggested test will PROVE that it
isn't. Then the Culprit is either the Marantz or the VP.
post #25692 of 31995
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Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

PS3 gurus... I have a PS3 that I use for Blu-Ray. Occasionally it refuses to sync. When it happens I've tried every combination of powr on cycles to get it going, no luck. Chain is PS3->Marantz AV8003 -> Video Processor -> Projector

After looking at what a arantz AV8003 is - it has video processing
in it. DROP the VP from the chain.
post #25693 of 31995
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

I'm 100% sure if you run HDMI from your PS3 to PJ - you WILL FIND
EVERYTHING WORKS as it applies to syncing. You can get audio temporarily
by running Optical from PS3 to Marantz.

Unless your PS3 is BROKEN - which my suggested test will PROVE that it
isn't. Then the Culprit is either the Marantz or the VP.

Maybe so, but both components are required in the system, the AV8003 for sound via HDMI, and the VP to deal with video switching form SDI sources. It may very well be that if I don't use HDMI to get sound via the Pre-pro, that the PS3 can send video. Except that I can get the more limited output of the toslink, saying remove the audio component and it will work isn't too far from saying don't use the PS3 and there won't be a problem. While it may be one of the components not happy with the PS3, they are all perfectly happy with the Oppo, or Tivo HD. So they everyone else is working happily together. Only the PS3 is an issue. For testing this input in the chain, the only thing that changes is what hole the same HDI cable is inserted, the Oppo, or the PS3.

So my original question stands, has anyone else had syncing issues with a PS3?
post #25694 of 31995
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Originally Posted by GetGray View Post


So my original question stands, has anyone else had syncing issues with a PS3?

No - 22 Million PS3's with no Sync Problems.

I'm happy to see you are interested in troubleshooting the problem.
post #25695 of 31995
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

No - 22 Million PS3's with no Sync Problems.

I'm happy to see you are interested in troubleshooting the problem.

Where DO you keep them all?
post #25696 of 31995
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Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

Where DO you keep them all?

I do OWN 3 of the 22 Million - hooked to THREE different
AVR's and Three Different PJs - All work PERFECTLY
post #25697 of 31995
Has anyone noticed the upscaling capabilities of the PS3 have gotten better as of late? Maybe I'm seeing things.
post #25698 of 31995
It hasn't been written here yet, but the latest PS3 FW 2.80 appears to have changed the interaction with certain games. It has been reported to Activision that their GHWT controllers are being reassigned each time the PS3 is started making them inaccessible by its software. There is also other reports that the downloaded content from their website is no longer visible in the users set list.

Any gamers experiencing any bugs with FW 2.80?
post #25699 of 31995
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Originally Posted by wrinklefree View Post

Has anyone noticed the upscaling capabilities of the PS3 have gotten better as of late? Maybe I'm seeing things.

I haven't noticed any improvement in my PS3's ability to upscale DVDs to 1080p but it has always been very good on this score. Recently, I compared the PQ of an episode of a Deadwood DVD upscaled internally by the PS3 to the same DVD's PQ when upscaled by the Anchor Bay video processor built in to my Yamaha RX-V3900. I concluded that the PS3 did just as good a job of upscaling as the 3900.
post #25700 of 31995
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Originally Posted by wrinklefree View Post

Has anyone noticed the upscaling capabilities of the PS3 have gotten better as of late? Maybe I'm seeing things.

No, I don't think so. There are some DVDs that look really good when upscaled, much better than others. My benchmark for DVD upscaling is I, Robot, which looks surprisingly good.

My wife and I just finished watching the entire series of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer." We started it on an SD TV and SD player, and continued through the seasons -- upscaled on our HDTV by a Toshiba HD-A2 for a few months, then by a PS3 through multiple firmware updates. The PS3 caught up to the A2 in upscaling quality about a year ago, and hasn't noticeably changed since.
post #25701 of 31995
Anyone seeing the fan crank up loud during DVD playback? It's summer so ambient temperatures are high.

And it probably doesn't help that I watched some DVDs AFTER playing some games.

But not only is the fan running loud, there are skips in some Netflix DVDs. It pauses/freezes and then skips ahead a couple of seconds in different spots. I don't think it's the layer change.

And one of the extras features on The International DVD consistently freezes so it would never play all the way.


Upscaling DVDs more processor-intensive and makes the fan work more than just BD playback?
post #25702 of 31995
Yes, mine has always been loud during DVD playback.
post #25703 of 31995
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Originally Posted by Darin View Post

Yes, mine has always been loud during DVD playback.

I had the same problem. Now I turn off dvd upscaling, just let the tv do the upscaling. The loud fan had gone away.
post #25704 of 31995
The fan in my 40GB (18 months old) has never been audible under any circumstances, including extended upscaled DVD playback. My PS3 is out in the open with unobstructed ventilation, in a room that never gets above 80 degrees F.
post #25705 of 31995
The 40GB units have always run cooler due to the downscaled chips.
post #25706 of 31995
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

The fan in my 40GB (18 months old) has never been audible under any circumstances, including extended upscaled DVD playback. My PS3 is out in the open with unobstructed ventilation, in a room that never gets above 80 degrees F.

Wow, must be nice...where I live if the AC can get it down to 82 in the room when it is 106 outside, consider yourself lucky. Mine (40GB also) only screams (in cabinet with door open) after about an hour and a summer time ambient temp...or after a lot of game playing.
post #25707 of 31995
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

The fan in my 40GB (18 months old) has never been audible under any circumstances, including extended upscaled DVD playback. My PS3 is out in the open with unobstructed ventilation, in a room that never gets above 80 degrees F.

I have had the same experience with my one year old 40 gig PS3. It is totally quiet when playing BDs and equally so when upscaling and playing DVDs.
post #25708 of 31995
Can anyone provide me with the link to the FAQ? The link in the first post keeps saying thread not found
post #25709 of 31995
It's a sticky thread at the top of this forum.
post #25710 of 31995
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post

Anyone seeing the fan crank up loud during DVD playback? It's summer so ambient temperatures are high.

And it probably doesn't help that I watched some DVDs AFTER playing some games.

But not only is the fan running loud, there are skips in some Netflix DVDs. It pauses/freezes and then skips ahead a couple of seconds in different spots. I don't think it's the layer change.

And one of the extras features on The International DVD consistently freezes so it would never play all the way.


Upscaling DVDs more processor-intensive and makes the fan work more than just BD playback?

Do you wash your disks before you put them in the player or just take them as Netflix sends them. When I had Netflix I washed them all first. Much better performance.

If the PS3 won't play them then the disk is really really bad or something is dirty in your laser pickup.
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