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post #27181 of 31995
Not having looked at the back of a PS3 slim or older one- I am guessing that it does not have an analog 7.1 output so that I can get HD Audio to my Krell Showcase Pre. that does not have HDMI. I am looking to upgrade an older BD player that does have that and that is a must for me at this point. Is there a way around this issue.
post #27182 of 31995
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Originally Posted by 03FLHT2 View Post

Not having looked at the back of a PS3 slim or older one- I am guessing that it does not have an analog 7.1 output so that I can get HD Audio to my Krell Showcase Pre. that does not have HDMI. I am looking to upgrade an older BD player that does have that and that is a must for me at this point. Is there a way around this issue.

Not with a PS3, no.
post #27183 of 31995
That is something I was afraid of. Not being a big game player at this point it doesn't make sense for me I guess at this point to look at the PS3. So the trek goes on.
post #27184 of 31995
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Originally Posted by SaltwaterCat View Post

I watched 2 HD streamed movies over the weekend and they looked as good as my comcast fed HD content, so it's a nice option.

I tried a MythBusters episode listed in the HD section, but it wasn't good at all, about what I'd expect from a poor DVD. OTOH, the 100-inch projected image magnifies any imperfection.

I couldn't find any indication as to whether Netflix qualified my connection for HD delivery. (It should have qualified; I have a good FiOS connection, advertised as 25Mbs, file downloads typically 0.5-1.2 MBps.) Is there any quality indication in the interface, as to whether Netflix is delivering the HD version or not?
post #27185 of 31995
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Originally Posted by kobak View Post

I tried a MythBusters episode listed in the HD section, but it wasn't good at all, about what I'd expect from a poor DVD. OTOH, the 100-inch projected image magnifies any imperfection.

I couldn't find any indication as to whether Netflix qualified my connection for HD delivery. (It should have qualified; I have a good FiOS connection, advertised as 25Mbs, file downloads typically 0.5-1.2 MBps.) Is there any quality indication in the interface, as to whether Netflix is delivering the HD version or not?

First, when you first load the show that you want to watch, a graphic appears showing the signal strength of the show being streamed. If it is an HD stream, the letters "HD" will appear to the right of the signal strength meter. I have been getting the HD versions of all shows that are available that way but agree with you that the PQ of HD shows from Netflix streaming is discernibly inferior to the HD programming I get from Cox OKC on my 60 inch Pioneer Kuro 6020.

CAVEAT: What I have described about the HD indication within the signal strength meter applies only to NF streaming via a TiVo. I have not yet received the NF streaming disc for my PS3.
post #27186 of 31995
Do NOT put one of those cleaner discs in ANY disc player you own. They are stupid - perhaps one of the worst ideas ever in a consumer product. The laser lens moves sideways and vertically on very delicate flexures... sort of like very delicate leaf springs... VERY delicate. The tracking (sideways) and focus (vertical) motion are controlled by tiny linear motors attached to the lens assembly. Putting one of those cleaning discs in the drive swipes the cleaning surface across the lens with absolutely no regard for the delicate suspension and tracking motors. Those discs are STUPID. If you'd clean a baby with a grinding disc, the "lens cleaning discs" are just the tool for you.
post #27187 of 31995
Ive really tried looking for what I need to hook up my ps3 to the internet wireless but cant seem to find everything in one shot. I have no idea what I need to get. Heres what I have:

HP PC with Vista 32bit and a wired modem running Qwest DSL
PS3 60 gb system running to my AVR via HDMI
PS3 in living room, PC about 60 feet away, down a hallway. Same floor.

I just need to know what "boxes" i need to hook up. Do I need a different modem, which kind of router needs to be at the PS3. Thanks in advance.
post #27188 of 31995
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Originally Posted by dafeist View Post

Ive really tried looking for what I need to hook up my ps3 to the internet wireless but cant seem to find everything in one shot. I have no idea what I need to get. Heres what I have:

HP PC with Vista 32bit and a wired modem running Qwest DSL
PS3 60 gb system running to my AVR via HDMI
PS3 in living room, PC about 60 feet away, down a hallway. Same floor.

I just need to know what "boxes" i need to hook up. Do I need a different modem, which kind of router needs to be at the PS3. Thanks in advance.

In order to establish a wireless Internet connection from your PS3 to the Internet you will need to get an 802.11g wireless router. You would then physically connect the wireless router to your DSL modem with an Ethernet cable and after that setup a wireless connection between the router and the PS3. The instructions that come with any wireless router should be able to explain to you how to accomplish this.
post #27189 of 31995
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Originally Posted by 120inna55 View Post

I'm no expert, but I would deduce that if the discs can reliably play up until a certain point, a dirty drive is not your problem. I wouldn't risk putting one of those "cleaners" in my drive, especially for such a long shot. It sounds more like a heat issue to me.

If its a heat issue then what should I do? I am unsure how to fix something like this.

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Originally Posted by Jim Gilliland View Post

It's probably a drive problem, but dirt may or may not be at fault. 50-55 minutes into a movie is about where the layer change would take place on a dual layer disc. So if it fails fairly consistently at that point, the drive is probably having trouble switching layers.

So if its having trouble switching layers then perhaps the drive is going bad. Would you know how much a new drive costs and how hard or easy it is to replace the old drive by putting a new one in? Also, this has not happened with every single disc. I was watching Up and it played perfectly all the way through. With that being said I did have a fan blowing on the PS3 so I don't know if its a heat issue like 120inna55 said or if its in fact a bad drive.
post #27190 of 31995
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

In order to establish a wireless Internet connection from your PS3 to the Internet you will need to get an 802.11g wireless router. You would then physically connect the wireless router to your DSL modem with an Ethernet cable and after that setup a wireless connection between the router and the PS3. The instructions that come with any wireless router should be able to explain to you how to accomplish this.

So all I need is a wireless router and Im good to go? Now, which should I get? Ive some with N's and other letters. Is one better than another or is there only one kind I can use?
post #27191 of 31995
For those interested, HIGH-DEF DIGEST did a decent job of reviewing the Netfllix streaming experience on the PS3.
post #27192 of 31995
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Originally Posted by dafeist View Post

So all I need is a wireless router and Im good to go? Now, which should I get? Ive some with N's and other letters. Is one better than another or is there only one kind I can use?

If you use the wireless adapter built into the PS3, it is a "G" adapter. You could get an N router, which is backward-compatible, but you will be limited to the slower "G" transfer rate. Wireless G is not quite fast enough for reliable HD video streaming but good enough for anything else. You should just be able to connect the router to the DSL modem, and whatever computers you have to the router. Check out some of the forums for wireless networking like broadbandreports.com.

If you decide to upgrade your network later, you can go with an N router but you will need to connect the PS3 to a wireless N bridge (a separate piece of wireless hardware) to get the N speeds. Best thing to do, if you can, is hardwire everything.
post #27193 of 31995
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Originally Posted by Dirac View Post

If you use the wireless adapter built into the PS3, it is a "G" adapter. You could get an N router, which is backward-compatible, but you will be limited to the slower "G" transfer rate. Wireless G is not quite fast enough for reliable HD video streaming but good enough for anything else. You should just be able to connect the router to the DSL modem, and whatever computers you have to the router. Check out some of the forums for wireless networking like broadbandreports.com.

If you decide to upgrade your network later, you can go with an N router but you will need to connect the PS3 to a wireless N bridge (a separate piece of wireless hardware) to get the N speeds. Best thing to do, if you can, is hardwire everything.

So if I were to get the N bridge and an N router, I could increase speeds? Are these speeds dependant on my computer, DSL speeds, etc? I guess Im wondering if theres the possibility that something else could keep me from getting the N-speeds if I were to get the bridge and the router.
post #27194 of 31995
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Originally Posted by dafeist View Post

So if I were to get the N bridge and an N router, I could increase speeds? Are these speeds dependant on my computer, DSL speeds, etc? I guess Im wondering if theres the possibility that something else could keep me from getting the N-speeds if I were to get the bridge and the router.

Yes, if you're surfing the internet or downloading demos, trailers or whatever, you're going to be limited to whichever is the slowest speed. DSL is quite a bit slower than wireless N, and you'd have to have a REALLY fast DSL connection for it to be faster than wireless G. Unless you're trying to stream HD video from a computer or media server in the house, you really only need a G router since the PS3 has the G adapter built in. You can get decent G routers for less than fifty bucks.

It has nothing to do with the computer speed. Obviously if you're trying to download stuff on your computer at the same time you're downloading stuff on the PS3, each download will slow down to about half speed.
post #27195 of 31995
Well for any (part-time) gamers out there:

I picked up the new Call of Duty MW2, and in order to play I was forced to update to 3.01. Disc loaded and I played for about an hour with no problems.

I watched about 45 minutes of the NIN concert BD, with no problems as well. Hopefully all is well.

Just a small vote of confidence for those concerned about the issues surrounding the update.

(40gb spiderman-3 issue PS3, updated via USB stick)
post #27196 of 31995
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Originally Posted by Dirac View Post

If you use the wireless adapter built into the PS3, it is a "G" adapter. You could get an N router, which is backward-compatible, but you will be limited to the slower "G" transfer rate. Wireless G is not quite fast enough for reliable HD video streaming but good enough for anything else. You should just be able to connect the router to the DSL modem, and whatever computers you have to the router. Check out some of the forums for wireless networking like broadbandreports.com.

If you decide to upgrade your network later, you can go with an N router but you will need to connect the PS3 to a wireless N bridge (a separate piece of wireless hardware) to get the N speeds. Best thing to do, if you can, is hardwire everything.

I mostly agree with the foregoing but, based on personal experience, have a couple of caveats:

First, I stream movies from Netflix to my TiVo Series3 with a TiVo wireless adapter, which is 802.11g. It streams Netflix's HD content quite well. HD selections have been just as reliable as SD shows. Nevertheless, the connection does sometimes hiccup, regardless of whether the content is HD or SD.

Second, I have found an 802.11g wireless connection to be just as useful for streaming as an 802.11n connection. I achieve the n connection by making an Ethernet connection between the PS3 or other device and an Airport Express, which communicates with an Apple Time Capsule at n speeds. Keep in mind that even 802.11g speeds are faster that the download speeds typically achievable from a cable modem.
post #27197 of 31995
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I mostly agree with the foregoing but, based on personal experience, have a couple of caveats:

First, I stream movies from Netflix to my TiVo Series3 with a TiVo wireless adapter, which is 802.11g. It streams Netflix's HD content quite well. HD selections have been just as reliable as SD shows. Nevertheless, the connection does sometimes hiccup, regardless of whether the content is HD or SD.

Second, I have found an 802.11g wireless connection to be just as useful for streaming as an 802.11n connection. I achieve the n connection by making an Ethernet connection between the PS3 or other device and an Airport Express, which communicates with an Apple Time Capsule at n speeds. Keep in mind that even 802.11g speeds are faster that the download speeds typically achievable from a cable modem.

Good add, thanks gwsat. I have a 15-22 Mbps TWC cable connection, and my real-world G speeds seem to dip below that (i.e. I usually get faster downloads on my wired machines). HD video has been hit or miss for me. I am in a multi-level house which definitely cuts my signal strength some. I have 3 WRT54G routers, 2 of which are upstairs set up as client bridges, and one as AP downstairs, everything running DD-WRT. It's especially iffy when trying to stream between the two bridges--possibly it's going from bridge to AP to bridge all over wireless, which would explain the choppy video. I'm thinking about changing over to N routers one of these days now that the N spec is out of draft.
post #27198 of 31995
can someone confirm if this new sony 3 slim plays (cd -wma)
post #27199 of 31995
Thanks guys, answered my questions perfectly. I appreciate giving info I know youve given a hundred times. Take care.
post #27200 of 31995
quick question--how do you turn off the controllers without turning off the PS3? I have some downloads going on for a few hours but I don't want to drain the battery on controllers. thanks much.
post #27201 of 31995
You can either set them to turn off automatically when idle, or just hold the PS button down, and select Turn Off Controller.
post #27202 of 31995
Thanks,Dirac. I use Harmony a lot these days and forgot about the functions on 6axis.
post #27203 of 31995
I currently have my ps3 to my yamaha rx, to my panasonic front projector, which accepts 1080p/60. i plan on adding a 4x2 monoprice matrix switcher. i will run the second output to my sony bravia 46E3000 RPTV. I assume it will not support 1080p/60, so i will have to change the ps3 output to 1080i. (the bravia will accept 1080p/24, but it's only a 60Hz set, so no benefit there.) Any suggestions? thanks,
ej
post #27204 of 31995
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Originally Posted by DJ Matt View Post

So if its having trouble switching layers then perhaps the drive is going bad. Would you know how much a new drive costs and how hard or easy it is to replace the old drive by putting a new one in? Also, this has not happened with every single disc. I was watching Up and it played perfectly all the way through.

I've seen numerous reports on the web about how to replace the laser lens on your PS3 drive, but nothing on replacement of the entire drive. Apparently, it is not a simple repair. It's possible that replacing the lens might help your situation, but frankly, it's just a shot in the dark. Google something like "replace PS3 lens" for more information.

Intermittent problems are always the hardest ones to solve.
post #27205 of 31995
I contacted Sony about my issues. They told me that the SCEA is aware of the isolated issues concerning the freezing problem. They told me to boot up in safe mode and then do a Restore File System. So, I guess I will go ahead and do this. If it messes up then its on them for sure because this is what they are telling me to do.

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Originally Posted by oland View Post

Well for any (part-time) gamers out there:

I picked up the new Call of Duty MW2, and in order to play I was forced to update to 3.01. Disc loaded and I played for about an hour with no problems.

I watched about 45 minutes of the NIN concert BD, with no problems as well. Hopefully all is well.

Just a small vote of confidence for those concerned about the issues surrounding the update.

(40gb spiderman-3 issue PS3, updated via USB stick)

I didn't have problems until well after the update. Maybe you are in the clear though. Seems like the problem is only hitting a console here and there instead of all of them being infected. I too was playing MW2 for a little over an hour and I did not have any issues with the game thus far. Its just that some movies are freezing at 50-55 minutes in.
post #27206 of 31995
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Originally Posted by DJ Matt View Post

...I was watching Up and it played perfectly all the way through. With that being said I did have a fan blowing on the PS3 so I don't know if its a heat issue like 120inna55 said or if its in fact a bad drive.

Try playing Up without the fan. You may find that the fan is what makes the difference. Once you narrow this down, you may need to re-locate the PS3 or use a laptop cooling pad, etc.
post #27207 of 31995
Does the Netflix disc install or update the latest firmware 3.0/3.01? Does the Netflix disc even requires the newest firmware to work? I am really very hesitant to connect to the internet using any Sony product.
post #27208 of 31995
ugh, after a year, my PS3 has stopped working.

here is what happens: i turn it on, it makes the intro sound and screen says "Sony Computer Entertainment Presents" and then it goes into screensaver mode. It doesn't play any discs and doesn't show the PS3 menu. So I can't do anything.

Anyone have suggestions or do I just send it back?
post #27209 of 31995
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Originally Posted by union1411 View Post

ugh, after a year, my PS3 has stopped working.

here is what happens: i turn it on, it makes the intro sound and screen says "Sony Computer Entertainment Presents" and then it goes into screensaver mode. It doesn't play any discs and doesn't show the PS3 menu. So I can't do anything.

Anyone have suggestions or do I just send it back?

Have you tried to just reset the AV mode by holding the power button?

If that fails, Use the recovery menu and reload the FW or reset the unit's HDD to factory defaults (reformats the HDD). (Details in the PS3 FAQ thread).
post #27210 of 31995
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Originally Posted by Jim Gilliland View Post

It's probably a drive problem, but dirt may or may not be at fault. 50-55 minutes into a movie is about where the layer change would take place on a dual layer disc. So if it fails fairly consistently at that point, the drive is probably having trouble switching layers.

That's not a good or even reasonable assumption. A single layer Blu-ray disc can hold more than 2 hours of 1080p24 movie content PLUS multiple soundtracks PLUS special features. There is ZERO reason to expect a Blu-ray disc to be changing layers at 50-60 minutes into a movie. If there is a layer change at all during a Blu-ray movie, it could happen at almost any time. It all depends on how the disc was laid out for mastering (what content was placed on what layer).
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