One-and-Only PS3 as Blu-Ray Player Thread - Page 958

I am hoping someone has some insight on this issue. I have a PS3 slim hooked up to a Bose Lifestyle 38 System. When playing a dvd or Blu-ray. I sometimes get a pop when changing tracks or at initial startup followed by a drop in the audio for 1 to 1.5 seconds as the new track begins. If I have the pS# Slim set to PCM and not DTS or Dolby Digital then all is fine, howeer I am not getting the benefit of True Digital sound. I am using an optical line from the PS3 Slim to the Bose system. I tried changing the optical cable, a different PS3 Slim and had the same issue. From the research I did it appears that when the movie trailers are over and the movie is about to start it someitmes goes from stero to digital or vice versa which causes a break in the digital signal and than causes the pop. Same is true when jumping to a different track. You are interrupting the digital stream and starting a new one. I read a lot on line and it appears that other people are having the same issue with all sorts or receivers (not just the Bose system) when paired up with the PS3. To be honest the pop is only loud and annoying if the volume is above a certain level also it doesn't happen all the time. I can skip around between tracks sometimes for 20-30 mintues without issue. As I stated the work around is turning off Bitstream and using just PCM. With PCM I do notice the audio is not as robust as it is with bitstreaming 5.1 or DTS. Also my old PS3 that I had just replaced with this SLim was working perfectly without this Popping issue I have incountered.

ANy thoughts would be welcome. Thank you.

If you are talking about getting hi-def sound from your PS3 - it
CAN NEVER work over Optical - It has to be HDMI.

Yes, I am using an optical line since my Bose system doesn't have an HDMI port. I was wondering is it worth leaving on PCM and letting the PS3 Slim to the decoidng and sending over the optical line to the Bose or am I degrading the signal?? Thanks.

Since the Ps3 slim only has one hdmi how are people outputting their audio to a receiver. Are they outputting the audio from the ps3 to the tv to the receiver??

Audio and video are in one cable. So when you hook up the PS3 to the receiver you get the video and also the audio. No need to run another cable.

If the PS3 decodes to PCM, you can only get stereo over the optical cable. Since you can't use HDMI you would want to bitstream DD and DTS to get full surround sound.

This is what I thought. I dont get how others get their audio set up through there receiver. A lot of tvs dont decode properly so when you connect your PS3 slim through the hdmi yes the audio goes from the ps3 to the tv but then gets decoded to stero from the tv to the receiver unless you connect directly from the ps3 to the receiver.

Did you ever READ your PS3 Manual or this PS3 FAQ LINK

Yes, but how do you get that audio that goes from the ps3 to the tv sent to your tv. You NEED another cable connection.

Nobody uses their tv speakers so you only need to worry about going to your receiver.

Thanks for the reply and the link was helpful. I do understand the set up since I have 3 home theaters in my house. I just find it odd that I am experiencing issues with this set up that I decribed above. It is a "handshake" issue between the two components ( ps3 & bose system). Bose has confirmed this and I jsut wanted to hear people's view of PCM audio or Bitstream. No need to be a wise guy with the red mad face at the end. If you dont like my post dont reply to it.

I forgot does the PS3 slim have another HDMI cable so that could go from the receiver to the ps3 since the one is going from the ps3 to the tv.

No. One HDMI output. That either goes to the receiver (and then from the receiver to the TV with the video), or directly to the TV (if you don't have a receiver, or receiver doesn't take HDMI audio and you send audio to receiver with optical cable).

Thank you for your response.

you can use an excellent splitter from monoprice, that is expensive but works for this purpose. I am using it to split my dtv hd receiver in similar fashion, but you only use one way at one time though. I have heard people sending out put split to different rooms to different displays too.

Okay, so I decided to get the PS3 to use as my Blu-ray player (later for games), since I never owned the PS3 before, any tips on setting it up for the first time?
Right now I don't have an AVR so it will go HDMI direct to the TV, by summer I hope to get both the AVR and surround speakers.
Also, I picked up a new HDMI cable for it today (TV coming Monday), it was Vizio brand cable, it has the 1.3c spec, I thought there was only 1.3a & 1.3b. It lists Lip Sync Technology as one of the items it supports, does anyone know about the newer spec? I'll dig around the net, but thought to check with you guys too.

You should be able to find just about everything regarding setup here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post14491190

If you're going to be using the PS3 mainly as a blu-ray player, you could invest in the PS3 BD Remote. Its somewhat better than using the DualShock3 for basic blu-ray controls, and is more conventional.

Another bit of advice, when you get your AVR later in the year, be sure to change the audio output settings, otherwise, the PS3 will only output stereo to the AVR, thinking that the TV is still connected at the other end.

Thanks for the tips and FAQ link. The TV is arriving Monday and I can hardly wait. Also, I picked up some more BD movies that I haven't seen yet, but really wanted to see. The newest ones were The Hurt Locker, Star Trek, and Watchmen. These are free online to watch, but I couldn't get myself to do it because I knew the quality would not do the movies justice.

Those were good choices, I think. I liked The Hurt Locker and Star Trek so much that I bought BD copies of both, something I rarely do. I saw Watchmen in the theater and liked it but liked the longer Director's Cut, which I saw on BD, even more. Enjoy your PS3. I bought mine nearly 2 years ago because I thought it was the best BD player at its price that money could buy. I have loved it.

PS3 OS V3.21 update is out.

It addresses security flaws, and permanently removes the "Install Other OS" feature.

You are given the option to not install this update. But if you don't install, PlayStation Network and internet game features are disabled anyway, and you get no further game or Blu-Ray disc compatibility updates.

If you have an "Other OS" (usually Linux) already installed, you must transfer any data from it *BEFORE* installing this update as you will not be able to access the "Other OS" disc partition afterwards.
--Bob

Has anyone tried playing an M2TS file from a blu-ray disc on the PS3 and compare the picture against the blu-ray itself?

Here's what I noticed, if I copy the M2TS files from a blu-ray and play it on the PS3, the image seems darker. But if I were to burn that same file back to a blu-ray disc and play the disc, the image is back to normal. If you want a small sample test, use the 2012 BD and copy the 00428.m2ts file (a deleted/alternate ending scene) which is only 428MB and play it on the PS3. Then find the same scene directly from the disc and play it. I see a big difference in the brightness/gamma of the image.

More of a concern to me, is it just m2ts files from a commercial blu-ray that it's doing this to or does it have the same effect on all m2ts files? because I record stuff from TV using my Hauppague HD device straight to an m2ts file and I wouldn't want to be settling for an inferior picture...

Anybody?

Just guessing, but the only thing I can think of is that one is playing in RGB and the other in YCbCr, and you have RGB Full Range enabled which means black is output at a different level for RGB than YCbCr. With RGB set to Limited range you would expect the same black level for RGB and YCbCr.

That removal of "other OS" certainly puts the Linux folks in a precarious position...that ability was one of the benefits of the older chubbies. Now it's probably just a matter of time for them to remove the SACD ability on the older consoles.
Actually, I started worrying about that kind of stuff when Sony announced that a new fw would make the PS3 '3D' capable.
At least they can't take my 2 other USB ports away.

I have an HD PVR and m2ts files played back thru the PS3 via the ethernet connection look identical to the original captures on my STB.

I chose the PS3 years ago because it has SACD capablity and I use it a lot.

What is the corelation between modding the OS to Linux and using an original feature? Why would they remove my SACD capability??

Hey everyone, I have an odd but significant problem that just developed recently but prevents me from watching just about any blu-ray disc. I searched but didn't really find anything that seems to be the same exact issue.

Background: I bought one of the first 1080p TVs back in May 2006, a Sharp Aquos 37D90U, which has been working perfectly well in conjunction with my first gen 60gb PS3 that I bought in Jan 2007. I also use a Motorola DVR (Comcast), a Sony AW15 projector (Aug 2007), and a Sony STR DG910 (Aug 2007) receiver to complete the setup.

My current setup is:

PS3 > HDMI splitter (monoprice) > TV + AVR > PJ
Motorla DVR > HDMI splitter (monoprice) > TV + AVR > PJ

So, the PS3 HDMI output goes to the HDMI splitter, then one HDMI cable connects directly to the TV, and the other HDMI cable goes to my AVR which then connects to my PJ. Simple and easy, and it has worked like a champ for the past six months or so, never any problems playing any blu-ray discs in 1080p to the TV or 720p to the AVR/PJ.

Now, the problem is that just recently, maybe a couple weeks ago or so, I get a "incompatible video signal" error message when trying to play a blu-ray disc on my PS3. The audio will output though (of the blu-ray menu) but nothing on the screen.

I did test out whether the splitter might have been malfunctioning or whatever, so I removed it from the chain and directly connected the HDMI output of my PS3 to the TV's HDMI input, no settings otherwise changed, but still get the same message. The odd thing is that blu-rays were playing fine for months with this setup and then all of a sudden these error messages have been popping up, with or without the splitter.

I should add that updating to the most recent PS3 firmware had no effect. Anyone have any similar experiences or have any suggestions?

That is possible. WHen you copy a m2ts file and play it directly on the PS3, it's played with the XMB not the BD player. The XMB player has some restrictions audiowise like it won't play the DTS audio in a m2ts file (nor any HD audio) so there could be differences in video playback also.

A better test would be to take the m2ts file you copied off and encapsulate it in a AVCHD folder on your hard drive and play that. If done properly the PS3 will treat it as AVCHD and use the BD player.

From my own experience I see no difference between the BD and the same BD copied to a hard drive and encapsulated in the AVCHD format.

Ouch I just saw that. Now I have never booted up Linux on my PS3 and never planned to. So theoretically this update should have no issues for me. But as another poster noted, if they removed the ability to play SACD discs, that would be VERY annoying though it's hard to see why they would do that (but then again this is Sony!).

I have found ways to not updating the firmware and still accessing the PSN but this isn't the forum for that kind of discussion.

I see no reason for them to remove the SACD support in PS3 units that have that. They are adding SACD back into some of their standalone players.

There is no resource constraint here (i.e., have to remove something to make room for something else). The "Other OS" stuff was removed due to a security breach -- folks figured out how to hack the Sony PlayStation Network with stuff from the Linux side.
--Bob