One-and-Only PS3 as Blu-Ray Player Thread - Page 989

the ir2bt thread seems dead so i'll also post the info here

with the 3.50 update the ir2bt unit works fine

Hopefully I'll get my PS3 back with this update.

All the more reason to avoid 3D (which I was going to do anyway).

Thank you.

Agreed about decoding lossless, but it shouldn't require much to output a lossless bitstream (on the newer models that support it).

I was just about to say that. It should still be compressed sufficiently to be passed as bitstream.

That may be the nail in the coffin.

PS3 owners...Pwned.

Hey, when I purchased my PS3's a couple years ago there was no mention or promise that they'd be able to play 3D Blu-Ray's and it wouldn't cost anything for an upgrade. So it doesn't play all audio formats or Java but I don't have to go out and spend a few hundred dollars to play a 3D Blu-Ray, I'm happy at the moment.

Hardly the case.

3d

Updated my launch 60GB PS3 with only one hiccup. It plays blu rays just fine, but when I try and access the playstation store. It tells me it's not available in my country or region.

Anyone having similar problems, or possibly a solution?

Thanks

Same problem I am just going to wait possibly the store is being updated.

There is no audio bandwidth limitation... all versions of HDMI have the same audio bandwidth (uncompressed LPCM up to 7.1 channels) and it is a separate function from video bandwidth. Audio travels on dedicated wires in the HDMI cable itself. All versions of HDMI also support video up to 12-bits... only 1.3 and 1.4 support up to 16 bits. Since we are mostly transporting 8-bit video, there's PLENTY of video bandwidth even with the frame-packing strategy used for Blu-ray 3D. TrueHD and DTS-HD bitstreams have a LOWER bandwidth than 7.1 uncompressed LPCM... roughly HALF the bandwidth if the TrueHD or DTS-HD is 7.1 channels... less than half if the soundtrack is 5.1.

It's difficult to know whether Sony's DD from TrueHD and DTS from DTS-HD is something done for convenience so they could get the release out sooner rather than later, or whether there is some permanent hardware limitation that will never be worked-around with a future firmware update. Someone at Sony probably knows the answer.

Update did not fix mine.

Next, hidden system restore menu for: Restore File System(tonight).

After that, I'm going to crack it open and clean and inspect inside.

Not true at all.... the audio packets are interleaved with the video and dependent on the video for master timing. To wit, the Asus Xonar's won't work with out video.

The fat PS3's ARE bandwidth limited which is why they cannot pass bitstreams. This is indeed the end of the road.

That is incorrect! The FAT PS3s are able to send 7.1 PCM audio which takes a lot more bandwidth than Bitstream TRUEHD or DTS MA.

The FAT PS3's HDMI chipset lacked the ability to make the appropriate HDMI packet headers to indicate the stream included the Bitstreamed Lossless audio.

Has anyone tested the PS3 with a DLP direct to see if the PS3 will output checkerboard to a DLP natively to only use DLP Link glasses?

Yes I have the PS3 does not output checkerboard for Blu-ray 3D movies with the new 3D 3.5 firmware.

Hey all, new to the forum. Before I get to the questions, here is my current set up:
TV: Samsung LN46A850
Receiver: Yamaha RX-V663
5.1 Speakers: Klipsch Synergy Quintet SL-III
Sub: Klipsch Synergy Sub-12
PS3 80gb
Xbox 360 Elite
All running through monster power center

I currently have the PS3 video out directly to TV w/HDMI and optical audio out to receiver under "DVD".
Xbox output is HDMI to receiver under "DTV/CABLE", and HDMI to TV.

Here are my questions, and please forgive me if the answers could be found on the forum; I did a cursory search.
1. Which audio setting on the receiver should I be using for the XBOX to play games and the PS3 for Blu-Ray (straight, straight enhancer, etc)? I have been using the straight enhancer setting but after some reading, have switched to just straight, or sur. decoder as it is my understanding that they are the same. Also, the PS3 audio settings are set to all of the options (linerar pcm, dolby, etc) at various hertz, what should I have these set to? I only have 5.1 speakers, but when I use the 7ch enhancer setting, it sounds the best, or loudest.

2. Could someone point me to some beginner information about the various codecs (DTS-HD, Dolby, etc) and to some information where I could learn more about the detailed audio settings (sur. decoder, etc.)?

Thank you very much.

GoodmanOX

Have you seen this
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post14491190

These should help:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/1064

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/1233

Do any other BD players released in 2006 even play 3D discs?

2D video with 7.1 uncompressed LPCM audio would have a higher bandwidth than 3D video with a bitstreamed TrueHD or DTS-HD soundtrack. The 3D video bandwidth is only 10%-20% or so higher than the 2D video stream on average. Bitstream audio bandwidth is about 50% LESS than uncompressed LPCM. So Bitstream should be supportable unless there's some internal issue like running out of processor time.

The bandwidth of HDMI 1.0-1.2 is 4.9 Gbps. Up to 3.92 Gbps can be video with is PLENTY, more than plenty for 2D or 3D video. Yes, HDMI 1.3 upped the bandwidtth to 10.2 Gbps but this was required for support of 16 bit video at 1080p which doesn't exist in the consumer market. I don't believe there's a bandwidth limit for HDMI that's causing Sony to not (currently) support either uncompressed LPCM or lossless bitstreams with 3D video.

The Lumagen Radiance video processors expect to support 3D video and high-res audio (pass-through) with processors having HDMI 1.2.

Just updated my PS3 to 3.50 without issue. Also found out that Netflix just became available in Canada as of yesterday (Sep 22), so I signed up for my free month and hit the PS3 to sign up for my Netflix disk. Well, low and behold, there is already a Netflix app, and after a quick download I was watching Netflix in all of it's streaming glory.

Was the netflix app part of the 3.50 update?

I don't think that is the point. Sony was bragging about supporting 3D on the PS3 for years. All of that time they never mentioned the fact that its support would be crippled.

I haven't had a chance to update yet, but can anyone else confirm this?

Thanks

From IGN:

"Unlike our American friends who currently need to use the Netflix DVD to experience Netflix streaming on the PlayStation 3, the Netflix application is available for all Canadians to download under the "What's New" section of the XMB (coming to the U.S. sometime in October)."

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/112/1122781p1.html

Dammit. When's that Microsoft exclusivity agreement supposed to end???

Please show me where Sony was bragging for years. I believe the first mention of 3D support for Blu-ray discs was in January, 2010.