One-and-Only PS3 as Blu-Ray Player Thread - Page 992

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Hi, I have an older ps3 the 80g unit model #CECHE01. And it has stopped playing blu ray discs. I have tried a master reset by turning the power off on the back and then turning it back on while holding he front power button down. This worked the first time and it played a bd disc, but it has since stopped and a reset does not have any effect. Any Ideas?

Will it play a DVD?

Yes, it will play everything except blu rays.

Seems like the blu laser bit the big one.

Thanks Tyrod, I will contact sony and see where to take it or send it. Thanks

As things exist today, you'll get the same sound using either HDMI or optical... so no sense adding the optical connection. Unless your AVR doesn't have HDMI 1.4... in that case you might have to use the optical connection.

If the Denon AVR doesn't have HDMI 1.4, it's not very likely that it will pass 3D video from a Blu-ray so you'd have to connect the PS3 to the TV. Your audio would then have to go from the TV to the AVR or from the PS3 to the AVR so you might have to use the optical cable in that case... sound via optical to AVR, video to TV via HDMI. This might lead to lipsync issues your AVR could fix if it has a lipsync delay feature.

If the AVR has HDMI 1.4 all you need is an HDMI connection to the AVR and another HDMI from the AVR to the TV.

Correct. When you press "Select" to display audio and video info, it will say DTS-MA or TrueHD, but your AVR will receive LPCM and display such "lights". Sound will be the same.

Correct. When you press "Select" to display audio and video info, it will say DTS-MA or TrueHD, but your AVR will receive LPCM and display such "lights". Sound will be the same.

To me, the biggest advantage of the slims is that they use less power, and therefore, will produce less heat and may produce less fan noise. But one advantage the older models have that the newer ones don't have is is SACD playback, and possibly some better compatibility of older games. But for sound, LPCM works just fine.

In 99% of most cases so far outside of one Vizio tv I read about this year I know of no tvs that will pass a 5.1 signal when not using the internal tuner. That will usually just lead to passing 2 channel audio to your AVR for Dolby Pro Logic processing. There really is no point running optical from the tv to the AVR when you can run it directly from the PS3 to the AVR.

Just to be clear, not all of the "fats"play SACD or PS2 games. Only early models.

Thanks. My Denon does pass 3D so I won't bother with the optical cable. I'll play around with a 3D movie later on. I should be getting Ice age 3d in the next day or 2 so I'll report how poorly it sounds with this old DTS format

My debate is killing me.
I just bought a s570 and the speed and built in features are better but the PS3 has gaming.
Decisions decisions.
People who have owned the PS3 for a while have had the benefit of upgrades galore for new blu-ray functionality but it appears at least as a player it is no longer top of the heap though still very good.

"In a 2D picture-performance shoot-out, the stand-alone player also outgunned the PS3, offering more detail in its image."

I just have a lot of trouble with statements like this, unsupported (apparently) by data, measurements, or any other indication of controlled methodology. Or even of whether the writer understands what a potentially controversial statement that is. There is no reason for one BD player to produce a better picture from the same BD than another, if everything in the signal path is calibrated. Or to assume that, if there is a visible difference, that it isn't because of a malfunction. Or even to assume that one image is better than the other. You can't just toss a statement like that out there and not follow it up.

One man's "detail" is another man's "inaccurate gamma." And even professional technical writers are not immune to wish fulfillment.

SACD playback was removed about half-way through the life of the 'fat' PS3.

But cooling fans got much quieter around the same time -- or at least by the release of the last Gen fatty (80 GB).

Just tried out Monster House in 3D on my 1.4 Denon AVR and I was very pleased with the sound quality. I'm no audiophile, but I could hear no difference in sound with 3d vs 2d where the DTS HD MA lights were on.

Hi all,

I was under the impression that once our PS3's recieved the 3D firmware (3.50), we would then have to be hooked up to a HDMI 1.4 spec AVR (or equivalent), or straight to display in order to get any 3D video to be displayed on screen. I am hear to say that my Marantz SR8002 purchased in early 2008 (never have had any firmware upgrdes) is passing 3D video to my Sammy PN58C8000 via HDMI (1.3A SPEC CABLES) with no issues regarding 3D other than no sound. My reciever actually shows the right number of speakers being displayed over in the corner of my AVR Display as if it were recieving the audio correctly but still no sound. I didn't think that a non 1.4 spec reciever could pas this 3D signal. I know it is because 1: My Tv ask me to turn on my glasses, 2: I can tell I am deffinetly in 3D. I am having to run a tosslink from PS3 to my AVR for my sound however which I expected. I thought I would have to run my HDMI cable to my TV but am happy to see I do not. Any ideas as to why this model is passing the 3D ok plus display as if it were infact recieving the right sound codec just no sound being out put.? Just curious. I have tried this with a CECHA01 60gb , and a Slim 160gb and both act in the same way. I would like to hear what you all think is going on here.

Thanks,
Jeff

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It is nothing but PURE LUCK if any given HDMI 1.3 device will pass frame-packed 3D.

Lumagen is working on a firmware update for their HDMI 1.2 and 1.3 video processors for them to both be able to pass 3D audio and video without being changed to HDMI 1.4. They have a lot of programability behind the input and output jacks that other products don't have. More than likely, HK's HDMI interface is simply missing the code everybody else has that limits frame size to no more than 1920x1080. Frame-packed Blu-ray has a frame size that's a bit larger.

Many people hear no difference between high-bitrate core DTS and lossless DTS-MA. It has nothing to do with 3D. It has to do with how good the core audio really is on a BD.

All this means is that you probably wouldn't be able to hear a difference between lossy and lossless on any BD.

The point I am making is about 3D. The new update allows 3D content to be played by the PS3, but doen't pass the lossless audio. I was intitially a little concerned but I was just pointing out that it's not likely that big a deal for most people.

My point is that whether or not it will matter to a given user can be determined in advance simply by listening to the core track instead of the HD track on any BD.

A lot of people think lossless audio is of immense importance. A lot of people think it's of no real benefit. A lot of people think it's a nice upgrade, but subtle. And there are so many possible reasons for these differences of opinion that the topic isn't really subject to debate (or possibly even to analysis).

If you try it now and you don't like what you hear, you may want to buy a standalone player for your 3D upgrade. If you try it now and it still sounds fine, you can use the PS3 as your 3D player.

My Sony EX501 passes a Dolby Digital 5.1 signal from its optical digital audio output. Although your point is valid if one has an AVR as I don't know of any TVs that pass DTS/Dolby TrueHD/DTS-HD signals ... thus it makes sense to send the audio from the source directly to the AVR.

Guess I am just one of those lucky ones then. Well atleast those others that own the Marantz SR8002 will know they can pass the 3D video without a hitch, atleast mine does anyway. I could tell no difference in the video from HDMI straight to tv or run through the Marantz. Both looked great on Monster House.

I'm looking at a PS3 for my blu-ray for a new HT. I'm a little confused by all the storage options. Why do I really want a 320 or 250 GB when I can have a 120 GB for a lot less? We do some gaming. Will storage space impact Netflix streaming (we will use that function)?

Thanks.

Nope; HDD doesn't impact Netflix. Get the cheapest option. You can increase HDD size later yourself.

Thanks John.

Enjoy! I had a dedicated BR player but recently got a 40G PS3 for cheap. So far, I love it as a BR player! Great game system, too.