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post #31441 of 32083
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Originally Posted by PTAaron View Post

What can't the fat do that the slim does? (Aside from bitstreaming - which doesn't really matter.) I must be missing something.

What is bitstreaming?
post #31442 of 32083
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Originally Posted by KtrainHurricane View Post

What is bitstreaming?

I'm not going to get the technical definition right - but it lets the player send the audio signal to your receiver for your receiver to decode.
The PS3 "fat" doesn't have the hardware to support that, so it decodes the signal and sends it out as multichannel to the receiver.

Basically the ONLY difference is that with bitstreaming your receiver will say "DTS-MASTER" or "DOLBY TRUE-HD" where with sending the decoded multichannel it will say "LPCM" or "Multichannel".
post #31443 of 32083
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Originally Posted by PTAaron View Post

I'm not going to get the technical definition right - but it lets the player send the audio signal to your receiver for your receiver to decode.
The PS3 "fat" doesn't have the hardware to support that, so it decodes the signal and sends it out as multichannel to the receiver.

Basically the ONLY difference is that with bitstreaming your receiver will say "DTS-MASTER" or "DOLBY TRUE-HD" where with sending the decoded multichannel it will say "LPCM" or "Multichannel".

Ok, thanks!


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Originally Posted by KtrainHurricane View Post

Slim...which means my bdt110 CAN offer TrueHD for 3D discs while the PS3 can not? This means that one of the newer firmware updates addressed DTS? Is probable that another firmware update in the relative future will address TrueHD?

^So what about this?
post #31444 of 32083
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Originally Posted by KtrainHurricane View Post

Ok, thanks!



^So what about this?

I don't know what is in the future - but for now DTS-Master will pass with 3D, but dolby HD won't... a few posts back there was some discussion about it.
post #31445 of 32083
Something strange just started happening, my PS3 won't play the HD Color Bars pattern on the Spears and Munsil disc. Plays all the other patterns fine and used to play all of them. Any suggestions?
post #31446 of 32083
Have u been smoking any mother nature?
post #31447 of 32083
Hi all- I'm new to this so please pardon the newbie question. I have a slim and want to set the audio output to bitstream. When I go to the audio set up options, it asks if I want type 1, type 2 or type 3. What are the differences and which should I pick? I'm connected to a new avr via hdmi and have 5.1 surround.

Thanks!
post #31448 of 32083
Go to sound settings and run the first option that it shows, choose from hdmi/optical
post #31449 of 32083
Thanks, but what's the difference between the three?
post #31450 of 32083
I have the Fat Ps3 sound settings are HDM Digital,av multiple.
The only thing that I can remember seeing type 1,2&3 are from Music settings

My bad go to video settings and then BD/DVD Audio format (HDMI) and change it to Bitstream
The type 1,2&3 are just for mixing music, I use type 3 since I have it connected to my Surround sound. More info on Sony ps3 firmware update page.
post #31451 of 32083
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Originally Posted by KtrainHurricane View Post

What is bitstreaming?

You can think of bitstreaming as a zip file. It takes whatever the audio format(s) is/are and compresses them for digital transmission. Once the bitstream reaches the avr or whatever, the "file" is decoded based on whatever codecs that avr possesses and plays the appropriate audio file.
post #31452 of 32083
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

You can think of bitstreaming as a zip file. It takes whatever the audio format(s) is/are and compresses them for digital transmission. Once the bitstream reaches the avr or whatever, the "file" is decoded based on whatever codecs that avr possesses and plays the appropriate audio file.

Well since it is "compressing" the file does it not become inferior?
post #31453 of 32083
Incorrect analogy.

The signal is already compressed, bit streaming determines whether the PS3 or the AVR is the ultimate decoder of the compressed signal.
post #31454 of 32083
i don't think the "type-1/2/3" really does anything over hdmi, does it?
post #31455 of 32083
I cannot believe what seems to have happened. It just isn't possible. My BDP-S550 died AND my PS3 both died approximately the same time. The PS3 was in use last night to watch Charlie Chaplin on Netflix. The girls used the BDP this evening to watch a movie for school. Now, after dinner, neither will work. This just does not happen.

Neither will show the on-screen menu on power up. Neither will output video or audio via the HDMI output. The BDP will not output video via its component video outputs (the PS3 does not have these).

The player seems to be functioning properly - opens/closes tray, plays disk upon closing, front panel displays elapsed time siince start of playback,...

No, there were no power surges or outages. All the clocks in the house are running properly.

The AV receiver seems to be working fine. When I plug in my TV tuner and select that as the input I get audio and video as expected. I tried this as source material on several different inputs to the receiver and they all work (plays the audio and transmits the video via the HDMI output to the TV display).

The TV display is working just fine.
post #31456 of 32083
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Originally Posted by Big Lag View Post

I cannot believe what seems to have happened. It just isn't possible. My BDP-S550 died AND my PS3 both died approximately the same time. The PS3 was in use last night to watch Charlie Chaplin on Netflix. The girls used the BDP this evening to watch a movie for school. Now, after dinner, neither will work. This just does not happen.

Neither will show the on-screen menu on power up. Neither will output video or audio via the HDMI output. The BDP will not output video via its component video outputs (the PS3 does not have these).

The player seems to be functioning properly - opens/closes tray, plays disk upon closing, front panel displays elapsed time siince start of playback,...

No, there were no power surges or outages. All the clocks in the house are running properly.

The AV receiver seems to be working fine. When I plug in my TV tuner and select that as the input I get audio and video as expected. I tried this as source material on several different inputs to the receiver and they all work (plays the audio and transmits the video via the HDMI output to the TV display).

The TV display is working just fine.

Check your HDMI cables. I had a similiar situation a few months back and had to replace every cable going into the AVR.
post #31457 of 32083
Yes, I did a lot of swapping last night. This is really, really wierd.
post #31458 of 32083
Does the PS3 light up at all? I would simply and connect it to the TV straight with a different cable and can try both HDMI and it's included composite cable. You will have to reset the video output by continuously holding down the power button. The PS3 also has a recovery menu. Check youtube or google on the exact process for both. Best of luck.
post #31459 of 32083
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Originally Posted by razel View Post

Does the PS3 light up at all? I would simply and connect it to the TV straight with a different cable and can try both HDMI and it's included composite cable. You will have to reset the video output by continuously holding down the power button. The PS3 also has a recovery menu. Check youtube or google on the exact process for both. Best of luck.

I tried the composite cable last night - no go. What I did not do (or know) was how to direct the video to that cable, given that I could not navigate the OSD (due to absence of visible video output).

What do I do? Turn PS3 off, then turn it back on holding down the power button until video redirects over to composite cable?
post #31460 of 32083
I did plug the (properly functioning) TV directly into the HDMI output of the PS3. It would not show me either the PS3 menu or a Bluray I was using as source material.

Ditto for the Bluray player. The TV would not show me anything even when plugged directly into the player's HDMI output.
post #31461 of 32083
Does the PS3 light up at all? What color LED? Does it do the regular beep when you turn it on? Do check google or youtube on the video reset or 'safe mode' procedure.
post #31462 of 32083
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Originally Posted by razel View Post

Does the PS3 light up at all? What color LED? Does it do the regular beep when you turn it on? Do check google or youtube on the video reset or 'safe mode' procedure.


Yes, the PS3 seems to be operating normally. It beeps and has red/green power status indicator. The fan runs. The HDD spins up.

Thanks for the help.
post #31463 of 32083
When I got home tonight, I tore the whole system apart. I have reassembled everything out in the open on the living room floor. Guess what? Everything is working fine. Im not sure if I should be happy or sad.

It all works = happy

Two days of debugging = sad

I'm going to use this opportunity to improve the wiring runs and add some features I've been thinging about. That way, I get something positive, a benefit, out of all this hassle.
post #31464 of 32083
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Originally Posted by Ocielz View Post

I have the Fat Ps3 sound settings are HDM Digital,av multiple.
The only thing that I can remember seeing type 1,2&3 are from Music settings

My bad go to video settings and then BD/DVD Audio format (HDMI) and change it to Bitstream
The type 1,2&3 are just for mixing music, I use type 3 since I have it connected to my Surround sound. More info on Sony ps3 firmware update page.

I went into the settings of my slim and changed the audio output to bitstream. However, when I play a BR (dark knight with True HD) my pioneer receiver displays dolby digital - not True HD.

Any thoughts? Thanks!
post #31465 of 32083
I know some of the Warner discs, you have to go in their audio settings and switch from DD to DDHD. They come as Dolby Digital as their main audio, see if that helps.
post #31466 of 32083
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Originally Posted by Ocielz View Post

I know some of the Warner discs, you have to go in their audio settings and switch from DD to DDHD. They come as Dolby Digital as their main audio, see if that helps.

Whoa, didn't realize that. Thanks a million - it works great now!
post #31467 of 32083
Glad I could help
post #31468 of 32083
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Originally Posted by jd213 View Post

The PS3 can now convert 1080i discs to 1080p60 and upscale 480i/480p content (and 720p content as well, I assume) on BD with the new 4.00 system software. I tried a couple 1080i discs I have, seems to work fine with 3:2 and 2:2 pulldown for 24fps and 30fps content. Didn't test out its deinterlacing capability with native 1080i material, though.

Took them long enough, I wonder why they're only providing this capability now when it's clear the PS3 has had the capability to do it for BDAV discs and m2ts files. Not that I really need it since I have a video processor and several displays and other players that will do it just fine, but it could have come in handy a couple years ago.

Somehow I totally missed this news, and was shocked when I suddenly found my PS3 upscaling SD extras on a BD. Excellent!

Like you say, it's taken them so long to add this feature that I had pretty much given up waiting for it. Still, it's a very welcome addition.
post #31469 of 32083
Not really sure where to post this, but I swapped a new Panasonic bluray player into my setup to compare to my old fat 80gb PS3. Set the Panny
BDT-110 to bitstream and was underwhelmed?? The bass was not as strong as the ps3. The AVR flashed a dialnorm -4. Had to raise the volume 10db for it to be comparable. Seems really odd to me. I am assuming I need to change a setting on the Panny? Any PS3 owners noticed any change going from a PCM ps3 to bitstream standard player?

I do run Dynamic EQ on my Denon 2809 but have not changed any settings switching from the PS3 to the Panny.
post #31470 of 32083
Currently, I am underwhelmed with my PS3 slim. I wish the PS3 could have basic apps and shortcuts to common sites like Pandora. I wish it could have an acceptable web browser for any sort of practicle viewing.

I was debating about ditching the PS3 for a Google TV. I do agree that the PS3 being so updatabale is awesome. Currently I am jealous with my buddy that watches a lot of free TV from the internet via google searches. He can see Youtube wide and clear on his TV, along with many other sites. I guess I can at least play Blu-Rays on my PS3
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