One-and-Only PS3 as Blu-Ray Player Thread - Page 1063

Optimizing Your PS3
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How to Set Up PS3 3D Guide
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Same here, I never had problems with playing any disc with my PS3 fat (until the day it developed YLOD problem). I have watched over 1000 movies with it. Now I'm planning to get something to replace it but it seems very hard to find one that would be as reliable. I'm considering Sony BDP-S590 or S490 but when I saw that player in flesh I'm confused about how durable these are because they feel very flimsy. Also I have no idea how well standalone player work with latest titles or do you need to wait for updates long time. This is where PS3 is also excellent because movie studios use it as reference player there will be support playing all titles on PS3.

Only things kept me from purchasing another PS3 (yet) is that I don't know how good PS3 slim (original slim ,not the one that is coming soon) is compared to PS3 fat. It seems to be build cheaper but I think it is still quite solid build. Is blu-ray drive mechanism still good in slim? I've seen reviews stating drive is also slower. Only thing against PS3 is the heat it puts out and the fact that I don't play games or use it for anything else than playing blu-ray movies it seem a little waste. Picture quality in PS3 is excellent and I don't know if many standalone players can compete with it. I also have Panasonic BDT110 but I sometimes find PS3 better. I use projector and watch about 96" screen so even tiniest differencies are visible. I also feels that PS3 has smoother motion even both players are outputting 24p.

I want to use the video processor in my Pioneer VSX-1120 receiver and I would like to know what resolution should I set my PS3 to for watching blu-ray movies, dvds, and Netflix streaming (sd and hd)?

Sorry if it has been Posted already... Sony is releasing their third generation this winter... It will be about 25% smaller than the current model...

I just ordered my bdp 790 and here Sony announced a new ps3;( would it do 4k upscale ?

Unless the new PS3 works with an IR remote (which I highly doubt), you can have it. My current PS3 just collects dust anyway. But I guess a 25% smaller one would collect 25% less dust.

Does anyone here seen the latest Slim (not upcoming ultra slim) versions CECH-3003-3006? I saw some complaints that blu-ray drive is very noisy and something in the graphics chip features maybe reduced. It would be interesting to know how those features will affect blu-ray playing (is it also very noisy playing dics and does graphics have something reduced in DB-playing also)?

Not to mention the power consumption. My fat PS3 pulls 3 Amps (360 watts). My Sony BDP S570 pulls 20 watts (3% of the PS3).

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Tell me about it. The newer sony players are even better. My S390 only pulls 11W. So, if, for example, you average an hour per day, yearly power cost for the PS3 would be about $350. The cost for a 390 would only be about $10. That's enough in energy savings alone to pay for the player plus a year of Netflix streaming and discs, and rent 50 blu-rays at Redbox (a rental every week).

I think I'll stick with my player.

I know many here like IR remotes, but for me one of the great things about the PS3 is the Bluetooth remote. It always works. I don't need line-of sight (my equipment is not all sitting in front of me, it's in a room behind me). I don't need to use IR extenders. I just wish other manufacturers would follow Sony's lead and switch over to this more advanced, and much less buggy, system.

harmony needs to make a Bluetooth remote first

A few have. For example, Dish uses something better than blue-tooth called ZigBee. It's lower power than bluetooth or 802.11b/g/n, more robust and provides more features like remote battery monitoring, location service, signal strength, interactive learning and setup, remote downloading of new codes and backup/restore capability of both remote programming and device settings. Plus I can pair 255 remotes with the same device versus just a handful with the PS3 and other bluetooth devices.

However, until ALL manufacturers adopt the same technology, we're stuck with the lowest common denominator which is IR. I have a free solution for my PS3 which is HDMI CEC. It works fine. But I should be able to use IR if I want and not have to buy a bluetooth remote. I haven't used an OEM remote on any of my equipment in over 10 years, and I'm not about to start now. So it's critical that I can integrate every device in my home theater with my control system. If PS3 can't be cheaply or easily integrated, then it doesn't belong in my system. The only reason I have one is for my kids. If it were up to me, I'd never buy another one. And while I agree that bluetooth has some nice advantages, but failing to include a simple 25 cent IR receiver for compatibility with universal remotes is inexcusable. If Xbox can do it, why can't PS3? If they want their system to be part of your home theater, then they should make it compatible.
Edited by mdavej - 9/21/12 at 11:50am

They do - I use my Harmony 900 with the PS3.

I do not believe the 900 will do it by itself, it needs the Logitech PS3 Bluetooth adapter, which I believe any Logitech remote can use, I know it works with the 880.

It's a bit of a misnomer to declare that Logitech makes a stand-alone Bluetooth remote.

There's nothing special about harmony. Any remote can be made to work with the PS3. There are tons of solutions out there ranging from free to $150 or so. But that's missing the point, which is that you shouldn't need any add-ons to control it. IR should be built in. And it's not that I like IR. I hate IR. But that's the standard right now, and until everybody changes, we're stuck with it.

That's correct. Only the Logitech Harmony Adapter for the PS3 will allow a Harmony remote to perform every one of the 51 functions available on the PS3. My first Logitech Harmony Adapter died earlier this year and after doing some careful research, I replaced it with another Logitech Harmony. I should add that with the Logitech Harmony Adapter, any Harmony remote can replicate all 51 PS3 functions.

Yes, I have one as well and have been 100% satisfied with it, I wasn't sure if it worked with the whole Harmony line though and not just the more expensive models. If mine went bad I'd have another in 1 day, wouldn't even think about a different solution.

You might wanna check if your electricity company is ripping you off. Original PS3 takes about 180W when playing blu-ray, so 0.18kW x 1 hour x 365 days = 65,7 kWh, even if we assume it would be pulling max. wattage 360 it would be only 131,4 kWh yearly. You said it costs 350 BUCKS. Does electricity really cost 2,66$ per ONE kWh where you live? In Europe I pay about 0,16$ per kWh so 131,4 kWh would cost about 21 BUCKS a year.

It is true that PS3 consume much more electricity than standalone player but even then if you use it only few hours a day it will not cost you much. Also considering current slim model take only about 75W when playing blu-ray it is less than 55kWh a year if you use it two hours a day so yearly cost would be under 10$ (unless you really pay for several bucks per kWh) . I would not rule out PS3 for using blu-ray player just because of power consumption since it is neglible sum of money.

I can assure you that at 110 Volts (US voltage), the original PS3 consumes 360 Watts. I have measured it directly. I can't speak for European models where your voltages are different.

My 70" LED backlit Sharp tv only pulls about 70 Watts on average.

The power consumption of the original PS3 during BD playback is 168-169W as measured by the highly respected Japanese website AV Watch: http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/topic/20090831_311428.html (Japanese power is slightly different but not enough to account for huge variances in consumption).

There's something seriously wrong with your PS3 or your measuring method if you're getting 360W.

110 volts does not add up to more wattage generally. If your PS3 really pulls 360 watts playing blu-ray it is faulty someway or your meter is giving wrong results.

Check any reviews you can find and it is only about 180 watts for original fat PS3 when playing blu-ray. Later models are only 75 watts or even slightly less. I measured yesteday my old 40GB (90/65nm processors) and it was pulling about 140-150 watts when playing blu-ray.

hello guys, i need some advice from all of you, this is my first time to own a HDTV 3D and i want to use my ps3 for blu-ray and gaming. can i ask what is the best settings that i need to adjust or input on my tv and for my ps3 to watch blu-ray and games? thank you so much.

Does anyone know why the PS3 (Fat) will not send LPCM to my receiver? I was setting up this for my friend who has my old AVR (Integra HDMI 1.1)......I set the XMB menu settings for audio as stated in Page #1 of this thread. The PS3 is set up to send LPCM to the receiver. The receiver is set up correctly because I kept the same settings as when I had my pioneer BDP 52 BD player that also needed to do the internal decoding of the lossless tracks.
However when playing "Real Steel" with a 7.1 DTS Master audio lossless track on the PS3 I could not get the AVR to display MULTI CH PCM, which is the way I know the player is decoding/sending the lossless track to the AVR:confused:.

Any help is appreciated.

Paul

See my reply to caloyzki above.

Not all older receivers support DTS Master audio lossless or Dolby TrueHD. Even thought they have HDMI (1.1 is ok, but 1.2 should be the minimum), it's the decoding capability of the receiver that matters.

You might want to look up the Integra model online and check it out.

Thanks for the reply, but the receiver IS NOT DOING THE DECODING! That is the point of sending lpcm to the AVR and letting the BD player, in this case the PS3, do the decoding of the lossless tracks.

Again I ask, is there a setting that perhaps I overlooked.

Thanks
Paul

Let me clarify. Just so I know we're talking about the same things...

1) The DTS-HD MA and Dolby TrueHD are LOSSLESS COMPRESSION codecs (Decoded to PCM on the PS3 or sent to the receiver via bitstream to get decoded)
2) The LPCM is a modulation method for the PCM (Modulation type done on either the PS3 or Receiver or DAC/ADC).

In all cases, the modulation type is LPCM (recorded format) no matter if it's compressed as DTS HD MA or Dolby TrueHD. The only difference is that some features like "button click" sounds are missing when you browse the Blu-ray menu on a movie. The nice thing about bit-streaming is that for receivers that support DTS-HD MA and Dolby TrueHD, will actually display those names on the LED.

The only thing I can think of is that your older receiver using HDMI 1.1 wont support 7.1 dedicated UNCOMPRESSED LPCM multichannel. We're talking about high-def uncompressed lossless independent audio signals. This is not necessarily the same as Dolby 5.1 or DTS 5.1 even those those are PCM as well.

Do this: Post the model number of the receiver so I know what receiver were actually taking about; not just "older Integra." Next, if you can, put in a Blu-ray that uses Dolby TrueHD 5.1 or DTS HD MA 5.1 and see if it shows "MULTICHANNEL' on the display.

Also, we're only talking about the LED display, correct? You are getting at least 5.1/7.1 channels outputting from your speakers, right (the old fashioned ear test)? Also, if "Multichannel" is not displaying on the LED, then what are you seeing being displayed?

For all I know, you could be getting the correct 7.1 output but the firmware on the receiver just hasn't been updated or doesn't know how to display 7.1 on the LED.

As far as settings. You can go to the PS3 manual and make sure you have all the codecs selected...

http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/audiooutput.html

MY DENON 1612 only can show multi channel in from my fat ps3. I cannot send a signal from the ps3 and have the reciever decode it. am i in the same situation?>?

Thanks Digital View, the receiver is the Integra 7.6 AVR, I had it for 5 years and it was solid throughout. When I play a BD with a lossless track DTS HD MA or Dolby TrueHD, the receiver was showing on its front display Dolby PLII..... this should only appear if the receiver is getting a 2 channel signal, that is the way I set up the listening mode presets on the Integra. This means that some how the PS3 is sending a downmix of 5.1 or 7.1 to the AVR. Is there a setting on the PS3 that I perhaps enabled by accident?

When I play a regular music CD (2 CH) the receiver shows on its front display "STEREO", which is correct based on my listening mode presets.

Thanks
Paul

also BTW A Bugs Life BR will NOT play on my fat ps3. anyone else experience this?