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Originally Posted by hidefpaul View Post

Thanks guys for the replies......I'll double check all audio settings as you guys indicated.....I am sure it is just a setting I overlooked in the PS3...... because the Integra 7.6 AVR (HDMI 1.1) provided me with lossless sound in Multichannel PCM, so long as the player ( in my case it was a Pioneer BDP 52) did the internal decoding.
Thanks
Paul

In reference to your Pioneer, I'd like to test what signal is actually getting to your old receiver from your BDP 52. It it really uncompressed 7.1 or is it Dolby 5.1 just saying Multichan?

Also, not sure if you saw in my other post, as another test, try DIFFERENT Blu-ray movies, with 5.1, 6.1 and 7.1 LPCM. Also, do the same for the TrueHD and DTS HD MA (5.1, 6.1, 7.1). I would have tested that just to make sure it's not a limit on just 7.1 PCM.

You can go here to find what audio codecs are used for almost every Blu-ray: http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/TechStats.php

- DV
post #31892 of 32083
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

i checked all my audio and video settings and they are as posted here. My Denon 1612 STILL only says multi ch in. I cannot get it to decode the signal. not a big deal as I am still getting 7.1 but would really like the receiver to do the decoding

You'll have to use bit streaming for that.
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

i checked all my audio and video settings and they are as posted here. My Denon 1612 STILL only says multi ch in. I cannot get it to decode the signal. not a big deal as I am still getting 7.1 but would really like the receiver to do the decoding

Hi Brian Fineberg, its because you have a fat PS3 (which cannot bitstream).
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi Brian Fineberg, its because you have a fat PS3 (which cannot bitstream).

damn fat ps3!!! haha thanks for the reply!
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Is it just me but I recently upgrade my PS3 fat firmware from 3.66 to 4.21 and I think it looks slightly softer than before. Comparing to my Panny BDT110 it is noticeable in actual movies but resolution patterns still look flawless. Anyone noticed that?
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Most of you know that Sony is coming out with a new ultra-slim PS3 this month. It no longer uses a slot drive. The top right side of the PS3 slides to the left exposing the BR drive. You place the disc in the drive and slide the cover back to the right to play the disc... Which means you now have to have clearance on the top to be able to put a disc in...

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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi Brian Fineberg, its because you have a fat PS3 (which cannot bitstream).

I have an original fatty 60GB PS3. And the bit streaming was fixed in subsequent firmware updates.
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Originally Posted by Digital_View View Post

I have an original fatty 60GB PS3. And the bit streaming was fixed in subsequent firmware updates.

It can bitstream lossy DD and DTS, but not lossless TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio. It's a hardware limitation of the original model.
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another quick question...for my fat ps3. When playing DVD the image is smaller than my screen? what settings do I have...I feel it is the upscaling...any input?
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what movies are you watching, looks like you got 1.85:1-2.40:1 material something like lord of the rings trilogy..
Edited by mystic_sniper28 - 10/5/12 at 6:42pm
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

another quick question...for my fat ps3. When playing DVD the image is smaller than my screen? what settings do I have...I feel it is the upscaling...any input?

In Video Settings, make sure "BD/DVD - Upscaler" is set to "Normal".
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I want to buy one.
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Do you need a cash loan at an obscene interest rate? Let me know...biggrin.gif
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Does anyone know how PS3 Slim HDMI-output is different than Fat? I know Sony changed HDMI-chip from Silicon Image to Panasonic. There is one site that says Slim has noise in HDMI image http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-hdmi?page=3
They say it is imperceptible to the human eye but is it so also with very large screens?
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Originally Posted by Big Lebowski View Post

Does anyone know how PS3 Slim HDMI-output is different than Fat? I know Sony changed HDMI-chip from Silicon Image to Panasonic. There is one site that says Slim has noise in HDMI image http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-hdmi?page=3
They say it is imperceptible to the human eye but is it so also with very large screens?
other than the slim supporting bitstreaming im not sure if there's any real difference
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Originally Posted by swarm87 View Post

other than the slim supporting bitstreaming im not sure if there's any real difference

This has been my understanding (I never used Slim myself) about this and I was suprised to read that article telling about noise in HDMI output.
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Will my sub cause my PS3 to skip?

Hello all,

This might seem strange to post here, but I hope you'll indulge me.

The question is pretty much what you see in the subject line. We're finishing our basement, which is where our theater has been and will be. We're trying to figure out where we can put our subwoofer and PS3 (bluray player) and receiver, etc. One leading option is to put the PS3 in a cabinet between one and five feet from our Outlaw Audio LFM-1.

What I'm wondering is whether our sub is likely to cause the PS3 to skip when we're watching (especially) action movies. We can't test it right now because of the construction. Thoughts?

Thanks,

Tiger
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I don't think to. I use PS3 and have a SVS 13Ultra plus Cerwin Vega CLS15x2.

No skipping at all.


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I was going to post my question in the general BR section but it might be more appropriate here.

I already have a slim PS3 that I use in the bedroom (for light gaming and Netflix). I need a BR/Netflix player for my main TV (Panasonic 65GT50) and I've been reading reviews on so many of them, was very close to picking up the Panasonic BDT220 ($170 in Canada) but some users reported issues with Netflix streaming which is a concern to me.

Then I started wondering, since I'm spending close to $200 on a BR player, why not just get another PS3 for not that much more? I already love the PS3's Netflix interface and capabilities, it's certainly a decent enough BR player. The only issue is the lack of IR so having to use a separate remote is a bit of a hassle but then I could just get logitech's PS3 adapter for my Harmony which would solve this.

In this day in age, is there any reason (apart from cost) NOT to get a PS3 over a standalone BR player?
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No IR remote sensor, big, slow, noisy, complicated, power hog, wrong shape/size for a rack, practically no streaming apps, mediocre DVD upconversion. Just getting a logitech adapter is $50US, which is half the cost of an entire stand-alone player and more than many used players. But since you already have a PS3, you already know all of this.

Can't think of a good reason TO get a PS3 instead of a stand-alone in this day and age. Can't even think of a reason to spend $200 on a stand-alone player.

(My opinion will probably not be very popular in this thread).
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

mediocre DVD upconversion.

Says who? The PS3 does a better job of upscaling than even HTPCs: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1287869/ps3-vs-htpc-dvd-upscaling-comparison-pix

It's also one of the fastest players for loading BD-J titles, so I'd hardly call it slow, either.
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

No IR remote sensor, big, slow, noisy, complicated, power hog, wrong shape/size for a rack, practically no streaming apps, mediocre DVD upconversion. Just getting a logitech adapter is $50US, which is half the cost of an entire stand-alone player and more than many used players. But since you already have a PS3, you already know all of this.

Can't think of a good reason TO get a PS3 instead of a stand-alone in this day and age. Can't even think of a reason to spend $200 on a stand-alone player.

(My opinion will probably not be very popular in this thread).

Thanks for the reply. As far as noise (maybe I just lucked out with a good one) mine is dead silent, even when the disk is spinning. Shape isn't an issue for me as all my devices are in a media centre each having its own shelf. I think the original fat PS3 was a power hog but if I'm not mistaken the slims have a shrunken CPU/GPU so power consumption is less, but I'm sure it still uses more power than a standalone BR player. The only streaming service I need is Netflix which it has. You're right though, the cost (especially when factoring in a PS3 Harmony adapter) is a little high, although I'm in Canada where any decent standalone BR player (with wifi and 3D) is $150-200 anyhow.

The thing that concerns me about standalone BR players is their Netflix implementation. I recently tried the Sony S590 BR player and while the Netflix app looks the same as the PS3's, it was super sluggish in comparison. I'm reading similar issues with other BR player's Netflix app. So it looks like the added cost is the only factor.
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

No IR remote sensor, big, slow, noisy, complicated, power hog, wrong shape/size for a rack, practically no streaming apps, mediocre DVD upconversion. Just getting a logitech adapter is $50US, which is half the cost of an entire stand-alone player and more than many used players. But since you already have a PS3, you already know all of this.
Can't think of a good reason TO get a PS3 instead of a stand-alone in this day and age. Can't even think of a reason to spend $200 on a stand-alone player.
(My opinion will probably not be very popular in this thread).

Well I don't see a problem with missing IR in PS3 because if you get PS3 blu-ray remote controller it works via bluetooth and it is excellent and no need to point it towards player. I've used that remote so long that I can use it in total darkness.
This Slim model does not look big to me. It is often equal or a bit slower than my Panasonic standalone player (40 vs 50 seconds) but in some titles the PS3 is a lot faster. Slim models are not that noisy either. I don't see what is complicated in PS3, once you check couples of settings it works like any standalone player. I don't think power consumption is any problem especially with current Slim models. I just got one and measured it myself and it is only around 70w. It is about the same as old fashion light bulb. in my opinion DVD upconversion is pretty nice but it definitely has different look than many standalone player that use simplier scaling algorithms. Some peoples say it is much better than standalone player. In PS3 they are using more sophisticated edge adaptive scaling method which needs powerful cpu.

I ended up getting another PS3 for my main blu-ray player because it is so nice to use, it has very fast interface, it supports every title and is updated frequently and blu-ray image is as good as it can be (there are only few players that do everything right and the PS3 is one of them).
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If I have to pay $50 to use it with a universal remote, no thanks. I understand that the bluetooth remote exists, but I will not use more than one remote for my home theater. Haven't done it in 10 years, and am not about to start now. If sony was serious about wanting people to use the PS3 in a home theater, they'd have added a 25 cent IR receiver like every other home theater component in existence.

This is what I mean by complicated. To watch netflix on a stand-alone player, I press one button on my remote. On PS3, I have to navigate to the app, which takes several steps and several seconds by the time you boot up and log in.

Power consumption difference is huge. My standalone player uses 11W. That amounts to about $1US/month less, which is enough to rent a DVD.

It is fast, I'll give you that. But it's a terrible fit for my home theater for the above reasons plus the lack of streaming apps. It's also an odd shape and size, relegating it to the top of the stack of components in my rack, which isn't a good place for it. I'm glad to finally be rid of mine and don't see any compelling reason to ever buy another.
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

If I have to pay $50 to use it with a universal remote, no thanks. I understand that the bluetooth remote exists, but I will not use more than one remote for my home theater. Haven't done it in 10 years, and am not about to start now. If sony was serious about wanting people to use the PS3 in a home theater, they'd have added a 25 cent IR receiver like every other home theater component in existence.
This is what I mean by complicated. To watch netflix on a stand-alone player, I press one button on my remote. On PS3, I have to navigate to the app, which takes several steps and several seconds by the time you boot up and log in.
Power consumption difference is huge. My standalone player uses 11W. That amounts to about $1US/month less, which is enough to rent a DVD.
It is fast, I'll give you that. But it's a terrible fit for my home theater for the above reasons plus the lack of streaming apps. It's also an odd shape and size, relegating it to the top of the stack of components in my rack, which isn't a good place for it. I'm glad to finally be rid of mine and don't see any compelling reason to ever buy another.

I would say get one. I plan to get another one if this one ever dies. You can get a BT remote for about 20 and that does everything that any other remote would do. I must admit that I am not into this "one remote rules them all" camp. I am quite happy to pick up and put down a remote to turn on the TV/amp/AVR etc.

As to how it looks in a rack, I really don't care how it looks. I am more interested in the film, when the thing is on, and not really looking at the rack when it's not. And if we're going to watch a film lasting anywhere up to 3 hours or so, then why care about a few extra seconds for it to start and get there?

Seggers
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It's not looks I'm concerned about. It's cramming all my components into the small space I have. Putting the PS3 on top of the pile makes it really hard to access and operate. If it were cube shaped like everything else, I could put it in a better spot.

Life's too short to juggle remotes and press a dozen buttons to accomplish a simple task when you can do it all with a $5 remote and a minuscule amount of programming. And if I have a choice to press one button or a dozen to watch Netflix, I'll go for the one-button solution.
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

If I have to pay $50 to use it with a universal remote, no thanks. I understand that the bluetooth remote exists, but I will not use more than one remote for my home theater. Haven't done it in 10 years, and am not about to start now. If sony was serious about wanting people to use the PS3 in a home theater, they'd have added a 25 cent IR receiver like every other home theater component in existence.
This is what I mean by complicated. To watch netflix on a stand-alone player, I press one button on my remote. On PS3, I have to navigate to the app, which takes several steps and several seconds by the time you boot up and log in.

Well these things are obviously matter of taste.
I'm not a big universal remote fan. I rather use products own remotes for many reasons, one of the biggest is that I want to have all functions available and I like to fiddle with settings often. I hate those press one button for turning on tv and powering up an avr and start a player.
Remote controller Sony sell separately for PS3 is superior to IR remote because you don't have to point it towards player, and it feels pretty solid too.
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Power consumption difference is huge. My standalone player uses 11W. That amounts to about $1US/month less, which is enough to rent a DVD.

It surely consume more power than those one chip wonder entry level players, but when you compare it to high end players it consume less than double.
Also if you compare PS3 power consumption to other house appliances or simple room lightning you see it is really neglible.
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A matter of taste perhaps. But, my universal has hundreds more commands available than my OEM remotes, especially for my AVR which can have several hundred discrete commands, and they're all clearly labeled and easy to put in macros or on any button or screen I want. RF works just as well as bluetooth, no aiming required. And it works for everything, not just my PS3. A given task in my system may take a dozen or more commands. I would go crazy (if my family didn't kill me first) if I had to do all that manually every time. With the complexity of today's home theaters, I don't see how people can stand not having universal remotes.
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I'm having a problem with my PS3 blu ray playback. I have the 60GB "fat" PS3 connected to a Pioneer Elite VSX-42 that's connected to an LG 47LS4600 LED tv (all HDMI). For some reason when I play blu rays I have red and blue pixels popping up on the screen. The odd part is that the problem doesn't occur during video games or when navigating the XMB interface. I also have a uverse box connected to the receiver and no issues during playback. I know it's not the cables. Like i said since it doesnt happen during games it has me really stumped. I've attached some images from Shutter Island Blu Ray.

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