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post #3301 of 31995
According to the manual it does HDCP.

http://www.plasmavision.com/Plasma_PDF/OM42VH(C).pdf

If that's the correct one, there are quite a few "p50x" models.
post #3302 of 31995
Thanks Walk! I have lots of hope now.

Now all I need is a HDMI->DVI adapter.
post #3303 of 31995
It is my understanding from reading this thread that the only way you are going to get full fidelity 7.1 channel sound is through the HDMI port and there are no adapters, etc. with HDMI audio in and S/PDIF (either optical or coaxial) audio out. Is this correct? Here's the reason I ask... I am considering buying the Sony KD-46XBR3 TV. Expensive, but I really like the way it performs. One additional benefit of this TV is the number of inputs, namely 3-HDMI and 3-Component. This combined with my current AVR (Denon AVR4802) would cover all my video switching needs; HDMI sources straight to the TV and component from my older components to the AVR and TV. This leaves the audio problem. I was playing a BR disk the other day and experimenting with the settings. By far, the best sounding was THX mode. Unfortunately, as pointed out in this thread, using the Toslink input left the rear 2 channels dead. I hate to spend the additional money for a new AVR (I'd probably go with the Denon 4306 if I did buy one). Anyway, I just to double-check to see if I had any options.
post #3304 of 31995
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Originally Posted by Tukkis View Post

Interesting. So is that optional for studios or have they said they're doing that for sure?

Fully optional for studios whether they choose to region encode any given title.
post #3305 of 31995
Transco

You'd be better off waiting for a HDMI 1.3 spec amp that will accept and decode the HD Dolby and DTS streams that will only be available from the HDMI link. Unless the player does it and then can send the signal to the amp via HDMI 1.1 or 1.2. or via a 6 -8 RCA cable link to the analogue in on the amp. A PS3 doesn't do this so the HDMI 1.3 is the only option

The TOSLINK doesn't have the necessary grunt to handle the much higher bandwidth HD sound.


http://www.dts.com/dts-hd/how-does-it-work.php

That link is DTS explanation of the HD sound options.
post #3306 of 31995
Advanced authoring for both formats require that decoding be done in the player. Most (if not all) Blu-ray releases so far have not been in advanced, but this is anticipated to be almost exclusively the case once BD-Live players hit the market IIRC. IOW, coding in the receiver will be as redundant as decoding video in the receiver (just doesn't happen these days except for those with bling bling video processors)...
post #3307 of 31995
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Originally Posted by seanoff View Post

You'd be better off waiting for a HDMI 1.3 spec amp that will accept and decode the HD Dolby and DTS streams that will only be available from the HDMI link. Unless the player does it and then can send the signal to the amp via HDMI 1.1 or 1.2. or via a 6 -8 RCA cable link to the analogue in on the amp. A PS3 doesn't do this so the HDMI 1.3 is the only option

Not quite right. The PS3 DOES to Dolby TrueHD decoding right now. However, there are only TWO BD discs that are using TrueHD - Legends Of Jazz Showcase and NIN's Beside You In Time - that most people forget that it's there. MOST high resolution audio BDs are either in DTS HDMA (usually by Fox and Lionsgate) or LPCM.

To hear the LPCM or TrueHD tracks, you need a HDMI receiver that can accept 5.1-7.1 audio input. Lots of affordable HDMI receivers are in that range now. To protect your receiver investment, do your research.

IF you want the receiver to decode TrueHD and HDMA, you'd have to wait until Fall 2007 before the next gen receiver comes along. It will certainly have HDMI 1.3 as well.


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post #3308 of 31995
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Originally Posted by dandrewk View Post

Thanks Walk! I have lots of hope now.

Now all I need is a HDMI->DVI adapter.

Visit Blue Jeans Cable or Monoprice. Both companies advertises with AVSF.

Alternatively since you're not going 1080p, you can get an AV Multi-out with component video and stereo audio. You can use this cable made for the PS2 and it'll work. Use optical or HDMI for the audio.


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post #3309 of 31995
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Originally Posted by UxiSXRD View Post

Advanced authoring for both formats require that decoding be done in the player. Most (if not all) Blu-ray releases so far have not been in advanced, but this is anticipated to be almost exclusively the case once BD-Live players hit the market IIRC. IOW, coding in the receiver will be as redundant as decoding video in the receiver (just doesn't happen these days except for those with bling bling video processors)...

^^^Yup! From what I've been reading, rumors are that advanced authored BS's are expected to start appearing this summer.
post #3310 of 31995
Hello All,

I just wanted to give everyone a lot of credit on this forum. I come here exclusively for all my ps3 info and have learned alot. I love the Blu-Ray format, the clearity on my 61 inch sammy with 10000:1 contrast ratio is beyond words. I have over 1000 dvd's and I have about 10 Blu-Ray movies and want more but I am so scared the format might die off. Not really looking for comment, just voicing a little uneasyness.
post #3311 of 31995
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Originally Posted by tmgcomp View Post

Hello All,

I just wanted to give everyone a lot of credit on this forum. I come here exclusively for all my ps3 info and have learned alot. I love the Blu-Ray format, the clearity on my 61 inch sammy with 10000:1 contrast ratio is beyond words. I have over 1000 dvd's and I have about 10 Blu-Ray movies and want more but I am so scared the format might die off. Not really looking for comment, just voicing a little uneasyness.

Only way Blu-Ray could die off at this point is being stand-offish about buying into the format... support the format.
post #3312 of 31995
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Originally Posted by seanoff View Post

Transco

You'd be better off waiting for a HDMI 1.3 spec amp that will accept and decode the HD Dolby and DTS streams that will only be available from the HDMI link. Unless the player does it and then can send the signal to the amp via HDMI 1.1 or 1.2. or via a 6 -8 RCA cable link to the analogue in on the amp. A PS3 doesn't do this so the HDMI 1.3 is the only option

The TOSLINK doesn't have the necessary grunt to handle the much higher bandwidth HD sound.


http://www.dts.com/dts-hd/how-does-it-work.php

That link is DTS explanation of the HD sound options.

Thank you for the head-up. Spending 2K+ on a receiver just to have it become obsolete in a few months would have been frustrating to say the least. At least in SD DVD's, I've always selected the DTS soundtrack when available. With my current hardware it has a much fuller, richer sound, at least to my ears. No idea if it is the most accurate sound, but I'm not an audiophile. I just go by what sounds the best to me.

This weekend I got the BR version of Phantom of the Opera. At least according to the label it has DTS, Dolby, and SDDS encoded soundtracks. I wasn't aware that any home AVR's could process SDDS, but that shows you how far behind the current technology I (and my hardware) are. For some reason, I couldn't get DTS to work, so this left me with Dolby which sounded pretty good, but certainly didn't take advantage of my current 7.1 channel sound system. Anyway, it sounds like it is best to be patient and wait for the next generation AVR rolls around. Thanks again!
post #3313 of 31995
Ok, I know how I said I had no issues with using the sixaxis for BD playback, but I went ahead and got a BT remote. My wife's been complaining about using the controller to play movies for the kids. I must say I'm really likin' the remote. All the playback functions as well as sixaxis functions all usable one handed.
post #3314 of 31995
Has anyone in this thread experienced issues with no output from your subwoofer? I have a Pioneer VSX74 and have had no luck getting sound from my subwoofer. Cables are all plugged in and it works perfectly with other inputs. It recognizes the PCM Direct input, but doesn't send anything to the subwoofer. I've tried boosting the subwoofer +10, but nothing. I'm new to BluRay and using the 5th or 6th scene from The Departed to test (pumping music).

Any suggestions or input is greatly appreciated.
post #3315 of 31995
I agree totally. I am buying blu ray as fast as i can get them. I look for used deals here and there. I try to get them for under 20.00 a piece when i can.
post #3316 of 31995
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Originally Posted by transco View Post

This weekend I got the BR version of Phantom of the Opera. At least according to the label it has DTS, Dolby, and SDDS encoded soundtracks.

You must've read the label wrong. The BD release of PotO only has English and French in DD 5.1. No DTS or SDDS. SDDS didn't even make it to the BD spec.

If your receiver is a HDMI receiver, you should use HDMI for audio and pass through the video to your HDTV.


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post #3317 of 31995
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Originally Posted by tmgcomp View Post

I agree totally. I am buying blu ray as fast as i can get them. I look for used deals here and there. I try to get them for under 20.00 a piece when i can.


I missed the last sale that Fry's had, 2 for 1. I keep an eye out everyday for those types of deals since there have not been price breaks when new releases come out. There is such a huge price variance in the price of movies.
post #3318 of 31995
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Originally Posted by cmeinck View Post

Has anyone in this thread experienced issues with no output from your subwoofer? I have a Pioneer VSX74 and have had no luck getting sound from my subwoofer. Cables are all plugged in and it works perfectly with other inputs. It recognizes the PCM Direct input, but doesn't send anything to the subwoofer. I've tried boosting the subwoofer +10, but nothing. I'm new to BluRay and using the 5th or 6th scene from The Departed to test (pumping music).

Any suggestions or input is greatly appreciated.

Problem fixed. Subwoofer cable worked on other inputs, but for some reason wouldn't handle the PS3 output. Swapped another cable and immediately noticed the booming bass. Off to Monoprice to get new cables.
post #3319 of 31995
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Originally Posted by jman425 View Post

Is there any way to switch the audio output from HDMI (direct to TV speakers) to optical (HT receiver) without going to the PS3 settings menu ? I have an older receiver that has no HDMI inputs...

no one has any suggestions ?
post #3320 of 31995
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Originally Posted by jman425 View Post

no one has any suggestions ?

not sure what you are asking, why cant you go into the settings menu and change it?
post #3321 of 31995
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Originally Posted by jman425
Is there any way to switch the audio output from HDMI (direct to TV speakers) to optical (HT receiver) without going to the PS3 settings menu ? I have an older receiver that has no HDMI inputs...
no one has any suggestions ?

I don't understand the problem. Set it to optical once, then you should be fine, it doesn't switch back unless you hold down the on switch when you turn it on.
post #3322 of 31995
Speaking for myself it's just that it's a pain if you use the PS3 sometimes with just the tv speakers (hdmi) then the next time you use it you want to use you receiver (optical). If you don't remember to switch back before you start up the disc it's a hassle. It would be nice if you could get to the xmb without having to stop/exit a disc but it doesn't appear to be possible.

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Set it to optical once, then you should be fine, it doesn't switch back unless you hold down the on switch when you turn it on.

What happens if you hold down the on switch?
post #3323 of 31995
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Originally Posted by Jeff_DML View Post

not sure what you are asking, why cant you go into the settings menu and change it?

I would like the option of switching which speakers I want to listen to without having to go into a menu to change it. For example, when watching TV, I can run the sound through my TV speakers for the news but route it to my HT speakers when I want more dramatic sound for shows and movies by just turning the receiver on. I use HDMI to connect to tv and optical to the receiver. I do this without having to go to my cablebox and switching an audio output on the menu. As far as I know, I can't do the same with the PS3 without having to access the systems menu.
post #3324 of 31995
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Originally Posted by jman425 View Post

I would like the option of switching which speakers I want to listen to without having to go into a menu to change it. For example, when watching TV, I can run the sound through my TV speakers for the news but route it to my HT speakers when I want more dramatic sound for shows and movies by just turning the receiver on. I use HDMI to connect to tv and optical to the receiver. I do this without having to go to my cablebox and switching an audio output on the menu. As far as I know, I can't do the same with the PS3 without having to access the systems menu.

I also would like this option and some!! The ps3 should be able to output sound via hdmi and optical simultaneously. Sometimes I do not want to turn the receiver on but have to because it is the only way to get sound if I have the ps3 set to optical. Hopefully sony can fix this issue with a firmware update.
post #3325 of 31995
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Originally Posted by tingham View Post

I also would like this option and some!! The ps3 should be able to output sound via hdmi and optical simultaneously. Sometimes I do not want to turn the receiver on but have to because it is the only way to get sound if I have the ps3 set to optical. Hopefully sony can fix this issue with a firmware update.


Why wouldnt you want to turn the receiver on??

Only suggestion i have to offer would be to use one of the L/R outs of your receiver to your tv, but that still requires the receiver to be on, which apparently is the issue at hand.
post #3326 of 31995
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Originally Posted by watsonusn View Post

Why wouldnt you want to turn the receiver on??

Only suggestion i have to offer would be to use one of the L/R outs of your receiver to your tv, but that still requires the receiver to be on, which apparently is the issue at hand.

Is there stereo output via the analogue out socket on the PS3? I know it uses PS2 cables and I'm sure even the included one had L+R & Video?

Typically there's at least one input on a tv that pairs analogue L+R with DVI/HDMI.
post #3327 of 31995
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Originally Posted by watsonusn View Post

Why wouldnt you want to turn the receiver on??

Only suggestion i have to offer would be to use one of the L/R outs of your receiver to your tv, but that still requires the receiver to be on, which apparently is the issue at hand.

I leave my audio gear off sometimes, as well. Usually late at night, or with a dialogue driven movie.
post #3328 of 31995
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Originally Posted by ailean View Post

Is there stereo output via the analogue out socket on the PS3? I know it uses PS2 cables and I'm sure even the included one had L+R & Video?

Typically there's at least one input on a tv that pairs analogue L+R with DVI/HDMI.

The problem here is that the PS3 can only use one audio output at a time, so if you use optical or HDMI for audio you can't use the analog outs without changing the settings.
post #3329 of 31995
Does anyone know for sure when we will be getting a firmware update for DTS-HD?
post #3330 of 31995
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Originally Posted by jwv651 View Post

Does anyone know for sure when we will be getting a firmware update for DTS-HD?

The bigger question, are we really getting an update?
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