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post #1381 of 1634
I did a quick update scan. Neither tuner on my roof antenna can get a whiff. My UHF elements are pointing towards Orion, not downtown Rock Island. The folks at WHBF still don't get it that apartment dwellers with indoor antennas, can't pick up their signals out here in Mercer County. Even my indoor antenna with a CM7777 amp can not pick up rf47 and I have it in a north window.
Bob in Aledo
post #1382 of 1634
Unfortunately when they proposed that translator they never really intended for it to reach much beyond Scott and Rock Island counties (map). If you're outside of that area you're probably just going to have to try for 4, and if you can't get 4, let them know.
post #1383 of 1634
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Originally Posted by dline View Post

If you're outside of that area you're probably just going to have to try for 4, and if you can't get 4, let them know.

I let them know every chance I got. Ron Schmidt had me on ignore for a while. LOL. JD Walls stands by their decision for VHF-LO. He believes everyone can put up a roof antenna in order to see the Quad Cities most popular channel. Remember when they selected RF4, they asked for 3.85kw. Now they are at 25kw and asking for 33kw, plus the UHF power. Sounds to me like a bad decision, especially when they have lost maybe 30% of OTA viewers in Mercer County. I can watch 4 on my HD set using the roof antenna, but can't in the bedroom or my workshop.
I have heard rumors that OTA may be eliminated. That is OK with me if the phone and cable companies can put in a fiber optic to every house in the nation.
post #1384 of 1634
I agree it was a dumb decision, when RF-17 was available. There was a semi-tropo event at lunchtime today when the Cedar Rapids stations were coming in well. On RF-47 I got ION instead of WHBF. My UHF antenna on the tower is stuck pointing directly to the Quad Cities. I was able to get KQIN digital when it was transmitting at 3kw at Orion. I can get 3ABN, RF16 analog 55 mi away all the time, WBQD-LP analog RF-26 (42 mi and similar coverage area), and TBN analog RF-61 (48 mi) also. I would think I could receive flea powered WHBF unless they were very directional away from the south.

Exdelguy

N9YSW
post #1385 of 1634
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Originally Posted by spokybob View Post

...JD Walls stands by their decision for VHF-LO. He believes everyone can put up a roof antenna in order to see the Quad Cities most popular channel....

Surely he jests. Channel 4 is barely doing better than Fox. KWQC has a stranglehold as the top-rated station in the QC --- and has for years. WHBF is the ugly stepsister.
post #1386 of 1634
Anyone in the Galesburg area having trouble with KWQC ota lately ? Since KQIN HD showed up I seem not to be able to get KWQC,just wondering if I need to adjust my outdoor antennae and get a vhf one to get WHBF.
post #1387 of 1634
Was wondering if they are having power outages over at the transmitters in Illinois?

Currently getting: 4, 8 & all the Peoria stations and Fox for Bloomington.

While not getting: 6, 18, 24, 26 ( which started coming in for the first time about a month ago) & 36

I have been getting all the above stations except 26 consistently for months.

Figure a power outage could explain this. I knwo power was out at my home for a long time last night. Buit could be something else weird on my end.
post #1388 of 1634
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Originally Posted by adm22 View Post

Was wondering if they are having power outages over at the transmitters in Illinois?

Currently getting: 4, 8 & all the Peoria stations and Fox for Bloomington.

While not getting: 6, 18, 24, 26 ( which started coming in for the first time about a month ago) & 36

I have been getting all the above stations except 26 consistently for months.

Figure a power outage could explain this. I knwo power was out at my home for a long time last night. Buit could be something else weird on my end.

That's what I would guess. I just swung my antenna around, and they're still off the air (6, 1 & 24). Didn't check 26.
post #1389 of 1634
Yeah the power was out here until about noon today. I suppose that would affect the towers.
post #1390 of 1634
Possibly a stupid question:
Recently got a HD box, the one with the 2 tuner DVR from Mediacom. I got the manual online and found where you can select the output of the hdmi cable. I selected 720p. Anyone have an opinion on this? Also, does anyone else know of any codes/tips for the box?
post #1391 of 1634
All of Aledo was dark from 5 am to 4 pm on Thursday. Our Verizon cell tower was dark for a while also. I don't know if that is common.
We still have at least two places with lines down here in town. They might be fixed by now.
post #1392 of 1634
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Originally Posted by exdelguy View Post

I heard WHBF announce that their Ch 47 translator is on the air. Since it is on very low power it would take a tropo event to receive it here in Galesburg. I can get 3ABN's analog Ch. 16 55 mi. away translator, WBQD-LP-analog 26, and TBN analog translator on Ch. 61, but no sign of Digital WHBF on RF-47. If it had more power it would be far superior to their VHF setup.

Exdelguy,

N9YSW

Here's what I would like to see happen regarding power increases and channel assignments, etc., in the Quad Cities market:

-WHBF should get off of VHF Channel 4 permanently and move to a UHF channel. I posted a listing of channels that might be available for use in the Quad Cities region about some four months ago, back in September, and the consensus was that UHF channels 14 and 17 appeared to be the best choices for full-power broadcasting in the Quad Cities; albeit not quite the only ones. Personally, I think WHBF should move to UHF Channel 14 and can the channel 47 translator as well. They can sell the low-power UHF transmitter (and possibly the channel allocation as well) to any party that is interested in starting up a new digital low-power station (community group, religious organization, etc.). WHBF's ERP should, if at all possible, be the maximum of 1 megawatt.

-WBQD-LD should put its digital signal on UHF Channel 16 instead of 14. Think about it, their branding for the past three and a half years has been "My TV 16" so why not broadcast on (both virtual and physical) channel 16? K16EL, the analog translator owned by 3ABN, is moving its digital signal to UHF Channel 20 so once that move is made, this clears the channel 16 frequency for low-power use in the Quad Cities.

-Two stations in a given area obviously cannot co-exist comfortably on adjacent channels as they would cause unacceptable interferrence to each other. If WHBF broadcast on channel 17, then this would make things difficult for WBQD on channel 16, and they (WBQD) would probably have to move to another channel to eliminate that interference. However, a full-power station and a low-power station two channels apart can comfortably co-exist in the same area as evidenced by the pre-transition existence of WQPT analog on channel 24 and WBQD analog on channel 26 locally, as well as numerous similar scenarios, particularly in larger markets, where the TV and FM dials have been overcrowded the past decade or so with low-power FM, TV, and DTV stations being only two or three channels away from a full-power FM, TV, or DTV station. So, WHBF should, in my opinion, go to UHF 14 while WBQD should go to UHF 16 (after K16EL vacates the frequency).

-Another issue locally is WQPT's digital signal. While WQPT is at least in the UHF band (thank God they didn't pick a VHF channel for post-transition!!), their antenna is lower than the other stations in the Quad Cities and their power is lower than the other UHF stations as well (only WHBF has lower power, but that's beacuse they're on VHF-LO). Initially, I thought that a power increase for WQPT would require a channel change beause I mistakenly believed that Freeport licensed WIFR (Rockford) was moving its digital signal to UHF 23 (WIFR's former analog channel and WQPT's digital channel) but I was wrong; WIFR stayed on UHF 41 (WIFR's pre-transition digital channel) after the transition. So, WQPT-DT very possibly could increase their power on their current channel 23 if they wanted to. I think it would be a good idea for them to do so as their current ERP of 80 kilowatts is very paltry compared to the 1 megawatt blowtorches of KWQC-36, WQAD-38, KWKB-25, and KLJB-49, and the 500 kilowatt flamethrower of KGCW-41. Also, the HAAT for WQPT's transmitting antenna is 269 meters, up 8 meters from their post-1997 analog antenna at 261 meters, but lower than the rest of QC stations which are at least 300 meters (WHBF's VHF channel 4 antenna is still at 409 meters in Bettendorf; the same antenna for post-transition digital as was used for pre-transition analog; WHBF-DT 58 pre-transition was 378 meters).

-So, given all that I have just mentioned above, WQPT should either increase their power and/or antenna height if possible or necessary or else apply for a fill-in translator as well, in order to cover those parts of the Quad City Metro area that are having difficulties receiving WQPT on channel 23 (mainly areas below the hill in the Mississippi Valley, e.g., the downtowns of the QC's and surrounding neighborhoods).

-Quick review: WHBF should move to UHF channel 14 at the maximum power and eliminate and/or sell the UHF 47 translator. WBQD should place its digital signal on UHF 16 once K16EL vacates the frequency and broadcasts digitally on UHF 20. WQPT should look into a power increase and/or antenna height increase if at all possible and, if for some reason it's not possible, set up a UHF fill-in translator themselves, possibly purchasing the transmitter, channel allocation, and tower space from WHBF (should they actually make the suggested move).
post #1393 of 1634
One more thing, the post back in September I was talking about can be found here. Cheers
post #1394 of 1634
Speaking of WQPT, before I logoff for the night, some sad news concerning the station. WQPT's new chief engineer, Terry Wynn, passed away last Wednesday (January 27) after a battle with cancer. Terry had recently been promoted to chief engineer after the retirement of Steve Ellis. WQPT obviously will need to find a replacement for Terry. Our condolences to the WQPT family and of course to Terry's family as well. Please keep Terry's family in your prayers.

Story can be found at qconline.com
post #1395 of 1634
I can't get a whiff of rf 47. I just called a friend who lives just south of Milan on US67. She uses a youtube antenna and a converter box. WHBF is still showing rf4. However she said she has seen rf47 sometimes, just not tonight. She rescanned twice for me.
Bob Vaughn
Aledo
post #1396 of 1634
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by QCA USA 1 View Post

Speaking of WQPT, before I logoff for the night, some sad news concerning the station. WQPT's new chief engineer, Terry Wynn, passed away last Wednesday (January 27) after a battle with cancer. Terry had recently been promoted to chief engineer after the retirement of Steve Ellis. WQPT obviously will need to find a replacement for Terry. Our condolences to the WQPT family and of course to Terry's family as well. Please keep Terry's family in your prayers.

Story can be found at qconline.com

That's sad. I worked at Black Hawk College for 18 years before retiring in July, 2008. I knew Terry....not real well....but I did know him.
post #1397 of 1634
With a few modifications to my UHF antenna I have been able to get channel 4 until Monday, 2/8/10. No help from the station. They just want to know what antenna I have. It's not just me, most I know also lost it. Something has changed. anyone know what?
post #1398 of 1634
According to the newspapers WQPT is outsourcing the technical operations/equipment to a private firm in Davenport and this after the state of Illinois granted them over a million in support funding.
post #1399 of 1634
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Originally Posted by qchdeng View Post

According to the newspapers WQPT is outsourcing the technical operations/equipment to a private firm in Davenport and this after the state of Illinois granted them over a million in support funding.

I would like to see 24.1 in 16x9 again.
post #1400 of 1634
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by spokybob View Post

I would like to see 24.1 in 16x9 again.

I've given up on them....I watch Iowa PBS HD.
post #1401 of 1634
Thread Starter 
Once again, it's vewy vewy quite in here....

Anyone getting a hint of any new HD channels from Mediacom in the Quad Cities? On Broadband Reports, a guy in Des Moines said MC posted a message on his box that these would be coming around March 8...

867 E!HD
869 TruTVHD
868 HLNHD
865 AMCHD
866 TravelHD
854 MSNBCHD
post #1402 of 1634
bier,

check the mediacom thread. just made a post about new channels on the way next week for me anyways.

I wont post them in here since QCA hasn't got the last update we had yet....
post #1403 of 1634
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by steppinrazer View Post

bier,

check the mediacom thread. just made a post about new channels on the way next week for me anyways.

I wont post them in here since QCA hasn't got the last update we had yet....

Yeah, well I've learned to (at least TRY) to be patient awaiting the new channels. Problem is, once they're added, it takes TiVo/Tribune Media Services weeks to catch up with the program info.
post #1404 of 1634
I am pleased with DISH. They added 7 new HD channels for a total of 73 plus my 6 OTA locals. I don't count the premium channels like HBO etc. I watch PPV movies once in a while in 1080i. They do have an on demand in 1080P.
I have the top 250 plus gold HD plus Platimum HD.
I like the RFD channel for horse shows and bluegrass music. DISH & RFD are in negotiations again. The deadline passed but DISH decided to extend the old contract for 30 days. RFD is still SD but at the Bill Monroe Bluegrass festival the RFD CEO said he still wants to go HD. The festival was taped in HD. That show is called The Cumberland Highlanders.
And it is very quiet in here.
post #1405 of 1634
This mornings paper says THIS-TV 26.2 is now on MediaCom. I have it OTA for a while now. I watched a Gunsmoke with Burt Reynolds as a half-breed. No toupe in those days. Good episode.
post #1406 of 1634
Thread Starter 
In response to a question from a reader, the QC Times had this to say about plans by QC local stations to broadcast their local news in HD --

At the present time, WQAD-TV Channel 8 does not have a set date to start broadcasting local news in widescreen HD. It is our hope to start as soon as possible, said Larry Rosmilso, station manager.

At KWQC, shows sent to the station in HD are broadcast that way. The newscasts are not in HD, as the station has not yet converted to HD cameras and editing.

Tim Emmerson, promotion manager for KLJB-TV Channel 18, said they hope to be broadcasting newscasts in HD by the end of the year.

At WHBF-TV Channel 4, Dr. Oz and Entertainment Tonight are broadcast in HD. As for the local newscast, while we hope to very soon be able to present them in widescreen digital format, there are no immediate plans to begin broadcasting in HD, J.D. Walls, director of broadcast operations, said."


Not surprising that WHBF has no plans to do so, and all the others won't commit to a time frame other than KLJB.
post #1407 of 1634
Why broadcast the news in High Definition when they seemingly don't care if everyone can get their signal in their previous broadcast area.Both things must be considered as cost unworthy .
post #1408 of 1634
So, if it does come to pass that KLJB is first w/local HD origination (and WHBF is still as...as... "underwhelming" with their news product as I remember them 30 years ago) perhaps, and just perhaps network affiliations could be up for grabs.

A lot of "ifs" though, the biggest being whether the nets throw their local stations under the bus w/retrans. As with anything, believe KLJB goes HD local when you see it. Would have to say though that "CW 4" has a certain ring to it...
post #1409 of 1634
Why are shows that aired in HD, when rerun (such as CSI) or any others not in HD but have the barn doors on the sides ? Don't the networks send these shows out in the HD format ?
post #1410 of 1634
Many stations can only air HD content if it is being sent "live" from the network. If they have to delay prime time programming, or if it's a syndicated rerun, it would not be in HD unless the station has the capability to record and play back shows in HD. (The broadcast equipment is a lot more complicated than your home DVR.)
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