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post #151 of 3647
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Originally Posted by kingfrog View Post

No you should not worry about burn in. The new plasmas are no more suseptable to burn in then CRTs and they have a half life 4X the CRT. 60,000 hours vs CRT 15,000.

Since you are buying at Costco you should not worry at all because you can return the Tv if it does not meet with YOUR satisfaction for as long as you are a paying member.

Thanks, Kingfrog.
That's a relief. Most ppl suggest me to get an LCD instead of plasma since I'm gonna be using it on HTPC+Std Cable most of the time. To me, 42+"LCD is still too expensive and I can't stand watching "bright" black.
post #152 of 3647
Sears has the Toshiba 42HP95 for me. Nice discount. Anyone have any experience, positive or negative, on buying from Sears? I see a 15% restocking fee on Home Electronics for something taken out of the box and plugged in. Thx
post #153 of 3647
Sears has been great for me, returns have always been hassle-free. A plasma tv may be a different story though.
post #154 of 3647
Hope a new owner of the phillips will write a quick review. I took my wife to costco tonight to checkout the phillips thats on sale, what a let down, even she was saying the picture was dull and lacking detail compared to the pioneer and visio. We talked the sales guy into letting us play with the remote but could not adjust the dull look off the screen, it was like the background/glass was gray on the phillips and black on the pioneer and visio. I really wanted the features this set has but not with that picture!!!!! Please write reviews. maybe its just a bad set on display? or completely out of adjustment? but the black levels looked terrible.
post #155 of 3647
The prices at Sears are higher than other places. But if you get a warranty from them they will stand 100% behind their products.
post #156 of 3647
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Originally Posted by BARK View Post

Hope a new owner of the phillips will write a quick review. I took my wife to costco tonight to checkout the phillips thats on sale, what a let down, even she was saying the picture was dull and lacking detail compared to the pioneer and visio. We talked the sales guy into letting us play with the remote but could not adjust the dull look off the screen, it was like the background/glass was gray on the phillips and black on the pioneer and visio. I really wanted the features this set has but not with that picture!!!!! Please write reviews. maybe its just a bad set on display? or completely out of adjustment? but the black levels looked terrible.

Ditto with my wife. Pic on Phillips is dull no matter how I played with it. I'm gonna get the Pio PDP-4214 instead. Pic looks clearer and sharper. Not bad for the price.
post #157 of 3647
I dont much like sears, but I cant complain. My first sony Wega exploded and burned up inside on the 91st day after I bought it, so the warranty was over, but they took it anyways and fixed it.
post #158 of 3647
My sears experience was excellent!! I also bought the 42HP95 from them. They were nice enough to pricematch any online price that i brought them that showed shipping costs. They used that price, deducted 10% of the difference then added tax. I was able to get it at a great price--hundreds less than their advertised price--and was able to deal with an actual store versus an online vendor.

If you do try to pricematch and they say they only honor local retailers---have them ring it up under 'other' in the place of the store name where you are pricematching and it should work. I think i pricematched from Butterfly photo...
JUC
post #159 of 3647
BARK: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=634473
Check out this thread. All talk about the Philips 50" at Costco.
The in store displays look horrible for the most part. Looks MUCH better at home.
With the lights off the black levels were fine to me in HD.

I still haven't calibrated the set or really hooked anything up with it yet. So I am still learning and adjusting. Monday I get my Directv install and new dish so mid next week i should be able to give a more detailed review.

Overall from first impressions (internal speakers not good) but everything else seems solid. I notice the lack of adjustments compared to my old Sony set but overall the picture looks solid so I plan on keeping it. Price and PQ make it a solid choice for me. Personally I wanted the Pio 50" because the aesthics of it were amazing and the PQ was also solid. But I could not validate another $1400 for it.
post #160 of 3647
We saw the Philips on display last night at Costco and the picture looked milky, like a haze over the TV. The electronics guy at Costco said he spent a good amount of time adjusting it to make it look it's best (and that was in HD format), and I thought it still looked poor.
We decided to pass on this one.
post #161 of 3647
penaddict3: For what its worth the TV looks WAY better in my family room than ANY of the TV's on display at my Costco. All the TV's at my Costco were not very impressive and at home it is like night and day.
post #162 of 3647
Just took a look at the Phillips as well at Costco. I hope my Maxent does not fail. The Phillips looks alot like the Akai did. somewhat washed out. The CNET opinion seemed on the mark.
The real deal breaker is no individual input adjustment memory though.

The only acceptable "replacement" for my Maxent if it fails seems to now be the 42" Pioneer. Pony up another $5 bills though.
post #163 of 3647
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Originally Posted by NatasNJ View Post

penaddict3: For what its worth the TV looks WAY better in my family room than ANY of the TV's on display at my Costco. All the TV's at my Costco were not very impressive and at home it is like night and day.

I did side by side comparisons from other Plasmas on display and Philips just didn't look that good. I don't have HD so I figured it could probably just look worse at home.
post #164 of 3647
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Originally Posted by penaddict3 View Post

I did side by side comparisons from other Plasmas on display and Philips just didn't look that good. I don't have HD so I figured it could probably just look worse at home.

My point was that the displays in Costcos are hardly setup properly, have mixed cables so some look better than others, and the lighting is HORRIBLE! I am not telling you to go buy the Philips but just let it be know that the picture in the store that I saw looked like a washed out bad color display. At home it looks crisp, clear, nice blacks, overall a solid picture.
post #165 of 3647
I second that... I have this TV for about 10 days... could care less if you buy it or not.....but don't pass judgement based on the Costco setup.... The Philips looked much better then the Pioneer at Costco when I went to view them... I am not disappointed in PQ at home... HD is great....not sure I woudl purchase the set if I had no HD programming.... Bring it home and set it up and then complain.....
post #166 of 3647
jmzoot,

Costco in the South San Francisco store has 6 Philips 50 inchers in stock. The picture quality looked very good. How does your picture look with regular digital or satellite feed?

Right now I'am torn between the Philips 37" LCD or the Philips plasma. The problem that I have about the plasma, is the possibility of burn-in.

Thanks,
Randy
Millbrae, Ca
post #167 of 3647
There are 6 plasma sets 50 inches or bigger in size being sold at Circuit City, and the customer reviews are generally not favorable to an even more expensive Phillips 50 inch set, which is nonetheless likely to be very similar to the model being sold at Costco.

http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/catOid/-12869/Ns/cust_rating_overall_avg|1/N/20012866+20012867+20012869+528/link/ref/rpem/ccd/categorylist.do

For what it's worth, customer reviews of electronic equipment at Circuit City are generally of high quality, listing pros and cons and using a common ordinal (rank) scale between 1.0 and 5.0. Two Hitachis rank the highest, followed by the Zenith 50 inch, , a Samsung, a Panasonic, and an LG, with the Phillips in last place. Click on the yellow grading-bar and you will be taken to the individual reviews by the customers who evaluated their sets. Note that the Panasonic was ranked 5.0 in picture quality --- or close to it --- and got lower results overall because of its sound features. The Hitach 55" is very highly rated, but only by about 10 customers (the last time I looked). The Hitachi 42" gets very high marks too.

The Zenith set is the big surprise, very highly ranked considering its price, with the customer evaluations suggesting that they find the set a real bargain.

-- Michael

PS

(i.) I saw the Phillips earlier today at the local Santa Barbara Costco, and the picture quality of the Maxent 50" X3 seemed clearly superior, though I agree with the posters who say that you can't really tell much from Costco's displays . . . what with the atrocious hook-ups there.

(ii.) A tag-on observation: in the Maxent forum, there is a link to the new plasmas that it will be bringing to the market soon, and so those seeking the existing X3 might want to wait and see what it looks like.

(iii.) Another tag-on come to think of it: Costco was also displaying the 42 inch Panasonic EDTV, priced at $1699. It had the best picture of all the sets there, including a Pioneer 43 inch not far away. Too bad it doesn't come in a 50 inch size. It would be a wonderful transition set during a period of relentless technological turmoil, what with all the changes in various HDTV's, Mpeg receivers, emission quality from TV stations, satellite and cable connections, and breakthroughs in LCD and, more important, SED based on CRT quality display . . . the latter touted by even the head of Panasonic US as the most promising dominant technology of the future.

(iv.) For what it's worth, the Maxent 50 inch --- whose speakers are removed --- was the handsomest of the sets, except for the 43 inch Pioneer.
post #168 of 3647
Randy,

regular SD cable is good...but nothing compared to HD cable....

I am having problems with my cable lines so I am not sure how good I can judge the pciture... I am constantly losing channels... but this is due to a poor fed...

I feel SD cable is worse on this set than my 10 year old 27" sony tube.... but I primarily watch HD and play XBox360... Also this is a 50 inch set compared to a 27 inche set.. As you blow up the picture you are also blowing up the imperfections on SD cable

Honestly... if you are gettin this set primarily for SD viewing I would just wait for more HD to become available.. I find myself just watchin HD due to the great PQ...

Hope this helps...
post #169 of 3647
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Originally Posted by jmzoot View Post

I second that... I have this TV for about 10 days... could care less if you buy it or not.....but don't pass judgement based on the Costco setup.... The Philips looked much better then the Pioneer at Costco when I went to view them... I am not disappointed in PQ at home... HD is great....not sure I woudl purchase the set if I had no HD programming.... Bring it home and set it up and then complain.....

Well, I saw the Phillips today also at Costco. Two words.....Washed Out.

It wasn't even close the the Pioneer sitting next to it. I guess that wouldn't matter if I brought it home but if people are reporting from stores all around the country with the same comment, I have to wonder. The other displays are running off the same feed with the same lighting.

Also, never mind the Pio, it wasn't as good as the 50" Vizio either. And the Vizio is cheaper.
post #170 of 3647
The 50 inch panasonic is back on the costco web site
post #171 of 3647
I was able to check out the Phillips right next to the Vizio and Maxent, all side by side with the same feed and same lighting at 2 different stores. The Phillips wasn't even in the same class as far a PQ. It looked like it had a gray film over the screen and washed out compared to the Vizio and Maxent. The colors weren't even close. Text was much sharper on the other 2 as well. I really wanted to like this set because of the features it has but I think the Vizio will be the one, as soon as they come back in stock
post #172 of 3647
Didn't read the whole thread, so I appologize if this was already mentioned. The Toshiba 42HP95 & 50HP95 are available at Costco.com at a rather nice price.
post #173 of 3647
So has anyone seen any 42" Pannys in any Costco locations recently? I haven't seen any in quite a while, which is a bit of a bummer...
post #174 of 3647
Yesterday, when I was out at the local Costco in Santa Barbara, I found the sales-clerk in charge of the Home Entertainment section standing alone there, and so we chatted for about 15 minutes. A likeable woman. In the course of our chat, I asked her about the warranty policy, and she said that at her store you have only 30 days in which to return a HDTV set if you happen not to like it.

She did say that in case of accidental breakage or malfunctioning, the set can be returned any time for a full refund.

Is this a local Costco-outlet decision, or have others of you heard something to the same effect at the stores in your area? Of course, you could always ensure that a set you didn't like after one month malfunctioned, but in effect the change in policy --- if it's a Costco decision overall --- would only be encouraging cheating.

-- Michael
post #175 of 3647
From my understanding they encourage a 30-day return window. But from what I can tell they will allow it beyond that. It is not their goal to tell everyone COME return any TV in 6 months if you want. But I think they are pretty easy going when it comes to returns.

Cause if you brought in a TV (6 weeks or 6 months down the road) and said, it is not as bright as it was and I see a lot of garbage on the screen in fast action screens, how are they going to test it and prove it is NOT defective? They can't and won't. So they should still accept the return.


My brother called a Costco and acted like he bought his TV there 2 years ago. Said the picture is not nearly as sharp as it used to be and he is noticing some brightness issues and they said "bring it back no problem". So unless you have a history of returns I think you are safe.
post #176 of 3647
Hey guys. just picked up my 50" pio from costco on monday. They were getting 4 in stock in concord and i think all of the bay area costco's are getting replenished with pio's. last batch probably. Just FYI.
Great tv, couldnt be happier compared to my samsung hrp5052 that i returned. menu isnt as user friendly, but thats just nitpicking!
post #177 of 3647
Just saw a pioneer plasma PDP50A%HD at costco. Anyone have any info on this model. Is it comparable to the PDP-5060HD model?
post #178 of 3647
From what I learned this is equal to the 5050 model. The new Pioneer models (5060 equiv) are suppost to show up in Costco around March. (according to Costco employee.
post #179 of 3647
50A5 is called the "consumer" model -- it has the tuner and A/V inputs built right into the set. The 5050HD has a separate media box.

One major between 5050 and 5060 (and I'm assuming between 50A5 and eventual 50A6) is the newer models have improved blacks. There is lots of further discussion on other threads...

Personally, I'm waiting for the 50A6 myself to show up at Costco... Expecting it will probably be priced similarly to the 50A5.

matt
post #180 of 3647
I bought me Philips 7220 on Monday in Burbank, CA.
I have to agree with earlier postings regarding it's pq being a bit wash out compared to the other plasmas. I was a bit surprised and disappointed by what I saw because of the supposed 10,000:1 contrast ratio rating.

I think perhaps it is due to its inherent black/grayish screen vs. others the likes of Panasonics, Maxent and others that are essentially black.

But because of it price and its featrues I bought it anyways.

A quick side note: I got to Costco at ~ 1930 Monday night and I found 9 units in their box beneath the dispaly model. But by the time I got to the check out stand 20 minutes later after some additional shopping. All the boxed units were gone and there were shoppers coming be to ask me if the one I was leaning against (my) while waitng to be checked out, was mine. It was almost a slight riotus scene.

So, despite of Philips' initial slight washed out appearance compared to the other display models. I have to say, it's not stopping shoppers from wanting it. Meaning, its pq is not at all that bad.

At home, my experience with it's perfomance have been very positive. I don't have another plasma model to compare with, and I have only watched at night (have to work, as well all do). But it's pq have been superb. In fact I have I had to turned down the factory setting to contrast and brightness because the color was so intense and vivid to the point of almost been too sharp and bright. There was no inkling of the washed out appearance that I saw while in the store.
So far, I found it's weakest point is it's speakers. As with most TV speakers it does not have enaough crisp sharpness and the deep thundering lows of a true AV 5.1 or 6.1 DTS surround system with subwoofer set up. But then again my Philips is in my bedroom, I don't need such a punchy TV. I have a front projection A/V DTS system in my livingroom for true rumbling theater experince.
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