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post #901 of 1297
On a second thought, those photo's could also be the Macrophones.
post #902 of 1297
I havent removed the foam grills-my speakers are squared off on the corners...I have photos but they are on my iPhone-not quite sure how I can transfer them-I will look through the forums' how to pages to learn how. I must say I was quite impressed with the sound of speakers that I thought looked like total garbage-feeds into the whole "dont judge a book by its cover" phrase.

So would you say that this "Island Sound" was a project that these guys started up and cancelled? Or did I misunderstand?

Thanks for the replies! I will try to upload the pics tonight.
post #903 of 1297
Hey guys, I just thought I would follow up on my posts.

Since I have way too many speakers as it is, I have been collecting other sound gear. I did grab a super mint pair of timepiece speakers. They were only 20 bucks from the original owner! Great computer desktop speaker!

Also I have been picking up some cd players/preamps.

In my den I have a b&k pro-5 preamp(paid $100 for it), with a rcd-8658x(paid $40.00), rotel rb-981(paid 100) those are all running through my original time windows.

The sound is really good. Eric Clapton Unplugged sounds awesome! You can hear his slide running up and down the neck of the guitar between notes! It is very subtle, but cool! On Buddy Guy's album "sweet tea" , track 9 "it's a jungle out there" you can hear him hitting the plastic pick against the strings. That had to be picked up through a mic and not a guitar amp. Pretty cool

For my HT, I have picked up a few other things. I got a b&k avr-307 for$200.00 then ended up grabbing a av-5000 series 2 amp for $200.00 and using the avr as a preamp.

I then ended up getting a deal on a b&k ref-50 series 2 for $400.00. I also snagged a sony bdp-s550 for blue ray with analog out. I also snagged a Mitsubishi WD-73727 TV in a trade for an old router.

So, now I have Mitsu 73" dlp, with directv, the sony bdp and ps3 going into the ref 50, to the av5000, with the cx-17 as a center, tf-v 10.0's as main and 6.0's as rear, with a deftech prosub on the low end.

It is a pretty great sounding system. At least the best I have ever had for HT!!! It has been fun setting up a theater room. I am the only one allowed in, with exception for my wife. She is by invitation only. Hahahha!
post #904 of 1297
Here's a pair on ebay now.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/DCM-ImageMas...item2eb871deef

They are the same shape as the Macrophones.
post #905 of 1297
and my logo is different-this is a test to see if I figured out how to upload a pic it should be of the squared corners-the other speaker has a significant chip in it exposing what another member must have found when he sanded through the veneer. I will take more pics tonight as my speakers do not feature the DCM logo its a sort of a blue swirl looking thing... (how is that for a description)
Thank you for the follow ups Mr. Hauser
post #906 of 1297
photo test
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post #907 of 1297
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Originally Posted by lemaster View Post

Thank you for the follow ups Mr. Hauser

Your welcome, but Mr. Hauser is what they called my father.
post #908 of 1297
So here it is-measurements are 23 3/4" tall by 13" wide by 12 1/2" deep (not including the foam grill)

my apologies in the name mix-up!
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post #909 of 1297
Maybe they meant Mackinaw Island Sound? Belle Isle Sound? LOL!
post #910 of 1297
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Originally Posted by jamie hauser View Post

your welcome, but mr. Hauser is what they called my father.



lol!
post #911 of 1297
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Originally Posted by DCMlover View Post

lol!



The only time I insist on being called Mr. Hauser is when I help out in grading in TKD ranking tests.

I did have a nice talk with Steve today and had a chance to ask him about Island Sound. Basically Island Sound was a brand of DCM that catered to a different market. It only ran for a few years and DCM was having issues with Island Records who though the name could be associated with theirs. It wasn't worth fighting for and was dropped. The technology was the same as DCM.
post #912 of 1297
Thank You!!! Absent this forum I have had 0 luck with obtaining any information regarding this brand!
post #913 of 1297
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Originally Posted by Jamie Hauser View Post

This is one of the assemblies installed.




I have all of the other assemblies done and installed. The speakers are ready for testing. This will probably be the last post on the project for a while. I will be waiting for booth time at a local body shop to finish the tops, bottoms, and fluted sidepieces. The grill cloth "socks" are cut to size and just need to be sewn.





Jamie, how did you get the top and bottom gloss caps off your TW7's? The TW7's are the closes DCM to my TFv10.0's. My 10.0 tops have liquid nails all in the center of the tops and 4 dowels but not like the TF600 Dowels which were Modeez. The bottom caps are screwed with 4 screws with liquid nails in the center. Was the TW7's this way?
post #914 of 1297
The tops have four Modezz clips and the bottom uses four machine thread screws. No Liquid Nails. Look close at the photo's in posts # 838 and # 841.
post #915 of 1297
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Originally Posted by Jamie Hauser View Post

The tops have four Modezz clips and the bottom uses four machine thread screws. No Liquid Nails. Look close at the photo's in posts # 838 and # 841.

Jamie, on the TFv's they don't have the same Modeez as the TF600's and there is glue under them that is what is making the gap so I can see between them which is the same glue as the cabinets show in the inside of them which is that brown glue that I think is liquid nails and I showed Liquid nails the pic's and they are 80% sure it is there product from the 90's with higher VOC but they said they would have too lab test it and it would cost me $1,000 too do that. So i did not go for that test for $1,000. lol The dowels on the TFv are smaller and black in color then the Modeez on the TF600 which where metal. I got some of the TF-600 modeez for the TFv6.0 project from Modeez new.

So I am guessing the gloss caps on the TFv and TW'7 where installed in a different way then. If there was not glue it would be so easy too get the tops off. I hit them with a rag on a wood block with hammer and they did not move one bit so that is when I looked in too it more and seen the glue and stopped at that point too not break them.
post #916 of 1297
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-4-MYLAR-SU...item5647ed2778


Does anyone think they will work for DCM stuff?

Here is a shielded one too for the rear tweeter for DCM if they work. I don't have spec on the Tweeters DCM used so not sure.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-4-MT15-MYL...item5642edc0be
post #917 of 1297
My 10.0's are the same. Liquid nails.
post #918 of 1297
Those shure look like the DCM tweeters.



QUOTE=Jamespblues;21816696]http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-4-MYLAR-SU...item5647ed2778


Does anyone think they will work for DCM stuff?

Here is a shielded one too for the rear tweeter for DCM if they work. I don't have spec on the Tweeters DCM used so not sure.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-4-MT15-MYL...item5642edc0be[/quote]
post #919 of 1297
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Originally Posted by Johnny20 View Post

James,

You are a spaz. I'm disappointed that you compare my center channel speaker to a Bose 901. They're different like night and day. My design is influenced by CX-17 & 27, an Audax center channel DIY project, and a large Paradigm center speaker that has similar dimensions to my creation. The damping was modeled after the Audax project, and the extra stuffing was placed at areas that I tested to provide the best sound. I'm proud of my design, and wanted to share with everyone one possible way to make a great DCM-like speaker. My cabinet dimensions were dictated somewhat by the size of the base of my TV, so obviously there's room to play with the dimensions.

For information about other great DCM speaker projects, view this entire thread. If I'm not mistaken, some very knowledgeable people have mentioned that you might not get the results you expect with a TW or TF for a center speaker. Many people use a CX-17 as a center speaker, and center channel projects based upon this speaker design seem to work well. I'd definitely be interested in seeing other designs too!

By the way, Penny supplied me with the driver parameters that allowed me to properly use the speaker design software. It's a 6KB1448, and it's shown as either 6" or 6.5", depending upon the speaker model. Same size. Same exact speaker. All will fit well into the opening in the SS center speaker, and a CX-17 (or equivalent) also has the proper tweeter mounted on a metal lens. I don't know of a KX that had that ...

Good luck with your project!

Not to really bring this up again but I want too get the right info to people that want too learn and do a DCM project them self's. First thing sorry Jonny20 that you feel at way and I never knocked your project just asked questions. Sorry. Why I was bringing this help again because he said the 6" is the same as the 6.5" mid that is not true! The old DCM 6.5" mid has no Plastic ring on it which the 6" has and it does change how the drivers sits in the cabinet as Jamie founded out in his center/TW7 project. The rubber surround on the 6.5" is smaller in width then the 6" mid,dust cover in center of cone is not the same on the 6.5" compared too the 6". The 6.5" from basket rim to basket rim is 6 3/8 and the 6" mid from rim to rim is 6 5/8 and the 6.5" looks to be a deep cone then the 6". (Maybe that is why it is a 6.5" not sure.) In short they are different in more then one way and it is not just a part number change. (There are more different things with this mids but you get the picture.
post #920 of 1297
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Originally Posted by DCMlover View Post

Those shure look like the DCM tweeters.



QUOTE=Jamespblues;21816696]http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-4-MYLAR-SU...item5647ed2778


Does anyone think they will work for DCM stuff?

Here is a shielded one too for the rear tweeter for DCM if they work. I don't have spec on the Tweeters DCM used so not sure.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-4-MT15-MYL...item5642edc0be

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The only thing different I can see in the pic for the not shielded one is the terminals for the hook up wires are not in the same spot as DCM's tweeter.
post #921 of 1297
I bet Jamie will know.
post #922 of 1297
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Originally Posted by flyng_fool View Post

I bet Jamie will know.

Yes, I think Jamie said the Tweeters where vifa but If it is vifa they stopped making them a long time ago. I hope this where a old vifa design and JAL Audio paid them too have it or some thing like that.
post #923 of 1297
The tweeters shown look very close and could possibly have been manufactured by the same Taiwanese company. But, unless they have the DCM logo on them or you know for sure that they came out of a DCM product (not all of that style tweeter had the logo imprinted on them) they would not be the same. While DCM did not make their own tweeters, they were custom made for them. Steve specified a thinner viscosity ferrofluid and he compensated for that in the dampening circuit in the crossover. So even if you had the same tweeter from the same manufacturer but from their standard line and used it with Steve’s crossover, the dampening effect would be different. Would it still work, possibly, but it won’t work as intended.
post #924 of 1297
The DCM TFv's come apart by removing the bottom gloss black cap, not the top cap! The bottom cap is not glued just 4 screws and that is it. I will take pics later, I am still playing with them right now
post #925 of 1297
Here is a few pictures that James asked me to upload. I guess his iPhone couldn't do it. Should have gotten android!
post #926 of 1297
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Originally Posted by DCMlover View Post

Here is a few pictures that James asked me to upload. I guess his iPhone couldn't do it. Should have gotten android!



lol I have a Samsung GalaxyS II

I think something was up with the AVS forum that day but thanks DCMlover for taking the time out of your day too put the pics on here for me and everyone
post #927 of 1297
Okay I had too resize them but here is one pic more coming.
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post #928 of 1297
DCM Logo is not the same as other DCM models. The TFv line is a logo tag with pins on the back of it to be pushed in the wood and grill cloth. I used hot glue when installing the tag back on.

There is lines drawn on the bottom of the cabinet in black so they did not put the cloth over the screw holes. I clean the gloss tops and removed some marks on them with Novus 1 and 2.

The 10" woofer has no RTV on it like the rear tweeters do, the 10" is seal with the padding headliner.
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post #929 of 1297
Padding was coming off around the lens so I glued it back with 3M 74. The DCM 10" is the same has the KX line 10" woofer but Steve removed some of the white DCM logo off the dust cover, I am guessing so it can't be seen on the outside of the cloth. I have seen 3pairs of 10.0's this way so it is not faded. DCM had a habit of cracking Tweeters I guess they got a little drill happy. lol I have seen a lot of model DCM's with this problem like the TF600's. (Most of the time it is the rear tweeters they crack were the screw goes.)

10" is a D08 DCM part number and mid is a D16 part number.
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post #930 of 1297
Pic of a 12" KX woofer next too a TFv 10" woofer. They are the same thing to the tee, but with removed DCM white logo.

Trans line too front of outside cabinet 7", from inside cabinet 6 1/2. The mid is flush mounted in the cabinet with a 1/2 wood bracing it. I am guessing it is flush for timing the tweeter/mid to the 10" woofer. Bass moves slower then high sounds so by moving the tweeter/mid back the sound would hit your listening sit at the same time. (I am guessing this but Jamie or Steve may have more info on this.)
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