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post #211 of 9360
my 8300HD works fine, has only crashed twice in 2 months, each time during those stupid card games, HDMI works fine, and the single firmware update we've had added eSATA support.

the only complaint I have about the box is that it wastes energy/heat by never shutting down the hard drive. apparently some regions have the ability to have the hd shut off when not in use, but not mine. even though we're both on passport 2.5.

at a total of $2/mo more than analog cable was, it's cheaper than buying a HDTV QAM tuner card that won't get me Discovery HD and the digital channels.
post #212 of 9360
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by HDTV-NUT View Post

Emailing and and complaining does nothing with TWC. They simply sit there and rake in the money and add great programming such as, "Christmas Tunes On Demand", "Last weeks weather On Demand", and "Watch a dog take a sh*t on Demand"..

wow, you are100% correct but still send emails.
LOL
post #213 of 9360
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Originally Posted by dj9 View Post

the only complaint I have about the box is that it wastes energy/heat by never shutting down the hard drive. apparently some regions have the ability to have the hd shut off when not in use, but not mine. even though we're both on passport 2.5.

If you really want to stop the hard drive from running, just tune both tuners to channels that are not buffered, i.e. PPV or music channels, before you turn the unit "off", using the "swap" button to switch between tuners. I'm sure you realize that turning it "off" only shuts down the various outputs.

You can even program a good universal remote to run a macro that will automate all those steps every night when you shut the unit down. However, I suspect you waste more electricity every time you open your refrigerator than the DVR uses all night to continuously run its hard drive.
post #214 of 9360
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"the nfl, on the other hand, has been offered a slot on all our cable systems, but the nfl wants every cable subscriber (nfl fan or not) to receive the service and pay for it."


It looks like we are witnessing the a la carte battle in disguise. Judging from the above message TWC is ready to offer NFL network on an a la carte basis. It is their long held view that the 75 percent of their subscribers should not be subsidizing the viewing habits of the remaining 25 percent (sport fans.) Again, these are cable companies' numbers, not mine (and I happen to belong to the 25 percent club!) NFL, on the other hand, must be insisting that they should be included in the basic package to maximize the advertising revenue (which, I understand, among other things, is a function of number of homes reached.)
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Elephants are mating and we are choking in the dust!
post #215 of 9360
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Originally Posted by AndyHDTV View Post

A&E-HD's official launch is in September
USA's & Sci-Fi's HD programming is on Universal-HD
MTV's HD programming is on MHD
UPN-HD is converting to "MyNetworkTV" and will debut in September
TBS-HD is only available in ATL & only for Braves Games.
History-HD has a 2007 launch date
& MSNBC-HD doesn't exist.


So us TWC customers will get A&E and MyNetworkTV in September?
Also, what is Universal-HD? Does that mean TWC customers wont get MHD, Sci Fi HD, or USA HD?

What new channels should we get by the end of the year???
post #216 of 9360
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Originally Posted by aknbad23 View Post

So us TWC customers will get A&E and MyNetworkTV in September?
Also, what is Universal-HD? Does that mean TWC customers wont get MHD, Sci Fi HD, or USA HD?

What new channels should we get by the end of the year???

Bear in mind that any agreements negotiated by TWC corporate will not necessarily show up on your local TWC schedule. Every TWC outlet is a different, independent entity and is able to formulate a programming lineup based on their own bandwidth limitations as well as what they think their customer base wants. The desires of us HD lovers for new, available channels often takes second (or third, or fourth,...) place to the perceived "need" to, for example, add more bandwidth-hogging analog Spanish-speaking channels. Complaining to someone like Fred Dressler about your local TWC outlet's refusal to add new HD channels that TWC corporate has approved is like complaining to Congress about the pothole in the street in front of your house.
post #217 of 9360
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Bear in mind that any agreements negotiated by TWC corporate will not necessarily show up on your local TWC schedule. Every TWC outlet is a different, independent entity and is able to formulate a programming lineup based on their own bandwidth limitations as well as what they think their customer base wants. The desires of us HD lovers for new, available channels often takes second (or third, or fourth,...) place to the perceived "need" to, for example, add more bandwidth-hogging analog Spanish-speaking channels. Complaining to someone like Fred Dressler about your local TWC outlet's refusal to add new HD channels that TWC corporate has approved is like complaining to Congress about the pothole in the street in front of your house.

I hate to be a nuisance and I understand what you are saying but does anyone know what TWC Corporate is up to? What channels are the company working on getting and whats a wild guess as to what we will have by years end?
post #218 of 9360
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Originally Posted by aknbad23 View Post

So us TWC customers will get A&E and MyNetworkTV in September?
Also, what is Universal-HD? Does that mean TWC customers wont get MHD, Sci Fi HD, or USA HD?

What new channels should we get by the end of the year???

There is no SciFi HD or USA HD, NBC puts all their cable HD properties on Universal HD.

As far as TWC adding new channels, don't count on much. If you really want more HD, look at Dish Network.
post #219 of 9360
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by aknbad23 View Post

I hate to be a nuisance and I understand what you are saying but does anyone know what TWC Corporate is up to? What channels are the company working on getting and whats a wild guess as to what we will have by years end?

The only channel that TWC has a angreement to carry is Universal-HD,which has all of NBC's little stations HD content on their. Ex. Bravo, Sci-Fi, USA & Sleuth.

I suggest you take a look at all of the posts in this thread from begining to end and/or check our the "The Official AVS HDTV Programming Synopsis - Summer 2006" thread, so you know what channels actually exist and what channels are rumored to be down the line.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=164671
post #220 of 9360
Thread Starter 
typed in "90210" in the LA-TWC page and it gave me this Channel lineup.

check out the HD channels in the 900's on Page 1 & 2

I Guess thier Keeping Adelphia/Comcast lineups

http://www.timewarnerla.com/channell...lywood_AUG.pdf
post #221 of 9360
TWC Northeast Ohio's site does not yet have the new lineups...at least 10 minutes before midnight ET.

I would expect when they do show the former Adelphia lineup here, it'll just be the same except for the absence of NFL Network and ESPNU, and the addition of whatever they light up.

At some point, they'll probably move to standardize us with TWC NEO's existing lineup (or maybe even start a new standard lineup).
post #222 of 9360
NFL Network Sues Time Warner To Stay On Systems
Monday, July 31, 2006 02:12 PM - WBEN Newsroom

Buffalo, NY (WBEN) - When the clock strikes midnight, the NFL Network will be off local cable systems. Time Warner will take over the Adelphia systems at that time. The NFL Network now is suing to keep the network on Time Warner.

NFL Network spokesman Seth Polansky says the lawsuit is a last ditch effort, because Time Warner will not even answer calls from the network trying to plead its case.


TW so cares about its customers
post #223 of 9360
If we have any insiders here, please tell us Dallas customers when we can expect HDNet, HDNet Movies and UHD on our system.
post #224 of 9360
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Originally Posted by kjpjr View Post

NFL Network Sues Time Warner To Stay On Systems
Monday, July 31, 2006 02:12 PM - WBEN Newsroom

Buffalo, NY (WBEN) - When the clock strikes midnight, the NFL Network will be off local cable systems. Time Warner will take over the Adelphia systems at that time. The NFL Network now is suing to keep the network on Time Warner.

NFL Network spokesman Seth Polansky says the lawsuit is a last ditch effort, because Time Warner will not even answer calls from the network trying to plead its case.


TW so cares about its customers

hey kjpjr, you left out this quote from the article:

"Time Warner says that the NFL is seeking a 350% price increase, while only adding 8 games to the station's football coverage."

so how much does the NFL care about its customers by jacking prices by 350%?
post #225 of 9360
It depends on what the original price was, doesn't it, scruffy7?

If it was, say 10 cents a sub, going up to 35 cents a sub, that wouldn't seem too onerous to me -- and I don't even watch the NFL.
post #226 of 9360
you can also compare this to the Starz on Demand situation.

TWC does not have SOD. Starz will give them the channel for the huge sum of $0 as long as it's free to Starz subscribers.

TWC wants to put this in it's Premium on Demand tier which is $6.95. End result, no Starz on Demand.

Taking that into consideration, NFL Network could charge what they like and I'd still back them. Because even if the rates the NFL Network were charging were completely reasonable I doubt TWC would carry it free to air anyway. They want it in that sports package and they would rather cut off their nose than have it any other way.
post #227 of 9360
It is a lot more than 8 games, it is every preseason game -- live or tape. It is pre and post game shows. And it also now includes two or three college bowl games. The 350% is a TW number -- I have trouble believing anything they say.

It also is getting nasty check this link

http://www.nflgetreal.com/

This is a TW link

I wish I could have a dish and then TW could do what ever with its remote.
post #228 of 9360
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Originally Posted by fredfa View Post

It depends on what the original price was, doesn't it, scruffy7?

If it was, say 10 cents a sub, going up to 35 cents a sub, that wouldn't seem too onerous to me -- and I don't even watch the NFL.

25 cents x 14.4 million is quite a chunk of change.

my point is that i don't think anyone here is privy to what the actual negotiations are and i don't see NFL caring any more about the fans than TWC does about its customers. it's hard to justify a position on either side with what we know.

all i can say is that the people who think TWC ought to just eat the cost are obviously not TW shareholders.

scruffy out...
post #229 of 9360
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Originally Posted by scruffy7 View Post

25 cents x 14.4 million is quite a chunk of change.

my point is that i don't think anyone here is privy to what the actual negotiations are and i don't see NFL caring any more about the fans than TWC does about its customers. ...

I'd think the NFL do care about the fans. Ad rates go up, presumably, with more viewers.
post #230 of 9360
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Originally Posted by kjpjr View Post

It is a lot more than 8 games, it is every preseason game -- live or tape. It is pre and post game shows. And it also now includes two or three college bowl games. The 350% is a TW number -- I have trouble believing anything they say.

It also is getting nasty check this link

http://www.nflgetreal.com/

This is a TW link

I wish I could have a dish and then TW could do what ever with its remote.

Disregarding meaningless preseason games and endless reruns, the NFL channel offers about 35 to 40 hours of programming over an entire year (8,760 hours). It's a terrible waste of precious cable channel space.
post #231 of 9360
We could make the same reply to any network. Most of what we have is not watched. We get, for example, 40 music channels and listen to 3 at most. The other 37 we don't need. We get who knows how many shopping channels and never watch or buy anything from any of them. We never use the on demand services because we use Netflix. The list goes on. Ala carte is good maybe -- if it would let us get what my wife and I want to watch and not what TW thinks is good for us. What worries me about Ala carte is that TW will still control the master list and I may still not have NFLN or ESPN2HD or something else then Ala carte is not any good. Most people only watch about 20 of the channels that come into their home. We have all the religious channels and Fox news blocked because we don't want any of that in our homes. But TW will not block them at the headend. So we don't really have any choice -- TW can take the heat about NFLN and people leave and get a dish but if they don't want to carry it, they won't and people like me who can't have a dish are stuck.
post #232 of 9360
There's one difference between NFS and all those channels that you don't watch; from what I understand, NFL feels that it deserves more money than other channels.
post #233 of 9360
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Originally Posted by AndyHDTV View Post

typed in "90210" in the LA-TWC page and it gave me this Channel lineup.

check out the HD channels in the 900's on Page 1 & 2

I Guess thier Keeping Adelphia/Comcast lineups

http://www.timewarnerla.com/channell...lywood_AUG.pdf

Big question. Was LA under Adelphia or Comcast and how long did you have ESPN2-HD? Why do you guys get to keep it, now that TWC has taken over? When Comcast added ESPN-2 to their line up back in June, they left it off their DFW system.
post #234 of 9360
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Originally Posted by marque1d View Post

Big question. Was LA under Adelphia or Comcast and how long did you have ESPN2-HD? Why do you guys get to keep it, now that TWC has taken over? When Comcast added ESPN-2 to their line up back in June, they left it off their DFW system.

I don't live in LA, I just check their lineup and that's what it said. LA was controlled by Adelphia, Comcast & TWC until a couple days ago.
post #235 of 9360
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Originally Posted by kjpjr View Post

We have all the religious channels and Fox news blocked because we don't want any of that in our homes.

My hero!
post #236 of 9360
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this was said by Diana Smith, the Director of Marketing for Video Services for Time Warner Cable of South Carolina:

"STARZ HD and MAX HD - as you probably could have guessed by now the carriage is tied to other requirements (non HD requirements - nothing to do with bandwidth) The end result is greater costs to all Digital Premium subs SD and HD - costs we are not willing to pass through to everyone when the number of HD subs subscribing to either STARZ or MAX is exceedingly tiny."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...56#post8153256

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I guess, that's the same reason other TWC markets don't have them yet, still don't understand why Austin & San Antonio have them to begin with.
post #237 of 9360
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Originally Posted by AndyHDTV View Post

this was said by Diana Smith, the Director of Marketing for Video Services for Time Warner Cable of South Carolina:

"STARZ HD and MAX HD - as you probably could have guessed by now the carriage is tied to other requirements (non HD requirements - nothing to do with bandwidth) The end result is greater costs to all Digital Premium subs SD and HD - costs we are not willing to pass through to everyone when the number of HD subs subscribing to either STARZ or MAX is exceedingly tiny."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...56#post8153256

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I guess, that's the same reason other TWC markets don't have them yet, still don't understand why Austin & San Antonio have them to begin with.

dallas has both (twc took over from comcast)

wonder if they'll be gone after 30 days though
post #238 of 9360
Wait, it has nothing to do with bandwidth, but CinemaxHD is going to cost TWC more money to carry? A channel owned by TWCs parent company? Im not buying that.
post #239 of 9360
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Originally Posted by ENDContra View Post

Wait, it has nothing to do with bandwidth, but CinemaxHD is going to cost TWC more money to carry? A channel owned by TWCs parent company? Im not buying that.

Haven't you noticed yet? EVERYTHING costs TWC more money...they just don't want to pass it on to us poor subscribers...
post #240 of 9360
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Originally Posted by kjpjr View Post

It is a lot more than 8 games, it is every preseason game -- live or tape. It is pre and post game shows. And it also now includes two or three college bowl games. The 350% is a TW number -- I have trouble believing anything they say.

It also is getting nasty check this link

http://www.nflgetreal.com/

This is a TW link

I wish I could have a dish and then TW could do what ever with its remote.

As a non-NFL fan, I feel that a sports pack would be a great way to settle this dispute. For the fans that really want the channel, you can still get it, without having to hike up the rates of people who aren't clamoring for this channel (and believe me, there are a lot of those)
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