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post #61 of 9360
Fred Dressler's answer is insulting. He writes: "Espn is withholding this
service from us until we agree to pay them for some things that are
totally unrelated."

Let's see, ESPN loses revenue and Time Warner saves money. It must be ESPN's fault.

Writing to this guy might make you feel good, but it's a waste of time. They are making record profits. They have no reason to offer more service.

If you want ESPN2HD, get Dish or DirecTV (if you can). Otherwise, get over it.

I don't like being so blunt, but you are only making yourself upset over a situation you have no impact on. It's a hard lesson to learn, but it is one I learned a while ago. I never believed for a second that I would have ESPN2HD in time for the World Cup.
post #62 of 9360
Hi guys

I just wanted to confirm that I did receive an email from Mr. Dressler regarding ESPN2 HD. I wish I was making it up as someone suggested, but unfortunately I did receive it...

I think it is a good idea to watch the games in another channel as a protest! If you don't mind Spanish, Univision is showing the games in NYC.
post #63 of 9360
Thread Starter 
from a member in my local TWC NYC thread
ecwlukeny:

Amusing reply..dont know who to believe..

Mr Dressler,

Im a loyal TWCNYC customer, paying $194.00 a month for all the services
Time Warner provides. Premium channels, internet, digital phone etc.
Im somewhat disapointed that you guys do not offer more HD channels, but
that is another story...

Is there any hope, that we will at least have ESPN2HD in time for World
Cup?!. This is an event that only happens every 4 years...Im sure it is
not as simple as pulling the switch and the channels shows up,
negotiations take time and i understand that, but you must agree ESPN2HD
has been on air for a significant period of time where some kind of
deal, even temporary one could of been reached, just for the showing of
World Cup...I just do not understand why in the greatest market in the
US, Time Warner always screws us.. Im hopefull that i will hear from you
regarding this issue.

Respectfully,


I'm glad you are a "loyal" customer and sad that you feel that "time
warner always screws us." it's sad, because we often are trying to do
the right thing for our customers and get blamed, as in this case, for
the greed and abuse of others (like disney/espn).

We are entitled to the espn2hd feed now and want to give it to you at no
additional cost. Short of suing disney/espn, which would take years, we
are trying to negotiate to get it on. Disney is demanding lots of
additional things that will cost you even more money (that's why you
think time warner is screwing you) when all we want is for espn to
delivery what they are already obligated to do.

Still, we are hopeful to add espn2hd this year, regretfully that is
likely to be after the world cup.
post #64 of 9360
I will watch the best picture availible, I dont care who is getting screwed.

If im paying for it, then I will watch it.

There needs to be more HD channels period!
post #65 of 9360
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyHDTV View Post


Respectfully,


I'm glad you are a "loyal" customer and sad that you feel that "time
warner always screws us." it's sad, because we often are trying to do
the right thing for our customers and get blamed, as in this case, for
the greed and abuse of others (like disney/espn).

We are entitled to the espn2hd feed now and want to give it to you at no
additional cost. Short of suing disney/espn, which would take years, we
are trying to negotiate to get it on. Disney is demanding lots of
additional things that will cost you even more money (that's why you
think time warner is screwing you) when all we want is for espn to
delivery what they are already obligated to do.

Still, we are hopeful to add espn2hd this year, regretfully that is
likely to be after the world cup.

I find this explanation to be absurd.

If TW already receives espn2 -- there should not be anything to discuss with Disney regarding the HD feed.

If I'm wrong and Disney is making unjustifiable demands with TW then TW should bring this to the attention of their customers and share holders. Let the public voice their discontent with this greedy mouse.
I don't buy it.

Spend a dime, TW, take out an ad and let the world know.
Fat chance.
post #66 of 9360
As you can see, Mr. Dressler's last response is not so inconsistent with what he told me. He put the blame on Disney, and said that ESPN2 HD is not going to be available for the world cup. Too bad...

I agree that the explanation does not seem to make much sense. Why can't twc allow us (the costumers) to decide whether we want to pay for the extra channel or not?
post #67 of 9360
What would TW ever do if the customer could get what they wanted! I pay $7 a month now for ESPN HD plus some other channels we never watch unless there is a HD hockey or baseball game on them so what would be a few more bucks to get 2HD. TW is not going to let anyone push them around -- they will show us! There is no way I can put a dish up at our condo so I am stuck with TW and what they want us to have. Their last additon was a religious channel in spanish and a full time fishing channel! BTW I have done all the research about the dish and condo's, we do not have an exclusive use area for the dish, cannot put one up, cannot be done.
post #68 of 9360
I searched but was not able to find the information. Does anyone know what games are going to be on ESPN2 HD? Thanks.
post #69 of 9360
These are the channels that I get here in FL, Bright House Cable

High Definition Channels

1020 WESH (NBC) HD
1021 WESH 2 Weather Plus DT (all weather, not in HD)
1060 WKMG (CBS) HD
1061 WKMG-DT DT (all weather, not in HD and the sound is way to loud)
1090 WFTV (ABC) HD
1091 WFTV-DT DT ( all weather, not in HD)
1123 HD Movies on Demand IC
1124 WMFE(PBS)-HD DT (waste of a channel, not in HD)
1125 WMFE-ED DT (waste of a channel, not in HD)
1126 WMFE-CFAN DT (waste of a channel, not in HD)
1127 WMFE-Encore DT (this channel is not currently on as Encore)
1135 WOFL (FOX) HD
1150-53 WCEU (PBS)-DT DT (waste of a channel, not in HD)
1165 WRBW (UPN) HD (maybe 10% are in HD)
1180 WKCF (WB) HD
1243 HBO HD HDP
1259 Showtime HD HDP
1300 INHD HDK
1301 INHD2 HDK
1302 HDNet HDK
1303 HDNet Movies HDK
1304 Universal HD HDK
1311 TNT HD HD
1329 ESPN HD HDK
1341 Discovery HD Theater HD
post #70 of 9360
I may be in the minority here, but I agree in principle with what TWC is trying to do. ESPN is the one screwing us, not TWC. Why are we being charged extra for them converting to HD which they have to anyway? TWC is not allowed to carry the HD feeds (including ESPN2) without extra cost. What trend does this set? As each channel converts to HD, then we will get charged for each channel that gets added? TW is trying to hold the line. They tried to hold out on ESPN but guys, including me, wanted it. But if your cable bill gets to $200/month for all the HD add ons, that won't work will it. Only a la carte will solve that, and the chances of that are remote.
post #71 of 9360
Quote:
Originally Posted by ca1avera View Post

I searched but was not able to find the information. Does anyone know what games are going to be on ESPN2 HD? Thanks.

Googling World Cup US TV Schedule brought me here:

http://www.soccertv.com/wc-us.cfm

According to the following schedule, there are 29 games on ESPN2, all in HD:

Group Phase:
Match # Date Kickoff Time (Eastern) Group Match English Spanish
1 Fr Jun 9 12noon A Germany vs Costa Rica ESPN2 Univision
2 Fr Jun 9 3pm A Poland vs Ecuador ESPN2 Univision
3 Sa Jun 10 9am B England vs Paraguay ABC Univision
4 Sa Jun 10 12noon B Trinidad vs Sweden ABC Univision
5 Sa Jun 10 3pm C Argentina vs Ivory Coast ESPN2 Univision
6 Su Jun 11 9am C Serbia vs Netherlands ESPN2 Univision
7 Su Jun 11 12noon D Mexico vs Iran ABC Univision
8 Su Jun 11 3pm D Angola vs Portugal ESPN2 Univision
9 Mo Jun 12 9am F Australia vs Japan ESPN2 Univision
10 Mo Jun 12 12noon E United States vs Czech Republic ESPN2 Univision
11 Mo Jun 12 3pm E Italy vs Ghana ESPN2 Univision
12 Tu Jun 13 9am G Republic of Korea vs Togo ESPN2 Univision
13 Tu Jun 13 12noon G France vs Switzerland ESPN2 Univision
14 Tu Jun 13 3pm F Brazil vs Croatia ESPN2 Univision
15 We Jun 14 9am H Spain vs Ukraine ESPN2 Univision
16 We Jun 14 12noon H Tunisia vs Saudi Arabia ESPN2 Univision
17 We Jun 14 3pm A Germany vs Poland ESPN2 Univision
18 Th Jun 15 9am A Ecuador vs Costa Rica ESPN2 Univision
19 Th Jun 15 12noon B England vs Trinidad ESPN2 Univision
20 Th Jun 15 3pm B Sweden vs Paraguay ESPN Univision
21 Fr Jun 16 9am C Argentina vs Serbia ESPN2 Univision
22 Fr Jun 16 12noon C Netherlands vs Ivory Coast ESPN2 Univision
23 Fr Jun 16 3pm D Mexico vs Angola ESPN Univision
24 Sa Jun 17 9am D Portugal vs Iran ESPN2 Univision
25 Sa Jun 17 12noon E Czech Republic vs Ghana ABC Univision
26 Sa Jun 17 3pm E Italy vs United States ABC Univision
27 Su Jun 18 9am F Japan vs Croatia ABC Univision
28 Su Jun 18 12noon F Brazil vs Australia ABC Univision
29 Su Jun 18 3pm G France vs Republic of Korea ABC Univision
30 Mo Jun 19 9am G Togo vs Switzerland ESPN2 Univision
31 Mo Jun 19 12noon H Saudi Arabia vs Ukraine ESPN2 Univision
32 Mo Jun 19 3pm H Spain vs Tunisia ESPN2 Univision
33 Tu Jun 20 10am A Ecuador vs Germany ESPN Univision
34 Tu Jun 20 10am A Costa Rica vs Poland ESPN2 TeleFutura
35 Tu Jun 20 3pm B Sweden vs England ESPN Univision
36 Tu Jun 20 3pm B Paraguay vs Trinidad ESPN2 TeleFutura
37 We Jun 21 10am D Portugal vs Mexico ESPN Univision
38 We Jun 21 10am D Iran vs Angola ESPN2 TeleFutura
39 We Jun 21 3pm C Netherlands vs Argentina ESPN Univision
40 We Jun 21 3pm C Ivory Coast vs Serbia ESPN2 TeleFutura
41 Th Jun 22 10am E Ghana vs United States ESPN Univision
42 Th Jun 22 10am E Czech Republic vs Italy ESPN2 TeleFutura
43 Th Jun 22 3pm F Japan vs Brazil ESPN Univision
44 Th Jun 22 3pm F Croatia vs Australia ESPN2 TeleFutura
45 Fr Jun 23 10am H Saudi Arabia vs Spain ESPN Univision
46 Fr Jun 23 10am H Ukraine vs Tunisia ESPN2 TeleFutura
47 Fr Jun 23 3pm G Togo vs France ESPN Univision
48 Fr Jun 23 3pm G Switzerland vs Republic of Korea ESPN2 TeleFutura
Round of 16:
Match # Date Kickoff Time (Eastern) Match English Spanish
49 Sa Jun 24 11am A1 vs B2 ABC Univision
50 Sa Jun 24 3pm C1 vs D2 ESPN Univision
51 Su Jun 25 11am B1 vs A2 ABC Univision
52 Su Jun 25 3pm D1 vs C2 ESPN Univision
53 Mo Jun 26 11am E1 vs F2 ESPN Univision
54 Mo Jun 26 3pm G1 vs H2 ESPN Univision
55 Tu Jun 27 11am F1 vs E2 ESPN Univision
56 Tu Jun 27 3pm H1 vs G2 ESPN Univision
Quarterfinals:
Match # Date Kickoff Time (Eastern) Match English Spanish
57 Fr Jun 30 11am 49 vs 50 ESPN Univision
58 Fr Jun 30 3pm 53 vs 54 ESPN2 Univision
59 Sa Jul 1 11am 51 vs 52 ABC Univision
60 Sa Jul 1 3pm 55 vs 56 ESPN Univision
Semifinals, 3rd Place, and Final:
Match # Date Kickoff Time (Eastern) Match English Spanish
61 Tu Jul 4 3pm Semifinal 1: 57 vs 58 ESPN Univision
62 We Jul 5 3pm Semifinal 2: 59 vs 60 ESPN Univision
63 Sa Jul 8 3pm 3rd Place ESPN Univision
64 Su Jul 9 2pm Final ABC Univision
post #72 of 9360
Why would ESPN try to screw the people when they already have ESPN in HD.

I would like to think they have enough HD cameras to broadcast in HD.

I wonder if its just a Time Warner thing ?
post #73 of 9360
Is ESPN perhaps trying to get TWC to pay an HD surcharge for all subscribers, HD or not??

That is what the cable companies which own InHD have been doing to DirecTV and Dish -- making them pay for all "digital" subs -- which in the case of DBS is everyone.

ESPN and Disney of course are famous for their hardline insistence that everyone must get ESPN (and ESPN2) as "basic" channels. Which sounds great, except that it means everyone must then pay the $2.60+ for ESPN and $2.00 or so for ESPN2 whether they watch the channels or not. (Or at least the cable and satellite companies have to pay for every sub.)

And at least two-thirds of the nation never watches either channel.
post #74 of 9360
10 Mo Jun 12 12noon E United States vs Czech Republic ESPN2 Univision
11 Mo Jun 12 3pm E Italy vs Ghana ESPN2 Univision
13 Tu Jun 13 12noon G France vs Switzerland ESPN2 Univision
14 Tu Jun 13 3pm F Brazil vs Croatia ESPN2 Univision
15 We Jun 14 9am H Spain vs Ukraine ESPN2 Univision
17 We Jun 14 3pm A Germany vs Poland ESPN2 Univision
42 Th Jun 22 10am E Czech Republic vs Italy ESPN2 TeleFutura
58 Fr Jun 30 3pm 53 vs 54 ESPN2 Univision

Eight games that I really wanted to see in HD....oh well. Thanks for the information.
post #75 of 9360
Thread Starter 
I believe it is time to go another route.

George.Bodenheimer@ESPN.com
VP of Programming at ESPN
post #76 of 9360
Let's parse Mr. Dressler's response:

we often are trying to do the right thing for our customers

Often? Not always? So, he admits that at times, TWC is NOT doing the right thing for their customers.

get blamed, as in this case, for the greed and abuse of others (like disney/espn).

I send my check to TWC. If you take the money, you have to take the blame when customers are not happy.

We are entitled to the espn2hd feed now

How can he say this? If you are entitled, then put it on. Otherwise, shut up.

Disney is demanding lots of additional things that will cost you even more money

Disney never asked me for a penny. All I know is my cable bill goes up and up. With the record profits TWC is reporting, this guy has some serious nerve to blame it on Disney.

likely to be after the world cup.

Likely? Why can't he ever answer a question honestly? How about: ESPN2HD will not be on in time for the World Cup. I'm sorry that I led you to believe that it would be. I made a mistake and I take responsibility for it. Clearly, Time Warner Cable failed its customers in not providing ESPN2HD in time for the World Cup. We realize that a lot of people were looking forward to this.

This guy is a typical salesman. I deal with them all the time. Always with their hands out, never a clear honest answer and always ready to blame someone else.
post #77 of 9360
Thread Starter 
u should send that to him, it makes a lot of sense.
post #78 of 9360
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyHDTV View Post

I believe it is time to go another route.

George.Bodenheimer@ESPN.com
VP of Programming at ESPN


How many threads did you manage to spam this message in?

10?
15?
20?
50?
100?

What makes you any better than someone trying to send me spam email?
post #79 of 9360
Quote:
Originally Posted by ready71 View Post

Let's parse Mr. Dressler's response:

we often are trying to do the right thing for our customers

Often? Not always? So, he admits that at times, TWC is NOT doing the right thing for their customers.

get blamed, as in this case, for the greed and abuse of others (like disney/espn).

I send my check to TWC. If you take the money, you have to take the blame when customers are not happy.

We are entitled to the espn2hd feed now

How can he say this? If you are entitled, then put it on. Otherwise, shut up.

Disney is demanding lots of additional things that will cost you even more money

Disney never asked me for a penny. All I know is my cable bill goes up and up. With the record profits TWC is reporting, this guy has some serious nerve to blame it on Disney.

likely to be after the world cup.

Likely? Why can't he ever answer a question honestly? How about: ESPN2HD will not be on in time for the World Cup. I'm sorry that I led you to believe that it would be. I made a mistake and I take responsibility for it. Clearly, Time Warner Cable failed its customers in not providing ESPN2HD in time for the World Cup. We realize that a lot of people were looking forward to this.

This guy is a typical salesman. I deal with them all the time. Always with their hands out, never a clear honest answer and always ready to blame someone else.

Rarely do you run into a person with as little insight as you apparently possess.
post #80 of 9360
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stan54 View Post

Rarely do you run into a person with as little insight as you apparently possess.


What a profound post.
Why not share some of your insights with the rest of us.
post #81 of 9360
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave1216 View Post

.. but I agree in principle with what TWC is trying to do. ESPN is the one screwing us, not TWC. Why are we being charged extra for them converting to HD which they have to anyway? TWC is not allowed to carry the HD feeds (including ESPN2) without extra cost. What trend does this set? As each channel converts to HD, then we will get charged for each channel that gets added? TW is trying to hold the line. They tried to hold out on ESPN but guys, including me, wanted it. But if your cable bill gets to $200/month for all the HD add ons, that won't work will it. Only a la carte will solve that, and the chances of that are remote.

Is this really true? Or, are these insinuations based solely on e mails spun from a biased source? If there is corroborating verification, please post it.

I would think that if a network is trying to charge extra for the HD feedthis would be big news.
post #82 of 9360
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDTVFanAtic View Post

How many threads did you manage to spam this message in?

10?
15?
20?
50?
100?

What makes you any better than someone trying to send me spam email?

excuse me for trying to give people information, not spam.
post #83 of 9360
Quote:
Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

Is this really true? Or, are these insinuations based solely on e mails spun from a biased source? If there is corroborating verification, please post it.

I would think that if a network is trying to charge extra for the HD feedthis would be big news.

Not sure it's about charging extra for the HD feed -- oftentimes they'll tie negotiations about other channels that they own (non-ESPN related -- Disney, Toon Disney, ABC Family, others) into the negotiations for something like ESPN2-HD -- last time (5+ years ago), I recall the snag in their negotiations being about the fact that Disney wanted Disney Channel to be on the "standard tier" available to all customers, while TWC wanted it to remain a premium channel (which it was at the time). Guess who won out?

Often, the negotiations have to do with how much the provider (Disney) wants from TWC from other (crappy) channels that nobody watches, or it will have to do with Disney trying to strongarm TWC into carrying some channel that it doesn't want....
post #84 of 9360
Quote:
Originally Posted by scott_bernstein View Post

last time (5+ years ago), I recall the snag in their negotiations being about the fact that Disney wanted Disney Channel to be on the "standard tier" available to all customers, while TWC wanted it to remain a premium channel (which it was at the time)....

I remember that dispute. It was covered daily ad nauseam in the local news with both sides spinning their versions for public support.

I'm curious as to why, if this current info were true, TW is not soliciting public pressure on Disney as it did back then, or, why isn't Disney putting their story out there too.

I realize that these negotiations are behind closed doors and press releases would affect the big picture.but we already have these e mails from TW (Dressler) out thereso the cat is already out of the bag.
post #85 of 9360
Hi Andy

I agree with you, let's try to email ESPN to find out more info on what is going on. Not that I think this will change anything, but it seems to be the only thing we can do at this point. Why do some people think this is spam?
post #86 of 9360
Quote:
Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

I remember that dispute. It was covered daily ad nauseam in the local news with both sides spinning their versions for public support.

I'm curious as to why, if this current info were true, TW is not soliciting public pressure on Disney as it did back then, or, why isn't Disney putting their story out there too.

I realize that these negotiations are behind closed doors and press releases would affect the big picture.but we already have these e mails from TW (Dressler) out thereso the cat is already out of the bag.

I'm sure this is not making the public radar because the percentage of people who are HDTV-knowledgeable, are aware of ESPN2-HD, and also care about the World Cup is very small. (Compared to the number of people who watch Disney Channel or WABC). So we're not making enough waves.

Maybe someone on this board who cares should contact the newsroom at the Daily News or NY Post to tip them off to the story? Seems like exactly the type of thing they'd love to cover (especially The Post, being owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp which owns Fox, which has their own history of contentious negotiations with TWC -- recall when they had to sue TWC to get them to carry Fox News?).


Just another avenue to attack this front on, for those who are motiviated....

Scott
post #87 of 9360
Quote:
Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

I'm curious as to why, if this current info were true, TW is not soliciting public pressure on Disney as it did back then, or, why isn't Disney putting their story out there too.

When was the last time a MSO won out against a content provider? I certainly do not remember one. My guess is that any kind of publicity tends to work against MSOs since it gives notice to the diehards to mobilize while the 2/3+ of people who don't care, well, don't do anything.

A la carte is the ultimate answer, and I hope that our chances of getting it are much better than "remote". I will guess that if we got ALC, it would probably blow-up ESPN's and Disney's business models with all of the guaranteed rights fees they have agreed to for the next 5+ years to pro sports leagues. I, for one, won't pay more than $1/mo. for ESPN (SporsCenter every now and then is about it). That means that the diehards will really have to think about cranking out $20+/mo ($15 in pass-through fees, plus a profit margin) for ESPN alone.

Here in Houston, TWC has put ESPN-HD in a tier with UHD, HDN and HDNM. If they add E2-HD, then I'd love for that to be its own tier, and lower my price for what I actually watch. But that won't happen.

Later,
Bill
post #88 of 9360
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ursa View Post

A la carte is the ultimate answer, and I hope that our chances of getting it are much better than "remote". I will guess that if we got ALC, it would probably blow-up ESPN's and Disney's business models with all of the guaranteed rights fees they have agreed to for the next 5+ years to pro sports leagues. I, for one, won't pay more than $1/mo. for ESPN (SporsCenter every now and then is about it). That means that the diehards will really have to think about cranking out $20+/mo ($15 in pass-through fees, plus a profit margin) for ESPN alone.

Agreed -- I am not a sports fan, and have read that sports channels like ESPN charge the MSOs more than double what other non-sports networks charge.

To a non-sports viewer, it seems to me that my money is being wasted. I could probably narrow down my channel choices to under 20, and most of them would be ones that have low fees.....
post #89 of 9360
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyHDTV View Post

from a member in my local TWC NYC thread
ecwlukeny:

Amusing reply..dont know who to believe..

...

I'm glad you are a "loyal" customer and sad that you feel that "time
warner always screws us." it's sad, because we often are trying to do
the right thing for our customers and get blamed, as in this case, for
the greed and abuse of others (like disney/espn).

We are entitled to the espn2hd feed now and want to give it to you at no
additional cost
. Short of suing disney/espn, which would take years, we
are trying to negotiate to get it on
. Disney is demanding lots of
additional things that will cost you even more money (that's why you
think time warner is screwing you) when all we want is for espn to
delivery what they are already obligated to do
.

Still, we are hopeful to add espn2hd this year, regretfully that is
likely to be after the world cup.

It's hard to believe this e-mail is authentic. How is TWC "entitled" to ESPN2HD's feed, yet it still has to "negotiate to get it on"? Contradiction #1. Again, how is ESPN obligated to deliver ESPN2HD, but they get to bargain and demand "lots of additional things"? Contradiction #2. Maybe it's just poor wording from Mr. Dressler and what he really wants to say is that TWC has the option to get ESPN2HD now if they meet certain contractual conditions (like adding ESPNU to the digital tier -- oh, goodness what a chore TWC!). That or he really is trying to confuse us.

BTW, another list of ESPN2's World Cup games (there will other games repeated on ESPN2 in addition to these):
http://www.worldcup2006ontv.com/tv-station/ESPN2
post #90 of 9360
Quote:
Originally Posted by ReplayJanitor View Post

It's hard to believe this e-mail is authentic. How is TWC "entitled" to ESPN2HD's feed, yet it still has to "negotiate to get it on"? Contradiction #1. Again, how is ESPN obligated to deliver ESPN2HD, but they get to bargain and demand "lots of additional things"? Contradiction #2. Maybe it's just poor wording from Mr. Dressler and what he really wants to say is that TWC has the option to get ESPN2HD now if they meet certain contractual conditions (like adding ESPNU to the digital tier -- oh, goodness what a chore TWC!). That or he really is trying to confuse us.

BTW, another list of ESPN2's World Cup games (there will other games repeated on ESPN2 in addition to these):
http://www.worldcup2006ontv.com/tv-station/ESPN2

Actually, I have corresponded with this particular contact myself, and it does sound like his writing.

My read on the email is that the TWC exec believes that they are "entitled" to the feed, but, apparently, Disney thinks otherwise -- probably pending some other contract re-negotiation point that Disney is holding out for. That is the contridiction.
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