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post #121 of 5782
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Originally Posted by BruZZi View Post

Sorry, I don't know.

It was taken from a Japanese Press Release. Maybe It's only sold overseas ?1?

It does look great.


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Shucks, that is a nice stand, albeit a little too low for my taste.
post #122 of 5782
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Originally Posted by BruZZi View Post

Sorry, I don't know.

It was taken from a Japanese Press Release. Maybe It's only sold overseas ?1?

It does look great.


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That stand appears to be a Salamander SL-20 with optional doors and drawers.
post #123 of 5782
please advise, when do we actually think the 600u's will be available for purchase.


The 60u's probably within the next two weeks, what about the 600u's?
post #124 of 5782
end of May or even June would probably be a more realistic target date for the 600's, knowing Panasonics past roll out date history.

While the 60's are starting to appear sporadically, Saturation at retail level will not be till mid to late April.
post #125 of 5782
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Glad to help.

There's more topics coming soon.

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I have to second that thank you, Bruzzi. Thanks for taking the time and effort to place those wonderful pictures and such on your sight. Excellent work!
post #126 of 5782
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Originally Posted by GoodOmens View Post

I am almost certain that a hdmi port can take a unencrytped signal. Its up to the device sending the signal (and ultimitaly the source like a dvd or the channel) to decide if it will use the HDCP bit or not ... if its enabled you need a HDCP capable input to recieve it.. if not then your ok.

I think the trouble people get is when going from a HDCP capable output (Like a HDMI port) to a non HDCP capable input (Like a standard DVD input). The device wants to send a encrypted signal and the recieving device can't decrypt it.

Anyways DVI->HDMI from your computer should work if you have your tv on while booting your computer.

I can test this for you guys tomorrow when my tv (60U) and dvd player arive as the player has a DVI->hdmi cable with it.

Could you? Please? Pretty please? I have DVI on my graphics card and would love to be able to hook my PC up to the 60u and save some money. I would definately have my TV on before booting the PC.
post #127 of 5782
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Originally Posted by BruZZi View Post

Nope.

That was the Prototype of 50" 1080p Display (pic below).
The 60/600 Models will still have Silver/Black frame.





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Hey BruZZi or anyone else. Does anyone have a email address for these folks at Panasonic that seem to think we like those silver bezels.
That black Panny prototype looks so hot. What is rong with Panasonic, have they ever heard of test marketing or reading these and other forums to see how much more the black look is liked (far more than the crapy cheap silver look).
Why cant they offer a choice of black or silver ?
So does anyone have a Panasonic email address that goes to someone at Panasonic of some importance.
I think it would be a great idea for eveyone at AVS to flood Panasonic with request's for an all black plasma,,,,, perhaps it would wake them up to what the consumers want.
Email address ???????

Davyo
post #128 of 5782
I would guess the "ONYX" series holds rights to the All Black as the upscale Panasonic Panel by virtue of it's name. This is and has been a distinguishing feature of the Onyx line. I'm in agreement with the look of black but that 65" is pretty damn nice even in silver - but upscale goods generally must have a bit of uniqueness to it and this is the ONYX trademark of sorts that tangibly sets it apart in addition to whatever the Onynx may offer in PQ difference on the screen.
post #129 of 5782
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Originally Posted by westa6969 View Post

I would guess the "ONYX" series holds rights to the All Black as the upscale Panasonic Panel by virtue of it's name. This is and has been a distinguishing feature of the Onyx line. I'm in agreement with the look but upscale goods generally must have a bit of uniqueness to it and this is the ONYX trademark of sorts that tangibly sets it apart in addition to whatever the Onynx may offer in PQ difference on the screen.


I saw no mention of that prototype being an "ONYX".

Im guessin when I buy the new 58" or 65" Im guna have to get out my paint brush again and paint yet another plasma bezel black.

Davyo
post #130 of 5782
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Originally Posted by davyo View Post

Hey BruZZi or anyone else. Does anyone have a email address for these folks at Panasonic that seem to think we like those silver bezels.
That black Panny prototype looks so hot. What is rong with Panasonic, have they ever heard of test marketing or reading these and other forums to see how much more the black look is liked (far more than the crapy cheap silver look).
Why cant they offer a choice of black or silver ?
So does anyone have a Panasonic email address that goes to someone at Panasonic of some importance.
I think it would be a great idea for eveyone at AVS to flood Panasonic with request's for an all black plasma,,,,, perhaps it would wake them up to what the consumers want.
Email address ???????

Davyo

You might try directing your comments to another AVS Forum participant: "caesar1." I had a digital audio out problem with my 50PX50Us optical interface and CableCARD for almost one year which wasn't resolved until "caesar1" managed to get in touch with the "right" people at Panasonic. Maybe he could help you communicate your opinions to Panasonic too.
post #131 of 5782
I just saw this article which talks about the new features of the px600 and also states a release date of mid April in Japan. It also says that the 58" plasma will be released 2 weeks later...again in Japan. I'm not sure how that translates into a release date for the US but it's the first release date I've seen so far on those models.

The article was released by JCN Newswire, please add "net" where you see "xxx" in this address: japancorp.xxx/Article.Asp?Art_ID=12054
post #132 of 5782
Nice article. If this unit is the same one bound for the US it will be nice as the article indicates it's a dual tuner (digital) unit.
post #133 of 5782
"The article was released by JCN Newswire, please add "net" where you see "xxx" in this address: japancorp.xxx/Article.Asp?Art_ID=12054"
Thanks Robert.

Looks like the 9th generation HD's now have ED level blacks, along with other improvements. When they add 1080p in a 50" or 58" model for +- 3k (08,09?), I'm buying.
post #134 of 5782
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Originally Posted by akpokey View Post


Looks like the 9th generation HD's now have ED level blacks, along with other improvements. When they add 1080p in a 50" or 58" model for +- 3k (08,09?), I'm buying.


The Panasonic HD models have always had the same black levels as the ED models. What they didn't have, until recently, was the peak brightness of the ED panels. It's easier making a panel brighter with larger/fewer pixels, as in the ED, so the ED panels had a larger contrast ratio between their black level and their greater brightness.

One of the hurdles to overcome in making 1080p plasmas was not only getting the pixels that small, but in maintaining an acceptable level of brightness.
post #135 of 5782
It is now official the 58" in coming! Also, the new panels will have thinner glass (1.8mm vs 2.8mm), weigh 18% less and have 16-bit processing.

The Black level has been improved as well.

"The VIERA HDTVs incorporate the new PEAKS (Picture Enhancement Accelerator with Kinetic System) Panel, new Deep Black Filter and upgraded Real Black Drive System. The combination has achieved blacker blacks and a stunning 4,000:1 contrast (10,000:1 contrast at maximum) in dark surroundings."


Panasonic PX600
post #136 of 5782
Arghhhh, that probably means mid-May here in the US.


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Originally Posted by Robert Levy View Post

I just saw this article which talks about the new features of the px600 and also states a release date of mid April in Japan. It also says that the 58" plasma will be released 2 weeks later...again in Japan. I'm not sure how that translates into a release date for the US but it's the first release date I've seen so far on those models.

The article was released by JCN Newswire, please add "net" where you see "xxx" in this address: japancorp.xxx/Article.Asp?Art_ID=12054
post #137 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Bushman4 View Post

end of May or even June would probably be a more realistic target date for the 600's, knowing Panasonics past roll out date history.

While the 60's are starting to appear sporadically, Saturation at retail level will not be till mid to late April.

I have seen 6/15/06 for the 600's on various websites.
post #138 of 5782
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Originally Posted by hoodlum View Post

It is now official the 58" in coming! Also, the new panels will have thinner glass (1.8mm vs 2.8mm), weigh 18% less and have 16-bit processing.

The Black level has been improved as well.

"The VIERA HDTVs incorporate the new PEAKS (Picture Enhancement Accelerator with Kinetic System) Panel, new Deep Black Filter and upgraded Real Black Drive System. The combination has achieved blacker blacks and a stunning 4,000:1 contrast (10,000:1 contrast at maximum) in dark surroundings."


Panasonic PX600


Any idea when the 58" will be available in the U.S?
post #139 of 5782
[quote=R Harkness]The Panasonic HD models have always had the same black levels as the ED models. What they didn't have, until recently, was the peak brightness of the ED panels. It's easier making a panel brighter with larger/fewer pixels, as in the ED, so the ED panels had a larger contrast ratio between their black level and their greater brightness.

Hey Rich,

You have much more experience with the panels, but to my eye and maybe it's the totality of the contrast, the ED blacks are deeper, darker than the Panny HD panels I've viewed side to side at retail and when comparing my ED vs. my friend's HD.

Alan
post #140 of 5782
GoodOmen,

Any word on if you can go from your computer DVI to the plasmas HDMI input? im pretty sure you can and a lot of people are saying you can. someone i forget who said if the source needs HDCP then the tv needs HDCP so its the dvd player that commands HDCP but you can still feed a signal from a computer.

on another note, ATI is coming out with some video cards with HDMI and HDCP built right in for people like us. makes me want to buy an hdmi cable by itself and then buying an HDMI/DVI adapter to future proof

PLEASE let us know if you can go computer DVI to plasma HDMI. this is a big thing for me.
post #141 of 5782
Panasonic rolled out no fewer than five new Viera displays in Japan today, including four plasma models and one LCD. All displays support 1080p and HDMI, and run in size from 32 inches for the LCD to a top plasma model at 58 inches. Panasonic claims that new technology has improved brightness of the plasma models by 20%, and that the 4000:1 real contrast ratio is comparable to a 10,000:1 visible ratio. Most models will be available in Japan next month, with the 58-incher available in May. Pricing is set at ¥300,000 (about $2,500) on the low end, up to ¥780,000 (about $6,600) for the top model. The full model list includes the 32-inch TH-32LX600 LCD, 37-inch TH-37PX600 plasma, 42-inch TH-42PX600 plasma, 50-inch TH-50PX600 plasma, and 58-inch TH-58PX600 plasma.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/08/p...asma-lcd-line/
post #142 of 5782
If it's any consolation, last year's press release for the PX500 models was issued on April 6, 2005, so we're a month ahead of that schedule, it seems!

http://panasonic.co.jp/corp/news/off...n050406-9.html

So, if anyone recalls the relative release dates of the 50s & 500s in the U.S., perhaps we could determine the release, in the U.S., of the 600s? A lot of thinking this early in the morning, I realize!
post #143 of 5782
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Originally Posted by RoubaixPro View Post

Panasonic rolled out no fewer than five new Viera displays in Japan today, including four plasma models and one LCD. All displays support 1080p and HDMI, and run in size from 32 inches for the LCD to a top plasma model at 58 inches. Panasonic claims that new technology has improved brightness of the plasma models by 20%, and that the 4000:1 real contrast ratio is comparable to a 10,000:1 visible ratio. Most models will be available in Japan next month, with the 58-incher available in May. Pricing is set at ¥300,000 (about $2,500) on the low end, up to ¥780,000 (about $6,600) for the top model. The full model list includes the 32-inch TH-32LX600 LCD, 37-inch TH-37PX600 plasma, 42-inch TH-42PX600 plasma, 50-inch TH-50PX600 plasma, and 58-inch TH-58PX600 plasma.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/08/p...asma-lcd-line/

Does this mean a 58" 1080p Panasonic pdp will be available this year for MSRP of $6500? If so, yeahhhhhh! Whoohoo!
post #144 of 5782
Attached are some photos of the 50-inch TH-50PX600 plasma, and 58-inch TH-58PX600 plasma.
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post #145 of 5782
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Originally Posted by RoubaixPro View Post

...All displays support 1080p....

"Support" does not mean they are a 1080p panel. It just means that the signal coming in will be converted to the display resolution. I think the 58" will definitely be a 768 panel since it was introduced with the other 600 series sets.
post #146 of 5782
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Originally Posted by RoubaixPro View Post

Attached are some photos of the 50-inch TH-50PX600 plasma, and 58-inch TH-58PX600 plasma.


Looks like a 'weiner' to me!
post #147 of 5782
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Originally Posted by akpokey View Post


Hey Rich,

You have much more experience with the panels, but to my eye and maybe it's the totality of the contrast, the ED blacks are deeper, darker than the Panny HD panels I've viewed side to side at retail and when comparing my ED vs. my friend's HD.

Alan

See the post from RoubaixPro below yours. Note why Panasonic is touting increased contrast for the new HD models. The contrast of the HD models are now rated the same as the ED model (4000:1) due to increased brightness.

The Panasonic plasmas, like any plasma, need to keep pixels "idling," that is slightly charged or lit, at all times. This is the limiting factor for black levels in plasma. Panasonic's claim to fame is that they have developed a technique to keep these pre-charges at a lower level than other brands (thus the pixels can go darker than other brands). I see no technical reason why Panasonic would achieve lower black levels on the ED models.
post #148 of 5782
The 58" is officially 768p:

http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools

Well, it was to be expected, although I still hoped for 1080p.
post #149 of 5782
According to the link I just posted it seems that the new plasmas do support 1080p input! The text explicitly states that it's not yet HDMI 1.3, though.
post #150 of 5782
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

See the post from RoubaixPro below yours. Note why Panasonic is touting increased contrast for the new HD models. The contrast of the HD models are now rated the same as the ED model (4000:1) due to increased brightness.

But according to Panasonic's press release it was the black level that was improved. No mention was made of an increase in brightness. I'd rather stick to the official Panasonic response until there is more information.

"The VIERA HDTVs incorporate the new PEAKS (Picture Enhancement Accelerator with Kinetic System) Panel, new Deep Black Filter and upgraded Real Black Drive System. The combination has achieved blacker blacks and a stunning 4,000:1 contrast (10,000:1 contrast at maximum) in dark surroundings."
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