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post #151 of 5782
Rich,

Now that I'm thinking about this, I have a vague memory (maybe convient )of a review of an HD 8uk that mentioned the lowest measured black level (are the units nits?) on a plasma belonging to the Panny ED. I don't have time to search for it right now, I'll try later.

Alan
post #152 of 5782
So, nothing about the new 2 million pixel 1080p sets yet? Certainly the pixel count of the new Viera's are not 2 million which is what is takes to get to 1080p.
Nothing more than baby steps with the new Viera's.... but they seem to have all the local boys in a fever......

Still waiting for the 1080p sets here.......
post #153 of 5782
I can't tell from looking at the PX600's if they will be WIDER than the PX60's ... it looks to me as if they might be, by an inch or so on either side. Can anyone tell in all of this Japanese if the dimensions are given? I'm trying to get the width of the 58" and the 50". If the PX600 is the same width as the PX60, then the width of the 58" would be 55.216", round numbers, 56". To my eye the PX600 is going to be 58" wide. Any other thoughts?
post #154 of 5782
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Originally Posted by akpokey View Post

Rich,

Now that I'm thinking about this, I have a vague memory (maybe convient of a review of an HD 8uk that mentioned the lowest measured black level (are the units nits?) on a plasma belonging to the Panny ED. I don't have time to search for it right now, I'll try later.

Alan

I have the same recollection. To my eye, my 4UY looks slightly blacker than my 7UY.

- Rich
post #155 of 5782
Wouldn't it be better for them to develop true 16:9 panels in the 37" and 42" sizes also...a 1368x768 resolution like all the LCD displays? The scaling would be smoother, and should result in a better picture. This would at least be easier to manufacture than 1080p panels...why isn't this the standard????
post #156 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

Wouldn't it be better for them to develop true 16:9 panels in the 37" and 42" sizes also...a 1368x768 resolution like all the LCD displays? The scaling would be smoother, and should result in a better picture. This would at least be easier to manufacture than 1080p panels...why isn't this the standard????

At this stage I think they are focusing on 1920x1080 as this will one day go down to the 42" size (Panasonic will just skip past 1368). The volume and profit margins on the 37" is just too small to warrant any further improvement.
post #157 of 5782
So what's the difference between the 50 and new 60 series model?? 60 vs 600??

I am looking at either the 37" or 42" for my bedroom - TV will be 5' from foot of the bed and 11' from headboard. Should I go with the 42?? Is there a real difference in picture quality ( I note they have different resolutions)

Lastly lot's of hype about the LCD's 1920X1080p. Any real world diff?? Or ??will I just be SOL when HDDVD comes out

Thanks in advance for any input>>>
post #158 of 5782
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Originally Posted by tomboyter View Post

I can't tell from looking at the PX600's if they will be WIDER than the PX60's ... it looks to me as if they might be, by an inch or so on either side. Can anyone tell in all of this Japanese if the dimensions are given? I'm trying to get the width of the 58" and the 50". If the PX600 is the same width as the PX60, then the width of the 58" would be 55.216", round numbers, 56". To my eye the PX600 is going to be 58" wide. Any other thoughts?


Yeah, there are figures for the sets in mm from the Japan announcement.


58 50 42 37
1,454×99×918mm 1,266×95×802mm 1,077×95×689mm 977×95×629mm

1454 millimeters = 57.2440945 inches
1266 millimeters = 49.8425197 inches
1077 millimeters = 42.4015748 inches
977 millimeters = 38.4645669 inches


http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/08/p...asma-lcd-line/
post #159 of 5782
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Originally Posted by lipcrkr View Post

Could you? Please? Pretty please? I have DVI on my graphics card and would love to be able to hook my PC up to the 60u and save some money. I would definately have my TV on before booting the PC.

Isn't it better to hook up a computer to a real VGA style input like the 600U will have instead of alternatives such as HDMI (takes up one of the two available, maybe not a recommended choice by Panasonic), S-Video (option on the Mac Mini), composite out (also option on Mac Mini)? For this reason, it seems worth it to pay the several hundred more for the 600U unless you have no plans for computer interface. Prices are reduced this year anyway so the 600U comes closer to what the 50U was.
post #160 of 5782
Hey Thanks UURonl !!!! That puts the PX600 at about 2.25 inches wider than the PX60 at the 50" size. I think that they announced that the 58 would be available as a PX60, so maybe it will be around my 56" target. Ain't this all such fun!
post #161 of 5782
NP. I'm pretty excited about these. The 37 should *just* fit in my bedroom in the narrow space I have. Barely.

If you auto-translate the "read" link from Engadget, and then click on the hypertext links for one of the plasmas, there is another page you can translate as well. That's where I found a grid with the features, connection, and dimensions.
post #162 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Holydoc View Post

I have to second that thank you, Bruzzi. Thanks for taking the time and effort to place those wonderful pictures and such on your sight. Excellent work!

You're Very Welcome. As they say... A picture worth a thousand words!!!


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Originally Posted by davyo View Post

Hey BruZZi or anyone else. Does anyone have a email address for these folks at Panasonic that seem to think we like those silver bezels.

Davyo

Sorry, I dont know any but I like your Idea.


ATTENTION: The New Domain for BruZZi's Plasma FAQ is bruzzi.ws
If you have a direct link to the site please uptade to the new Domain Name.
post #163 of 5782
For those that dislike the silver stand why not consider having it powder coated in black
post #164 of 5782
post #165 of 5782
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Originally Posted by hoodlum View Post

But according to Panasonic's press release it was the black level that was improved. No mention was made of an increase in brightness. I'd rather stick to the official Panasonic response until there is more information.

"The VIERA HDTVs incorporate the new PEAKS (Picture Enhancement Accelerator with Kinetic System) Panel, new Deep Black Filter and upgraded Real Black Drive System. The combination has achieved blacker blacks and a stunning 4,000:1 contrast (10,000:1 contrast at maximum) in dark surroundings."


Using a darker filter will result lower black levels but the brightness will be decreased as well. There must be an increase of brightness in this case to get better contrast ratio. Now if Panasonic just updated the real black drive system lowering the black levels (without touching the brightness), then no increase of brightness will be necessary to get higher CR.


BruZZi's Panasonic Plasma FAQ - bruzzi.ws
post #166 of 5782
Isn't this "New Deep Black Filter" comparable to what Pioneer did with the 6th gen sets? Isn't this what we were hoping Panasonic would adopt with their next generation? It sounds like they have pretty much done it all, with deeper blacks and improved brightness. I'm just confused as RiP over the 16-bit processing and only 3072 grayscale steps?!?
post #167 of 5782
One thing I would love to hear you new owners of the PX60 address is the "floating blacks" issue. Does the new set have the same problem (feature) as the PX50 and other 8th gen sets?
post #168 of 5782
It looks like the DMXR 3000 is a HD DVD player already in Japan, isnt there any place you can call over to Japan to buy one now
post #169 of 5782
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Originally Posted by BruZZi View Post

Using a darker filter will result lower black levels but the brightness will be decreased as well. There must be a increase of brightness in this case to get better contrast ratio. Now if Panasonic just updated the real black drive system lowering the black levels (without touching the brightness), then no increase of brightness will be necessary to get higher CR.


BruZZi's Panasonic Plasma FAQ - bruzzi.ws

Agreed. I wonder if they did add a filter and upped the brightness- then perhaps overall life would decrease.
post #170 of 5782
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Originally Posted by offthechizzain View Post

It looks like the DMXR 3000 is a HD DVD player already in Japan, isnt there any place you can call over to Japan to buy one now

is that a good idea chizzain?? we dont know which will win the "battle" blu-ray or HDdvd. im waiting to see which will be the next standard then ill buy one of those. may be to early to buy a br/HDdvd player/recorder and then you see that movies and all other new media will be released on the other standard. im excited no matter which wins. HD movies is something i cant wait for
post #171 of 5782
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Originally Posted by assJack1 View Post

Agreed. I wonder if they did add a filter and upped the brightness- then perhaps overall life would decrease.

that didnt happen. i was told from someone here that its still 60,000 hour half-life. that would be a very bad move to lower that. very bad.
post #172 of 5782
For me it"s all about Floating Blacks... If it's there again I won't buy the panny... It's a major issue. (I would be happy if they kept the same black level without the floating blacks)
post #173 of 5782
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Originally Posted by BruZZi View Post

Using a darker filter will result lower black levels but the brightness will be decreased as well. There must be an increase of brightness in this case to get better contrast ratio. Now if Panasonic just updated the real black drive system lowering the black levels (without touching the brightness), then no increase of brightness will be necessary to get higher CR.


BruZZi's Panasonic Plasma FAQ - bruzzi.ws


If you follow the link I have in an earlier post to the Japanese sites and translate the page, I believe the claim is that these panels are 20% brighter than previous panels.
post #174 of 5782
I'm not sure that I fully understand "floating blacks". Does this mean that certain blacks rythmicly fluctuate in brightness?
post #175 of 5782
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Originally Posted by UUronl View Post

If you follow the link I have in an earlier post to the Japanese sites and translate the page, I believe the claim is that these panels are 20% brighter than previous panels.

Thanks UUronl, didn't see that. Now it makes sense.


BruZZi's Panasonic Plasma FAQ - bruzzi.ws
Lots of info for all Plasmas in general.
post #176 of 5782
I know it just seems like it would take awhile to get an HD DVD player from Panny almost a 1-1 1/2 yr.
post #177 of 5782
This seems in line with some of the other PC hookup questions and I have read a few posts, but they seem to address PC to PHDs and not PWDs hookups. Am I going to have any problems connecting my PC to the TH-42PWD8UK and watching movies via the DVD or divx files via media player? Does anyone else do this?

I may be wrong but since my video card only goes down to 800x600, I was wondering if this would be a problem or not be ideal. Watching stuff of my PC is second in importantance to watching football (HD and SD) and I just want to make sure I am making the right choice when I order the PWD.
post #178 of 5782
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Originally Posted by 187 View Post

For me it"s all about Floating Blacks... If it's there again I won't buy the panny... It's a major issue. (I would be happy if they kept the same black level without the floating blacks)

I am pretty sure that floating black issue was resolved with some settings. I read the thread (it was long) and by the end the issue was solved. Also, Harkness who owns the 65" 7uk, and Suzook too 8uk, say there is no floating black issue with the them.
post #179 of 5782
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Originally Posted by assJack1 View Post

Also, Harkness who owns the 65" 7uk, and Suzook too 8uk, say there is no floating black issue with the them.

Actually I don't own the 65" Panasonic plasma, and I did spot black shift problems on the 7gen model.
post #180 of 5782
Would someone please be kind enough to clarify the floating/shifting black thing for me? I have a Panasonic on order and would like to know what this is all about? Is my assessment above correct? I don't think I've ever seen it in person.

Thanks.
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