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post #1 of 603
3/7/06 at 7:00am
Thread Starter 
With Sony's line show on March 16 in Las Vegas quickly approaching, it's almost time to finally hear the official details about their 2006 SXRDs. I've not seen another comprehensive thread that focuses specifically on the 2006 models, so here we can consolidate the speculation and wishlists up until that point and then the reactions and discussion once the official announcements have been made.

So, in the meantime, what does everybody expect to happen? What improvements do you think we'll see in the new models? What will be the MSRPs? When will they begin shipping? Will they lose the "dumbo ears" speakers? Will they offer a model that utilizes LED technology, like some of the new DLPs?

Hopefully for anyone who is waiting to purchase a new SXRD - or anyone who is currently on the fence between a SXRD and other set - the next couple of weeks should yield a lot of information and make those decisions easier (or perhaps more difficult).

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post #2 of 603
3/7/06 at 11:16am
I'm hoping to hear that they accept 1080P via HDMI and there will be a 70" model.
post #3 of 603
3/7/06 at 11:22am
Hopefully there will be:

1. 55"
2. reduced SSE
3. less depth
4. LED
5. No silver, or at least more A20ish


What will happen:

1. 55" with ears
2. Same screen, or a glare screen
3. (- 4) inches
4. bulb
5. Same cabinet
post #4 of 603
3/7/06 at 11:28am
A lot of speculation about the 2006 SXRD's was in the "Sony SXRD Rumors" thread @ http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=632350
post #5 of 603
3/7/06 at 11:41am
LED would certainly be nice. Replacing bulbs is really the only downside I can think of for the SXRD, other than the decidedly subjective footprint form factor of rear projection.
post #6 of 603
3/7/06 at 11:56am
Quote:
Originally Posted by malichai
I'm hoping to hear that they accept 1080P via HDMI and there will be a 70" model.
That makes two of us.
post #7 of 603
3/7/06 at 12:05pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by malichai
I'm hoping to hear that they accept 1080P via HDMI and there will be a 70" model.
Will that give you better blacks?
post #8 of 603
3/8/06 at 6:44am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Auditor55
Will that give you better blacks?
What's that got to do with anything?

Have fun waiting for SED...it just got delayed another year, FYI.

LAFF.
post #9 of 603
3/8/06 at 8:47am
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kmfdm515
What's that got to do with anything?

Have fun waiting for SED...it just got delayed another year, FYI.

LAFF.
At least that's one more option off the table for me... not that SED would have been an option anyway, if it had been initially priced out of my league.

I'm stuck square on the fence between a Samsung HLS-series DLP and a 2006-model Sony SXRD. I have to say that currently I'm leaning towards the DLP due to style (I love the new all-black models), form factor (no ears!), and especially price. If TVA does a PowerBuy, the price delta between a new DLP and a SXRD will be even more extreme. Even though I think the SXRDs are better sets overall (assuming you don't get a lemon... or maybe a lime, thanks to the green blob), I'm really not sure that's worth an extra $1000 - $1500+.

Anybody else in the same boat?
post #10 of 603
3/8/06 at 9:39am
LED and hopefully with the new chips that would improve the PQ. A bit sharper...like that of a DLP but with the color saturation of an SXRD LCos.....oh and all the sizes for my choosing 55, 60, 70 etc..

Is that too much to ask? after all, we're about to shell out a few grand of our hard earned money
post #11 of 603
3/8/06 at 9:45am
This was on the SXRD owner's thread:


QUOTE=boze44]

Following info just passed to me from good friend who is a long time Sony dealer:

55" is scheduled for a July release (for now).

Full HD High Picture Quality
  • 3 SXRD Full HD resolution (1920x1080/0.61†SXRD panel)
  • Superior contrast by “Cinema Black Proâ€
  • DRC MF-V1

High Sound Quality
  • SRS TruSurround XT
  • BBE Digital

Advanced Connectivity
  • HDMI x 2 inputs for digital connectivity (1080p reception)
  • Front component for HDV Camcorder
  • PC Input (D-Sub 15pin)

Additional Features
  • Compact Frame Design

Apparently, by qualifying the HDMI imputs with "1080p reception" it appears they will receive 1080p signals.

Also, according to the picture on the sheet he sent the Dumbo ears are gone (indicates this is so for all new 50/55/60" models)!!
The "brand new compact design" is not just for less deep but also width savings due to losing those silly speakers.

Hope this helps; I simply can't wait to get one as I have oggled over the 50" & 60" models in my local Tweeter store more than once![/quote]
post #12 of 603
3/8/06 at 10:08am
Quote:
Originally Posted by DBEX
This was on the SXRD owner's thread:


QUOTE=boze44]

Following info just passed to me from good friend who is a long time Sony dealer:

55" is scheduled for a July release (for now).

Full HD High Picture Quality
  • 3 SXRD Full HD resolution (1920x1080/0.61†SXRD panel)
  • Superior contrast by “Cinema Black Proâ€
  • DRC MF-V1

High Sound Quality
  • SRS TruSurround XT
  • BBE Digital

Advanced Connectivity
  • HDMI x 2 inputs for digital connectivity (1080p reception)
  • Front component for HDV Camcorder
  • PC Input (D-Sub 15pin)

Additional Features
  • Compact Frame Design

Apparently, by qualifying the HDMI imputs with "1080p reception" it appears they will receive 1080p signals.

Also, according to the picture on the sheet he sent the Dumbo ears are gone (indicates this is so for all new 50/55/60" models)!!
The "brand new compact design" is not just for less deep but also width savings due to losing those silly speakers.

Hope this helps; I simply can't wait to get one as I have oggled over the 50" & 60" models in my local Tweeter store more than once!
[/quote]

If this was actually released, I'd buy it without hesitation
post #13 of 603
3/8/06 at 10:32am
Quote:
Originally Posted by DBEX
This was on the SXRD owner's thread:


QUOTE=boze44]

Following info just passed to me from good friend who is a long time Sony dealer:

55" is scheduled for a July release (for now).

Full HD High Picture Quality
  • 3 SXRD Full HD resolution (1920x1080/0.61†SXRD panel)
  • Superior contrast by “Cinema Black Proâ€
  • DRC MF-V1

High Sound Quality
  • SRS TruSurround XT
  • BBE Digital

Advanced Connectivity
  • HDMI x 2 inputs for digital connectivity (1080p reception)
  • Front component for HDV Camcorder
  • PC Input (D-Sub 15pin)

Additional Features
  • Compact Frame Design

Apparently, by qualifying the HDMI imputs with "1080p reception" it appears they will receive 1080p signals.

Also, according to the picture on the sheet he sent the Dumbo ears are gone (indicates this is so for all new 50/55/60" models)!!
The "brand new compact design" is not just for less deep but also width savings due to losing those silly speakers.

Hope this helps; I simply can't wait to get one as I have oggled over the 50" & 60" models in my local Tweeter store more than once!
[/quote]

Can you please post the "picture on the sheet" or the "sheet" itself?
post #14 of 603
3/8/06 at 10:44am
Thread Starter 
That quote was second-hand information. A member posted what a Sony dealer friend had told him. The "sheet" and pictures weren't posted.

This is the kind of stuff that I really hope we see come out of Vegas next Thursday.
post #15 of 603
3/8/06 at 11:20am
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtw76mtw
That quote was second-hand information. A member posted what a Sony dealer friend had told him. The "sheet" and pictures weren't posted.

This is the kind of stuff that I really hope we see come out of Vegas next Thursday.
Oops; you're right. Thanks for the clarification :) I agree, I hope that we learn more about these possible products next Thursday. Based on the way Sony has been releasing information lately, I would bet the farm that we won't learn a darn thing about these new sets. I REALLY hope they wised up and lost the ears on all of the 2006 SXRD's; if they didn't, I won't be buying one (JVC, here I come...).
post #16 of 603
3/8/06 at 11:26am
Quote:
Originally Posted by kmfdm515
What's that got to do with anything?

Have fun waiting for SED...it just got delayed another year, FYI.

LAFF.

Why be in rush
post #17 of 603
3/8/06 at 11:27am
Quote:
Originally Posted by DBEX
This was on the SXRD owner's thread:


QUOTE=boze44]

Following info just passed to me from good friend who is a long time Sony dealer:

55" is scheduled for a July release (for now).

Full HD High Picture Quality
  • 3 SXRD Full HD resolution (1920x1080/0.61†SXRD panel)
  • Superior contrast by “Cinema Black Proâ€
  • DRC MF-V1

[
[/quote]

Can someone translate what DRC MF-V1 is?
post #18 of 603
3/8/06 at 11:27am
If this was actually released, I'd buy it without hesitation[/quote]


What about the green blob?
post #19 of 603
3/8/06 at 11:35am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Auditor55
If this was actually released, I'd buy it without hesitation

What about the green blob?[/quote]

I'm pretty sure that the green blob has been taken care of in the more recent builds of the SXRD's.
post #20 of 603
3/8/06 at 11:41am
Quote:
Originally Posted by DBEX
This was on the SXRD owner's thread:


QUOTE=boze44]

Following info just passed to me from good friend who is a long time Sony dealer:

55" is scheduled for a July release (for now).

Full HD High Picture Quality
  • 3 SXRD Full HD resolution (1920x1080/0.61 SXRD panel)
  • Superior contrast by Cinema Black Pro
  • DRC MF-V1

High Sound Quality
  • SRS TruSurround XT
  • BBE Digital

Advanced Connectivity
  • HDMI x 2 inputs for digital connectivity (1080p reception)
  • Front component for HDV Camcorder
  • PC Input (D-Sub 15pin)

Additional Features
  • Compact Frame Design

Apparently, by qualifying the HDMI imputs with "1080p reception" it appears they will receive 1080p signals.

Also, according to the picture on the sheet he sent the Dumbo ears are gone (indicates this is so for all new 50/55/60" models)!!
The "brand new compact design" is not just for less deep but also width savings due to losing those silly speakers.

Hope this helps; I simply can't wait to get one as I have oggled over the 50" & 60" models in my local Tweeter store more than once!
[/quote]


doesn't this seem to be the "prototype" that Sony had shown at this year's CES ?
LL
post #21 of 603
3/8/06 at 11:47am
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterjensen
What about the green blob?
I'm pretty sure that the green blob has been taken care of in the more recent builds of the SXRD's.[/quote]

Especially since it was never in most of the old builds. ;)
post #22 of 603
3/8/06 at 11:48am
Can someone translate what DRC MF-V1 is?[/quote]

I thought that these new T.V's would have the Digital reality Circuit but with version 2???
post #23 of 603
3/8/06 at 11:52am
Quote:
Originally Posted by llepky
Can someone translate what DRC MF-V1 is?
Digital Reality Creation Multi-Function version 1.

Sony's description of upconversion.
post #24 of 603
3/8/06 at 1:00pm
How is it different from the DRC MF-V2 on the 2005 SXRD?
post #25 of 603
3/8/06 at 1:06pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by UxiSXRD
LED would certainly be nice. Replacing bulbs is really the only downside I can think of for the SXRD
Eliminating the color panels would be the biggest improvement imo. Possibly no more discolored corners, purple, blue blacks.
post #26 of 603
3/8/06 at 1:22pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by UxiSXRD
How is it different from the DRC MF-V2 on the 2005 SXRD?
V1 would be a step backwards, identical to the DRC processing I have on my 2003 directview CRT HDTV. I cannot believe this is true.

As far as I have been able to ascertain, there are two flavors of DRC MF-V2, an 8 bit version and a 10 bit version. The Sony Rupy FP has the 10 bit version, and I believe that the XBRs have the 8 bit version, although I never did get conclusive proof of this.

I was hoping that the new SXRD XBRs would have the 10 bit flavor of V2.

Either way, that V1 has to be a mistake.
post #27 of 603
3/8/06 at 3:11pm
Auditor55, do you ever post anything constructive? Geez.

How about a go get you some cheese to go along with that whine?
post #28 of 603
3/8/06 at 3:13pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterjensen
What about the green blob?
I'm pretty sure that the green blob has been taken care of in the more recent builds of the SXRD's.[/quote]

Agree 100%
post #29 of 603
3/8/06 at 3:15pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by UxiSXRD
I'm pretty sure that the green blob has been taken care of in the more recent builds of the SXRD's.
Especially since it was never in most of the old builds. ;)[/quote]

Agree 100%. I'm confident that we won't be hearing about this in 2006.
post #30 of 603
3/8/06 at 3:41pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by pbmpharmacist
Especially since it was never in most of the old builds. ;)
Agree 100%. I'm confident that we won't be hearing about this in 2006.[/quote] Let's Hope!! I am lokking forward to my 2006 55" thin-profile 1080p-in SXRD!
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