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post #31 of 9252
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Originally Posted by Toebee View Post

I was physically at BestBuy. We went to the computer. He searched for 37" LCDs and for Westinghouse LCDs. Only the LTV-37w2 showed up. There were 139 in stock at the warehouse. They were priced at $1699. I saw this with my own eyes.

For the record, for the mods/gods, $1699 is the MSRP of the LTV-37w2.

FWIW, the price on JR.com for the the mythical LVM-37w3 is higher than the LTV-37w2's MSRP.
post #32 of 9252
Here's the specs for it from BB's site. The only thing that bothers me is the contrast ratio.
It even come with a stand...


[edit] my bad, i guess this was the old one ...it's the first i've seen of it. I thought lcd's could only display 720p
Westinghouse 37" Widescreen HD-Ready Flat-Panel LCD TV Monitor with 1080p Display - Silver
Model: LVM-37W1
post #33 of 9252
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Originally Posted by Toebee View Post

Question is, how is J&R able to preorder a model that no ones even heard of or have been anticipating? Not even Westinghouse knows of this model. If you google it only J&R's website shows up. Now you ask me, does something sound fishy?

I'd be more than happy if there was a new 1920 x 1080 37" Westy, especially for that price.

Well, frankly I haven't seen mention of LVM37W2 either up until now, reading about it in this forum. When I checked Westinghouse web site about a week ago I have not seen LVM37W2 listed anywhere and it's already in BB stores so that means pretty much nothing. We know they have 1080p 37 LCD panels for about a year now, we know the specs are pretty good on W1, so except for the casing and QC W3 should be exactly the same as W1? I'm sure LVM37W1 was a good seller and let me put it this way, I'll be the first one to get newer 1080p model as soon as they show up in stores, the 1368x768 model they would have to give it to me for free, I'm so not excited about it, just another lame 37" LCD HDTV among 50 or so other models, yawn.
post #34 of 9252
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Originally Posted by Toebee View Post

Question is, how is J&R able to preorder a model that no ones even heard of or have been anticipating? Not even Westinghouse knows of this model. If you google it only J&R's website shows up. Now you ask me, does something sound fishy?

I'd be more than happy if there was a new 1920 x 1080 37" Westy, especially for that price.

BTW, I'm not sure what you mean with regards to the price. You can already get a 1920x1080 37" Westy (LVM-37w1) for less than that price at some places, so it's not as if the new price is earth shattering.

P.S. My guess is that if the LVM-37w3 does indeed exist, it will use the same screen as the LVM-37w1.
post #35 of 9252
has anyone emailed westinghouse asking if this set actually exists?
post #36 of 9252
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Originally Posted by alucard_x View Post

has anyone emailed westinghouse asking if this set actually exists?

I was hoping someone could check again with Best Buy USA on Sunday (March 19), but in the meantime I did email Westinghouse. They seem pretty reasonable with their response times, but it did take a few days for them to respond to my last question (about Canadian availability) so I wouldn't expect a response until next week anyway. (I'm not complaining... A few days is great compared to other companies... Just try getting any response from Sony. ) I wonder though if they'll mention anything about future products, for various reasons, including because they seem to contract out their online customer support to a 3rd party.
post #37 of 9252
I was going to suggest that myself (to e-mail Westinghouse). However I called JR and they expect LVM37W3 to show up in store sometime next week, so I keep my fingers crossed. I also checked specs for 42" monitor. This one has 1 HDMI input capable of 1080p video, 2 DVI inputs, 1 VGA and 2 component inputs, that's 6 HD capable inputs total. This set actually has all the inputs I need and want, just hope 37W3, if it exists, has the same setup. If they fixed all the issues common to 37W1, mostly quality control related this is going to be by far the best HDTV for the money.
BTW Westinghouse web site lists 3 32" models: W1, W3 and W4, so I wouldn't be surprised if 37" had more than 1 model also.
post #38 of 9252
I emailed them also, on Tuesday, no reply yet.
If JR is listing them, says they're getting them, then it seems to be legit, not just some unsubstantiated rumour. Let's hope.
post #39 of 9252
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Confirmed!

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Originally Posted by Westy's customer support (in an email) View Post

The LVM-37w3 does exist and should be released at some point this year.
You will see it show up on our website very soon.
post #40 of 9252
I don't like this "some point this year" part since I want it now but otherwise glad to hear that it is coming after all.
post #41 of 9252
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Originally Posted by pete4 View Post

I don't like this "some point this year" part since I want it now but otherwise glad to hear that it is coming after all.

Yeah, that's pretty vague, but then again, we have the report that J&R is expecting to get it next week. Furthermore, there was the post that Best Buy USA was expecting to list it March 19.

BTW, I was originally considering the 42", but if this new 37" has all the ports of the 42" with the same aesthetics, and is $1000 less, it will become a strong consideration. I would prefer a 42" for when I move into a bigger place, but 37" actually fits better for my current abode, and 1000 bux is nothing to sneeze at for "just" 5 inches.

However, considering it may still be a cross-purchase purchase (to Canada) I may hold out for the rest of you guys to test its waters first, before I take the plunge, especially part of the reason I'm making a 1080p screen purchase is for a PS3 and a second-generation Intel Mac mini. OTOH, in some ways it will be easier to risk ~$2000 (37" plus shipping) than it is to risk <$3000 (42" plus shipping) for a new TV purchased online.

stucandu also mentioned that Westinghouse is working on a deal with Best Buy Canada to sell Westinghouse TVs again. Here's hopin'...
post #42 of 9252
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Originally Posted by BuGsArEtAsTy View Post

BTW, I was originally considering the 42", but if this new 37" has all the ports of the 42" with the same aesthetics, and is $1000 less, it will become a strong consideration. I would prefer a 42" for when I move into a bigger place, but 37" actually fits better for my current abode, and 1000 bux is nothing to sneeze at for "just" 5 inches.


there's no way this will be $1000 less than the 42".

I would say $700-800 if we're lucky.
post #43 of 9252
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OK, US$800 less would be OK too. That's CAD$922. Close enough.

The 42" set's MSRP is $2799. I think $1999 might be a good guess for MSRP for the 37" LVM-37w3, since it breaks the magical $2000 barrier, but is still noticeably higher than what most stores are selling the old LVM-37w1 for (even though the LVM-37w1 has a MSRP of $2299). $1999 is also significantly higher than the $1699 MSRP for the LTV-37w2.

EDIT:

Hmmm... There is a Best Buy in Amherst New York. As far as I can tell, that's the closest USA Best Buy to Toronto. There doesn't seem to be one in Niagara Falls, NY. I am guessing the box should fit easily in my Prius, although it for sure will not fit if I stand it up. Whoever is first to buy this monitor, please post the box dimensions.
post #44 of 9252
If it's true then my hats off to you. I will return my w1 in a second and wait for the w3. Then again I can't believe it till I see it. If the price is only $100 more than what the w1 is going for now then that's a steal. Let's all pray now.
post #45 of 9252
The press release was made in January. The W2 has a built in ATSC tuner. Can't post the link as I haven't made 5 posts yet.
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Post 5........hopefully can post link next time...
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post #50 of 9252
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Originally Posted by BuGsArEtAsTy View Post

OK, US$800 less would be OK too. That's CAD$922. Close enough.

The 42" set's MSRP is $2799. I think $1999 might be a good guess for MSRP for the 37" LVM-37w3, since it breaks the magical $2000 barrier, but is still noticeably higher than what most stores are selling the old LVM-37w1 for (even though the LVM-37w1 has a MSRP of $2299). $1999 is also significantly higher than the $1699 MSRP for the LTV-37w2.

EDIT:

Hmmm... There is a Best Buy in Amherst New York. As far as I can tell, that's the closest USA Best Buy to Toronto. There doesn't seem to be one in Niagara Falls, NY. I am guessing the box should fit easily in my Prius, although it for sure will not fit if I stand it up. Whoever is first to buy this monitor, please post the box dimensions.

When I was picking up LVM37W1 I think I made some estimates for box size and it came out it wouldn't fit into my 2001 Honda Accord, unless I would take it out of box so I took my truck instead. I think Honda is much bigger than Prius so I doubt it would fit inside as the box is much bigger than TV itself. I think it's height was way too large in particular. Of course newer model seems to be lower, so maybe it will fit after all. As a side note: If I was in Canada , I would go to BB and have them hook up to all inputs and test right there on the store floor. Chances are, if it works well out of box, it will work for many years. I never bought extended warranty on electronics and so far never regret it yet (knock on the wood) so maybe lack of Westinghouse service in Canada will be irelevant anyway. I can't wait for this new HDTV.
post #51 of 9252
I thought the original press release for the W2 was for a 1080p panel. Does this mean there is also a W3 panel or is this a misprint? Seems like if there really was a W3 it would have been announced at CES along with the 42" 1080p monitor, and the 32"and 40" with built in dvd. Link to the lcd's with dvd players is https://www.westinghousedigital.com/...aspx?whlm=cnav
post #52 of 9252

That's the wrong model, besides they said this monitor will be sold alongside another, 1080p 37" model with 8 inputs. Unless they don't know how to count, it can't be LVM37W1 since LVM37W1 has only 7 inputs (and one output). The LVM37W3 should have 8 inputs (7 carry over from LVM37W1 plus HDMI, just like 42" model has). Still waiting for official word and specs on LVM37W3. BTW my BB guy said they expecting to get LVM37W6 but I think he was just confused.
post #53 of 9252
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LMAO


i hope it really comes out next week or else im gonna go with a syntax
post #54 of 9252
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Originally Posted by jomabu1 View Post

I thought the original press release for the W2 was for a 1080p panel. Does this mean there is also a W3 panel or is this a misprint? [/url][/u]

That's kinda the whole focus of this thread which you somehow didn't notice.
post #55 of 9252
stucandu,

I thought the original announcement for the W2 was that it was 1080p. Guess not or it has been revised... have been spending too much time reading too many forums while pulling allnighters.
Sorry
post #56 of 9252
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Originally Posted by jomabu1 View Post

I thought the original announcement for the W2 was that it was 1080p. Guess not or it has been revised... have been spending too much time reading too many forums while pulling allnighters.
Sorry

The LTV-37w2 has never been been announced at 1080p. It has always been 1366x768.

There are three 37" models:

LVM-37w1: Current 1080p model with no tuner. (I presume "VM" means video monitor.)
LTV-37w2: Current 720p model with tuner. (Note the "TV" in the name.)
LVM-37w3: New 1080p model with no tuner, presumably to replace the LVM-37w1. (It also has "VM" in the name.) Hopefully out next week.

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More people are reporting lockups in the 42" thread. Also, insufficient overscan options are proving to be an annoyance. They say it's nice that the TV has a no overscan setting for PC inputs, but for TV you need overscan. The Westy allows it, but may overscan too much if turned on.

Blacks are pretty good, but not great, as expected. I wonder if the Sony/Sharp LCD 1300:1/1200:1 contrast ratios are significantly better. My guess is that they are indeed better since people who have seen the 37" LVM-37w1 next to the Sonys and Sharps say that the Westy is not as good.

Heh. I'm tempted just to throw in the towel and wait for that mythical SED panel from Toshiba/Canon. But that wouldn't work either since rumour has it they may start at 55" and go up from there (even though their demo models were 42").

BTW, I was considering buying the 2405FPW 24" LCD monitor from Dell yesterday since they had a sale on. It supports component, S-video, VGA, DVI, etc. It would be mainly for my computer and to replace the 14" CRT beside it. However I held off... It doesn't support HDCP, and its replacement, the 2407FPW is due out soon. Hopefully it will support HDCP. Not that I need it for the computer, but if it's out soon, why not?

Of interest is that the 2405FPW and LVM-37w1 both claim a 1000:1 contrast ratio, but the former has a measured contrast ratio of 612:1 and the latter Westy is 719:1. Also, the 32" LTV-32w1 is 833:1. Interestingly neither the 32" nor the 37" Westy had great ratings for either white or black uniformity, whatever that means. Is this the uneven backlight issue people are reporting with the 37w1?

One has to wonder how these measurements are done though, since the highly rated Sharp Aquos LC-45GX6U got a measured contrast ratio of 558:1. What it did excel in though compared to the Westys was VESA White and Black Uniformity.
post #57 of 9252
OK OK listen up. The LVM-37w3 IS BEING RELEASED! I emailed Westinghouse and just got a response. I was very skeptical but the rumor is true. I guess I have to say goodbye to my w1.

Quote:


Thank you for your inquiry.

Yes, we are releasing a new 1920 x 1080 37" LCD monitor, aka the
LVM-37w3.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to let us know.


Westinghouse Digital Support Staff

Original Message Follows:
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Are you releasing a new 1920 x 1080 37" LCD monitor, aka the LVM-37w3? I saw it at JR.com. Thank you.
post #58 of 9252
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Originally Posted by Toebee View Post

OK OK listen up. The LVM-37w3 IS BEING RELEASED! I emailed Westinghouse and just got a response. I was very skeptical but the rumor is true. I guess I have to say goodbye to my w1.

What, Westinghouse's previous confirmation wasn't good enough for you?

I guess the good news is that your response seems to suggest it's sooner rather than later (but we already knew that from JR and Best Buy). My guess is we'll see it on www.westinghousedigital.com next week.
post #59 of 9252
I wasn't knocking you...hehe. I had to be skeptical b/c it might take a crobar to separate me from my w1. I really hope it comes out sooner than later. I'm praying for BestBuy to post it and have some good promotions with it.
post #60 of 9252
I don't think anyone has posted an official responce from Westinghouse, on the inputs, and other features, so here you go:

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Thank you for your inquiry.

It looks like the picture on jr.com:

...

So yes the look has changed - it looks like a small LVM-42w1.
Major differences:
It has a new OSD menu, an HDMI input instead of none, both DVI inputs support 1080p and are HDCP compliant instead of just one, and you can turn it up louder because it has 15 watt speakers instead of 10.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to let us know.


Westinghouse Digital Support Staff

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Hi.

I noticed that a few online vendors have the LVM-37w3 out for pre-order.
I was wondering if I could get details on what the differences were between the new model, and the LVM-37w1. Also, are there any form factor changes, or will it look almost identical to the old model?

Thank you.

With all the lock-up issues, and the higher price of the 42w2, I think I may just go for this model...
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