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post #151 of 735
snobgoblin, congrats on the new sub--glad to see you finally decided one and am happy with your decision. I am in the process of figuring out the BFD myself. I have had it for about 3 weeks now and have yet ot plug it in. I just got the connectors earlier this week and have told myself to start to tackle it everynight. Problem is, I put in a movie and get sucked in, never having enough time to dedicate to it. there is some great info on here on it. do some research. go to hometheatershack.com and use the BFD guide provided. Have fun with your new toy--you will want to rewatch numerous movies and if you are like most of us you will find yourself buying and watching movies just for the bass. Re-read this entire thread, there are some good ones listed. Enjoy it.
post #152 of 735
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Originally Posted by bsheldon View Post

snobgoblin, congrats on the new sub--glad to see you finally decided one and am happy with your decision. I am in the process of figuring out the BFD myself. I have had it for about 3 weeks now and have yet ot plug it in.

LOL this is exactly the reason I still have not pulled the trigger on one of these things yet...I love the idea of what it does and have read only glowing testimonials about it, but am afraid that I'd be too lazy and/or technically illiterate to ever get around to using it properly.
post #153 of 735
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Originally Posted by cneely8 View Post

>I calibrated the best i could so far.

What SPL are your mains calibrated to, and what SPL is your sub calibrated to? I'm curious as to how hot you run your sub....

I used the Avia Disk. I set all my mains and surrounds to 74-75db. The sub was set to around 79-80db. I am no pro so I'm not sure if this is 100% right. I'm going to play around with it all weekend. When I made the plots the sub gain knob was around 10oclock and the receiver sub volume was -5. The volume on the receiver was set to -14. I turned it to -14 because I thought the shaking effect a low Hz was cool. This sub has a lot of untapped power.

I tuned it to 16 Hz and watched chapter 3 of war of the worlds. I thought the sectional was going to get sucked into the floor. I switched back to 20 Hz for right now because 16 Hz might be a little to much. I could hear the cabinets in the kitchen gently flapping.
post #154 of 735
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Originally Posted by bsheldon View Post

snobgoblin, congrats on the new sub--glad to see you finally decided one and am happy with your decision. I am in the process of figuring out the BFD myself. I have had it for about 3 weeks now and have yet ot plug it in. I just got the connectors earlier this week and have told myself to start to tackle it everynight. Problem is, I put in a movie and get sucked in, never having enough time to dedicate to it. there is some great info on here on it. do some research. go to hometheatershack.com and use the BFD guide provided. Have fun with your new toy--you will want to rewatch numerous movies and if you are like most of us you will find yourself buying and watching movies just for the bass. Re-read this entire thread, there are some good ones listed. Enjoy it.


I said it once and I'll say it again. Thanks Bsheldon, Ron temple, Craigsub and who ever else helped me through the Long process of chosing the right sub. I tried to be cheap and get the budget subs only to end up going through 3 budget subs. Now i'm finally happy with my purchase. The long Hunt is over. I should have listened the first time you told me to spend the extra money and get the better sub. Thats why these forums are so great. I would have never known about all the great subs that are out there. I would probly still be running my Best Buy bought $300 Athena ps4000.
post #155 of 735
Well, off of some recommendations here, i went out and bought Das Boot and U-571. I watched U571 last night and all i have to say is wow... Those depthcharge scenes...HOLY yowzaaa. The movie itself was ehhh..50/50


Didnt get to Das Boot yet, as I saw its about 4 hours long... that will have to wait till next weekend...
post #156 of 735
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I watched U571 last night and all i have to say is wow... Those depthcharge scenes...HOLY yowzaaa. The movie itself was ehhh..50/50

yep, that's the way it all too often goes: the better the LFE, the lousier the movie.

Aside from "Low Frequency Effects" maybe LFE also stands for "Lousy Film Embarassment."
post #157 of 735
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Aside from "Low Frequency Effects" maybe LFE also stands for "Lousy Film Embarassment."

hahaha.. or "Likely Flop Event"
post #158 of 735
the first 20 minutes of this bond flick are amazing for lfe, it is the first and only movie (i believe) to use a dts track. overall the movie is ok but the first 20 min are full of explosions and even when madonna sings the usual crappy bond song the lfe is amazing, check it out.
post #159 of 735
I don't think anyone mentioned this baby. Get the DTS version, forget the others.
You can feel the water shaking in the tour scene when the boy and girl are in the tour trucks. This is the part were they thought the power went off.

Hard to find the DTS version though.
post #160 of 735
Yeah, the DTS version comes in a single disc special version. The 3-disc 1-3 trilogy pack has DTS for #3 only. I have the DTS for #1, and got the trilogy for Christmas, so I switched out #1 so the DTS versions for #1 and #3 are in the same box.

The drums that kick off the film (#1) are pretty nice too.
post #161 of 735
I may be in the minority here, but I actually liked and thought u-571 was a pretty darn good movie. I watched on a regular tv the first time, so the impressiveness of the LFE was not at all a factor. Das Boot is a very good movie. Decent, LFE, not as good as u-571. It is long, so you will difinatley eat up most a day watching it. Also, remeber is was made in the early 80's, there are couple of scenes that were fairly obviously speceial effect sets, but didn't ditract from the experience. It was actually kind of refreshing to see well done special effects, unlike now where they would just turn the computer on and throw in the background instead of going through the process of making a set.
snobgoblin, you have your setting correct, 3-6db hot on the sub is pretty normal, I run mine 4db hot. Scene 3 from WOW is unbelievable. I really want to go watch it at other people's home theaters just to compare and really appreciate my own. Haven't had the chance lately. That low grumble really shakes things up. As you have discovered, you would have been missing this amazing amount of bass with an inferior sub.
I actually sat down to watch die another day a couple of weeks ago. The first 20 minutes is filled with explosions, but I didn't make it through. I remember liking it the first time I watched it years ago, but this time it was just too much. I turned it off after about 30 minutes.
post #162 of 735
I haven't seen Pirates of the Caribbean mentioned. There is cannon fire similar to Master and Commander, and also a decent amount of rumble in the battle scene between the Interceptor and the Black Pearl.
post #163 of 735
Another thing about Das Boot is the spectacular high level surround action when the bolts start popping after they flee to the depths
post #164 of 735
Thanks for the recommendations!

Can someone please explain to me the difference between DTS and DD? Normally, when you rent from either Netflix or Blockbuster, how do you know what version of the DVD you have?

Additionally, if you don't have HD TV, can you still take advantage of DTS & DD?
post #165 of 735
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Originally Posted by Cadd View Post

Thanks for the recommendations!

Can someone please explain to me the difference between DTS and DD? Normally, when you rent from either Netflix or Blockbuster, how do you know what version of the DVD you have?

Additionally, if you don't have HD TV, can you still take advantage of DTS & DD?


DD (Dolby Digital) and DTS are surround sound formats. It doesn't matter what kind of display you have. But you need to have a compatible receiver and a 5.1 speaker system to enjoy them. DD comes on most DVDs, and DTS comes on a handful as an alternative to DD.
post #166 of 735
To expand on cyberbri's comment, nearly all new DVDs have DD, some have both DD and dts (in these cases the user usually must select dts in the DVD menu as they default to DD), while a very small number were issued in two completely separate versions, one DD, the other dts. The dts only discs tend to be hard to find, and rental places rarely if ever have them as some equipment can't handle the format.
post #167 of 735
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Originally Posted by cyberbri View Post

DD (Dolby Digital) and DTS are surround sound formats. It doesn't matter what kind of display you have. But you need to have a compatible receiver and a 5.1 speaker system to enjoy them. DD comes on most DVDs, and DTS comes on a handful as an alternative to DD.

AND......you need to set your DVD player to "BITSTREAM", correct? I remember that you stressed that point on another thread.
post #168 of 735
I'm buying 2 of the 16-46 cs-pluses with 700watts rms available to each. I have a 36 x 14 room with a cathedral at 13ft for the apex. I hope this is enough to pressure my room. Its a totally dedicated HT with all the floating walls and floors and stuff.
does anyone else have a room this large with something similar?
post #169 of 735
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned king kong. the middle part of the movie will floor you. every time kong growled it would make the hair on my neck stand up!!!
post #170 of 735
flux,

i am sure you will be happy with that. My room is 32x16x9, about 4600 cubic feet and I run the pb12+/2. Those to individual cylinders with that much power should be able to outperform what I am running--if properly set up of course. I can and do hit over 115db of bass on a fairly regular basis (i actually have seen 120db uncorrected on my RS meter) and I would imagine you should be able to get to at least that level as well. Your room is around 5000 cubic feet. good luck with your new toys.
post #171 of 735
This is slightly off-topic but I just got the newish Joe Bonamassa "Live at Rockpalast" Concert DVD linked HERE
and it has DTS format that I'm totally blown away by. Eric Czar's bass playing is awesome and Joes' blues rock guitar playing is a Stevie Ray killer IMHO... I'm totally floored by how good this DVD sounds...If you like blues/rock guitar...this is a must have to add to your collection!!!!! It just screams with sound quality that's demo material for a live music/concert DVD to impress your chums with!!
post #172 of 735
Going back on topic for a post ,Serenity HDVD just a fun flick and relentless LFE.

Art
post #173 of 735
I watched Serenity and The Island at about the same time...and while the LFE in Serenity is better than The Island...I liked The Island better, as a movie, than Serenity.... great sci-fi flicks...
post #174 of 735
I liked The Island better
Sure it wasn't the hot blond?
post #175 of 735
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Originally Posted by cold_fusion View Post

I liked The Island better, as a movie, than Serenity....

post #176 of 735
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Originally Posted by Ironmike86 View Post

I liked The Island better
Sure it wasn't the hot blond?

that definitely added to the likablility of the film....but I found the premise horrifiying!!!!!!
post #177 of 735
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Originally Posted by snobgoblin View Post

I just got my 2039pc plus yesterday and watched a few movies after calibration.

All i can say is this thing is scary. I watched the DARLA scene and almost crapped on myself. Next i watched war of the worlds chap 2 and 3. It felt like the Machine was coming out the living room floor.

The last one i watched was Flight of Pheonix. So far this is my favorite one. The plane crashing was


That crash scene on Flight of the Phoenix is something else. I have a PB12 Ultra/2 and on this scene my wife thought that the vent over the kitchen stove was fixing to break off. My room is around 21x22 with 11' vaulted ceilings and this thing fills every bit of my living room with earth shaking waves.
post #178 of 735
Thanx, bsheldon)
post #179 of 735
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Originally Posted by drnaive View Post


2. The Incredibles (Train Stop, Rocket launch, Big Iron robot fall scene goes below 20 hz)

I just watched The Incredibles and wasn't impressed. Do you have the time stamps for these scenes?

Maybe my sub (SVS PB-10) isn't setup properly (but when I play music, the sub really kicks!).

Right now, I have a 5.1 setup and I have a Optical Digital wire going from DVD to Receiver.

All speakers set to small. Cross over set at 80Hz. The gain set to 1/3 of the way up (about 10 or 11 o'clock).

I watched the movie at about 80dB.
post #180 of 735
well, the Incredibles REALLY impressed me..... although I dont have an SVS monster sub, my Acoustech H100 really shook up my little room... 10x11.... I mean the part where Mr. I jump over the Iron Ball Robot and knock him to the trees..... that almost bought the house down... it was like BOOOOOOOOM and a slam to my chest!

O btw, The Incredibles > WOTW in the bass department IMO.
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