Depeche Mode SACDs - Page 2

Also bought from CD-wow. Took about 1 week to ship. The packaging was flimsy, but otherwise the discs were in perfect condition. Ridiculous cheap. Recommended...that is unless I find a bunch of fraudulent charges on my next credit card bill (which I doubt).

I waited till yesterday to see what the US Rhino Releases would contain. They are only CD+DVD with the CD portion including no SACD layer and the DVD portion including no DVD-A layer. What a disappointment. Only DD and DTS mixes are included in the US release. I believe I'm going to go ahead and order all four Depeche Mode SACD+DVD UK releases because of this. I probably should've done this earlier anyway since my DVD unit will convert PAL to NTSC for the DVD portions. Anyone else feel shorted?

The DVD was never intended to be a DVD-A. It's just to show fans how the music sounds in surround sound via DD and DTS. If they want the pure audio, they have to purchase an SACD/universal player and use the hybrid disc.


fuad

Any one having trouble getting the Import DVD disc to play? I can't seem to get it to work over HDMI.

I'll have to let you know ins week or so; my disks are on their way to me from the UK. The DVD disks will be PAL format. Do you have the 2910's out out set to multi or NTSC?I believe you may have to set it to NTSC.

I just got the Violator set.

CD/SACD with no extras. Stereo and Multichannel.

DVD Video of the album in LPCM stereo, Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS 5.1 96/24. No music videos. Extra tracks in LPCM stereo only.

I must say that I can clearly hear the difference between DTS and DSD. I just need an entire afternoon to play the album loud!


fuad

Amazon UK now lists "Songs of Faith and Devotion", "A Broken Frame" and "Some Great Reward" on SACD for Sept. 11. It's not possible to preorder yet, however.

Mitch

I thought that these cd's were only multichannel and not in hi-rez? I have the violator sacd hybrid. Granted it sounds good but I love this cd and it seems to be perfectly designed for multichannel. I guess my deal is that I was expecting to hear this huge difference in sound quality and I haven't appreciated that quite yet. Any thoughts?

Rvanya, the SACDs are hi-rez; that's part of the definition of SACD. I've found that rock/pop SACDs do sound better than the regular CD versions. However, the difference is not as impressive as I hear on classical SACDs.

I think it comes down to basic sound quality differences between the two universes. Rock/pop music (with some exceptions) is just not recorded or mixed with as high fidelity as most classical.

In fact, SACD makes the bad qualities of rock/pop recordings stand out even more clearly, to my ears.

Doug

I purchased the SACDs not expecting much over the CDs. As predicted, I'm not blown away (have Violator, Masses and S&S), but still feel I'm getting my money's worth. The remixes aren't great, bu how often are bands you really like putting out hires discs anyway? That's why I bought.

Three new remastered Depeche Mode SACDs will be released in Europe on October 2nd 2006:

• A Broken Frame (Remastered Edition Hybrid SACD+DVD)
  
  SACD:
  * Leave In Silence
  * My Secret Garden
  * Monument
  * Nothing To Fear
  * See You
  * Satellite
  * Meaning Of Love
  * My Secret Garden
  * Photograph Of You
  * Shouldn't Have Done That
  * Sun & The Rainfall
  
  DVD: (PAL System, Region 0)
  * Entire Album And Bonus Tracks Mixed In DTS 5.1,Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround & PCM Stereo
  * My Secret Garden (Live In Hammersmith, October 1982)
  * See You (Live In Hammersmith, October 1982)
  * Satellite (Live In Hammersmith, October 1982)
  * Nothing To Fear (Live In Hammersmith, October 1982)
  * The Meaning of Love (Live In Hammersmith, October 1982)
  * A Photograph of You (Live In Hammersmith, October 1982)
  * Now This Is Fun (Additional Track)
  * Oberkorn (It's A Small Town) (Additional Track)
  * Excerpt From: My Secret Garden (Additional Track)
  * The Beginning Of Their So-called Dark Phase (27 Minutes Short Film)

• Some Great Reward (Remastered Edition Hybrid SACD+DVD)
  
  SACD:
  * Something To Do
  * Lie To Me
  * People Are People
  * It Doesn't Matter
  * Stories Of Old
  * Somebody
  * Master & Servant
  * If You Want
  * Blasphemous Rumours
  
  DVD: (PAL System & Region 0)
  * Entire Album And Bonus Tracks Mixed In DTS 5.1,Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround & PCM Stereo
  * If You Want (Live In Basel And Liverpool, Autumn 1984)
  * People Are People (Live In Basel And Liverpool, Autumn 1984)
  * Somebody (Live In Basel And Liverpool, Autumn 1984)
  * Blasphemous Rumours (Live In Basel And Liverpool, Autumn 1984)
  * Master And Servant (Live In Basel And Liverpool, Autumn 1984)
  * In Your Memory (Additional Track)
  * (Set Me Free) Remotivate Me (Additional Track)
  * Somebody (Remix) (Additional Track)
  * You Can Get Away With Anything If You Give It A Good Tune (31 Minutes Short Film)

• Songs Of Faith And Devotion (Remastered Edition Hybrid SACD+DVD)
  
  SACD:
  * I Feel You
  * Walking In My Shoes
  * Condemnation
  * Mercy In You
  * Judas
  * In Your Room
  * Get Right With Me
  * Rush
  * One Caress
  * Higher Love
  
  DVD: (PAL System & Region 0)
  * Entire Album And Bonus Tracks Mixed In DTS 5.1,Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround & PCM Stereo
  * My Joy (Additional Track)
  * Condemnation (Paris Mix) (Additional Track)
  * Death's Door (Jazz Mix) (Additional Track)
  * In Your Room (Zephyr Mix) (Additional Track)
  * I Feel You Life's (Too Short Mix) (Additional Track)
  * Walking In My Shoes (Grungy Gonads Mix) (Additional Track)
  * My Joy (Slowslide Mix) (Additional Track)
  * In Your Room (Apex Mix) (Additional Track)
  * We Were Going To Live Together, Record Together And It Was Going To Be Wonderful (36 Minutes Short Film)

http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/15640//y?page=first

Jeez, I thought I was up on all of this multi-channel stuff. I purchased the Violator (really liked) & Music for the Masses (waste of money, imo) 2 disk sets (CD & DD/DTS DVD) and now I find there are actually high-rez formats available outside of the United States.

Depeche mode is one of the few groups I prefer to watch/listen to on their DVD concert video ( One NIght in Paris--a lot better visually and sonically than Devotional) than listening to the 2 Audio disks initially mentioned.

I feel differently when it comes to other artist, for example, REM. I like the Perfect Square Live DVD--but always feel compelled to play their Greatest hits DVD-A (highly recommended) sometime during the viewing of the concert.

I take it that the DVDs would play in the Acuras' DVD-based audio system? Picked Violator up for my brother for his bday. He has a TL and is always complaining that there's nothing out there for DVD-A.

Might play the DTS 5.1 (24bit/96k) layer, but not the hi-res 5.1 SACD mix.

Now available for pre-order at Amazon UK: "A Broken Frame", "Some Great Reward" and "Songs of Faith and Devotion". Also updated is the Depeche Mode remasters site.

Seems you guys in the US won't be getting an SACD-layer on discs one this time either. What gives?

Mitch

I opted to buy the PAL/All Region SACDs from Hong Kong, will be doing it again for these releases once they become available... They play perfectly on my Pioneer SACD/universal player...

I wanted to post on this thread although I live in the United States and have the DD and DTS versions of these disks. I posted my impressions of the first 2 disks I bought above. Recently I purchased Speak and Spell which I really like (although the lyrics aren't as, how shall we say ,"Hetro" enough for me to feel comfortable walking around the house singing ). I didn't realize it was one of their first releases because of the techno-synthesizer feel to it and the clarity of the sound. It's a fun one to listen to.

On the Songs of Faith and Devotion disk however, the 2 songs I really like from other sources sound way to bass intensive compared to anything else I own. Both "I feel you" and "Walking in my shoes," really takes some tweeking to get to sound right. Even then it's not the sonic experience I was expecting from this disk. Is anyone else having this problem?

On a side note I found Touring the Angel DVD-Video in practically the same packaging and in the same section as the other DD/DTS audio disks in Bestbuy. In fact, I thought I was buying an audio disk until I got home and read the fine print. Btw, it was a good concert and a close 2nd to "One Night in Paris" out of the 4 Depeche Mode concert DVDs I have.

[quote=Zen Traveler]
On the Songs of Faith and Devotion disk however, the 2 songs I really like from other sources sound way to bass intensive compared to anything else I own. Both "I feel you" and "Walking in my shoes," really takes some tweeking to get to sound right. Even then it's not the sonic experience I was expecting from this disk. Is anyone else having this problem?

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I'm not having this problem. I just tested the first two songs "I feel you" and "Walking in my shoes" and the bass sounds well balanced to me. I am surprised though how close the DTS 24/96 track sounds next to the SACD...both are great mixes (same mix) and would have no reservation listening to the DTS over the SACD. I most likely will keep the DTS version on my music server for quick acesss. I love the packaging on these discs (D M catalog).Having a choice of formats and a few video's too on 2 discs is the ultimate in flexibility! Eric

[quote=himey]
We must have different versions of the disk. Mine does not have the SACD tracks. Only DTS and Dolby Digital multi-channel tracks. You must have the foreign version.

[quote=Zen Traveler]
Does your disc have a 24/96 DTS track. I doubt they would have mixed it twice however I do see them saving money by not including the SACD portion. Also how do you have your bass management set up (if you are using BM). I had a problem with multichannel music before I got a better processor with proper BM.

I picked up my discs from CD WOW for 17 bucks delivered. A deal IMO. I plan on getting the rest of the catalog before the end of the year.Eric

[quote=himey]

Yes, it does have the DTS 96/24 track, but no SACD. I have the Denon DVD-3910 and am familiar with how BM works. I have 4 Depeche Mode disks along with 60+ SACD's and DVD-A's. This disk is unique in the amount of work I have to do to get it to my liking. I also own 4 of their concert DVD's and prefer those 2 songs on them rather than on this DTS disk. I understand those songs are bass intensive and maybe a little too intensive on how I have my system setup. I wanted to post my impressions in case I bought an anomaly. BTW, thanks for your response, himey.

[quote=Zen Traveler]
I just picked up Bjork-Medulla and that disc has much much BASS! It's the DVD-Audio version and it gets LOW! Newer release so I would expect it to! Also I am looking foward to the new Doors Box set. Eric

I am an enormous dM fan and have had these DVDs for a month or so now. We recently purchased an Acura RDX which has DVD-Audio capability, but much to my dismay, the dM DVDs do not play. This may be a silly question - but is there anyway to convert them to DVD-Audio?

I would assume that is a region coding problem, and if you can copy and convert a DVD-V to region 1 that might work. I don't have any idea how to do that however. Making a DVD-A might make it region 1 if software exists to accomplish that, again I don't know how that would be done but the average PC doesn't have the necessary software. I wouldn't worry about making it DVD-A if it is a region issue, just finding a way to copy and convert to region 1 would be the solution.

Chris

WRONG! Regional encoding is only for the video content.

You could take the 5.1 audio, extract it to wav files, then create a DVD-A with Wavelab 5 or DiscWelder. It's a lot of work, however it can be done.

Forgot about these. I'll have to order Music For The Masses right away. Maybe Violator too since it's CD is in dire need of a remaster.

Really? I have seen some non-region 1 DVD's I can't play period since I can't get any menu to select anything, all I get is a message stating check region or wrong region with one of my players. If you are sure the automobile DVD-V players won't have this issue then I would say a region code issue can't be the problem.

Chris

Me. too. Both my DVD player (Pioneer 59AVi) and my computer DVD drive spit out the disc with an error message. So, no audio or video is readable.

Doug

I'm guessing you could create a "backup" of the DVD using DVD-Shrink and tell it to set the region to 0.

You guys should read the reviews for these releases on Amazon.com. It'll give you an idea why SACD and DVD-A won't go anywhere in the US. Anytime anyone complains about the US releases not having SACD, they get slammed for it by other reviewers saying, "Who cares!? Most people can't play SACD anyway!" Really sad. I went and marked as many reviews "helpful" if the person clearly knew what they were talking about.