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post #151 of 4609
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I talked to the guys at CEDIA about the new Stratus stuff, They said that PSB will be coming out with two stages of stratus. what you see in the picture posted above is the first stage of the new stratus line.

(lets say stratus -a, stratus -b)
stratus -a are in beefed up image cabinets with better bracing, crossovers, tweeter, and much better fiberglass drivers

stratus -b will be different yet again. I was unable to see what they will look like.
post #152 of 4609
i have a pair of 3LRs for my bedroom and my main system has a pair of psb subs (subsonic 6 and 6i). very happy with my psbs
post #153 of 4609
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Originally Posted by firebook23 View Post

I talked to the guys at CEDIA about the new Stratus stuff, They said that PSB will be coming out with two stages of stratus. what you see in the picture posted above is the first stage of the new stratus line.

(lets say stratus -a, stratus -b)
stratus -a are in beefed up image cabinets with better bracing, crossovers, tweeter, and much better fiberglass drivers

stratus -b will be different yet again. I was unable to see what they will look like.

That's good to hear. I was a bit underwhelmed by the look of Stratus. Nice, but "where's the beef?" Everyone was busy on Saturday so I stupidly figured I'd come back on Sunday, only to find everything roped off. The speakers look like they might very well sound nice, but I always much preferred the sound of the 3-way Golds over the 2.5-way Silvers. I'd hoped more for a smaller and larger Stratus tower, both 3-ways. Paul loves 2.5-way design, but his 3-way just smoked his 2.5-ways by a large margin.

Of course these days, it's smart to either do bass seriously or not at all. The middlin solutions are only good for stereo in a small to mid-sized rooms and there's not a ton of that going on. I'd have killed for a 3-way tower with dual 6", single 4" CF drivers and a matching center, designed to go with their subs, and then a bigger, badder version, maybe with subs built in or something.
post #154 of 4609
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Originally Posted by Alimentall View Post

I was a bit underwhelmed by the look of Stratus. Nice, but "where's the beef?"

Agreed. To me, these polished-up Image speakers are PSB's way of saying "We got nuthin'."
post #155 of 4609
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Originally Posted by Alimentall View Post

That's good to hear. I was a bit underwhelmed by the look of Stratus. Nice, but "where's the beef?" Everyone was busy on Saturday so I stupidly figured I'd come back on Sunday, only to find everything roped off. The speakers look like they might very well sound nice, but I always much preferred the sound of the 3-way Golds over the 2.5-way Silvers. I'd hoped more for a smaller and larger Stratus tower, both 3-ways. Paul loves 2.5-way design, but his 3-way just smoked his 2.5-ways by a large margin.

Of course these days, it's smart to either do bass seriously or not at all. The middlin solutions are only good for stereo in a small to mid-sized rooms and there's not a ton of that going on. I'd have killed for a 3-way tower with dual 6", single 4" CF drivers and a matching center, designed to go with their subs, and then a bigger, badder version, maybe with subs built in or something.






Just be a little patient. The speakers you saw were the stratus a. They will be coming out with a stratus be that suppose to be totally different. Paul is too smart not to improve on the stratus line.
post #156 of 4609
They had told me to be prepared for very different and cool styling, so I can only assume you are correct in this! That's why I was a bit disappointed, not so much in what was shown, but what wasn't.
post #157 of 4609
Has anyone heard the Stratus G (first stage) speakers? Comments?
post #158 of 4609
I am selling a PSB Image series set-up on Audiogon. It is the 5T, 9C, 10S combo. I will take good offers.

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....ull&1168663751
post #159 of 4609
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Sphinx360 View Post

Has anyone heard the Stratus G (first stage) speakers? Comments?

I have heard them and in my opinion they are very! very! nice. way better then the Image series (they are only close to the same look as the image series and that's where the similarity end). The only thing is that if you want the low end of the old stratus gold's then you should get a sub. but the new stratus G's are a great step.

let me tell you they look like a million bucks as well
post #160 of 4609
Happy PSB owner here. I have Silver fronts, C6 center, 800's as my rears right now. I need something that mounts on my back wall for my surrounds. The 800's are only there until I find something else. Does anyone recommend the S50's or should I wait to see if there is a dipole/bipole speaker coming out with the new Stratus line?
post #161 of 4609
Hi everyone,

I'm looking for some advice - I've got a 3-speaker setup right now that I compiled while I was in University - an older PSB centre channel (from 2002 - I am unsure of the exact model right now) and 2 Image bookshelf speakers up front.

I'm now in a small condo and have started to watch a lot more HD content. Not surprisingly, I want to now add surrounds. I noticed that the Alpha line was just revamped, and I am particularly interested in the Alpha LR1 at $199/pr.

Does anyone have experience with these? I'm looking for something small, as the condo itself isn't very large - and on paper these seem to fit my requirements.

Many thanks!
post #162 of 4609
Well, I've basically decided that the Image T55's were ging to be my next speaker purchase until I read that the straus GT1's were much better--at least to one member here that has heard both. What would one expect b/t the new alphas and the T55 or maybe even the T65's..?
post #163 of 4609
I still have a full PSB Image series set-up for sale here. 5T, 9C, 10S and I am taking ANY reasonable offers. Need to sell these soon! PM me and I will send pics and info! THANKS GUYS!
post #164 of 4609
I just bought a pair of PSB Image B25s so as to upgrade & save space within our new media room. We love them...our original thought was to use speaker brackets to mount them to the wall however, due to placement of the new flat screen this will no longer work. So speaker stands it is, any suggestions on those would be my first question....

Space is now a huge factor in the design of this room. So now I need to get in-wall rear speakers and I do not know what to get that would compliment my two new front speakers, while fitting into my budget of $200. I'd like to stick with the same brand, but my budget doesn't work with PSB's in-wall speakers, so any suggestions?

My receiver is a Yamaha, RX-V595a and I listen to a lot of music, however, movies are starting to now be played a lot on the new plasma...
post #165 of 4609
Hi all,

I am converting a smallish den (12x11) to a home theater. I can fit three seats in the rear against the wall and the view distance will be about 9.5 feet to the plasma screen. I currently have a set of PSB Stratus (2 fronts, center and 2 rears) that I used in a larger room. My problem is that there isn't any room to the sides to place the rear speakers on stands and if they are behind the seating they would literally be next to the viewer's head.


What would you recommend?

Thanks,

Brownie
post #166 of 4609
Brownie, since this is a HT- and not so much a Music listening room?? However, PSB really are Music speakers. Do you listen to 2ch or SACD/A?? if you want HT primary, look at dipoles- you have more options in placement....
db
PSB SiliverI and C6i
post #167 of 4609
DAB,

First off, let me say I am quite a novice in this area, but these speakers were purchased initially for a larger familyroom and were used for both music and TV. I also need to correct the model. They are Image (5Ts Fronts, 2Bs rears, 9C center) Are these ok for home theater? (I will be watching some DVD concerts, but mostly movies and sports.)

Thanks,

Brownie
post #168 of 4609
Quote: DAB,

First off, let me say I am quite a novice in this area, but these speakers were purchased initially for a larger familyroom and were used for both music and TV. I also need to correct the model. They are Image (5Ts Fronts, 2Bs rears, 9C center) Are these ok for home theater? (I will be watching some DVD concerts, but mostly movies and sports.)

Thanks,

Brownie
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Well, I have to say that PSB makes excellent HT speakers . Your 5T, 2Bs and 9Cs will work great if you had room to place your 2b's behind you. My suggestion would be to purchase the PSB S50 (http://www.psbspeakers.com/product.php?pId=19&sId=3) or the 10s, which are pretty much the same thing as the S50 but are from same time period as your 5t's.

The S50/10s' would be placed on the side wall toward the back...but that renders your 2b's worthless unless you use them in another room.

A second option, that I have used : With a couch or seating directly against a back wall. Slide the couch away from the wall just far enough to fit the 2b's behind them. Face the 2b's upward toward the ceiling. Move the 2b's out closer to the corners of the room or to the farthest extents of the couch. By facing them toward the ceiling you get reflections off the back wall and the ceiling which then disperses the sound and spreads it out over a larger area. This option still gives pretty good surround functions from these speakers, and maximizes your viewing distance in small rooms . Keeps the sound behind you for the most part and off to the sides. Place the tweeters toward the inside when orientating the 2b's.

Hope this helps.

TREVOR
post #169 of 4609
The 10s/s50 bi-polar design is meant to disperse the sound and not allow for as much directional sound so it is harder to pin-point exactly where the sound is coming from but in that general direction.

By having the 2b's reflect off the ceiling and wall you get the dispersion effect AND some directional .
post #170 of 4609
Thanks for the excellent suggestions. Moving the couches forward isn't an option as the view distance will be too short. Also, the doorway is to the side of the couch. I phoned a local PSB dealer and he suggested doing in ceiling speakers. (C-160s) Would that work?

Thanks,

Brownie
post #171 of 4609
I should clarify- i use my PSB for both Music and living room HT- they handle both wonderfully. My rears are 6'& 4' from PLP. But only 3' from the end of sofia. and Sofia is 1' from back wall- in a acoustically challenged living room. But the system sound lovely. in a 17x20 room
db
post #172 of 4609
Just a correction. The speakers are CW-160s. There are also in wall CW 260s. Any thoughts on these as ceiling rears for a 5.1 set-up?

Thanks,


Brownie
post #173 of 4609
I currently have Axiom speakers, with the M22s as fronts. I've always had an itch to upgrade to towers. I've tried the M50s, but didn't really care for them. I am currently considering the PSB t45 and changing the center channel to whatever PSB center matches the T45's. I am considering this not because I don't like my Axioms, but simply because I could get the T45's and the center for less than upgrading to Axioms M60s. I'm not sure if the T45s/T55s are much of an upgrade vs the Axiom M22s. Would I disappointed if I made this move? Thanks for your responses.
post #174 of 4609
I can get the C40 for $150 from a friend, then sell my existing 8C somewhere. Would it make sense? Would the C40 sound nicer than th 8C? FYI, my setup includes PSB Image 4Ts in front, 2Bs in back, and a Subsonic 5. I've always thought the 8C sounded a tad weaker than the rest of the setup.

Thanks!
post #175 of 4609
Can anyone say whether PSB dealers deal on price at all?
For example, with Paradigm's there's a pretty consistent 10% discount off MSRP from dealers.
I'm wondering if there's a similar unwritten rule for PSBs.

Thanks,


Mitch
post #176 of 4609
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Originally Posted by Mitch G View Post

Can anyone say whether PSB dealers deal on price at all?
For example, with Paradigm's there's a pretty consistent 10% discount off MSRP from dealers.
I'm wondering if there's a similar unwritten rule for PSBs.

We sell PSB speakers at the store I work at, and there is no unwritten rule regarding discounting them. (At least not one we know of. )
post #177 of 4609
Just a heads up. PSB has added the new G series Stratus speakers to their product pages. Here's a link:

Stratus Series \\

I'm anxious to see what the second Stratus series will be like.

Scott
post #178 of 4609
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Originally Posted by pick42 View Post

I can get the C40 for $150 from a friend, then sell my existing 8C somewhere. Would it make sense? Would the C40 sound nicer than th 8C? FYI, my setup includes PSB Image 4Ts in front, 2Bs in back, and a Subsonic 5. I've always thought the 8C sounded a tad weaker than the rest of the setup.

Thanks!

It would only make sense if you could sell your 8C for more than $150 and the C40 was in better condition than your 8C.

For all intents and purposes the C40 is identical to the 8C. The C40 uses the same size and type of driver, same dimensions, and pretty much everything else. PSB just really made a visual upgrade to the image series and changed the nomenclature that went with each speaker. Colors are different etc.

TREVOR
post #179 of 4609
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Originally Posted by FoeHammer865 View Post

For all intents and purposes the C40 is identical to the 8C. The C40 uses the same size and type of driver, same dimensions, and pretty much everything else. PSB just really made a visual upgrade to the image series and changed the nomenclature that went with each speaker.
TREVOR

That's not entirely true... At CEDIA, one of the PSB engineers told me that the C40 woofer cone is lighter and injection molded; 8C was vacuum formed. The tweeter design was tweaked. The crossover was re-designed to take advantage of the better drivers. The 8C uses straight port tubes whereas the C40 uses curves ports which eliminate port resonances that show up as dips in the frequency response.

Other than that, they're functionally identical.
post #180 of 4609
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Originally Posted by Sphinx360 View Post

That's not entirely true... At CEDIA, one of the PSB engineers told me that the C40 woofer cone is lighter and injection molded; 8C was vacuum formed. The tweeter design was tweaked. The crossover was re-designed to take advantage of the better drivers. The 8C uses straight port tubes whereas the C40 uses curves ports which eliminate port resonances that show up as dips in the frequency response.

Other than that, they're functionally identical.

Great to hear that. I'm sure everything you say is accurate. Problem is most of the dealers I have talked to are clueless to those facts and would repeat what I had said .

But for all intents and purposes, I think the responses you're going to get from the newer images are going to be very similar in most respects to the "older" models when matching them with other speakers and such.

Thanks for the info .

TREVOR
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