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post #4111 of 5482
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Originally Posted by Pat315 View Post

I'm going to audition some psb's not sure if I should go with bookshelf's or towers. My room is approximately 15' x 14'. I have a sub, my receiver is a Yamaha RX 773. What do u guys recommend, my budget is around 1500 to 2000. Will also buy center in near future. Sg is very important and ht also.

Since you already have the sub, go with the bookshelf of the line that is about the same price as the tower from the lower line. For example Imagine Bs instead of Image T5s or maybe even Synchrony Two Bs at their current prices over Image T6s.
post #4112 of 5482
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Originally Posted by justindo View Post

Thanks for your impressions. I'm not surprised the NAD the ate the Denon for lunch, as NAD is very musical in comparison, although they don't mess with a lot of features.

I find it interesting, however, that you weren't impressed with the Bryston compared to NAD, as I think PSB with NAD is a bit on the warm side
(which is not a bad thing by any means, but not quite neutral) with slightly flabby bass. I've always found Bryston to be a great match with PSB, as the former is on the bright side of neutral with a tremendous grip on the bass while latter is on the warm side of neutral with slightly flabby bass. As for the "odd" layout with the Bryston, this shouldn't be a problem as decent interconnects aren't connected and even if you did have ones together you could just pull them apart.

From everything I have read the digital NAD amps have a different presentation compared to their class A/B brothers.
post #4113 of 5482
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Originally Posted by Pat315 View Post

I'm going to audition some psb's not sure if I should go with bookshelf's or towers. My room is approximately 15' x 14'. I have a sub, my receiver is a Yamaha RX 773. What do u guys recommend, my budget is around 1500 to 2000. Will also buy center in near future. Sg is very important and ht also.

Audition both and when you find one you prefer to the others check these sites out for a price. They both sell b-stock for a nice price.

https://dmc-electronics.com/Default.htm

http://www.saturdayaudio.com/picturepages/psb_bstock.htm
post #4114 of 5482
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by LoveHomeTheatre View Post

Hello,



My bedroom setup consists of 2 PSB Image B6's and 1 SVS PB-1000 Subwoofer attached to a Denon 1713 receiver. PC can handle any game at 1080p, max settings at least 60 fps. Uses are Gaming, Movies, and Music (50%, 30%, 20%). I'm looking to expand to a 5.1 setup, my main question resides on what to use as rear speakers. In the picture, the circles designate listening areas (the biggest being the main). I was thinking of getting bipole speakers, PSB Image S5, I know they would be great for movies but what about games? I mostly play FPS and RPG's where surrounds will help a lot.

Thanks.

Unless you want to go 7.1 i would just get bookshelf's. I think those S5's can be wired as the side and rear channels thus saving you some coin if you are wanting a 7.1 set up. But if you are doing 5.1 just get some Image B4's
post #4115 of 5482
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by justindo View Post

Thanks for your impressions. I'm not surprised the NAD the ate the Denon for lunch, as NAD is very musical in comparison, although they don't mess with a lot of features.

I find it interesting, however, that you weren't impressed with the Bryston compared to NAD, as I think PSB with NAD is a bit on the warm side (which is not a bad thing by any means, but not quite neutral) with slightly flabby bass. I've always found Bryston to be a great match with PSB, as the former is on the bright side of neutral with a tremendous grip on the bass while latter is on the warm side of neutral with slightly flabby bass. As for the "odd" layout with the Bryston, this shouldn't be a problem as decent interconnects aren't connected and even if you did have ones together you could just pull them apart.


I guess I didn't give the Bryston a fair shake. But since the cables I was using for the demo where nice Audioquest interconnects and they where not mine I couldn't in good conscience cut them ;-(
Not that the Bryston didn't sound good. It just, IMO was not worth the extra $2000. When I was told the price I couldn't believe it! The build quality was practically the same as the cheaper NAD and peachtree and although the sound was nice, I couldn't recommend it to anyone.

I think the purpose for the demo was to compair NAD product against others in their price point and above. Some time the comparison was close but the NADs where much less expensive, and sometimes the NADs where a little more money but clearly sounded much nicer.
post #4116 of 5482
Just inquiring again about any PSB owners using vertical centre channels.

Is anyone here using a PSB tower speaker such as a T45, T55 or T65 (or older 4T, 5T or 6T) as a centre channel?

How is it working for you?

Have you compared it to a conventional horizontal MTM centre channel speaker?

I am currently using my C60 vertically and the sound is great, but I would prefer a matching tower as my centre channel has to be pointed up and due to furniture (coffee table) etc. It's not ideal because the tweeter and one of the midrange speakers is lower than I'd like. Ideally, with a T55 or T65, the tweeter and midrange speaker would be higher, essentially the same height or close to the same height as my T65 towers. I keep looking for a pair of image T55 or T65 (the 2nd gen Image 2 and a half way design with the tweeter up top). I would split with another person if it's sensible enough.
Edited by cpc - 1/22/13 at 7:50am
post #4117 of 5482
Hooked everything up last night. WOW Nice clean sound it fills the entire house. Lol
post #4118 of 5482
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Originally Posted by cpc 
Just inquiring again about any PSB owners using vertical centre channels.

Is anyone here using a PSB tower speaker such as a T45, T55 or T65 (or older 4T, 5T or 6T) as a centre channel?

How is it working for you?

Have you compared it to a conventional horizontal MTM centre channel speaker?

I am currently using my C60 vertically and the sound is great, but I would prefer a matching tower as my centre channel has to be pointed up and due to furniture (coffee table) etc. It's not ideal because the tweeter and one of the midrange speakers is lower than I'd like. Ideally, with a T55 or T65, the tweeter and midrange speaker would be higher, essentially the same height or close to the same height as my T65 towers. I keep looking for a pair of image T55 or T65 (the 2nd gen Image 2 and a half way design with the tweeter up top). I would split with another person if it's sensible enough.


I am using a Stratus Silver tower as my center. It compliments my Stratus Golds very well. I tried many different "center" channel speakers and none did the job like a tower does. My next move may be to go ahead and get a third Stratus Gold tower and incorporate it as my center.

Here is a photo of the TV stand I built to accomodate the tower speaker center. The TV is a 60". This photo was taken back when I was using a Stratus Bronze as my center.


Edited by Torqdog - 1/22/13 at 10:22am
post #4119 of 5482
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

I am using a Stratus Silver tower as my center. It compliments my Stratus Golds very well. I tried many different "center" channel speakers and none did the job like a tower does. My next move may be to go ahead and get a third Stratus Gold tower and incorporate it as my center.

Here is a photo of the TV stand I built to accomodate the tower speaker center. The TV is a 60". This photo was taken back when I was using a Stratus Bronze as my center.


Awesome. That is exactly what I am talking about. Thanks for the photo and feedback. I am not alone...lol.

How tall is that stand? I guess I could research the height of a PSB stratuc bronse. I will post a picture my current setup. Still searching for a T55 or T65 to match but I would even make a franken speaker so that it is shorter. Basically, I wish this gen had a 3LR with the 6.5" drivers. That would be THE perfect vertical centre channel speaker.
post #4120 of 5482
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Originally Posted by cpc View Post

Awesome. That is exactly what I am talking about. Thanks for the photo and feedback. I am not alone...lol.

How tall is that stand? I guess I could research the height of a PSB stratuc bronse. I will post a picture my current setup. Still searching for a T55 or T65 to match but I would even make a franken speaker so that it is shorter. Basically, I wish this gen had a 3LR with the 6.5" drivers. That would be THE perfect vertical centre channel speaker.
I built the stand to VERY close tolerances of 1/16th of an inch more than the total height of the speaker. Once you have fabricated your top and bottom wood planks, all one need do to change the height is to cut 4 new sections of 1 1/2 inch conduit and the supporting threaded bar that holds it all together. The wooden planks were the hardest to locate.........I simply had to drive to Lowes. LOL

If you are indeed going to go the route of a matching center speaker, do try to get one identical to your FR/FL monitors.
post #4121 of 5482
Today my right psb b6 bookshelf speaker stopped working. Sund comes out the tweeter just not the woofer. When pushing on the woofer it makes a plasticy sound. When pushing on the good woofer it is silent.

Also took the bad woofer out and did the 9 volt test. It only make a click. No movement.

Any ideas. I bought these sealed in box from a member here. He bought them from dmc electronics. I am devastated right now. I love these speakers!!
post #4122 of 5482
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

Today my right psb b6 bookshelf speaker stopped working. Sund comes out the tweeter just not the woofer. When pushing on the woofer it makes a plasticy sound. When pushing on the good woofer it is silent.

Also took the bad woofer out and did the 9 volt test. It only make a click. No movement.

Any ideas. I bought these sealed in box from a member here. He bought them from dmc electronics. I am devastated right now. I love these speakers!!

I would think that you could purchase a replacement driver directly from PSB Tech Support.
post #4123 of 5482
DMV electronics is sending me a new driver under warranty. I'll let you know how it goes. Should take 2 weeks
post #4124 of 5482
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

DMV electronics is sending me a new driver under warranty. I'll let you know how it goes. Should take 2 weeks

Warranty replacement is even better!
post #4125 of 5482
Wonder how much a new driver would be if not covered under warranty
post #4126 of 5482
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

Wonder how much a new driver would be if not covered under warranty

Maybe $50 - $60...
post #4127 of 5482
Not too bad. Good to know. Thanks
post #4128 of 5482
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

DMV electronics is sending me a new driver under warranty. I'll let you know how it goes. Should take 2 weeks

Wow your lucky, As PSB's warranty is not transferable and only available when bought new from an authorized dealer. Score!
post #4129 of 5482
guess i dodged a bullet. although technically they were bought bnib from a dealer (I have the original receipt) and they were never opened
post #4130 of 5482
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

guess i dodged a bullet. although technically they were bought bnib from a dealer (I have the original receipt) and they were never opened

I have heard people get turned down for warranty for something similar. (although it was not PSB)
PSB Seems to work with people outside the actual rules. Like a warranty issue a few months after it actually expired.

But if your name was not on the invoice, they could have turned you down. In your case it makes no difference to DMC as they will get reimbursed by PSB for your part. But things like this might eventually turn up in a "cost of doing business" price hike.
post #4131 of 5482
gotcha!! ya know i searched everywhere on the PSB site and it doesn't say what the warranty actually is ANYWHERE...was quite frustratiing
post #4132 of 5482
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

gotcha!! ya know i searched everywhere on the PSB site and it doesn't say what the warranty actually is ANYWHERE...was quite frustratiing

nothing really official
but
http://www.psbspeakers.com/buying-tips
post #4133 of 5482
I thought I'd drop by to show off my new little gem speakers otherwise known as imagine mini....

Very impressed so far

DSC_0265_1.jpg
post #4134 of 5482
Looking to join this club smile.gif Went and listened to the Image T6's and I kinda fell in love with them. I'll probably end up with the Image C5 center to match the towers but I'm still kind of undecided on the sub. I was able to listen to the Subseries 300 while I was at the dealer but a lot of people keep recommending the HSU VTF-3 MK4. I don't know where I could go to listen to one though. Any recommendations before I flip a coin?
post #4135 of 5482
Psa xv15. It's 799 shipped and a best of a sub. It's the equivalent of a svs pb12+ ( which retails for 1199)
post #4136 of 5482
Anyone have a set of image s5's that they could part with? Pm me with details
post #4137 of 5482
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Originally Posted by Tacklebary View Post

Anyone have a set of image s5's that they could part with? Pm me with details

i wish these weren't so expensive. I would love to have the full matching 5 speaker set...just cant justify spending more on the surrounds than the mains frown.gif
post #4138 of 5482
Yes I completely agree with you about the price of the S5's! I want to add them as the side surrounds in my setup and appreciate that they can be mounted flush with the wall. Hoping that someone my be willing to part with them as part of an upgrade perhaps?
post #4139 of 5482
Any of you compared the Imagine T2 to the b&w cm9, Salk supercharged song tower, dynaudio focus 260? Any thoughts?

Initially I will be powering with my Yamaha v1700. How sensitive are the t2 to wall placement? Putting them in the middle of room doesn't work for the wife lol. Can pull them out 12-18 inches if necessary.
Would consider used synchrony ones as well
post #4140 of 5482
I was into the audio store again last night to do some listening. I am still torn between the Image or Imagine lines and figured more listening couldn't hurt. I wanted to hear the Imagine T2 towers, unfortunately they did not have any to listen to. I was able to A/B some Image B6 and Imagine B speakers. The Image B6 sounded very good, but once the Imagines were on it was no comparison. The sound on the Imagine B was much wider and a bit more detailed. After listening to there's I asked him to switch over to the T6 towers. The T6 were impressive compared to either of the others (as to be expected comparing a tower to a bookshelf), but they did sound a tiny bit boomy in the mid bass. In the other room he had the Imagine T towers, they sounded excellent. The small drivers were putting out a health amount of very detailed bass with excellent detail. This session didn't allow me to listen to the Imagine T2, but it made me think that the Imagine T towers would suit me fine, and the T2 towers could only sound better still.

I asked the shop owner for his opinions on the different towers, he said in the under $2000 range he sold a lot of the PSB T5 and T6, but above that price point he sold more B&W CM8 and CM9 over the Imagine towers. He suggested I come back and A/B the Imagine T and the CM8 when I had more time. His take was that for mostly HT and some music the T6 and matching Image speakers would be great, but for more critical music listening the next step up was going to be worth the extra money. I forced an opinion out of him, he said he personally preferred the CM9 to the T2 towers.

Whatever I buy will be powered by my NAD T757.
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