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post #421 of 4600
11/14/07 at 5:51am
Hello everyone... just order this setup for my basement.

Front: T55
Ceneter: C60
Rear: B25
Sub: 6i

Powered by the Yamaha RXV-3800

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post #422 of 4600
11/14/07 at 6:20pm
Let your own ears decide. On paper, should sound like a great system. Enjoy your PSB speakers and report back on your findings.
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post #423 of 4600
11/15/07 at 9:45am
Hi everyone. I'm new to PSB speakers....actually new to any system above 2.0 and am pretty much a noob. Currently been using Tannoy Active studio monitors for a 2.0 setup. I know, not ideal. But better than the TV speakers.
I have on order the Image C60 center and Image T45 towers which will arrive tomorrow so can't comment yet.
But my friend has a PSB setup, Image C40, Image B25 for mains, Image B15 for surrounds and the 5i sub. I love how his PSBs sounds, hence started putting together my PSB system.
My question is on a reciever that will match well with the speakers. I'm looking at the Onkyo 605. I like the features it has for the price. I have a 10% discount at CC so can get it for about $400. I've read through a lot on this thread and didn't notice too many people using an Onkyo. Anyone think this reciever will be just fine with the PSBs?
I'll be getting a sub soon, looking at the PSB 6i or the SVS PB10-NSD.
Also will be getting surrounds soon, trying to decide on the PSB Image S50 or Image B25.
My room size is 11.75' x 16.75'.
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post #424 of 4600
11/15/07 at 10:17am
I am also in a similar boat. I have an opportunity to get a great deal on the following package:

Fronts: Image Series T55
Surround: Image S50
Center: Platinum C2


The sub has not been considered yet. Is there a certain type of receiver that I should be looking at in order to get the best sound quality from these.

Thanks in advance
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post #425 of 4600
11/15/07 at 12:17pm
Ill be using the Yahama RX-V3800 to power my system. Let us know how everything sounds.
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post #426 of 4600
11/15/07 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by cockyoda View Post

Hello everyone... just order this setup for my basement.

Front: T55
Ceneter: C60
Rear: B25
Sub: 6i

Powered by the Yamaha RXV-3800

Comments??

Thanks

I am driving the same speakers with a Denon 4308CI. I just added a Toshiba HD-A3 to the mix and the Dolby True HD track on 300 blew me away. The speakers do not fatigue my ears like others do and I'm really enjoying them, especially after the AVR upgrade. I will most likely buy another pair of B25's for 7.1 at Christmas

PS, spend a few bucks at Blue Jeans Cable and get a nice set of Belden 10 or 12 gauge speaker cables with locking banana plugs, don't go for the overpriced stuff the B&M types sell.

Cheers,

jr
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post #427 of 4600
11/16/07 at 12:49pm
Front: Alpha B1 Monitor
Center: Alpha C1 Center
Surrounds: Alpha LR1 Monitor
Subwoofer: Velodyne DLS-3750R
Reciever: Yamaha RX-V661
Console/Player: XBOX 360 Elite w/HDDVD add-on
Power Conditioner: APC H15BLK
TV: Sony 60" SXRD Rear Projection HDTV

This is my first home audio/theater setup, but it absolutely blows my mind how good it sounds(and looks). Nobody can believe the amount of quality sound that comes out of those bookshelves, and the whole system makes movies come alive. And for not much $ either. Couldn't be happier, I am a PSB fan for life!
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post #428 of 4600
11/19/07 at 6:33am
This will be my setup when all said and done.


Front: T55
Ceneter: C60
Rear: B25
Sub: 6i
Receiver: Yamaha RXV-3800
Console: Elite 360 w/HD DVD
TV: Mitsubishi 65” Diamond DLP
Beldin 10" and 12" wire
Power Conditioner: MP HTS5100 MKII
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post #429 of 4600
11/19/07 at 2:35pm
Hey - i'm new to the posting but glad to see PSB's enjoyed broadly. I just moved and my new home has a dedicated HT room in the basement - about 21ft by 21ft and 9ft high. I have a cobbled PSB system - bought fronts - 800's and rears - alpha's about 13yrs ago. Added the Image 6 Subwoofer and Image 8C center about 4yrs ago. My A/V receiver is an Onkyo TX DS797 purchased 5yrs ago. I am planning a 133in screen with a Sony Pearl projector.

I have a bunch of questions sorry and thanks in the same breadth....

Should I invest in a new matched set of speakers. They seem ok to me and wondering how much the technology has changed - and whether my ears would be able to tell. Do these speakers I have match up fairly well?

What would the best placement be for the fronts. And then when I have them in that spot, where and how many sound absorbing panels should I put up - have tried to search on this but it is confusing.

The fronts, center, Sub and components will all be hidden behind some type of fabric - any thoughts on what fabric to use - is it really that critical?

The rears will be mounted on the side walls just behind the seating. But my wife doesn;t really like that they will be visible. Any perspective on what a good matching in wall speaker will be for this. Also, I don;t plan on using back speakers at this time but if I get in wall sides installed, maybe I should have the rears installed at the same time - would you use the same speakers?

Well that's it for now - although I am sure I will have more questions. Thanks for indulging me.

rick
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post #430 of 4600
11/20/07 at 8:33am
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Originally Posted by 1rick1 View Post

Hey - i'm new to the posting but glad to see PSB's enjoyed broadly. I just moved and my new home has a dedicated HT room in the basement - about 21ft by 21ft and 9ft high. I have a cobbled PSB system - bought fronts - 800's and rears - alpha's about 13yrs ago. Added the Image 6 Subwoofer and Image 8C center about 4yrs ago. My A/V receiver is an Onkyo TX DS797 purchased 5yrs ago. I am planning a 133in screen with a Sony Pearl projector.

I have a bunch of questions sorry and thanks in the same breadth....

Should I invest in a new matched set of speakers. They seem ok to me and wondering how much the technology has changed - and whether my ears would be able to tell. Do these speakers I have match up fairly well?

What would the best placement be for the fronts. And then when I have them in that spot, where and how many sound absorbing panels should I put up - have tried to search on this but it is confusing.

The fronts, center, Sub and components will all be hidden behind some type of fabric - any thoughts on what fabric to use - is it really that critical?

The rears will be mounted on the side walls just behind the seating. But my wife doesn;t really like that they will be visible. Any perspective on what a good matching in wall speaker will be for this. Also, I don;t plan on using back speakers at this time but if I get in wall sides installed, maybe I should have the rears installed at the same time - would you use the same speakers?

Well that's it for now - although I am sure I will have more questions. Thanks for indulging me.

rick


I don't really have any advice on whether you should upgrade. I just have the Alpha series and don't know how it could get any better sounding, (most likely because I havent demoed any better speakers).

Anyway, the thing that I was going to comment on was your room accoustics. You have a perfectly square room, which is the worst for accoustics. I would suggest, if you dont have another option for a ht room, getting some accoustic treatments for that room that will help with your dimension problem. I think that will go a long way.
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post #431 of 4600
11/20/07 at 2:29pm
I am not familiar with your PSB speakers, as I'm new to them so I can't really give advice on upgrading either. But I just got some of my speakers over the weekend:
Fronts: Image T45
Center: Image C60
and I think they sound great. Watching some movies (satellite HD) over the weekend and I couldn't believe how much sound I was missing. I can clearly hear dialogue without blasting the volume. Watching some Braveheart was fantastic. Thumps from the horses galloping/walking was awesome, doesn't sound like they were tap dancing anymore. The clearness of the metal on metal and tons of other little sounds I thought never existed just stood out. This is compared to just using a pair studio monitors before, which were ok, but if I knew I was missing this much I would have upgraded long ago.
Can't wait till my Sub and Surrounds come next week! Stupid holiday.
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post #432 of 4600
11/21/07 at 3:27pm
I was hoping you guys could provide direct comparisons pro/cons of the PSB T45 v T55 v T65.

There's a local dealer (also a member of AVS) who I can get PSB from. There's also a local dealer that carries paradigm. To top it all off I'm also debating between the Swan 6.1's.

But for this thread I'm really hoping some guys can post differences (not physical differences but sonic differences) between the 45/55/65. I will conduct an extensive audition of the T45 this weekend as a friend of mine just bought a pair and we're staying the weekend with them. Thanks in advance.
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post #433 of 4600
11/21/07 at 7:13pm
Hi everyone,

its neat to see other people getting the same set up I am considering. I just sent for a quote to get the following:

PSB speakers ---- Image series: T55 (pair)
B15 (pair)
C40 (single)
sub series 5i (maybe the subseries 8)
Finish: Maple

A/V reciever Yamaha RX-V1800 or Denon 2808CI

Any advice from anyone who sees me making a huge mistake? I am torn between these, Axioms and RBH - MC6 series.

Will Yamaha have any problems powering these?
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post #434 of 4600
11/21/07 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by nsguy View Post

Hi everyone,

its neat to see other people getting the same set up I am considering. I just sent for a quote to get the following:

PSB speakers ---- Image series: T55 (pair)
B15 (pair)
C40 (single)
sub series 5i (maybe the subseries 8)
Finish: Maple

A/V reciever Yamaha RX-V1800 or Denon 2808CI

Any advice from anyone who sees me making a huge mistake? I am torn between these, Axioms and RBH - MC6 series.

Will Yamaha have any problems powering these?

Why not go with the C60 centre channel speaker? The T55's use 6.5 inch woofers which the C60 also uses. The C40 uses 5.25 inch woofers. I'd try and keep everything in the front soundstage (L/C/R) the same as possible. I have the older Image series speakers consisting of the 5T, 9C and 10S. My system sounds fanatastic.

The Yamaha will have no problem powering the PSB's.

Just my 2 cents.
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post #435 of 4600
11/21/07 at 8:22pm
fuzzybk....Thanks for the advice! Never thought about that. I sent the request for a quote through a reputable distributor and hopefully he'll catch that too and offer the same advice. If not, I'll make sure to make the adjustment on the officila order sheet. I am glad to see that the Yamaha will support it. I know several people have said that the Denon and these speakers go well together but I seem biased to the Yamaha's and I hoping they'll sound really good (or just as good) as with a Denon....

I'll let you guys know once I hav'em
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post #436 of 4600
11/22/07 at 7:07am
Anyone else have the CH-80's? I'm using them across my front and they are amazing. They just get better and better.
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post #437 of 4600
11/25/07 at 8:57pm
Off topic question...

I have a pair of PSB Stratus Golds that I want to sell and I have no idea what they're worth now. They are in mint condition in the original boxes...

Thanks for any and all advice...

Ryan
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post #438 of 4600
12/3/07 at 4:44pm
Can someone recomend a 5.1 In-Ceiling / In Wall setup on a budget of $1500?
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post #439 of 4600
12/8/07 at 12:58pm
Recently found a special from Saturday Audio for PSB Image series, but only Maple. Auditioned them locally and did like their sound, but did audition them at the typical acoustic room from a high end audio dealer, so little bit aprehensive about their performance under normal conditions in a family room (12' x 15' x 12') with a main listening position at approx. 7 to 8 ft. from the front/center speakers, rears would be at angled down at approx. 7 ft. high, on a back wall about 4 ft. behind. No space to install in the side walls.

Just like many of you they will be used mostly for HT, but I believe that a good set of speakers with a great sub makes any movie sound good. So, I rather go for the music performance, and from what I heard I liked the T45's for music, actually more than the T55's. Right now I have an older 8" 150W Sub that will be upgraded in the coming months, probably to a 10" sub.

Anyways ordered a set of T45's, C40, and B15's, but the B15's were out of stock, so they offered B25's at no extra charge; cool! I might keep the B25's for my bedroom, and buy other bookshelves for surrounds.

The only thing is that with freight I saved about $350.00 from what the local dealer wanted, as my wife didn't like the maple's and wanted black. The maples were the ones on special, and I would have saved about $250.00 more. I arranged shipping as I have very good rates with different carriers.

Anyways, what are your thoughts on this package, it will not influence my decision, as already purchased, but all the reviews I have seen about this speakers are great and want to confirm with people that actually own same or similar set up. Also, any recommendations for a sub that pairs well with these speakers, looking to spend no more than $500-600 for it.
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post #440 of 4600
12/8/07 at 1:02pm
PR I think you've got a good system. A friend of mine just purchased the T45s and they sound fantastic. I've only heard the T55's once and I felt the midrange was a bit more forward with them and as such I will probably wind up with the T55's if I go PSB.

Also keep in mind that everyone will have a different preference. I would like to know why you prefer the T45 to the T55 for music?



Also, on another note, guys I've officially ruled out Klipsch. I will be taking a day off in Jan to audition some PSB's and once again Paradigm Monitor 9s.

How do you guys feel about the T55 vs the Monitor 9? Which speaker is warmer? Which is brighter? I would assume that there are a few with experience with both.
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post #441 of 4600
12/8/07 at 2:27pm
Nice one PR, let us know what they sound like.

I'm about to plunge into the PSB pool myself, but since the fronts will face the deep side of a 20x45ft open plan living dining room area i'll probably go for the T65's with a C60.

My question is on side surrounds. Why do people use the bookshelves instead of the S50 surrounds?
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post #442 of 4600
12/8/07 at 2:46pm
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post

Also keep in mind that everyone will have a different preference. I would like to know why you prefer the T45 to the T55 for music?

I ruled out Klipsch.

How do you guys feel about the T55 vs the Monitor 9? Which speaker is warmer? Which is brighter? I would assume that there are a few with experience with both.

I prefered the T45, because I wanted a balanced system for music and movies, but emphasizing in music. The T55's had somewhat more bass, but to my ear not much difference, and nothing that could be corrected with a subwoofer, which most of us who have HT systems have. So why pay more for a minimum difference in HZ when it comes to the numbers. IMO, the T55 was not as detailed, but that was my apreciation, which might be different from yours.

Klipsch was my first choice, but I had only auditioned them for a short time, when I auditioned for a longer time, I grew tired of such a bright sound.

My local PSB dealer is also a Paradigm, and JM Focus dealer but don't know why I didn't even considered Paradigm, and my wife didn't like the look of the JM's in the same price range. Maybe I didn't consider Paradigm because I was so set in getting Monitor Audio, but when found the PSB special on the internet, well it was a no brainer for my bank account. I only paid little less than $1K for the T45/C40/B25 package, all brand new; the catch is that they had to be Maple. Which can allow me to upgrade in a year or two, if needed to, and not feel guilty.
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post #443 of 4600
12/8/07 at 2:55pm
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Originally Posted by dotVIBE View Post

I'm about to plunge into the PSB pool myself, but since the fronts will face the deep side of a 20x45ft open plan living dining room area i'll probably go for the T65's with a C60.

My question is on side surrounds. Why do people use the bookshelves instead of the S50 surrounds?

In my case I already have a pair of dipoles, and they sound great for movies, as the sound dispersion is very nice. I am keeping them, just in case. But, I went with bookshelfs, as I enjoy multi-channel music (DVD-A and SACD), and the bookshelfs offer a better imaging and sound, when it comes to music. And since, they upgraded my B15's to B25's at no extra charge, the B25's may end up as mains in my living room or bedroom, as my receiver is multi-zone (Marantz SR-5001), and the dipoles would stay as rears. In your case, being a room so large maybe the S50's will not be such a good choice, as bookshelves in stands might be, you might want to see if your dealer will loan you a pair of each, so you can do an at home comparison; is the best way to find out.

I would have recommended you to check the place I bought my PSB's from, as the price is unbeatable for maple color, but the T65 and C60 was not in the special, only T45/55 and C40. The S50 was not on sale either. But, check their pricing (www.saturdayaudio.com), so you can negotiate a better deal with your local dealer.
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post #444 of 4600
12/10/07 at 6:36pm
[quote=dotVIBE;12436397]Nice one PR, let us know what they sound like.
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They are being shipped tomorrow, at first I was going to use an inland/ocean freight carrier like Roadway, Yellow, Conway, Fedex Freight, etc., at a shipping charge of $238.00 door to door from Chicago, IL to San Juan, PR, with a transit time of 1-1/2 to 2 weeks. But, one of my regular air freight carriers quoted $190.00 for 3-4 days economic service, so I will have them here this Friday.
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post #445 of 4600
12/13/07 at 12:51am
Hi everyone,

I just bought an apartment, and I'm building a two channel system for it. I'm a little biased towards PSB speakers, and I'm looking at the image towers. I will use them mostly for music, but also for movies, and I don't intend to use a subwoofer. My living room is about 12' by 20', and the adjoining kitchen makes the space about 600 square feet.

I was wondering if anyone thinks that the towers will be overkill for a condo. I want to be respectful of my neighbours (hence the lack of a sub), but I do love clean tight bass.

Does anyone have any thoughts or recommendations? Who here is enjoying their image towers in a wood-frame apartment building?

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I've auditioned the T45s, and I quite liked them but would prefer a little more bass extension. I will listen to the T55s this weekend. I am interested in the T65s too, but I haven't found a place to audition them, and I'm not too keen on buying a speaker without listening to it first.
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post #446 of 4600
12/13/07 at 7:24am
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Originally Posted by 1rick1 View Post

Should I invest in a new matched set of speakers. They seem ok to me and wondering how much the technology has changed - and whether my ears would be able to tell. Do these speakers I have match up fairly well?

I would retire your 800's from the set up and move your alphas to the rear. keep your 6 sub (still good) next timber match your 8C with Image T65 Towersor Image T55 Tower Speakers

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Originally Posted by 1rick1 View Post

What would the best placement be for the fronts. And then when I have them in that spot, where and how many sound absorbing panels should I put up - have tried to search on this but it is confusing.

http://www.psbspeakers.com/audio-top...acement-Basics
http://www.psbspeakers.com/audio-top...acement-How-to
http://www.atsacoustics.com/page--Fr...ysis--ora.html

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Originally Posted by 1rick1 View Post


The rears will be mounted on the side walls just behind the seating. But my wife doesn;t really like that they will be visible. Any perspective on what a good matching in wall speaker will be for this. Also, I don;t plan on using back speakers at this time but if I get in wall sides installed, maybe I should have the rears installed at the same time - would you use the same speakers?

It is not that important to timber match your rears so any of the mid range or PSB's In-Wall Speakers would do just fine.
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post #447 of 4600
12/13/07 at 7:27am
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Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon View Post

Off topic question...

I have a pair of PSB Stratus Golds that I want to sell and I have no idea what they're worth now. They are in mint condition in the original boxes...

Thanks for any and all advice...

Ryan


You would be surprised that these held their value very well. If they are the Gold's then I would say around #2-500 if they are the goldi's then a bit more
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post #448 of 4600
12/13/07 at 7:57am
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Originally Posted by PR Audio View Post

Recently found a special from Saturday Audio for PSB Image series, but only Maple. Auditioned them locally and did like their sound, but did audition them at the typical acoustic room from a high end audio dealer, so little bit aprehensive about their performance under normal conditions in a family room (12' x 15' x 12') with a main listening position at approx. 7 to 8 ft. from the front/center speakers, rears would be at angled down at approx. 7 ft. high, on a back wall about 4 ft. behind. No space to install in the side walls.

Just like many of you they will be used mostly for HT, but I believe that a good set of speakers with a great sub makes any movie sound good. So, I rather go for the music performance, and from what I heard I liked the T45's for music, actually more than the T55's. Right now I have an older 8" 150W Sub that will be upgraded in the coming months, probably to a 10" sub.

Anyways ordered a set of T45's, C40, and B15's, but the B15's were out of stock, so they offered B25's at no extra charge; cool! I might keep the B25's for my bedroom, and buy other bookshelves for surrounds.

The only thing is that with freight I saved about $350.00 from what the local dealer wanted, as my wife didn't like the maple's and wanted black. The maples were the ones on special, and I would have saved about $250.00 more. I arranged shipping as I have very good rates with different carriers.

Anyways, what are your thoughts on this package, it will not influence my decision, as already purchased, but all the reviews I have seen about this speakers are great and want to confirm with people that actually own same or similar set up. Also, any recommendations for a sub that pairs well with these speakers, looking to spend no more than $500-600 for it.


I have heard this set up in the past when I bought my system. I ended up getting T55 instead if the T45's but the difference with a good sub is minimal. I bought the 5i Subwoofer but the 6i Subwoofer is a killer!
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post #449 of 4600
12/13/07 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by firebook23 View Post

I have heard this set up in the past when I bought my system. I ended up getting T55 instead if the T45's but the difference with a good sub is minimal. I bought the 5i Subwoofer but the 6i Subwoofer is a killer!

Exactly my point, I decided on getting T45's, not 55's, and saved around $150.00, which will be put into good use by using that money as part of the budget for a killer sub, HSU or SVS.

One thing to keep in mind, I live in the middle of Hurricane Alley, our houses are made with concrete inside and outside, not matchbox material like most of the construction in the mainland; no offense. My family room has concrete walls, concrete roof, and the floor is concrete with tiles. It is an acoustic nightmare, I was afraid that the T55's better bass extension would get in the middle of other sounds, and make the overall sound muddy. So, got the T45's, and I can play with bass levels on the subwoofer to to set it up the best way possible.
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post #450 of 4600
12/13/07 at 4:52pm
im considering buing a image b15 as a start for my new HT later on thay will be moved to the back as a surround. i have two questions

is PSB speakers (image) line more of music or HT ?

where is the best place to get PSB speakers i don't have any local dealers so it will have to me online i only like to black or sienna color.
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