PSB Speakers Owners thread - Page 23

Hi i had the professional to installed the wiring, they will know if a good location, and they are going in a corner in family with no back, open concept, oh just 2ft of back wall on both side..

You should be fine, plus it's just the rears. I haven't heard too much coming out of my rears, though when I did in the movie "Descent" it was phenomenal.

Indeed - another psb convert.

If someone looking for speakers ever listens to psb's, they invariably end up on the "short list" of choices. The sound quality to $$ relationship is very difficult to beat.

Then post pictures!!!!

Sorry, couldn't help myself.....

Hey all,

Here is my current set up: HK AVR 146; Mains: PSB Image B15
Rears: Panasonic Book shelves (old 7 years approx) no sub and no center.

I just got a gift cert to Audio Video 2001 for $200 and have another $350 to spend.

Heres my next question which of the following options would you do?
1. Buy a set of PSB Image B25's and move the B15's to the rears (B25's $420)

2. Buy a Center Channel PSB C40 Center Channel ($375)

3. Buy a Sub .... Not sure which kind though but it needs to be from this store

Or upset the Girl friend and Spend a little more cash and buy PSB t45's they cost about $800 dollars

If it makes any difference I can give the stores URL but Im not sure if I can or not lol But it will give the specs of the speakers and show the Sub's they sell.

Any help will be much appreciated.

I think it is pretty tough to upgrade the front speakers or just the center..they are all meant to match in timbre so you would be wise to stay with the same line i.e. if you upgrade one you would be wise to upgrade all three. I do not know if this is against posting rules..if it is I apologize but I saw a great deal on a package alpha system in your price range. It did not have ceiling speakers though..they call it the psb studio theater system..they had two packages one was a newer version of the 1st package and is a tad bit more expensive. The more expensive package is still under $900. For what its worth I would be a little nervous to get the alpha package. I have the original alpha mini for rear surrounds in my first ever home theater system. They are a great little speaker. I have not listened to the new Alpha tower but I think they are pretty much a Alpha with a built in stand..not really a true tower speaker. And you are saying your room is open lacking walls...I would want true tower speakers. I can't say anything on th subwoofer as I have a larger 6i and that kicks butt. I would imagine the 5i is pretty good. If you get the t45 you may find that too be plenty. Or you may want to go with the t45 and get a sub later to save money. You can easily upgrade to a sub later where its harder and more costly to start upgrading front and center speakers because you should match them all. You can pretty much throw any sub in the mix. Maybe check out the image t45. You can get some great deals on blems out there check around on the web....they usually are not major flaws..you can hardly notice and they still sound great. I know ultimately you have to stay in your budget. I know the feeling..if money was no object Id be in the Synchrony or platinum line. I have images and love them. I think as you move up the line they may sound a little better ...look alot better but cost ALOT more. Its all what feels comfy for you and your wallet.

thanks pr. i'm looking forward to the comparison. obviously sound quality is key but they will be prominantly placed so build quality and size are very important.

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I haven't heard the Synchrony line yet but I compared the S2 and M2 and S6 and T6 and I thought that they were all excellent but preferred the look of the Paradigms and sound of the PSB in each case. I may have been biased because I had heard or read that there was some midrange warmth on the Paradigms and that the PSB were flatter, and I preferred the midrange on the PSB. I also preferred PSB because they go lower in the bass. You need a sub with the Paradigms for classical music or you will miss some of the low end. I own the M2 and T6 so there is my bias, but I would not be unhappy with either one.

Anyone in need of a psb 6i sub pm me im in the Toronto area

Another option is going with b25s for fronts (they are better than alpha towers) a c40 for center and b15s for rears. Like I said earlier I think you could probably wait on the bub or get the bub and wait on the rears. I have seen b25s for $350 online so I imagine the b15s would be a good amount less.

Do you really think that the image b25 is better sounding than the t1 towers. I am considering the t1's, unfortunately my nearest showroom didn't have them available for listening. I heard the the bigger alpha bookshelfs, and the smallest image tower. Obviously the smaller image tower sounded better than the alpha bookshelf.

Hello, I have a Platinum Series C2 center that I am having a hard time finding a stand for. I thought about trying the Lovan Millennium M2 Center Channel Speaker Stand. I was just wondering if anyone has used this stand for the speaker before? If not, does anyone have any recommendations for a stand?
Thanks.

Try Sound Anchors. Google them. They make great stands, and can custom make pretty much anything you need.

I have the B25's and C40. Got them last week. I wish to add a surround speaker now. I am thinking of going with the LR1. I really don't need loud volumes as this is a system for the bedroom. Any advice would be appreciated. Oh, I also want to keep them smallish as the WAF is kicking in.

Yes, but he can compensate using the individual receiver settings for each speaker...

Originally Posted by PR Audio
1) Does anyone know anything about the PSB ceiling speakers? Are they as good as their other non-ceiling speakers? Or is there a another brand that has better ceiling speakers? PSB in-ceiling are as good as most reknown brands out there, good choice. Be advised that most in-ceiling perform sub-par compared to bookshelves, onwalls, or floor, but you are using them for rears, and they will work fine at that. The drawback is that the surround sound might be too direct, but you can adjust the speaker firing angle, which will help. Is there a particular PSB model you could recommend that falls within my budget?

jking...Missed what's your budget...advise.

2) I am planning on purchasing a Denon 2308ci but have decided to wait until Denon releases the 2008 models (supposedly this summer). Does PSB release speakers yearly with newer technology and improvements like AVR's? No, PSB does not release series improvements yearly, actually most speakers manufacturers don't. Why not 2308??? It is probable less expensive tha the new Denon's to be released, it is like a year old only, and I don't see any major tech improvements for the future series that will justify the higher price. I was told the next 2308 will have additional HDMI inputs (2 is too few) and many of the HD codecs that the 2308 is currently lacking.

Have you considered Marantz SR-4002 (3 HDMI In)???

3) If I am able to upgrade some of the Alpha's to the Image, what speaker(s) should I consider upgrading? All three fronts (L/C/R) Do you think the Image series is that much better that I should upgrade? Could I get a way with upgrading the just the Center or just the towers?

You could get away with it, yes...Is it recommendable, NO. Three speakers of the same series will have the same timbre match, which provides equal sound, and seamless changes from L to C to R.

4) Should I consider upgrading the sub to the 6i? What do you think of your current sub???
I currently don't have any avr/speakers/sub. I just wanted to know if you think the 5i sub is adequate for my room or in your opinion is the 6i a much better way to go.

5i will probably do, depends on your budget, PSB subs are not mentioned much due to the popularity of ID brands, but PSB makes some of the best subs out there.

Are you going to do acoustical tests??? From the information you gave, I don't think so. The 5001 (same I have) does not have a calibrating mic, therefore to calibrate you have to do it with an SPL, or by ear (not the best). To make life easy, install you side in-walls at 90 Deg. to 110 Deg. from your main listening position, then by ear adjust the individual dB settings for the side speakers until the are at a volume level that sounds balanced with the other speakers. Rather than doing it by ear, it is better if you buy an SPL and look for one of the many threads here explaining the procedure.

I know you have a gift certificate, but here are two places where you can save lots of money buying PSB, one has brand new b-stock (minor cosmetic damage) at very good prices, plus they are an authorized dealer, and warranty covers your speakers. The other has excellent price in brand new a-stock PSB's, also an authorized dealer. As an example that C40 is $229.00 (maple) A-Stock, or $260.00 (black) A-Stock, at SA. If it was me I would test my GF's tolerance level by going with T45's, after all her title is GF, not Wife.

Check:

www.saturdayaudio.com

www.dmcelectronics.com

These are two nice setups:

B25/C40/B15

T45/C40/B15

A sub makes everything sound better, I would recommend a sub from www.parts-express.com (Dayton), www.hsuresearch.com (HSU), www.edesignaudio.com (great, but get ready to wait), and www.**********. If you find a good deal on PSB 6i, it is also very good.

Careful, Alpha T1 is a big improvement over the previous Alpha T. I would audition T1 vs B25, before reaching a conclusion. Be advised that if you want floorstanders at B25 price you need to seriously consider the T1.

I have T45 and B25, and have done lots of A/B comparisons, and there is not much difference between them. Thought the mids are more detailed on the T45.

No, not really, his room is big enough that if he wants to drive all the speakers to the proper reference levels the Alphas may be in danger of overload or actual damage. The others will handle the power just fine.

I doubt that he wants to drive them at reference levels, as that is darn high, but your point is very valid.

I'd agree the Alpha T is a good speaker. All PSB's are. But I'd have to say the b25 is better. I'd never buy a speaker just on specs but the specs on the b25 are better, its in a better line but let your ears decide. Then factor in what it costs you to make the jump to the b25..it may or may not be worth it to you. Like I said essentially the T1 really is a bookshelf speaker with a built in stand. Ofcourse you will have to also factor in stands for the b25 unless you have another way of mounting them. If you go with the alpha T1 you will still have a good system..much better than any HTIB system.
Here is a quote from a review done on them:
"Paul Barton has once again upped the ante on what he can design into an affordable loudspeaker. Although it's been several years since I heard and reviewed his Image 4T, I can't recall a single area where that older, more expensive speaker outperformed the Image B25—it impressed me in many areas and let me down in none. I can't think of a single other speaker for less than $500/pair that outperforms the PSB Image B25. Congratulations, Paul!" -Published by: Stereophile
Date of Issue: December 2004
Reviewer: Robert J. Reina

Here is a quick link to a review on the t1 if you are interested:
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s...-system/page-1

Thanks for the Reply PR Audio I bought the B25s because I didn't like the T45's I was surprised at the lack of clarity compared to the B25 But I am happy with the purchase and I will Check out those web sites for the Center because Its next on the list then to the sub LOL Gotta love how addicting this stuff gets....

There are some disadvantages with dual midranges, unfortunately. They kind of trip over each other acoustically. Trying to convince them to go to a 3-way for that series, but we'll see.

I read the post about it in this thread but I was wondering if anyone else has opinions on the PSB VisionSound VS400 as there is quite a sale on them right now. Of course there are drawbacks of having slim speakers but considering the brand and the price, I think they should be pretty good but there is basically one review of them online and that's about it. I would really appreciate any thoughts anyone has.

If you're talking about that deal at Audio Advisor - WOW! $799 for a pair of VS400's is amazing. They aren't authorized PSB dealers, so you risk the warranty, but that is a great deal. Unfortunately I've never heard VS400's.

Hi There,

I have pair Alpha T1 and Alpha C1, and planning to purchase CW28
In-wall speaker, he is attachment of my drawing of the family room,
and very little of wall left to 2 more speaker, any suggested for 2
more, i was thinking of the ceiling. Do you think CW28 In-wall is a
good choice.I can this at very good price..

Thanks

 

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Good price, but I wouild question the "Usefulness" of the V400s. I'm currently in the market for a secondary discreet on-wall system. The V300s would have worked well for me (can't find them at a blowout price like the V400s). If I was willing to buy the V400s, i'd also probably be willing to get slightly larger floorstanders, and then my options would increase immensely.

At $800 there are plenty of deals to be had for great floorstanders (maybe not as stylish as the V400s).

I've never had the opportunity to hear the VisionSounds personally, but they get awfully good reviews. The PSB site has reproductions of several reviews:

PSB Reviews

One comment that caught my eye was from the Home Theater & Sounds review:

"The PSB VisionSound VS300, however, is good enough for a primary system if space is at a premium."....