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post #841 of 4600
3/2/08 at 5:47am
I have an onkyo tx-sr805 receiver and
psb c40 for center
psb t55 fronts
psb 10-s for side surrounds
psb s-50's for rear surrounds
kenwood powered subwoofer 12"


please let me know your opinion ,and what you think of my whole setup ..
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post #842 of 4600
3/2/08 at 8:26am
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Originally Posted by j213 View Post

I have an onkyo tx-sr805 receiver and
psb c40 for center
psb t55 fronts
psb 10-s for side surrounds
psb s-50's for rear surrounds
kenwood powered subwoofer 12"


please let me know your opinion ,and what you think of my whole setup ..

I think your setup is great. If I could nitpick, I would trade in the C40 for a C60, because I think it would made better with the T55's.
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post #843 of 4600
3/2/08 at 8:28pm
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Originally Posted by SimpleTheater View Post

I think your setup is great. If I could nitpick, I would trade in the C40 for a C60, because I think it would made better with the T55's.

I agree. And I'll buy your C40 from you as I'm looking for one to match my T45s and B15s. Is it in black? There is even a C60 on ebay right now.....
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post #844 of 4600
3/2/08 at 9:41pm
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Originally Posted by SimpleTheater View Post

I think your setup is great. If I could nitpick, I would trade in the C40 for a C60, because I think it would made better with the T55's.

I further agree...but no "nitpick" with the sub?! I would think thats the likely next upgrade.
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post #845 of 4600
3/3/08 at 2:39am
These speakers are less than a week old except for the 10-s .it would be very hard to sell any of these speakers... unless i had the c-40 definitely sold i would not try to buy anything on e-bay.paid 320.00 with txs and shipping on the c-40....... my whole system is black.
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post #846 of 4600
3/3/08 at 6:13pm
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Originally Posted by j213 View Post

These speakers are less than a week old except for the 10-s .it would be very hard to sell any of these speakers... unless i had the c-40 definitely sold i would not try to buy anything on e-bay.paid 320.00 with txs and shipping on the c-40....... my whole system is black.

The C40 will match very well with the T55's. If you check the specs on the T55, and the T45 they are almost equal, except for 3-4 Hz in the lower end.

Do you like your system???
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post #847 of 4600
3/3/08 at 6:16pm
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Originally Posted by droid56 View Post

I can get a pair of G-Design GB1 monitors for a very good price from a local dealer. My first question is whether my non-audiophile ears will hear that they are clearly better sounding for music as compared to my v5 Paradigm mini monitors?

My second question is whether my Yamaha 1800 receiver, rated at 130 watts, with 2 speakers running, will struggle with the 6 ohm, 87 db sensitivity GB1s, particularly at a fairly loud volume level?

I am sure you will hear the difference between the mini's and the G's. Sicne they are bookshelves, and not very heavy, if you can take your Mini's to the dealer and do an head to head comparison at their place, under the same circumstances. Then, you will know what to expect.

Your Yamaha shouldn't have any problems handling the G's.
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post #848 of 4600
3/3/08 at 10:27pm
Well i was budget starved, and I live in a condo...and my room is only 12x15... and it's my first setup....

But I pieced together the Alpha set (2 x B1,C1, 2 x LR1) and a 10" velodyne vx-10 for $400 final, which is a steal in Canada. All used, Kijiji and ebay...

Even though it's paired with an average pioneer receiver, I'm extremely happy. I think I've listened to Optimus Prime mess up bonecrusher on the highway 150 times now....

I'm hooked, good news is I have plenty of speakers to choose from for upgrades!
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post #849 of 4600
3/4/08 at 4:22am
I think the system sounds great ,but now i am thinking do you think the c-60 would make my system sound better
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post #850 of 4600
3/5/08 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by j213 View Post

I think the system sounds great ,but now i am thinking do you think the c-60 would make my system sound better

Unless you have a really large room (I'm sure people will argue about what constitutes "large") and/or listen at VERY loud levels, the C40 will probably do fine. The image line matches pretty well across the board. That said, if you ever come across a killer deal on a C60, why not?

Also (not to get off topic), but how do you like your Onkyo amp? I'm considering that or a similar model for my next upgrade.....
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post #851 of 4600
3/5/08 at 2:59pm
The Onkyo amp is amazing it does everything you ask it to do ,it is 130amps and it seems like it powers my speaker setup with plenty of room to spare ,i would reccommend this total setup to anyone.............
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post #852 of 4600
3/6/08 at 7:33pm
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Originally Posted by larkowski1 View Post

Unless you have a really large room (I'm sure people will argue about what constitutes "large") and/or listen at VERY loud levels, the C40 will probably do fine. The image line matches pretty well across the board. That said, if you ever come across a killer deal on a C60, why not?

Also (not to get off topic), but how do you like your Onkyo amp? I'm considering that or a similar model for my next upgrade.....

Fully agree...
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post #853 of 4600
3/9/08 at 5:08pm
does anyone know whats a good setting for psb cw26 inwall speakers.I'm refering for home theater usage.I'm using them for my right and left speakers.I'm alittle confused on the +2 and -2 treble and midrange. Thank you
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post #854 of 4600
3/10/08 at 10:35am
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Originally Posted by SimpleTheater View Post

At that price I'd get it before he sells it.


Unfortunately when I went home and did my budget I ran out of money after buying catchers gear for my daughter and hockey gear for my son. Oh well, maybe next time when the budget permits.

Thanks for the suggestion. Maybe I Will stop by later and it will not be sold. Selling of HT gear has slowed down with the housing market.

Jeff
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post #855 of 4600
3/10/08 at 11:33am
i am in the process of finishing up a friends dorm set up. and we are in the need for a Alpha C or C1 in black, preferably the C1 at 130-150 shipped, i know its low but thats all thats left in the budget. We are going to be running onkyo 605, 3 C1s for L/C/R and B1 for rears with a Velodyne CHT-12.Coupled with a 50" SXRD this should be a great setup.
pm me if you have any leads and please post any comments on this set up
-Aaron-
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post #856 of 4600
3/10/08 at 12:42pm
I have used a Mirage BPS-400 with my PSB Image T65's etc. I like the Mirage as it has nice power for movies, but I often wonder if a ported subwoofer may be a better match for my ported PSB T65's towers.

Any thoughts on a subwoofer with similar specs to the Mirage but that may blend better with my towers? Or just another subwoofer that is comparable in performance that I could try for a change?
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post #857 of 4600
3/10/08 at 8:43pm
did anyone see my post?
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post #858 of 4600
3/11/08 at 10:09am
Hey guys, I can't think of a better place to get some experienced opinions and advice. I am new to the surround arena and am trying to finish with the side speaker choice and placement.
This is for dvd only, 50/50 between movies and concerts. I do 2 channel for all my music. I currently am running the G-Design towers and center, and I am looking to choose between the B-15 or the S50 for my surround speaker.
Here are the specifics:

1. to use direct or bipole
2. they will be placed about 8 ft above the listening area
3. to choose placement between either in the corner or on the back wall
4. I have a 20 ft vaulted ceiling

Any and all advice etc. is welcome for type and placement and why you would do it that way.

Thanks,
UMtiger
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post #859 of 4600
3/11/08 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by UMtiger View Post

Any and all advice etc. is welcome for type and placement and why you would do it that way.

How big is your room? Hopefully by the end of this week I'll have a pair of s50's in my 14 x 22 or so (depending on how you measure it) room. No vaulted ceiling but the back wall is open to the breakfast room / kitchen so I'm also having to deal with the side wall vs. back wall and high mounting position. May be able to tell you more by next week. Personal opinion at this point is that I don't think the B-15's would be as good of match for the G series...
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post #860 of 4600
3/11/08 at 10:31am
I did leave that out didn't I, the room is 20x20
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post #861 of 4600
3/11/08 at 11:01am
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Originally Posted by UMtiger View Post

Hey guys, I can't think of a better place to get some experienced opinions and advice. I am new to the surround arena and am trying to finish with the side speaker choice and placement.
This is for dvd only, 50/50 between movies and concerts. I do 2 channel for all my music. I currently am running the G-Design towers and center, and I am looking to choose between the B-15 or the S50 for my surround speaker.
Here are the specifics:

1. to use direct or bipole
2. they will be placed about 8 ft above the listening area
3. to choose placement between either in the corner or on the back wall
4. I have a 20 ft vaulted ceiling

Any and all advice etc. is welcome for type and placement and why you would do it that way.

Quite a price difference between the S50's and the B15's. I know surrounds don't get used a lot, but in a room that's 20x20, the B15's may be a bit underwhelming. A better comparison would be the B25's, so I'll base my opinions on those instead.

My personal opinion is if you have only one row of seating direct will work very well if they are placed properly. 8ft above the listening area, as you stated, will completely rule out any direct firing speaker - I'd even argue any bipole speaker. Get a pair of dipoles since they are hard to localize.
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post #862 of 4600
3/11/08 at 12:31pm
SimpleTheater............... why would the height make using any direct speaker not attractive?
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post #863 of 4600
3/11/08 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by loucas View Post

does anyone know whats a good setting for psb cw26 inwall speakers.I'm refering for home theater usage.I'm using them for my right and left speakers.I'm alittle confused on the +2 and -2 treble and midrange. Thank you

Loucas............ you won't find too many people on here that can afford or have the space abilities to do the in-wall systems by PSB. Have you considered contacting the installer or PSB through their website, unless you installed them yourselves?
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post #864 of 4600
3/11/08 at 12:47pm
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Originally Posted by UMtiger View Post

Hey guys, I can't think of a better place to get some experienced opinions and advice. I am new to the surround arena and am trying to finish with the side speaker choice and placement.
This is for dvd only, 50/50 between movies and concerts. I do 2 channel for all my music. I currently am running the G-Design towers and center, and I am looking to choose between the B-15 or the S50 for my surround speaker.
Here are the specifics:

1. to use direct or bipole
2. they will be placed about 8 ft above the listening area
3. to choose placement between either in the corner or on the back wall
4. I have a 20 ft vaulted ceiling

Any and all advice etc. is welcome for type and placement and why you would do it that way.

Thanks,
UMtiger

Especially considering the price difference, I'd go B15 no question. First, since you are using it for concerts and dvds with audio, I think a direct speaker works better here. The dipoles are marginally better to my ears for movies, but similar (non-localized) effects can be achieved with the placement of a traditional speaker (just make sure you are sitting off axis and are hearing lots of reflections and the speakers start to sound non-localized). In some other places I've lived, I've even played with aiming the speakers away from me (toward a wall) and adjusting the level. To me, a test disc and an SPL meter is almost as important as the choice of speaker (within reason) in some cases. I have a friend with a Polk setup with dipole surrounds and I wasn't that impressed (compared with my similar Polk system I used to have), especially for the price.

I will close by saying that I have B15s for the rears in a 14x22x9 room (which do fine for surrounds) and that I haven't heard the S50's. Again, this is only my $0.02. Others may disagree completely.
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post #865 of 4600
3/11/08 at 6:24pm
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Originally Posted by JeffTay View Post

Unfortunately when I went home and did my budget I ran out of money after buying catchers gear for my daughter and hockey gear for my son. Oh well, maybe next time when the budget permits.

Thanks for the suggestion. Maybe I Will stop by later and it will not be sold. Selling of HT gear has slowed down with the housing market.

Jeff

Good luck! But, you did right; first things first.

With the slow down in the housing market and general economy I've watched a trend of more people getting into HT and upgrading their equipment, as to spend more time at home. Others scrapping plans to buy a new house, and remodeling their current one. So, they might sell fast.
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post #866 of 4600
3/11/08 at 6:26pm
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Originally Posted by larkowski1 View Post

Especially considering the price difference, I'd go B15 no question. First, since you are using it for concerts and dvds with audio, I think a direct speaker works better here. The dipoles are marginally better to my ears for movies, but similar (non-localized) effects can be achieved with the placement of a traditional speaker (just make sure you are sitting off axis and are hearing lots of reflections and the speakers start to sound non-localized). In some other places I've lived, I've even played with aiming the speakers away from me (toward a wall) and adjusting the level. To me, a test disc and an SPL meter is almost as important as the choice of speaker (within reason) in some cases. I have a friend with a Polk setup with dipole surrounds and I wasn't that impressed (compared with my similar Polk system I used to have), especially for the price.

I will close by saying that I have B15s for the rears in a 14x22x9 room (which do fine for surrounds) and that I haven't heard the S50's. Again, this is only my $0.02. Others may disagree completely.

I agree with this...Not, much more to add.
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post #867 of 4600
3/11/08 at 7:07pm
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Originally Posted by UMtiger View Post

Hey guys, I can't think of a better place to get some experienced opinions and advice. I am new to the surround arena and am trying to finish with the side speaker choice and placement.
This is for dvd only, 50/50 between movies and concerts. I do 2 channel for all my music. I currently am running the G-Design towers and center, and I am looking to choose between the B-15 or the S50 for my surround speaker.
Here are the specifics:

1. to use direct or bipole
2. they will be placed about 8 ft above the listening area
3. to choose placement between either in the corner or on the back wall
4. I have a 20 ft vaulted ceiling

Any and all advice etc. is welcome for type and placement and why you would do it that way.

Thanks,
UMtiger

I have a very small room (for a home theatre) of 12 feet wide by 17 feet long by 7 feet 4 inches high and I'm going with:

S50's as my "side" surrounds and a pair of B15's as my rear surrounds. (front speakers are Image T65 towers and C60 centre). Quite frankly, the reason I chose the B15's for the rear is because there just isn't enough 7.1 material to warrant my investing much more in the rear surround speakers. If I play around with 7.1 and try doing DPL IIx on a great deal of material, including music, and find I really like the rear surround effect, then maybe I'll see if I want better rear surrounds, but for now, B15's are fine.

One thing I would suggest, is that you match the speakers as much as possible. So your front speakers are matched, so for the rear, getting some combination of the B15 and/or B25 and S50 would work well as the tweeters are well matched. Even better is to match with the front speakers too, so you may want to consider that option.
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post #868 of 4600
3/12/08 at 5:20am
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Originally Posted by UMtiger View Post

SimpleTheater............... why would the height make using any direct speaker not attractive?

A direct reflecting speaker will make its location too noticeable. Now if you are really just watching concerts and sports it won't make a difference, but that door opening off screen to the left might sound a little odd coming from above your head. A dipole should handle that situation a bit better.
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post #869 of 4600
3/12/08 at 12:56pm
Not sure if everyone has seen this yet, but the Synchrony One was just reviewed by Stereophile (with a front cover shot) and was awarded the "Stereophile Class A Recommended Component" (Restricted Extreme LF) in loudspeakers - with a $$$ designation, which means it far outperforms its price point.

Other speakers rated in the Class include:

Legacy Audio Whisper - $16k/pr.
Quad ESL-989's - $9k/pr.
Wilson Watt/Puppy 8 - $28k/pr.

Not bad company for a $4,500 pair of speakers! Nice job PSB.
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post #870 of 4600
3/12/08 at 4:29pm
What do you guys recommend for surround rears? The Alpha B1 seems a little big for wall mounting.
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