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post #811 of 7216
Just curious if anyone's set is doing the same thing as mine while it's off, what it does is it makes clicking sounds; like the clicking it does when it powers on, except it does this randomly while its off and does not power on, just makes clicking noises. It's weird because I'm not having any type of power surges. I have changed my power surge strip because I thought that was what was causing it, but it's still doing the same thing on this new one.

The TV works normally fine when I turn it back on, so is this normal? Has anyone else notice this?

Thanks-
post #812 of 7216
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Originally Posted by flossy View Post

Just curious if anyone's set is doing the same thing as mine while it's off, what it does is it makes clicking sounds; like the clicking it does when it powers on, except it does this randomly while its off and does not power on, just makes clicking noises. It's weird because I'm not having any type of power surges. I have changed my power surge strip because I thought that was what was causing it, but it's still doing the same thing on this new one.

The TV works normally fine when I turn it back on, so is this normal? Has anyone else notice this?

Thanks-

Plasmas put off a lot of heat, are the clicks kind of like a car engine once you turn it off?
post #813 of 7216
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Originally Posted by dfranch View Post

Plasmas put off a lot of heat, are the clicks kind of like a car engine once you turn it off?

No, it's the exact same clicking when you turn the panel on.
post #814 of 7216
I haven't noticed any clicking noise from my plasma either on or off.
post #815 of 7216
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Originally Posted by flossy View Post

No, it's the exact same clicking when you turn the panel on.

I don't think that is normal. I get a single click when my 60U is first turned on but not at any other time.
post #816 of 7216
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Originally Posted by jkratze1 View Post

I don't think that is normal. I get a single click when my 60U is first turned on but not at any other time.

I get a triple click when I turn on my 60U. Otherwise, it is silent when it is off.
post #817 of 7216
If a tree falls in the forest and there is nobody around does it make a sound? I don't know but my panny doesn't make any noise when its off and when its on its just on until the trigger goes click... and then its off again and it still doesn't click.
post #818 of 7216
Great thread!

I've had my 42px60u for almost 2 months now and have found a ton of valuable information on this site.

I do have to say there seems to be a huge variation between what people are seeing with image retention. My 2 cents - I was a little paranoid and tried to be careful. I had p & b set at 0 for the first 100 hours and have had them at +8 / +6 since then (a little over 200 hours now). I don't play x-box, but my kids watch cartoons every Saturday morning for several hours before we get up (with that big ugly orange Nick Toons logo. Also, my father in law is a huge racing fan and watched about 4 hours straight when he visited with the racing ticker at the top of the screen. I swear every channel has a logo that never goes away (except during commercials) and I have never seen even the smallest hint of image retention. I even looked closely from a foot away right after hours of Nick toons - and nothing. I guess I don't see how others are getting retention from 30 min. of Letterman - but that's just me.

On to my question. I have the Motorolla DVR from Mediacom (I think the model is 6412 - not sure). Anyway, I can set the color of the menus to any color I want and I was wondering if there was a color that was better to use. I haven't seen any problems using purple, but I read somewhere that the blue phosphers aren't supposed to last as long - so maybe green is better to use over a long period of time? Or am I being to paranoid - my wife would say yes.

BTW - I don't have a calibration DVD, but I tried to use the THX one on the Star Wars DVD and these are my current settings:

Pirture: +8 (will switch to +12 after more hours)
Brightness: +6 (will switch to +10)
Color: -5
Tint: 0
Sharpness: -5
Color Temp: Warm
Color Mgmt: Off
Black Level: Light

Not sure if these are right - most of the tests are very subjective in my opinion. But I have to say - it does look good!
post #819 of 7216
I have a quick question. I have the 60u I like the standard settings already in there (but with dark black level) I tried a couple different settings but felt most comfortable at that setting. If I use it about 6 hours a week, how long will it last before it becomes noticeably less bright (or less picture). At that point could I pump the picture again so that it looked good again or no? This is w/o the doing the first hours at lower brightness burn-in thing. Thanks
post #820 of 7216
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Originally Posted by NathanC View Post

I think Video NR is to reduce noise for SD viewing, MPEG NR is if you have a signal with really blocky and obvious MPEG artifacts. Black level is kind of tricky, because from what i can tell dark doesn't noticeably make the blacks blacker, it just makes everything below 10IRE solid black. It pretty much just crushes blacks, and makes the blacks look less black since they cover alot more of the screen. With black level set to dark you also lose tons of detail, find a program with a good amount of shadow detail and switch between the two settings, you'll see how much dark hides.

Thank you Nathan for the help. I am surprised to see so many people on this forum with the black level set to 'dark' as changing it to light definetly is better imho.

One other thing. I have a Comcast Motorola HD DVR (i think 6812) and it has a setting on the config to determine how to output HD. They give you a choice between 720p and 1080i. I have played with this a fair amount and it seems that the 720p is better. Anyone else play around with this box and its settings?

I purchased my 42x60u last month and last night I watched Edmonton on INHD and was blown away by how well I could track the puck - the move to HD has been very nice!.

Patrick
post #821 of 7216
hey, guys...

some help, if anyone feels up to it...

i have the 42/60u hooked up to my SA8300 DVR stb via HDMI.

1. there are 2 settings for the dvr to feed audio to the tv. it has dolby digital OR hdmi. if i try feeding the tv using DD i get no sound to the TV. i HAVE to feed it via the hdmi. makes sense, since i'm using HDMI...so, that's fine...but,

A) shouldn't the tv take DD (or does it have to be through audio cables?...

B) if i feed out from the dvr/stb via HDMI then my home theatre doesn't get full sound b/c the dvr isn't outputting dolby digital via the optical cable b/c, i guess, the HDMI takes precedence...if the dvr outputs via hdmi then the ht system doesn't get full digital surround...

2. is there a setting on the SA 8300 dvr to just pass through the signal to the tv rather than having to set it up to output certain formats (ie, 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i)????

thanks...ANY and ALL help is really appreciated...

optivity...thanks in advance (since you usually know most of this stuff!!!)

-j
post #822 of 7216
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Originally Posted by kucharsk View Post

This is a common query.

Whether the DVD fills the screen or not depends on whether the DVD contains 16:9 anamorphic content or not, whether the player is set to display to a 4:3 or 16:9 display and whether the player is connected via composite, component or HDMI inputs.

The general answer is when playing an anamorphic 16:9 DVD with your player set to display to a 16:9 device, connected to the display via component or HDMI and with the display set to wide mode, the picture should be full screen.

I understand this is a common topic, and that it depends on what ratio the DVD content is. But my question is why aren't all DVDs made to fit a 16:9 screen (or why aren't widescreen TVs made to be the same ratio that most movies are)? Most DVDs I rent do not fit the screen unless I use Zoom mode. I just watched King Kong last night and there were 3" bars on the top and bottom in Full or Just modes and the DVD cover said it was in 2:35.1 ratio. Today I rented a movie called Wolf Creek and it says its in 16:9 anamorphic ratio and it filled the screen completely in Full or Just modes. When a DVD has 16:9 content does that mean part of the picture is cut off on by TV?

On a seperate issue, I'm using a bowtie antenna for OTA HD content. The part of the antenna that I screw the two plugs into has four screws on it. Two screws for "VHF" and two for "UHF". Does it matter which one I use when trying to receive HD?
post #823 of 7216
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Originally Posted by redhatyellow View Post

has anyone ordered their 50PX60U from CC online? how was the experience? thinking about ordering from them..

Yes ordered on Saturday around 10:15. Got an e-mail confirmation about 15 min later. went to the store and picked up the TV. No salesperson involved.
post #824 of 7216
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Originally Posted by bpg99 View Post

On to my question. I have the Motorolla DVR from Mediacom (I think the model is 6412 - not sure). Anyway, I can set the color of the menus to any color I want and I was wondering if there was a color that was better to use. I haven't seen any problems using purple, but I read somewhere that the blue phosphers aren't supposed to last as long - so maybe green is better to use over a long period of time? Or am I being to paranoid - my wife would say yes.

I could be wrong myself, but I have never heard of the blue phosphors in a plasma to have a shorter lifespan. I have heard, however, that OLED displays have this problem with the blue not lasting long enough. It's the reason we can't buy an OLED tv yet. I would definitely change the color of the menus over time though to ensure the phosphors age evenly.
post #825 of 7216
I tested various setting (Level of Black Light and Dark), and felt most comfortable with Dark.

[Avia]

Contrast +14
Brightness +5 (minimum)
Color +2
Tint -3
Sharpness +5
Color Temp: Normal
Color Mng: Off
Black Level: Dark

Concerning these adjustments, which should I choose? I watch DVD only. (SD-DVD). No television in this moment.

Color mng? On/Off
Video NR? On/Off
MPEG NR? On/Off

(Sorry if the answer is in the preceding messages. I did not read all the thread because English is not my first language)

Tanks!!!
post #826 of 7216
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Originally Posted by futurepannyowner View Post

I could be wrong myself, but I have never heard of the blue phosphors in a plasma to have a shorter lifespan. I have heard, however, that OLED displays have this problem with the blue not lasting long enough. It's the reason we can't buy an OLED tv yet. I would definitely change the color of the menus over time though to ensure the phosphors age evenly.


The following is a quote from the "The Future Looks Bright for Plasma TVs" white paper, By Dr. Norman Bardsley, Director of Display Technology, DisplaySearch & Ross Young, CEO, DisplaySearch:

"There are three other changes implemented to reduce differential aging. One is to improve the blue phosphor, which has been the color most susceptible to wear. Recent improvements in blue phosphor should cause color shifts to be a thing of the past."

Color shift is when one phosphor (blue), wears more than the others, making the color shift to less blue (warmer).
post #827 of 7216
I have the 50PX60U and would like to know if anyone has figured out how to program volume for an AV processor to the remote? I have a Motorola STB connnected directly to my processor via SPDIF cable and would like to be able to use the Panny remote for the volume. Your assistance would be appreciated.

Mike
post #828 of 7216
I just got back from BB, and I tried to get the picture on the 42px60u to be as good as the Samsung HP-S4253, I just couldn't. I have every reason to want the Panasonic, It would have been $250 cheaper than I paid for the Samsung. The Panasonic has more zoom modes, which is about the only complaint I have with the Samsung TV (Samsung has no zoom modes on HDMI or VGA inputs). I just could not get the picture to look as good. In vivid mode the colors are ok, but people's faces look like claymation. in the other modes the faces look ok, but the colors are muted. I'm going to stick with the Samsung.
post #829 of 7216
Please help. I got a new 4260u and I am having problems with my HD SA 8300 PVR (Rogers). I have it hooked up through HDMI, but the picture keeps coming in and out. It keeps losing sync with the TV and jumps between the TV menu and the PVR. Is my TV defective? I used the same HDMI cable with my old sony CRT and there was no problem. I tried both HDMI ports on the TV and get the same issue with both.
post #830 of 7216
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Originally Posted by conan48 View Post

Please help. I got a new 4260u and I am having problems with my HD SA 8300 PVR (Rogers). I have it hooked up through HDMI, but the picture keeps coming in and out. It keeps losing sync with the TV and jumps between the TV menu and the PVR. Is my TV defective? I used the same HDMI cable with my old sony CRT and there was no problem. I tried both HDMI ports on the TV and get the same issue with both.

Do you have your coax connected too? You need to have both coax cable and HDMI connected.
post #831 of 7216
Hello all. I posted this in a diff thread already, but thought this one might be the correct place to post. I have been reading posts on this site for a while, first time poster. I recently purchased a panasonic th-42px60u at best buy over the weekend. Heck of a sale, and I was able to use an extra 10 percent coupon. Anyway, when I brought the first set home, I set all the settings to 0 on the standard to break the set in and couldn't help but put the movie seabisquit in real quick. When the red dvd screen popped up talking about copyprotected and stuff i noticed a blue mark on the middle of the screen. I thought plasma's didn't get stuck pixels (that is why I didn't go lcd again....horrible experience with sony). Needless to say, exchanged. Got the second set and it is perfect and I love it. Once again set all the numbers to 0 have it on standard and am using the break in dvd found on this site. I plan on doing this for a few hundred hours before I watch tv with logos or even game on it. After a few hundred hours I plan on using a calibration dvd. I have a few questions.
1.Which is better, dve or avia?
2.Is there anything else I should do for my tv besides what I have spoke of?
3.Do I have to worry about non magnetically shielded speakers around the set?
4.What is the difference between the warm, cool, and normal settings?

Thanks,

Shaun
post #832 of 7216
I have my coax going into my HD box and outputting HDMI to my TV.
post #833 of 7216
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Originally Posted by Strummer View Post

OK so something weird happened to my 42PX60U today. It became almost totally non-responsive to any commands on the remote or even pushing the buttons directly on the set itself.

It will power on with either the remote or button on the set, and display a fine image. But that's it. No volume control, no channel change, no menu, nothing. Just on or off.

Anybody have an idea of what to do? Is there any kind of master reset or something? I'm stumped and calling Panasonic if nobody has any ideas. I have unplugged it for 5 minutes to no avail.

Thanks for your assistance.

I guess nobody has encountered this yet, which is a good thing.

Panny service is coming tomorrow to take a look see.

Now the set won't turn off after it has been on for more than a couple hours. I have to pull the plug to get it off.
post #834 of 7216
I am using the following settings with my Panasonic 60u when watching movies through HDMI. My problem is that the black colors still aren't very detailed. What settings should I change to get the blacks to be more detailed and get an overall better picture for movies? When I turn the blacks to dark instead of light it makes the scenes a little bit too dark.

Pic menu - cinema
Pic - 10
Color - 0
Tint - 0
Bright - 0
Sharp - -3
Color temp - normal
Color mgmt - off
Darks - Light
post #835 of 7216
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Originally Posted by Strummer View Post

I guess nobody has encountered this yet, which is a good thing.

Panny service is coming tomorrow to take a look see.

Now the set won't turn off after it has been on for more than a couple hours. I have to pull the plug to get it off.


Sorry to hear about this grief.
Please post the findings of the techie call/visit --even if it is that this was the perverbial baddddddd one in the lot.

If he has an easy solution (besides a total replacement), let's hear about it.
post #836 of 7216
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Originally Posted by conan48 View Post

I have my coax going into my HD box and outputting HDMI to my TV.

Your coax goes from the wall into your HD cable box - then your coax goes out of your HD cable box into your TV. (Also) Your HDMI goes from your HD cable box into your TV.
post #837 of 7216
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Originally Posted by Docism View Post

Your coax goes from the wall into your HD cable box - then your coax goes out of your HD cable box into your TV. (Also) Your HDMI goes from your HD cable box into your TV.

It sounds like he has it hooked up correctly already. If you want to watch the output from the 8300HDYou only need the HDMI from the cable box to the TV You could hook up the Coax, but that should have no effect on viewing the HDMI input.
post #838 of 7216
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Originally Posted by conan48 View Post

Please help. I got a new 4260u and I am having problems with my HD SA 8300 PVR (Rogers). I have it hooked up through HDMI, but the picture keeps coming in and out. It keeps losing sync with the TV and jumps between the TV menu and the PVR. Is my TV defective? I used the same HDMI cable with my old sony CRT and there was no problem. I tried both HDMI ports on the TV and get the same issue with both.

Most likely it's the STB and not your PX60U. With the SA8300 try a component interface instead and verify the integrity of your HDMI connection(s) with some "quality" A/V equipment like an OPPO OPDV971H.
post #839 of 7216
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Originally Posted by dfranch View Post

It sounds like he has it hooked up correctly already. If you want to watch the output from the 8300HDYou only need the HDMI from the cable box to the TV You could hook up the Coax, but that should have no effect on viewing the HDMI input.

That's pretty much what I thought too. Recently after I added a DMR-EH75V to my entertainment system. I noticed the PQ was pixelated on the HD channels and snowy on some others. I had the cable from the wall-cable box-DMR EH75V and HDMI from the DMR-EH75V to the TV.

I tried changing it around from the wall-DMR EH75V-cable box but it had no effect.

Now I have the coax going from the wall-cable box- DMR EH75V-TV and it works great.

I had actually called Time Warner to come out and look at the box and connection but since I added the coax connection Its all good so I cancelled the call.
post #840 of 7216
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Originally Posted by Docism View Post

Your coax goes from the wall into your HD cable box - then your coax goes out of your HD cable box into your TV. (Also) Your HDMI goes from your HD cable box into your TV.

why would u need a co-ax going into the tv if you have an hdmi connecting from the STB to the tv?
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