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post #151 of 491
There's a map inside the game box.
post #152 of 491
So what quests have been available in the palace/market area near where you start? I did the unfair competition one, also doing the arena (and the orc prince one is available). The grey fox sounds like one, but haven't gotten a quest for it. Im not a theif character or dark brotherhood. Im thinking of going back and bribing/persuading a bum to tell me about the grey fox. No spoilers please, just wondering if Im missing some stuff
post #153 of 491
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Originally Posted by evobrett View Post

So, I am about 10 hours into it so far with my dark elf character and somehow I got vampirism. I did notice I was starting to move around really fast and it turns out you get some major benefits to being a vampire but for me the negatives outweigh the positives. I read around on the net and found what I need to do. It looks like it will take me a few hours of gameplay to get rid of it. If you have had it for less than 3 days then I think a cure disease potion will work on you.

If you've had it for longer than 3 days use the following guide. (note: you may be able to go straight to step two)

As far as my impressions on the game go... I'm loving every minute of it and am blown away by the sheer adventure of the game. SO many options and even nearly 10 hours into it I've only done the first little step to the main quest. If you are in a hurry with this game you will not enjoy it nearly as much.

I'm a dark elf as well. Luckily I don't have vampirism, so I can't help you there. I like the characters balance. So, is the evo in your screen name referencing the Lancer Evolution?
post #154 of 491
Im getting bored to death.....

9 hours....still level 1.....

Following main quest mostly, few side quests......

What am I doing wrong??
post #155 of 491
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Originally Posted by Cipro View Post

Im getting bored to death.....

9 hours....still level 1.....

Following main quest mostly, few side quests......

What am I doing wrong??

If you have the second little icon on the bottom of your screen to the right of your compas it means you can level up. But you must sleep. Some say you must sleep in an official bed as opposed to camping in the wilderness, I have not tested that yet. I am more then 9 hours in but am only at level 2... but then I am purposfully not sleeping so i can get my multipliers up. I suppose if I was sleeping I could be 5 the level or so.

You said you are following the main quest. Did you get to Kvach (its like the 2nd or third mission)? Cause that was where I was last night and to me that was anything but boring, but I did get my az handed to me often (which stunk) until I decided to start employing some strategy.
post #156 of 491
I am a High Elf mage and plan on relying only on magic, with the occasional enchanted sword or spell arrow.

Anyway, I have collected tons of weapons along the way I will not need that have much gold value I would like to use to buy magic related items (a staff, alchemy equipment, etc).

Are there no pawn shops? Is bartering the only option (and is not always an option, apparently)?

Thank you.
post #157 of 491
Yes I closed that gate.....


Yes, I am well past that.......and still level 1....

I guess it does not really matter since the Bad guys are all based on your current level...
post #158 of 491
Cipro, if you are having trouble leveling, then you may need a better understanding of the leveling system. They basically borrowed the system from Morrowind, and you level up by increasing any combination of ten of your major skills. Then, you'll get a message telling you to go rest and meditate on your accomplishments or something to that effect and that's when you should go sleep in a bed. (Fighter's Guild is most convenient)

The most probable reason that you haven't leveled up yet is that you are using skills that aren't your majors. For instance, if you are a warrior class, you would want to use heavy armor and not lighter ones so that your heavy armor skill would be increasing. Similarly, if you had blades as a major skill and not blunt, you would want to use a sword rather than a warhammer.

When AHDTVDiet referred to the multiplier system, this deals with governing attributes. For instance, the governing attribute of heavy armor is endurance, so if you were to level heavy armor three times before you level, you have the option of increasing endurance three times. This works for all skills governed by that attribute (including non-major skills, I believe), and goes to a maximum increase of five. Therefore, it is important to watch what you are increasing as you level to determine how your character is built.
post #159 of 491
I'm a level 3 with about 5-6 hours of gametime.
post #160 of 491
Another question... Is it better to level up before you have your 5 training sessions? Or wait until you get your 5 sessions to level up? I finally got the 5 for level 1 and went to meditate, only to already have made it to the next level. Thoughts? Comments?
post #161 of 491
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Originally Posted by Cipro View Post

Yes I closed that gate.....


Yes, I am well past that.......and still level 1....

I guess it does not really matter since the Bad guys are all based on your current level...


I am about 22hrs in Level 10 and I havent even started the main quest yet, I did close the gate at Kavach or whatever but I just stumbled upon the town I wasnt on a mission or anything. I went up 3 levels while I was there so you are either not working on your major skills to level up or you just havent slept yet. I wonder when I should actually do the main story....
post #162 of 491
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Originally Posted by Sunkist View Post

I am about 22hrs in Level 10 and I havent even started the main quest yet, I did close the gate at Kavach or whatever but I just stumbled upon the town I wasnt on a mission or anything. I went up 3 levels while I was there so you are either not working on your major skills to level up or you just havent slept yet. I wonder when I should actually do the main story....



Im starting to get it now....Im trying to focus on those skills that up my levels....

I dont really like what I picked, but it will do...

post #163 of 491
Yea if you picked the wrong stuff then that sucks, maybe start all over again? It might suck but at least you will like your character more and be better prepared.
post #164 of 491
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Originally Posted by ChemEng View Post

Another question... Is it better to level up before you have your 5 training sessions? Or wait until you get your 5 sessions to level up? I finally got the 5 for level 1 and went to meditate, only to already have made it to the next level. Thoughts? Comments?

Can anyone help???
post #165 of 491
You can do it before you go up a level, it still contributes to your skill. it doesnt matter how close or far you are from leveling up.
post #166 of 491
Let me try again...

It it worth waiting to level up until you got the 5 trainings for that level?

Sorry for the confusion...
post #167 of 491
You can only do the training once per level so you might as well do it before you level up.
post #168 of 491
Ok, so I am making this mainly for me to ask questions. I have not played a rpg style game since final fantasy 7 so my skills are long gone. I played for roughly 10 hours over the weekend, got up to a level 4 dark elf, and then disaster struck. I am actually stuck on what to do next. Do not read if you are just starting the game, could be spoilers!!


I got stuck in my main quest on the "Spies" quest. I was sent to Burma/Bruma in order to look for spies. I was then pointed to a house to check out, the owner was a girl named Jearl. I go in and talk to her, she is a bad guy and we fight. I kill her and find a basement key on her. My quest is updated saying the basement key is a clue and that I should find out if I can find the Mythic Dawn Base with it. I have searched high and low, traveled back to the Cloud Temple and talked with Martin (who is reading the book about the Xernes sp?!) and I talk to Jeuffre who I tell that 2 spies are killed but he just says great and send me back on my way. So I am now running around Burma/Bruma looking for a basement, talking to everyone and searching everywhere. I think I am overcomplicating this more than it need to be. The red marker on the map is still at Jearls house, so I am assuming the key fits something there. Is there a trap door inside the house I overlooked, or outside the house?
I even said the hell with it and tried the 2 side quests I picked up while there. The quest "2 sides of the coin" I cannot complete because Arrona will not speak with me, and neither will Journa (the guy who supposedly stole her money and is now locked in the jail in the castle). So I am stuck there. So I tried the other quest named "a brotherhood betrayed" where Brandon Lirriam is found dead in his house. He was killed by Raynil Pralas, the vampire hunter, but I cannot find him anywhere. I checked Brandon's house but the gaurds are there and inform me that if I am not Raynil Pralas then I should leave.
post #169 of 491
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Originally Posted by phantomhitman View Post

So I tried the other quest named "a brotherhood betrayed" where Brandon Lirriam is found dead in his house. He was killed by Raynil Pralas, the vampire hunter, but I cannot find him anywhere. I checked Brandon's house but the gaurds are there and inform me that if I am not Raynil Pralas then I should leave.

Try using persuasion to increase your disposition. With this quest to need to gain more trust of people before they'll reveal anything to you.
post #170 of 491
Do the Forts and Caves respawn their items and enemies later in the game? As a level 2 Ive cleared maybe 6 of these, but the loot is rather unimpressive. Is it worth waiting until Im level 15 or so to do these or will their contents respawn later?
post #171 of 491
Enemies should respawn, albeit slowly. Not sure about the items though.
post #172 of 491
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Originally Posted by dwette View Post

Try using persuasion to increase your disposition. With this quest to need to gain more trust of people before they'll reveal anything to you.

i suck so bad at speechcraft, how the hell does that even work?! I rented the game so no manual iwth instructions. I know when you turn the wheel you can see their facial expressions change, but sometimes I cannot select the best expression, even if I rotate the wheel.
post #173 of 491
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Originally Posted by thall85 View Post

They basically borrowed the system from Morrowind, and you level up by increasing any combination of ten of your major skills. Then, you'll get a message telling you to go rest and meditate on your accomplishments or something to that effect and that's when you should go sleep in a bed. (Fighter's Guild is most convenient)

i understand I should work on leveling up my skillsets but should I always wait unitl the meditate message pops up? I know I have rested before without the meditate screen and it let me level up. Is that bad, or does it really matter?
post #174 of 491
Does anyone know what your characters level tops out at? 20? 25?..........
post #175 of 491
Did anyone else feel like the graphics inside the oil painting were reminiscent of the graphical style of Fable? I don't know if it was the colors or what that reminded me of Fable.
post #176 of 491
I ended up joining the Dark Brotherhood and Thiefs guild.

I was propositioned for the dark brotherhood after I killed an innocent person.

After a few of their quests, the person I was getting the quests from (who was a vampire) offered it to me. I accepted and he said I just said I needed to sleep.

Personally I think it's a pretty cool gift, you get a ton of positive attributes. The longer you go without feeding the more powerful and "vampire like" you become, you get more abilities and such, but then you become vulnerable to sunlight. If you feed then you can still walk in the sun, but you lose some of the cool abilities.

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Originally Posted by evobrett View Post

So, I am about 10 hours into it so far with my dark elf character and somehow I got vampirism. I did notice I was starting to move around really fast and it turns out you get some major benefits to being a vampire but for me the negatives outweigh the positives. I read around on the net and found what I need to do. It looks like it will take me a few hours of gameplay to get rid of it. If you have had it for less than 3 days then I think a cure disease potion will work on you.

If you've had it for longer than 3 days use the following guide. (note: you may be able to go straight to step two)

As far as my impressions on the game go... I'm loving every minute of it and am blown away by the sheer adventure of the game. SO many options and even nearly 10 hours into it I've only done the first little step to the main quest. If you are in a hurry with this game you will not enjoy it nearly as much.
post #177 of 491
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Originally Posted by phantomhitman View Post

I got stuck in my main quest on the "Spies" quest. I was sent to Burma/Bruma in order to look for spies. I was then pointed to a house to check out, the owner was a girl named Jearl. I go in and talk to her, she is a bad guy and we fight. I kill her and find a basement key on her. My quest is updated saying the basement key is a clue and that I should find out if I can find the Mythic Dawn Base with it. I have searched high and low, traveled back to the Cloud Temple and talked with Martin (who is reading the book about the Xernes sp?!) and I talk to Jeuffre who I tell that 2 spies are killed but he just says great and send me back on my way. So I am now running around Burma/Bruma looking for a basement, talking to everyone and searching everywhere. I think I am overcomplicating this more than it need to be. The red marker on the map is still at Jearls house, so I am assuming the key fits something there. Is there a trap door inside the house I overlooked, or outside the house?

Definitely overcomplicating

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look at the floor near the table in Jearl's house. There should be a trap door that you can open with the basement key.
post #178 of 491
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Originally Posted by Photic View Post

I ended up joining the Dark Brotherhood and Thiefs guild.

I was propositioned for the dark brotherhood after I killed an innocent person.

After a few of their quests, the person I was getting the quests from (who was a vampire) offered it to me. I accepted and he said I just said I needed to sleep.

Personally I think it's a pretty cool gift, you get a ton of positive attributes. The longer you go without feeding the more powerful and "vampire like" you become, you get more abilities and such, but then you become vulnerable to sunlight. If you feed then you can still walk in the sun, but you lose some of the cool abilities.

There are some huge benefits to being a vampire. Having lived that way through 10+ levels now I am not as eager to get the cure. Although it is a MAJOR ordeal getting rid of it I still plan on it. I don't like feeding all the time and smoking in sunlight. Plus, you can't fast travel during the day in any advanced vampire state.

It takes some planning as a vampire. Both where and when you can feed on a sleeping victim, when you can visit stores (mostly day-time availability only), when you can travel, when you can fight in the arena (only between ~8pm to 9pm) and so on. Quite frequently you will fast travel to a location but fail to realize time is passing while travelling so you arrive at your location in broad daylight and have very little time to get indoors before death. There is some balance to it and if you are willing to be inconvenienced like that then the benefits are worth it.
post #179 of 491
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Originally Posted by phantomhitman View Post

i suck so bad at speechcraft, how the hell does that even work?! I rented the game so no manual iwth instructions. I know when you turn the wheel you can see their facial expressions change, but sometimes I cannot select the best expression, even if I rotate the wheel.

Doesn't look like you've gotten an answer yet. Basically you have to use all four quarters of the circle, each representing one of love, like, dislike, and hate, and you want to maximize the colored part in the two positive options and minimize the colored part in the two negative options. So ideally you want it empty on hate and full on love if possible. Hate is the heavy scowl and love is the big smile, in case that's not obvious. You also need to do this as quickly as possible because their disposition drops as you wait. If you can do this repeatedly, you'll raise their disposition until it's maxed (typically under 100), and from there on you have to bribe them to raise it more. Hope this helps!
post #180 of 491
All I have to say is to make sure you keep save games strung out over a long period of time. I just had a glitch in the Thieves Guild Quest "Ahdarji's Heirloom" were I ended up with two of the item I was attempting to steal. As it turns out if that happens you are not able to complete the quest thus precluding any future thieves guild advancement.

I'm seeing reports of a number of quest glitches on Oblivion's forums, in a game this complex this is to be expected.

Just make sure you keep multiple saves and don't rely on auto save to bail you out.
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