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post #3541 of 3896
Thread Starter 
Yes, "enable wakeup from suspend" should be checked.
post #3542 of 3896
Quote:
Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Yes, "enable wakeup from suspend" should be checked.

Perfect, I've got my HTPC set up perfectly then. Thanks for the quick response
post #3543 of 3896
'McHale's Navy - The Day They Captured Santa Claus' is highlighted light green, but it won't schedule. I just updated my HDHomeruns last night, do you suppose something went wrong?
Log output below:

=========================================================
(HTPC1) HDHomerun - 270029878 CAPTURE ATTEMPT : McHale's Navy - The Day They Captured Santa Claus
AIRS : WXINDT2 - 10/11/11 13:59-14:31 Episode #: EP000028460012
(HTPC1) HDHomerun - 270029878 *** CAPTURE SCHEDULE FAILED *** : McHale's Navy - The Day They Captured Santa Claus

Well.....
I just tried to capture it on my second box and it accepted it....strainge.
Looking through my up-coming captures, I can see that the first box would be busy. Yet CW_epg didn't pass the opportunity on to the other idle boxes????

Thanks Much
post #3544 of 3896
No more hdhomerun updates for me.
post #3545 of 3896
Quote:
Originally Posted by ccrider2 View Post

(HTPC1) HDHomerun - 270029878 *** CAPTURE SCHEDULE FAILED *** : McHale's Navy - The Day They Captured Santa Claus

Well.....
I just tried to capture it on my second box and it accepted it....strainge.
Looking through my up-coming captures, I can see that the first box would be busy. Yet CW_epg didn't pass the opportunity on to the other idle boxes????

Thanks Much

If the log says "CAPTURE SCHEDULE FAILED", then CW-EPG did not pass it along to another unit cause it didn't think it needed to.

That error would indicate that CW-EPG attempted to schedule to that particular unit, but for some reason something went wrong. I would suggest a reboot to re-iniatilize cwhelper and its communications with the HDHomeRun unit.
post #3546 of 3896
Hopefully just a fluke. The system has been rebooted and no problem today.

Thanks
post #3547 of 3896
While my area has not officially gone to DST yet (I think it will this weekend), ever since Monday when I start CWEPG the lineup is early by one hour. I have ensured my Win2K PC has the DST patch, and have fiddled with the PC time settings all to no avail.

Do we have a problem with SD?

I run MyHD as tuner/app.
post #3548 of 3896
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Originally Posted by timka View Post

While my area has not officially gone to DST yet (I think it will this weekend), ever since Monday when I start CWEPG the lineup is early by one hour. I have ensured my Win2K PC has the DST patch, and have fiddled with the PC time settings all to no avail.

Do we have a problem with SD?

I run MyHD as tuner/app.

I'm running XP Pro....All my schedules for today and tomorrow look right. Odd though, something scheduled for 1pm didn't schedule on the 1st tuner of a dual HDHomerun tuner, it skipped it and went to #2...Like something was already set to record on #1.
post #3549 of 3896
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by timka View Post

While my area has not officially gone to DST yet (I think it will this weekend)....

Are you in the Southern Hemisphere? Up here in North America, we're going off Daylight Savings Time this weekend.

W2K is notoriously difficult to set up properly for DST/ST ever since the gummint began shuffling the dates and MSFT stopped supporting it with proper updates. (You have to run a maintenance tool and manually enter the corrections) SD and CW_EPG time settings this week are working correctly under both WinXP and W7 AFAICT.
post #3550 of 3896
Off ... On ... who can remember. We're considered silly enough to actually do this in the first place (Yes, I'm in the red, white and blue . . .).

So I guess I have to dig in to the Win2K DST issues again.

I'll be interested to see if it clears up on its own this coming Monday.

Thanks - TK
post #3551 of 3896
Turns out all is well after officially starting DST. Must have been another W2k DST glitch.

TimKa
post #3552 of 3896
I meant 'ending' DST
post #3553 of 3896
Thread Starter 
You do know that you can edit your own posts, right?
post #3554 of 3896
Hey everyone. I am experimenting with setting up my older (circa 2005) HTPC/DVR, which utilizes CW_EPG, to automatically go into hibernation mode when there is no activity. Up to this point, my efforts have not been successful. Here's what I have tried up to this point.

First, I set up CW_EPG to automatically download EPG data and to schedule the recordings on the Match list. Of course, it can wake up the PC from hibernate/standby in order to do so.

Then I configured the OS (WinXP Pro 32-bit SP3) to automatically go into hibernation after 15 minutes of inactivity. This was set up via:
Control Panel -> Power Options

This setup was not entirely successful. Sometimes the PC does not go into hibernation after 15 minutes. When hibernation occurs, though, CW_EPG will corrrectly wake up the PC from hibernation to do the daily automated Download EPG/Schedule Matches, or to perform a scheduled recording.

Whenever I notice that the HTPC is not hibernating when it should be, I have been putting it in hibernation mode manually (via the Windows START button on the taskbar). Again, CW_EPG never fails to wake the PC from an instance of hibernation which is manually set.

Next, I decided to try using a .CMD file in conjunction with Scheduled Tasks to see if I could get a scheduled automatic hibernate to work, in the event that the PC fails to hibernate after 15 minutes of inactivity, via the Power Options setting.

So I created a .CMD file in Notepad, which consists of the following line:

Quote:


%windir%\\System32\
undll32.exe powrprof.dll,SetSuspendState

Then I created a Scheduled Task item utilizing the .CMD file to automatically put the PC into hibernation. There was a problem however. The XP system could create the Scheduled Task, but because no login password was provided for the creation of the Scheduled Task (since no password was established when the OS was installed), it would not run.

Next, I found a way to get around the Scheduled Task password problem (in WinXP Professional), using the solution given by the following link:

http://yabfog.com/blog/2005/10/06/sc...sks_without_a_

From the above source:
"For XP Pro: Go to Start/Administrative Tools/Local Security Policy/Security Settings/Local Policies/Security Options
Accounts: Limit local account use of blank passwords to console logon only. This is enabled by default, disable it."

And while this did make the Scheduled Task item work to hibernate the system at a specified time, in the end it was still a big fail because CW_EPG fails to wake up the system when it is hibernated in this manner.

So... does anyone here know why CW_EPG could wake the system from hibernation instances invoked from
1. Control Panel -> Power Options
2. manually placing the PC in hibernation...

... and yet fail to wake the system from hibernation when invoked via Scheduled Tasks and a .CMD file? Is my .CMD file command line incorrect? (Maybe I'm missing some command switch in the command line?)

And finally, does anyone here know of a proper command line to restart the PC? I would like to write it into a .BAT or .CMD file and see if I can restart the PC using Scheduled Tasks.

If you made it this far, thanks for reading. I look forward to any feedback or suggestions
post #3555 of 3896
Thread Starter 
Vlad, it's time for you to read sfhub's marvelous MyHD MetaFAQ and note especially the item regarding my Poor Man's Power Options (specifically A.5, which dates back to when not all ACPI implementations worked very well). You'll find there that the widely publicized methods for inducing hibernation are not compatible with Windows Scheduled Tasks. (I.e., scheduled tasks get wiped out!) But there is at least one solution given in the MetaFAQ.
post #3556 of 3896
Quote:
Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Vlad, it's time for you to read sfhub's marvelous MyHD MetaFAQ and note especially the item regarding my Poor Man's Power Options (specifically A.5, which dates back to when not all ACPI implementations worked very well). You'll find there that the widely publicized methods for inducing hibernation are not compatible with Windows Scheduled Tasks. (I.e., scheduled tasks get wiped out!) But there is at least one solution given in the MetaFAQ.

Thanks. Went to the MetaFAQ, and am trying to set up PoormansPowerOptions.bat.

I am trying to set up the first PoormansPowerOptions code given in A.5 of the MetaFAQ, the one which requires the two files tlist.exe and hibernate(neverforce).exe. I have both utilities on the PC, both stored at the root, C:\\.

Should I move them somewhere else before using PoormansPowerOptions.bat? Wasn't sure about where to put them.

Also, I noticed these lines in the .bat file:

Code:
rem chk for CW_EPG, MyHD, or FusionHDTV running
for /f "tokens=1" %%a in ('tlist.exe ^| find /i "MyHD.exe"') do set pid=%%a 
for /f "tokens=1" %%a in ('tlist.exe ^| find /i "FusionHDTV.exe"') do set pid=%%a 
for /f "tokens=1" %%a in ('tlist.exe ^| find /i "CW_EPG.exe"') do set pid=%%a
My HTPC also runs HDHomerun, so is there a .exe file I should add to this list for HDHR as well?

Sorry for my lack of understanding here

Many thanks, once again.
post #3557 of 3896
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlad Theimpaler View Post


... I have both utilities on the PC, both stored at the root, C:\\.

Should I move them somewhere else before using PoormansPowerOptions.bat? ....

My HTPC also runs HDHomerun, so is there a .exe file I should add to this list for HDHR as well?...

Location of support files is arbitrary, but probably simplest to put them in Windows folder so you don't have to add a PATH.

HDHR adds complication though because its control program (cw_helper) is always running. (Dale, can you provide a clue for detecting HDHR in-progress recording from a bat file? IIRC, you run a SD exe for those so that could be added to the code that Vlad quoted)

EDIT: I should probably have explained that I'm on the road today and couldn't check this out myself, but I think that the exe you'd add to the "must runs" is something like "hdhomerun_config.exe".
post #3558 of 3896
Vlad:
It might be worth some time to try to figure out why the PC doesn't always hibernate. There could be many reasons but the most likely are that some app is running that blocks hibernation (most multimedia players do that) or that an event occurs that resets the timer (slight mouse movement is sufficient).

On my elderly HTPC (Asus A7N8X-E MB) I haven't seen a failure to try to hibernate when it should, but sometimes it goes through the hibernation save routine, then reboots. Could be power supply or bad caps on the MB.

Not directly related to your problem, I do have one extra setting to ensure startup that you may or may not be able to implement. My MB BIOS lets me set a time to awaken from full shutdown, which I set to 5 minutes before it should awaken from hibernation for CW_EPG to get schedules and set recordings. So it should boot up in time for CW_EPG regardless of how it was shut down.
post #3559 of 3896
Where does CW_EPG keep the "Capture History" database ?
Mine is always blank, so I think that I either have a permission problem or a corrupted file somewhere.

Running under Win7 x64.
post #3560 of 3896
ProgramData\\CW_EPG\\cw_record.mdb
post #3561 of 3896
Quote:
Originally Posted by hdtvincr View Post

ProgramData\\CW_EPG\\cw_record.mdb

Thanks, I have reset the permission to my ProgramData\\CW_EPG\\... to Everyone: Full Control. And everything seems to be working now.
The only symptom was it left in that directory a bunch of MDBXXX.tmp but no error message.
post #3562 of 3896
Hi,

I discovered this news (A bit old) that scares me.

http://www.schedulesdirect.org/

Quote:


August 30th 2011

Membership fees going up on Sept 1


Despite our best efforts to keep our operating costs as close to zero as possible, a steady decline in membership since mid-2009 has finally pushed us to the point that the Board of Schedules Direct has determined that we must raise our annual membership fee. As of Sept 1, the annual membership fee will be raised to $25, with the 2-month trial membership adjusted accordingly to $6.

Though we don't know the exact cause of the decline, we suspect that it is a combination of the increasing prevalence of TV DRM which is incompatible with open source applications like MythTV, and alternate sources of guide data (most of which are neither legitimate nor legal).

...

SHF
post #3563 of 3896
Though not mentioned directly in SHF's citation, one alternate source of guide data that is legitimate, legal, free (after initial purchase) and apparently very popular is Windows 7 Media Center. It also supports all the DRM the MPAA wants to burden us with. I follow the HDHomeRun forum and the 7MC thread gets many more posts than any of the other threads do. As more people replace their aging computers with current ones that come with Win7 and 7MC already installed I expect paid subscriptions to dwindle even further.

As for the price increase, I understand why it has to and it's still a good deal. I'd be paying a lot more than that if I had a TiVo to support.
post #3564 of 3896
Thread Starter 
Yes indeed, I had the same thoughts, ebo. WMC has been a sure thing to wipe out the competition for a long time now because of its Windows integration.
post #3565 of 3896
I haven't read this whole thread but I wanted to say I just added a HD Home Run Prime to my setup and CWEPG does support it but only in clear QAM mode of course. That means it use the RF numbers rather then the virtual ones, and it cannot do any of the encrypted channels, for those you have to use Media center or something that supports the DRM included with the cable card setup.
I tried a couple of recordings quickly with the timer and it captured two channels at once and the video and audio was fine, it will not see the third tuner but still detects my old Divco Fusion 3 gold too though for now it doesn't have a cable feed as I had to plug that one into the prime.
I might use it to capture my local HD channels but everything else needs WMC, WMC doesn't save the file names right so unless you use the media player only you don't have the episode name to go with the title seeing how everyone uses a media player that can support the guide info mostly now.
If I get the old card a feed I guess I'd have 3 tuners available at once, maybe 4 if I can get it to see that third one, plus the media center to do all the other channels with 3 tuners, and maybe the old one if I set that up too.
post #3566 of 3896
Thread Starter 
Dartman, I'm not clear on whether or not it would be possible to support the premium channels of the Prime with CW_EPG. I think that it would be, but the developers lack the necessary hardware to test it and I suspect that the potential client base (in light of the WMC unfair advantage of a free guide) would not justify the effort.

Why have you not already switched control of all of your tuners to WMC? Maybe I'm missing a key aspect here.
post #3567 of 3896
I have switched it but I like your CWEPG so I wanted to see if it would at least work for the in the clear stuff which it does. I like the default naming options EPG has because WMC doesn't care and assumes you use their interface and guide. I use my media player and haven't figured out a media wall or other system that will display the titles the way WMC does so I need to have Title and episode at least to make it easier to sort through later.
I may end up redoing my old tuner so it can stand alone and do the locals with EPG and I figured it might be news to some that this thing will at least work somewhat with your system as you can use it without a cable card if you want then it acts like a regular clear QAM tuner so WMC's advantage may not be quite as good in that limited case. To use the whole capability of the prime with cable card you would have to recognize and allow the DRM stuff that Microsoft has plenty of money and customers to support so I don't expect you to ever fully support it, though it would be nice to find a alternative to WMC just on general principle as I never intended to use it and had disabled much of it that I had to re enable to make the new toy fully work.
Now I have to do extra conversions to edit my captures and of course anything from a movie channel is copy once so no editing or playing on anything but the box that captured it.
I also had to edit the registry to get WMC to save the files with title and episode which was a bother.
I'm not worried about paying 20 or 25 a year to have a guide and I like to support open source type stuff that works well.
post #3568 of 3896
Has anyone purchased the latest version of the HDHomerun dual tuner (HDHR3) and successfully added it to CW_EPG? I have the older version (white) HDHR dual tuner, but I'm thinking of adding another unit to my network... so I thought I'd check here first before taking the plunge. Thanks in advance for any responses.
post #3569 of 3896
Thread Starter 
Vlad, it would be good to hear from someone who's got the HDHR3, but based on Dartman's experience posted in a couple of notes just above, indicating that even the Prime tuners use the same interface software as the older ones, I'd guess that it will work just fine.
post #3570 of 3896
Quote:
Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Vlad, it would be good to hear from someone who's got the HDHR3, but based on Dartman's experience posted in a couple of notes just above, indicating that even the Prime tuners use the same interface software as the older ones, I'd guess that it will work just fine.

Thanks a bunch for the quick response. Sounds reassuring.

FYI, *Newegg is selling HDHR3 for $89.99 + $6.95 shipping.*

For those who want the older model (which we know works with CW_EPG), *Digital Connection is closing out their inventory of these, selling them for $79.00, the lowest price I've ever seen for that older dual-tuner unit.*
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