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40" Westinghouse LTV-40W1 Discussion Thread

post #1 of 28
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This set showed up today at our local BB, does any know anything about it?

It has a front slot loading dvd player, which is a neat feature. The BB price is very reasonable as well for a 40". I was thinking this set and the Yamaha YSP-800 speaker would make a nice low-profile system.

Here's a link to Westinghouse's site:

http://www.westinghousedigital.com/p...dvd-combo.aspx
post #2 of 28
Hmm............... saw it and picture looked a bit soft and lacking zing, if you know what I mean. But what you'll need is an in-home review from someone who's taken the plunge. Haven't seen many professional reviews of W sets, so it may be a while before one appears.
post #3 of 28
I have this set at home and can answer questions. I do not have a lot of in-home experience with large sets though, so I don't know if can make objective comparisons with other TVs.

The LTV-40w1hdc was my choice for two major reasons: price and weight. I was able to talk BB down to [EDIT] for this set w/ Comcast sign-up for HD service. The weight also allows me to move this set by myself which is important as I live alone.

I use the 6214rev3 Comcast cable box and have both the component and HDMI connected. The HDMI is slightly sharper and shows more contrast than component input, but the difference is very slight.

The main thing I notice is that the set shows every flaw in broadcast TV. Analog stations look very bad when the cable box is set for 480p for 4:3 display. For some reason the 40w1 prefers 480i for analog. 720i/p and 1080i signals look sharp to me but the large screen shows every compression artifact. For example, the NCAA men's champ. bball game was horribly pixelated, but the ESPN-HD of the women's game was far superior. I am not happy that I pay a premium price for cable service only to have Comcast compress the signal to an almost unwatchable state.

The built-in DVD player seems ok, but I find the picture from my 480p player through the component inputs preferable. I don't know why exactly, but it just looks more natural to me. The D5.1 sound from the built-in player also seems poor (see below).

Of course, one issue for all large LCDs is the ghosting effect when watching sports. I never notice it for dramas and DVDs. But for a sports close-up of a player walking about, you can see some ghosting. The wide shots of team play look good to me -- I only notice the ghosting on close-ups where the player fills a large portion of the screen. The amout of ghosting also seems to be dependent on the quality of the signal -- better signals show less ghosting.

The biggest complaint I have is the poor remote which requires navigating through the menu for many common tasks such as PIP. You also cannot directly select the HDMI input for some reason and have to cycle the input list.

The sound on this set is poor. It does not remember the speaker setting between power ons (defaults to internal) and has a powerful "thump" on power-up to the analog outputs that triggers my A/V receiver to shut off. I can't use the SPDIF output so I don't know if it is better quality. It does seem to pass the cable box sound through ok, but I will probably just turn the volume of the set to zero and just use my A/V receiver for all audio feeds.

Computer display at 1360x768 using the VGA input seems excellent, but I haven't played Doom III on it yet.

I am still on my 30 day trial and have not decided on this set yet. When the input signal is good, the TV seems to have a nice picture. DVDs using 480p to a component input look good to me and I can get lost in the drama. The set shows every flaw in your HDTV feed -- so prepare to see widely varying quality in the picture depending on the source. Again, the price and weight for a 40" TV are the major attractions for the 40w1.

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Michael
post #4 of 28
Sorry, I butchered the Comcast cable box number. It is the Motorola DCT6412 rev 3 which does provide a working HDMI port, but no DVI-D.

There were complaints in past reviews for earlier Westinghouse LCDs that the component inputs were very noisy. Based on my comparison between the component inputs and HDMI on the 40w1, I don't think it is a problem with this new set.

I'd like to hear from anyone else that has comments about this set's performance vs. plasma and other LCDs. It may not perform as well as the Sony XBR, but the MSRP is almost half the Sony 40". The weight is also half that of plasmas.

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Michael
post #5 of 28
Peter Putnam called this one of the best LCD's he's seen. I don't have enough posts to put a URL up yet, but his review is on hdtvexpert
post #6 of 28
Two questions regarding the LTV-40w1 HDC

What is the latest firmware version supposed to be?

Does it use a different key-combo than the 42" 1080P model, to enter the service menu? I've tried PeterS' method to no avail.
post #7 of 28
I just bought the LTV40w1HDC last night at BB. Can anyone suggest some calibration settings to get me headed in the right direction? I primarily watch DVDs on the set. Also, I've read that this set cannot display nonanamorphic DVDs correctly due to only having Standard/Fill options. Does this mean it will display anamorphic DVDs ok? Thanks.

Adam
post #8 of 28
Hi GamesforOne,

Thank you for the informative post as I am close to buying a set and was eyeing this set yesterday at BB. You mentioned how the picture looks in Analog. Are you saying Analog as in antenna-only or analog through a digital box (i.e non HDTV = analog)?

If I get this set I will be using it with DirecTV standard definition and not HD, so I am wondering what type of picture to expect.

Any comments by anyone greatly appreciated.

Good thread!
post #9 of 28
One other question. Would the internal DVD player be of equal or similar quality to a DVD player with HDMI output? Thanks.
post #10 of 28
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Originally Posted by acsulliv View Post

Does this mean it will display anamorphic DVDs ok? Thanks.

Adam

Anamorphic DVD's play fine.
post #11 of 28
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Originally Posted by acsulliv View Post

One other question. Would the internal DVD player be of equal or similar quality to a DVD player with HDMI output? Thanks.


It's not really apples to apples.

This is a standard DVD player feeding internally and the TV is performing the scaling.

I can't notice any discernable difference from an external Progressive scan player.
post #12 of 28
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Originally Posted by gamesforone View Post

Analog stations look very bad when the cable box is set for 480p for 4:3 display. For some reason the 40w1 prefers 480i for analog. ---
Michael


Since the analog stations are 480i, it's quite possible that upconverting them in cable box then sending them to the TV for further upconversion is killing the picture.

Leaving them native (at 480i) and letting the TV do the only conversion should look better.
post #13 of 28
Has anyone connected this set to a DirecTV H20 HighDef receiver via HDMI?

I just got the H20-600 and tried using the HDMI connection. The video is fine, but the audio has some sibilance (lispy noise) issues.

Using Component with 2ch Audio is clean.

I've had this set since March, and for a bedroom TV it's great. The only thing that sucks is the service codes for the other Westinghouse TV's don't work on this set and I can't find the codes anywhere. I'd like to adjust the colors a little. They tend to be a little too pink.
post #14 of 28
Can anyone tell me their feelings on the digital audio out? I assume the SPDIF port is the digital out correct? (I don't know what SPDIF stands for). How's the sound going to a decent AVR and speaker set-up? This is a possible deal breaker for me.
post #15 of 28
anyone still have one of these? they are a good price now at the local B&B..
post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by calvinb View Post

Can anyone tell me their feelings on the digital audio out? I assume the SPDIF port is the digital out correct? (I don't know what SPDIF stands for). How's the sound going to a decent AVR and speaker set-up? This is a possible deal breaker for me.

SPDIF - Sony/Philips Digital Interface - It's a standards based digital audio connection.

There's nothing special about the digital out, it just passes the digital audio stream. It really comes down to the audio system it's connected to and the acoustics of the room.
post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by calvinb View Post

anyone still have one of these? they are a good price now at the local B&B..

I have one and my sister-in-law has one. We both use them as bedroom TV's and we both love them. I have HD service from DirecTV and she has HD from Comcast.
post #18 of 28
rdraff, thanks for the replies. I bought one over the weekend and am very pleased so far. I am just starting to tweak the settings and get used to it. Any advice on image settings? Also, I've played a few DVD's and can't get widescreen DVD's to fill the screen (on the side) without going from "Standard" to "Fill" mode. I'm not too impressed with that. Is there something I am missing here? thanks for any help.
post #19 of 28
I took the plunge today. BB has these on closeout and I got the last one new in the box. At the price they had it at, it was worth the gamble. The picture on high def looks good. SD isn't bad on standard mode, but obvious begins to look worse when streched to fill. The DVD picture looks really good, I was pleasantly suprised. Blacks still suck, but with my kids getting to watch their DVDS on it and often getting left on the menu page when their done, plasma wasn't an option. Don't have anything hooked up to it, but that was kind of the point of getting an all in one unit. Will probably keep it, but it does have some negatives.

1.) The remote sucks. Some times you get a great response and others, nothing.
2.) QAM tuner needs work. Mine picks up everything and so I'm getting 300 channels in HDTV mode, only most of them won't display anything. The delete channel system won't work. The main locals revert to the 2-1, 10-1, 10-2, etc... system, but the rest of the channels are number in a 107-0001 fashion. When I venture into those I'm getting movies channels etc... that aren't in my package but I tend to get freezes trying to go between them. Tried mapping them to the favorites buttons and when I pushed one it told me no HDTV channels detected. I couldn't get teh TV to rescan them, ultimately had to shut the TV down and start over. TV must scan all channels and wouldn't let you manually punch in the HDTV channels.
3.) When switching between HDTV and TV, I can use the TV button, but to go back to HDTV I have to select it in the menu. Why not put an HDTV quick button (an HDMI button would have been nice too).
4.) DVD picture setting same as TV setting. I tend to watch TV in a lit room and DVD'd in the dark, so it would have been nice to select these setting independently.
5.) When watching TV speakers are loud. I usually set the volume at 6 out of what looks to be 100. This is not a negative, but what is, is the fact that I have to set the volume to 50 when I watch the internal DVD player.

I may go back and get the 4 year warranty as even with it, the TV will cost about what I could have gotten it for on the internet. It looks like I'll be in and out of the menu a lot on this set.
post #20 of 28
I don't have a lot of experience with LCD|Plasma but I bought the LTV-40 w1 and so far I am happy with it.

I had previously bought the Akai 42" Plasma monitor and I hated it, Sams took it back after 3 weeks and I bought the "Westy"

I could not get the Sa8300hd remote control to work with the Akai, but the first Sony code that I tried with the LTV-40w1 worked.

There were other things I did not like about the Akai, but am generally happy with the LTV-40

Jim
post #21 of 28
Took it back. To many issues with how it handled (or didn't handle) incoming high def signals. Hated to see it go, as I won't come with-in a couple of hundred bucks of what I paid for this one on my next 40" screen, but I had to admit it was doing a pretty crappy job. When the HDMI hook-up (two seperate devices) came out with strange aspect ratios, it was the final straw and it was time to go. Westinghouse customer service never responded to my emails on the other issues, so I easn't to impressed with their support either.
post #22 of 28
Just bought one the other day for a steal so I'm willing to test it out and see if I can put up with the small issues mentioned above. After reading the thread I still haven't seen anyone comment on the optimal settings for the unit. Can some of you owners out there share your settings for the rest of us? I'd at least like to have a good baseline to start from. Thanks.
post #23 of 28
Vegas I'll check mine and share them with you. I have some "decent" settings that might help. Meanwhile if anyone ever figures out how to get a widescreen dvd to fill the screen width-wise (WITHOUT using the "fill" function), please let me know. That's the one thing I don't like about this display.
post #24 of 28
Has anyone experienced a problem where HD channels are simply not retained after you turn the TV off and you have to do a full scan (which takes 5mins) to get the channels back?
Also, I saw some folks asking for the access codes to get into more detailed settings so wondering if somebody could share those?

-J
post #25 of 28
Hey guys. I just bought a used Westinghouse LTV-40w1 HDC to have when I work conferences. I got it really cheap (second hand) because it had sound but no picture. I checked the power board capacitors, the AV board capacitors, and both of the inverter board capacitors. All of them checked out fine. The back light comes on and there is a faint haze of color but no picture whatsoever. Would you recommend replacing the inverter board(s) or should I be looking elsewhere...or did I buy a very large paperweight? Any help would be useful. I know it's not a highly rated tv but I just needed a sizeable screen for an AV presentation for an upcoming conference.

Thanks!!!
post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by Reel Fanatic View Post

Hey guys. I just bought a used Westinghouse LTV-40w1 HDC to have when I work conferences. I got it really cheap (second hand) because it had sound but no picture. I checked the power board capacitors, the AV board capacitors, and both of the inverter board capacitors. All of them checked out fine. The back light comes on and there is a faint haze of color but no picture whatsoever. Would you recommend replacing the inverter board(s) or should I be looking elsewhere...or did I buy a very large paperweight? Any help would be useful. I know it's not a highly rated tv but I just needed a sizeable screen for an AV presentation for an upcoming conference.

Thanks!!!

if you can see that the backlight is on and stays on its most likely not the power supply and definitely not the ballast board

take a look at this document from sony

http://www.scribd.com/doc/25276757/E...g-10-22-09-OPT

read the part about troubleshooting a dead TCON it will tell you a method you can try to see if the TCON reacts to getting its cable pulled when the TV is on to help determine if the problem is the TCON or the mainboard

i'm going to say its prolly the mainboard that is bad though considering you get no picture at all because bad TCON's will normally garble the screen or make it look funky
post #27 of 28
Frito-

It is because of people like you that I have become an AVSForum junky! I will chase this down over the weekend while my kids play in the snow! Thanks for you help and I will post up what I am able to find. Hopefully it's just the main. I think they're pretty easy to find on ebay or ShopJimmys.com.

Did I forget to say that AVS Forum is awesome?
post #28 of 28
HELP!!! I tried to install the new firmware from westinghouse for my LTV 40W1 HDC. It said it was a successfull upgrade but now the TV won't work. It's just stuck on the logo. I tried to do the upgrade a second (and third) time and it goes through the process and says upgrade is good but just the logo. It's been a couple of days and Westinghouse said they would send me the old firmware for installation. Has anybody else run into this? Is there another source for the old firmware?
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