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Is there such a thing? Basically I want a DVR that will function like a VCR...Plug in my cable from the wall into the DVR, set it up to record certain times, just like a VCR, but without tapes, and with digital quality. Is there such a thing? I just don't see why where has to be a monthly fee involved, I didn't have to pay monthly to record tv shows onto vcr to view at a later time, why should I have to pay monthly to do this?

Also, do any of them double as a tv tuner, need one to go with my Panasonic AE900U projector.
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Is there such a thing? Basically I want a DVR that will function like a VCR...Plug in my cable from the wall into the DVR, set it up to record certain times, just like a VCR, but without tapes, and with digital quality. Is there such a thing?
Well they all basically do that, except insted of setting the start time and channel you just go the the guide and select the program you want to record. The DVR automatically starts at the right time and on the right channel. I know my Tivo can be "programmed" the old way, set time and channel manually, but I don't know if thay all can.
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I just don't see why where has to be a monthly fee involved, I didn't have to pay monthly to record tv shows onto vcr to view at a later time, why should I have to pay monthly to do this?
Because thats how they (the DVR companies) make money. Blame the long line of DVR owners that preceaded you. If from the start people said "I am not going to pay a monthly fee to use a glorified VCR that I alredy paid for and own" then we would not be in the boat we are now. Tivo used to sell a "lifetime" subscription but even they recently dropped that.

If you are good with computers you can set up a "Myth TV" box and have a DVR that has no monthly fee. Or try to find an old Tivo on E-bay that has its lifetime subscription intact, as the subscription stays with the box not the person who paid for it.
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Also, do any of them double as a tv tuner, need one to go with my Panasonic AE900U projector.
Yes but far as I know none (except for cable company provided ones) will tune digital cable channels.
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I did some looking around and found this, The Toshiba RD-XS52. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems to do everything that I need it to do, plus it upconverts DVD's to 720p and outputs them through HDMI.

Now since it has an RF input will I be able to hook my cable into this, and then use it to watch and record tv on my Projector?
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I did some looking around and found this, The Toshiba RD-XS52. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems to do everything that I need it to do, plus it upconverts DVD's to 720p and outputs them through HDMI.

Now since it has an RF input will I be able to hook my cable into this, and then use it to watch and record tv on my Projector?
The RD-SX54 looks even better as it records in HD but it it twice the price as the XS52.

Anyway it looks like they will tune the ANALOG cable channels as I see no mention of Quam tuning.
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I picked up a toshiba rd-xs34 a couple of months ago. I absolutely love it. It can do all you want it to. We have it hooked straight into the cable outlet, and it records anything you want (Except DVD's with Macrovision).

You will be happy with any of these DVR's. I have a panny 900 also, and I use the Panny's scaler. It works fine. If I have a 16:9 movie, I set it up for that aspect ratio, and it looks great with the Panny's scaler.

Go for it. You'll absolutely love it.

Also, it has the TV guide feature, which allows it to work sort of like TIVO, but with no monthly fees. It is the only way to go.

Chase feature is also way cool, don't have to wait until the recording is done to start watching it.

BTW, I don't think the RD-XS54 records in HD (High Definition) but onto an HD (Hard Disk). I may be wrong, but I don't see anywhere in the specs that say you can record HDTV. If you could, it would be the bomb!

The 34 holds about 80 hrs of dvd quality SD on the hard drive. It rocks...

Just my opinion.....

Ken
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Originally Posted by w00t!
Is there such a thing? Basically I want a DVR that will function like a VCR...Plug in my cable from the wall into the DVR, set it up to record certain times, just like a VCR, but without tapes, and with digital quality. Is there such a thing? I just don't see why where has to be a monthly fee involved, I didn't have to pay monthly to record tv shows onto vcr to view at a later time, why should I have to pay monthly to do this?

Also, do any of them double as a tv tuner, need one to go with my Panasonic AE900U projector.
You don't need to pay a monthly fee if you get a TiVO w/lifetime subscription (going away as an option on 4/15/06). At $30-80 for the unit and $299 for lifetime, the breakeven point for the subscription is ~23 months.

I've owned Tivos in one form or another since March 2001 and they're GREAT. I put lifetime on all my standalone TiVos. They totally change the way you watch TV.

If you get a real PVR (like a TiVo or Replay), at least w/TiVo (Replay has something similar), you just find the shows you want by title, keyword, actor, director, etc. and tell it to record. There's no screwing around w/channel, start/end time and date. If you like a series, just get a season pass (costs nothing). It automatically records all occurrences of that show on that channel and is generally intelligent about not recording dupes. If it misses 1 showing due to a (time) conflict, it'll record the next showing.

Having to screw with start/end times like VCR w/o tapes is silly and a waste of time.

You can also see auto-record wishlists (Replay has something similiar). Say, I'm interested in catching something about Boeing or want to catch all the shows and movies w/Angelina Jolie or Jennifer Aniston in them. I can set an ARWL to record these and when something comes up that matches the criteria, it auto-records it for me. (FYI, on the cheapest English package of DirecTV which is what I subscribe to, I see 5 things w/Angelina Jolie and 36 things w/Jennifer Aniston [mostly Friends episodes] in the next 2 weeks.)
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Hi,
Just wondered if you ever found an answer to that....using a DVR as a VCR and not paying for the service?
TIA,
J
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