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post #31 of 3969
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonydeluce
If Sony dropped the 60 in. size on the 2006 XBR line this is a very good sign
that we are in for one hell of a set. There is only an incremental difference
in Sony's cost from a 60 in. to a 70 in. RP set since all of the light engine, optics,
electronics would be identical. So if Sony cannot produce the 60 in. XBR and
sell for a profit a $5499 then that means it is very likely they are going to go all
out on the 2006 70in. Sony XBR.

I cannot wait to see the baby!

I hope and pray that that it will do native 1080p24/48 and 1080p60 by
multisyncing.

This set may turn out to be an SED killer :-) Or least something that will
satisfy us until 80 in. SED becomes a reality...
But on the other hand, for those of us interested in a 50" 2006 SXRD, is it a downgrade (engine wise) from the 2005 model? Another words, since there will be no new 50" XBR's, is it better to get a 2005 50" XBR, even with the ears and the possibility of color issues? Doesn't even sound like the new 50" A2000 will accept 1080p.
post #32 of 3969
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Originally Posted by lipcrkr
But on the other hand, for those of us interested in a 50" 2006 SXRD, is it a downgrade (engine wise) from the 2005 model? Another words, since there will be no new 50" XBR's, is it better to get a 2005 50" XBR, even with the ears and the possibility of color issues? Doesn't even sound like the new 50" A2000 will accept 1080p.
I bet money that it isn't a downgrade. There is no way that Sony is going to go
backwards in PQ for the 50in., 60 in., and (now) 55in. I believe the A2000 will be
at least as good PQ wise as the 2005 SXRDs ( but I wouldn't expect anything
dramtically better ) and also provide 1080p HDMI inputs.
post #33 of 3969
Im still confuse why the DRC circutry function is so important.What does it do or benefit?Also i read in one post not all Sony's including the A seriews of Bravia dont use a wega engine.That was strange to me since the Grand Wega RP say it on the top left.Any explanation for this either?
post #34 of 3969
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonydeluce
I bet money that it isn't a downgrade. There is no way that Sony is going to go
backwards in PQ for the 50in., 60 in., and (now) 55in. I believe the A2000 will be
at least as good PQ wise as the 2005 SXRDs ( but I wouldn't expect anything
dramtically better ) and also provide 1080p HDMI inputs.

Tony,

If nothing else, I think we can all say a great big "AMEN BROTHER" to moving those speakers to the bottom.

What you want to bet that Sony reuses the cabinet from the 006 for the 70" and only changes some color somewhere on it? Clue is the removable speakers from an earlier post in this thread.
post #35 of 3969
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Originally Posted by hi im drummer03
Im still confuse why the DRC circutry function is so important.What does it do or benefit?Also i read in one post not all Sony's including the A seriews of Bravia dont use a wega engine.That was strange to me since the Grand Wega RP say it on the top left.Any explanation for this either?
DRC circuitry increases the signal to noise ratio to give better resolution to a given source. Another words, a display with a well funtioning DRC will render a better SD picture. It fills in the blank pixels which eliminates a lot of the noise and artifacts common on SD signals. In reality, you could have 2 sets side by side, one with DRC and the other without it and not tell the difference although a 1080p set may show more of a difference than a 720p display because of all the downrezing.
post #36 of 3969
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Originally Posted by gremmy
Dare I wish for the 10 bit version of DRC-MF V2? This is the processor in the Sony Ruby FP that beat several dedicated outboard processors in a comparison.

If they put that processor in the XBR, it's a major plus.
That would be a major improvement and I would buy the set again as we found SD unwatchable. Perhaps the power of improved DRC from Ruby and inclusion of something like DVDO has developed this month as an add-on to the VP-30(video processor) and will probably be standard in the VP40 later this year.

The Precision Deinterlacingâ„¢ Card ABT102D-card - I believe they demo'd it in Orlando with impressive results. The addition of upgrading SD display is a major plus as so many broadcasters are moving so slowly toward HD and magnifying up to 70" needs special processing to provide the other half the equation. Of course it's a wish list since we have no real spec's to nitpick but adding the improved DRC from Ruby could save me $2K from having to add the VP40 - One can hope. :D
post #37 of 3969
Any word on the VGA-input port resolution? I'm really keeping my fingers crossed that it takes 1080p.
post #38 of 3969
ok, So far its been speculated that:

-50, 55 & 60 bravia models
-60 & 70 XBR models

No dumbo ears. Bottom speakers on Bravia. Possible removables on XBR?
New processor in XBR units.
Features missing from Bravia models are in Xbr.
August due date.
prices lower than original releases.

Time to save...let's see at this rate ... $200/week.
No lunch or restaurants for three months :eek:
post #39 of 3969
imo, sony should give us an update on these upcoming models as there are many that will pull the trigger on the new samsung models coming out in the next month if they have no info to hold them over a few more months for the sxrd's.
post #40 of 3969
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Originally Posted by brg606
imo, sony should give us an update on these upcoming models as there are many that will pull the trigger on the new samsung models coming out in the next month if they have no info to hold them over a few more months for the sxrd's.
Don't hold your breath. For that to happen, someone would have to make an intelligent marketing decision! :D
post #41 of 3969
Quote:
Originally Posted by brg606
imo, sony should give us an update on these upcoming models as there are many that will pull the trigger on the new samsung models coming out in the next month if they have no info to hold them over a few more months for the sxrd's.

Looking for some opinions. . . Should I go ahead and pull the trigger on a 2005 sxrd wait for the new one's in July/Aug or the new Samsung in a month?

Money is really not an issue but my impatience is an issue, I need a new TV soon!!! :D
post #42 of 3969
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Originally Posted by tincup78
Looking for some opinions. . . Should I go ahead and pull the trigger on a 2005 sxrd wait for the new one's in July/Aug or the new Samsung in a month?

Money is really not an issue but my impatience is an issue, I need a new TV soon!!! :D
I would wait until Sony announces the featureset so you may make an intellilgent decision comparatively and if that happens about 60 days previous to release you can decide is it worth waiting plus they may reduce and clear current gen sets at that time. All we know for certain is conjecture and some members that say they have connections with Sony but nothing much concrete from Sony.

Many of us went through this wait last summer (1080P craze) even after having 3-4 months advance notice and I had a pre-order with Crutchfield that got delayed 4 times on the SXRD and on the Sammy 3 times on the 6768 it all worked out even though it drove you nuts at the time - I cancelled the Samsung after 3 delays and then put up with 4 delays on the SXRD that I cancelled and then saved $1200 going elsewhere so I had some serendipity but many of us know first hand what your going through. Our benefit last year was we were looking at getting a baby Qualia for a third of the price and that was exciting. I am considering the second gen SXRD if I can refine the SD and reconfigure my viewing room so my wife doesn't object to the large form factor, I need to sneak in a 70" TV and tell her it's a 60" and perhaps she won't notice with the dumbo ears gone? ;)

Patience is bitter but it's fruit is Sweet! :)
post #43 of 3969
Quote:
Originally Posted by brg606
imo, sony should give us an update on these upcoming models as there are many that will pull the trigger on the new samsung models coming out in the next month if they have no info to hold them over a few more months for the sxrd's.
Sony wants to sell there existing models before trying to sell the new ones
post #44 of 3969
Quote:
Originally Posted by westa6969
Patience is bitter but it's fruit is Sweet! :)

I couldn’t have said it better. I have also been waiting since last year. I want a new TV so bad. I have an entertainment center that has had no TV in it since last year at this time. I just couldn’t take it any more and just purchased a 32" S2000 BRAVIA. At least now I can enjoy HDTV. It’s a little small for right now, but at least it will end up in my bedroom later this year when the new 70" rolls in the front door. :cool:
post #45 of 3969
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Originally Posted by EJKrew
Word is that the 2nd generation of SXRD rear projection displays will hit the market in July 2006. My source is reliable within the corporate structure.

Early SXRD facts:

JULY 2006

Screen sizes 50,55 and 60" will comprise the new 'A' series. (SXRD light engine)
These displays will have cabinets with the speakers BELOW the screen.
Price point: Unknown

SEPTEMBER 2006

The 70" (non Qualia) SXRD to be released.
This will be the ONLY 'XBR' display this year.
This display will have DETACHABLE side mounted speakers.
Price point: $7K

Winter/Spring 2007
A 55" SXRD will be released with a depth of 12".


FYI

That information also goes along with our availability sheets at Sears.
post #46 of 3969
Does anyone think that they will come out with an adapter, lets say hdmi to 1080p
post #47 of 3969
Quote:
Originally Posted by bridaguy1
Does anyone think that they will come out with an adapter, lets say hdmi to 1080p
I don't think anyone thinks they will. :)
post #48 of 3969
post #49 of 3969
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amadeuz
IS this the new TV ?
Probably.
post #50 of 3969
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonydeluce
If Sony dropped the 60 in. size on the 2006 XBR line this is a very good sign
that we are in for one hell of a set. There is only an incremental difference
in Sony's cost from a 60 in. to a 70 in. RP set since all of the light engine, optics,
electronics would be identical. So if Sony cannot produce the 60 in. XBR and
sell for a profit a $5499 then that means it is very likely they are going to go all
out on the 2006 70in. Sony XBR.

I cannot wait to see the baby!

I hope and pray that that it will do native 1080p24/48 and 1080p60 by
multisyncing.

This set may turn out to be an SED killer :-) Or least something that will
satisfy us until 80 in. SED becomes a reality...

I hope you're right Tony! Hopefully it will be new "Qualia" type technology at an XBR price. :)

Otherwise...it will be a SERIOUS case of price gouging on Sony's part. :(
post #51 of 3969
Quote:
Originally Posted by thrasher8
I hope you're right Tony! Hopefully it will be new "Qualia" type technology at an XBR price. :)

Otherwise...it will be a SERIOUS case of price gouging on Sony's part. :(

I don’t know if anyone has acknowledged this but. Its entirely possible that Sony is going to continue building the new 50,55,60 in the Stanton PA. plant as the current XBR1s and import the new 70" from Japan where the Qualia 006 is currently being made. This may be one reason why its more expensive.
post #52 of 3969
Quote:
Originally Posted by westa6969
I am considering the second gen SXRD if I can refine the SD and reconfigure my viewing room so my wife doesn't object to the large form factor, I need to sneak in a 70" TV and tell her it's a 60" and perhaps she won't notice with the dumbo ears gone? ;)
Did you ask her nicely if you could make this post, too? ;)

Seriously, though, a 70" would have to be close to the dimensions of the Qualia 006 (75.1" x 47.1" x 24.7" without the speakers). If you had problems with the 60" SXRD at 66.0" x 39.8" x 20.3", I doubt something bigger is gonna fly. At least on form factor grounds.

Incidently, I happen to have the much space. I'm not planning to upgrade for at least another year, so hopefully there will be an 80" in 2007. :D
post #53 of 3969
Quote:
Originally Posted by thrasher8
I hope you're right Tony! Hopefully it will be new "Qualia" type technology at an XBR price. :)

Otherwise...it will be a SERIOUS case of price gouging on Sony's part. :(
Personally I bet it is it going to knock the socks off Qualia 06 owners.

Even the current 2005 SXRDs offer signficantly better CR and shadow
detail then the Qualia 06. If they get the color unifority and Q&C straightened
out and improve CR and BL to the next level, this is going to be *THE* Reference
Stanard that all other sets are measured against :-)
post #54 of 3969
I heard that Sony wanted to make a statement to the people who don't like the speakers on the 2005's. I found a pic of the 2006 XBR SXRDs:



http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/ext1/TV.jpg

:D
post #55 of 3969
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonydeluce
Personally I bet it is it going to knock the socks off Qualia 06 owners.

Even the current 2005 SXRDs offer signficantly better CR and shadow
detail then the Qualia 06. If they get the color unifority and Q&C straightened
out and improve CR and BL to the next level, this is going to be *THE* Reference
Stanard that all other sets are measured against :-)
Most Definitely. TVs just keep getting better every year. I'm willing to bet they will have better pictures in both CR and BL. They will have keep evolving to keep competing with other companies. :)
post #56 of 3969
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Originally Posted by UxiSXRD
I heard that Sony wanted to make a statement to the people who don't like the speakers on the 2005's. I found a pic of the 2006 XBR SXRDs:



http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/ext1/TV.jpg

:D
"This is LAX tower, you are cleared for takeoff".
post #57 of 3969
Quote:
Winter/Spring 2007
A 55" SXRD will be released with a depth of 12".
Hopefully this will be this
post #58 of 3969
Quote:
Originally Posted by DBEX
Hopefully this will be this
Hopefully it will be better than that... I saw the 55 in. slim cabinet proto at
2006 CES and the PQ was noticably less than the 2005 SXRDs - not bad but
definitely not as good...

The 55 in. is a nice size to hang on the wall in the bedroom...
post #59 of 3969
Does anyone here work at Circuit City? I just came back after having a "conversation" with the manager while we were watching a 60" connected to a PC. To make a long story short he kept insisting that the SXRD accepts 1080P thru HDMI and i kept telling him that "sir, you are wrong". What really bothers me is that they are giving prospective buyers false information, either on purpose or just by stupidity. We are talking about the manager of the television dept of a major electronics store. I find this disturbing. I would be interested in hearing from people who work at CC, or even BB.
By the way, they new nothing about the upcomming 2006 SXRD's.
post #60 of 3969
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonydeluce
Hopefully it will be better than that... I saw the 55 in. slim cabinet proto at
2006 CES and the PQ was noticably less than the 2005 SXRDs - not bad but
definitely not as good...

The 55 in. is a nice size to hang on the wall in the bedroom...

Tony,

Did you get a chance to look behind the wall? Just in case the other 12" of depth is back there. :)
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