Originally Posted by N'Yeti
I would think that 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 would be the way that you'd want to go with the output. Have you tried using DVE at either of those two settings (especially with the CRT).
The DVI input on the CRT only supports the RGB color setting. But I tried the other color modes on the Hitachi plasma and got the same 720p/1080i color decoding errors in DVE with all three (RGB, YcbCr 4:4:4 & YCbCr 4:2:2).
I've used the S52 with my Panny ct34wx15 and it produces quite a nice picture at 1080i using HDMI and outputting at 4:4:4.
Those late model Panasonic tubes are beautiful, and have probably the deepest blacks I've seen on an HD display (haven't seen SEDs yet). I like the phosphor response on them better as well, and probably should have gotten one to replace my 4-year old Sony. But I'm afraid the weight issue (and the fact that I had not tried plasma) deterred me from getting another tube. The Sony don't look too terrible with 1080i and a little help in the gamma dept though.
Normally, I run my S77 into the Panny...but the S52 has a nice sharp picture (though as I noted, unless you turn down the color a bit it does push a bit more red that I'd like).
Agreed. Detail seems to be one of the S52's fortes. The HD Picture Enhancer seems to work well at sharpening fine detail without adding the ugly ringing/EE you'd get on some other players (though it enhances mosquito noise a bit as well). I haven't tried the Depth Enhancer yet, and am not sure exactly what that does, but it sounds like some folks like the effect that has as well.
The color decoding will probably be a deal-breaker though, unless there's a feature hidden somewhere that I've missed to correct that. I wish the Gamma control went darker, as well as lighter too. The Gamma on my Sony tube is already light enough, and maxes out at around 2.25. So a control that goes darker would be more useful to me, on that and possibly on an LCD monitor I'm considering.
There are a couple other subtler PQ issues (some possible scaling artifacts that sometimes appear as subtle vertical stripes in darker backgrounds, and some possible motion blur at 1080i) that I'm still looking into as well.
What specific color coding issues are you seeing?
By the way, you will find that running DVE at 1080i on 4:4:4 will look different at 480p.
Perhaps a little different, due to the phosphors on the TV probably only being correct for one color space (NTSC/SD or ATSC/HD). I question whether the difference should be as noticeable as what I'm seeing though. My suspiscion is that the difference in color between 480p and 720p/1080i may be more the result of incorrect 720p/1080i decoding on the S52 than to differences in SD/HD color space. The color doesn't look especially bad at 720p/1080i on my otherwise well-calibrated TV. But it doesn't really look correct, and as you mentioned, appears tipped more towards blue and red.