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post #271 of 380
Yes, DVD-RAM discs are the ones that can do the most on Panny Recorders but unlike the other discs they can't be "Finalized" so they can only play on DVD Players that can play or record RAM discs which in plain english means that they can't be played on most older DVD Players or Newer DVD Recorders from China or Philips Brand Recorders.

Check pages 6 & 7 of the Owners Manual & it will explain what each discs format can & can't do but you'll see RAM discs can do the most on Panny's like Record a 16:9 Wide-Screen Picture, Record A One Copy Only Program, Divide A Program & Cut Commercials out Of a Program & Etc.

DVD-RAM Discs are also said to be able to record up to a 100,000 times on compared to 1,000 for -RW & Once for -R & they may even be even safer to store stuff on for the future without having Picture Fade or Audio Dropouts but only time will tell if they are better or not.
post #272 of 380
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Originally Posted by titsataki View Post

I only saw and bought a Lite on DVD/VCR recorder. But no HDMI.

I looked at Costco and I do not see it on line.


Any input?

thanks

Nick

I was there yesterday, and they still had a whole bunch selling at their regular price. Perhaps your Costco store ran out and if you're looking at their web site, they don't always have or carry the same merchandise as their stores.
post #273 of 380
Hi all,
Is it possible to record a TV show on both the VCR section and DVD section at the same time?
Also, I have a chance to buy a 3 year extended warranty for 20 bucks. Do you think it is worth it? I purchased a Refurbished unit by Panny so that is why I may do it.
My unit is on it's way and I can't wait to use it.
Thanks all
post #274 of 380
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Originally Posted by dopplerbob View Post

Hi all,
Is it possible to record a TV show on both the VCR section and DVD section at the same time?
Also, I have a chance to buy a 3 year extended warranty for 20 bucks. Do you think it is worth it? I purchased a Refurbished unit by Panny so that is why I may do it.
My unit is on it's way and I can't wait to use it.
Thanks all

You can choose either dvd or VCR, not both. But you can later copy dvd to vcr, or from vcr to dvd. For a refurb, I'd get the extended warranty for $20, as long as its covered by a reputable company (or an authorized repair company) as oppose to sending it back to the seller.
post #275 of 380
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Originally Posted by arty101 View Post

You can choose either dvd or VCR, not both. But you can later copy dvd to vcr, or from vcr to dvd. For a refurb, I'd get the extended warranty for $20, as long as its covered by a reputable company (or an authorized repair company) as oppose to sending it back to the seller.

Ok thanks for that info Arty. I was just wondering about the simultaneous recording just in case of a DVD failure during record or something, at least I would have a backup of my show. As it turns out it is only a 2 year warranty but I think it is still worth it like you say seeing it is refurb. Should be here tomorrow, Wed.
Bob
post #276 of 380
I always thought you could record DVDs & Video Tapes at the same time but seeing it only has one tuner the same channel would have to be recorded?

But if you recorded from one of the inputs hooked up to another Tuner (Cable Box, Sat. Box another VCR) then you could record 2 different programs on a DVD & Video Tape at the same time?

Also I thought you can do "Timer Recordings" with the DVD & VCR Sections as long as you din't schedule the exact same recording times so you would schedule the Timer Recording As:

SAME PROGRAM SAME CHANNEL ON BOTH (Using The Combos Own Built-In Tuner)
DVD CH 2 ON 8:59 OFF 10:00
VCR CH 2 ON 9:00 OFF 10:01

2 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS
DVD CH 2 ON 8:59 OFF 10:00 (Using The Combos Own Built-In Tuner)
VCR CH INPUT ON 9:00 OFF 10:01 (Using The Tuner Hooked To The Input)

Then you would set the input device (Cable Box, Sat Box, VCR) to come ON at 8:55 & OFF at 10:05 & set to the channel you wanted to record or just leave the device ON & set to the correct channel.

I just tried this on my neighbors Samsung VR320 Combo unit & I could not get it to work for "Timer Recordings" but I only tried it up to 5 Min. Apart for the Timer Settings.

But it did work if I set either the DVD or VCR side for a Timer Recording & then manually used the Non-Recording side to select the Input that his Cable Box was hooked to so at least on the Samsung you can record the same program or another program at the same time if you do it manually.

Maybe someone can chime in & let us know how it works on the Panny's.
post #277 of 380
I am a new member. I just purchased the 45V at Costco and been having difficulties setting up the unit. The manual on page 18 says to set the RF channel. Well, my DISH Network box is set a channel 4 and i was only seeing the following channels on the recorder: dv, in1 and in2. So I decided to set all the channels. This resulted in: dv, in1, in2, ch4. I said to myself, great, now i could simply insert the vhs tape and hit play and the video will automaticaclly play. Well, it did not happen. Instead, I had to change the TV channel to CH3 inorder to view the tape. Why is this?

I though there is an option to change the RF in the recorder to CH3, CH4, or OFF. I could only get CH4 and not CH3 or OFF. Please help.
post #278 of 380
See PAGE 23 of your Owners Manual & it will tell you how to Select: Ch 3, Ch 4 or Turn The RF Output "OFF"
post #279 of 380
Just got back from BJ's Wholesale club. They have the es46v model with the hdmi cable for $289.99...But, their was a $40 instant rebate taken at the register.
post #280 of 380
Hello all, new to the forum here. I just bought the 45V from refurb depot for $180 including shipping. They sent the 46 model and I got the HDMI cable in the box. I was nervous buying refurbed, but so far (only 3 days) the unit is working great, and I figure I saved a $100, plus the price of an HDMI cable.
I have already coppied a few old VHS home movies over to DVD. I am recording to +R and -R single layer DVD's. Can I create chapters throughout the disc, or am I stuck with just the one chapter for the whole movie. I have been playing around with some settings and can't seem to get it to create one. From reading in the manual, I am getting the feeling that I won't be able to do this. -Ram I think is the format that is in the manual under creating chapters.
I thought I remember from a Lite on recorder that I had a few years ago, that you could set it to create a chapter every 5 minutes or so. Can you do this with the panosonic? I noticed that one page in the manual says something about it creating a chapter when it notices that the tape has paused or stopped on the original recording itself, but mine is just making one big chapter for each movie that I copy
Other than this one minor problem, I love this machine so far. I hooked it up with HDMI, and love the picture quality of DVD movies with it. I think it looks much better than my XBOX 360, for playing movies. I have a 50" RCA DLP T.V.
post #281 of 380
^^ Couple of notes
-It was pointed out in another thread here this week, that the Panny 46 was the same as the 45-the 46's were made for sale in warehouse stores like Sam's Club to prevent price matching between rival sellers. But the units are supposed to be the same.
-A 'Title' is referred to as the show or program that's recorded to disc, with 'Chapters' the chapter marks that are within that title program. When you finalize the disc-making it playable on other dvd players, the unit will create chapter marks within each title program on the disc every 5 minutes. You can't manually create them using -/+R, only as you've discovered, on RAM.
-And finally, when dubbing from vhs to dvd, the recorder will pause/start recording to create individual 'titles' on the disc, when it comes across index marks on the tape-4 hours long shows on a tape, you'll get four separate titles for them on the dvd. I can't recall exactly as I type, but (I think) the dividing happens when you use the vhs>dvd dubbing button.
If that's how you made your first vhs dubs, then it divides when you use one of the other dubbing procedures. But it can make separate 'titles' for multiple shows on a vhs tape.
post #282 of 380
Does anyone know whether the Panny 45VS/46VS has the following features (I've looked for this info elsewhere but to no avail)...

1. IR Blaster
2. Zoom feature

On a different note, I've been searching high and low to find a DVD recorder that has the following specs (the closest unit I found was a Pioneer Elite that MSRPs for ~$1K)...

1. HDMI OUTPUT;
2. Component INPUT (I know that I can't record in HD but I would still like to have this input);
3. 108MHz/12-bit (or higher) Video D/A Converter (preferably, a 12-bit/216-MHz);
3. Zoom feature;
4. IR Blaster; &
5. I don't need (or what) a VHS player (...however, if I must then so be it).

(I wouldn't mind something that is the same as the OPPO DV-981HD plus recording capabilities)

Thanks in advance for any input regarding my questions.

- Perfection in Spaghettification
post #283 of 380
Many people just get a dedicated DVD Player for such playback-only features, rather than limit their DVD Recorder possibilities by requiring those playback features (Zoom, 12-bit DAC, HDMI output, etc.) in a recorder. Just FYI.
post #284 of 380
PANNY ES45/46V

IR Blaster = NO
Zoom Feature =NO
HDMI = YES
Component Inputs = NO
12 Bit -YES

The only Recorders with Component Inputs that I know of are the Polaroid w/HDD at WAL-MART & some Philips models.

The Polaroid model also passes the signal through wether the unit is "ON" or "OFF."

If you don't need/want a VCR section the Panasonic DMR-ES25 model has the same features as the ES45/46V models just without the VCR scetion & can be had for around $180
post #285 of 380
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Originally Posted by Bill1313 View Post

The Polaroid model also passes the signal through wether the unit is "ON" or "OFF."

To add a detail to that, it will even pass HD when off, but not when on.
post #286 of 380
Greetings to all from a new member ...
Wondered - with so many apparent experts talking in these threads - If anyone has any advise for me ...
Just purchased a Panasonic DMR-ES46VS from PCRush (refurbished) Have tried for almost three weeks - with assorted Panasonic tech support tel. "SO-CALLED"
help - To simply hook the darn unit up to my digital Cablevision box and Olevia TV ...
Got multiple different connection configurations from about eight different "Tech-
support" adventures in frustration - With no successful results - The closest
I've gotten to any kind of normal 'action' was with the last tech specialist who manages to get the unit to play a commercial DVD - and a pristine commercial VHS tape ...
Unfortunately, she wasn't able (like the other seven reps) to get the unit to
RECORD ... Or to play just a VHS tape I'd recorded of a TV show (i.e., "House') Since this set obviously has a problem - And after being bandied back and forth between Panasonic & PCRush as to who would give me a 'replacement' unit - PCRush agreed to replace the product ...
Now! My quandry is this ... Is there anyone in this 'technology universe' who has
experience with the Panasonic DMR-ES46VS product - Is it worth my getting a replacement unit - Since the confugurations seem so complicated - And does anyone know if this unit can record one TV program - while you are watching
another (i.e., record a CBS show - while watching an A&E show)
Really would appreciate any advise - Have a few days to send this back and get a replacement - Or simple get a refund - and purchase a different DVD/VCR combo ...
Thank you for any attention !!!!
post #287 of 380
I'm confused: I just installed this machine and both the User manual and Panasonic customer support say that it will record 16:9 only if you use a DVD-RAM disk. But, as a matter of fact, after recording widescreen HD from my Comcast Motorola DVR both DVD-RAM and DVD -R play back in 16:9 but at a diminished size. My TV is a Samsung 46" DLP and the playback appears to be widescreen but only about 2/3 the size of my screen.

I'm new to all this so I assume I have a lot to learn. I hope this wasn't addressed elsewhere on this thread; I read quite a bit but didn't see it.

Any help understanding all this would be greatly appreciated!
post #288 of 380
I got this unit about a week ago. I have a Directv box, and just hooked into the DVD recorder with the red white and yellow cables from the DTV box. Then I go out of the DVD player to the T.V. using HDMI. Works like a charm. Can use the DVD-Ram disc kind of like a tivo. If I want to set up a timed recording, I have to make sure that I leave my DTV box on the channel that I want to record. Kind of reminds me of the old days of using a vcr and a cable box. You would think that they would figure out a way to make this all work together a lot easier, but that would make life to simple.
I bought this unit mainly because I have 50 or so home movies that I want to get on disc. It works excellent for that. As far as recording from T.V., I really don't have much use for that, as I have Tivo hooked up on another T.V.
post #289 of 380
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Originally Posted by seer1 View Post

Have tried for almost three weeks - with assorted Panasonic tech support tel. "SO-CALLED"
help - To simply hook the darn unit up to my digital Cablevision box and Olevia TV ..

- And does anyone know if this unit can record one TV program - while you are watching
another (i.e., record a CBS show - while watching an A&E show)
Really would appreciate any advise - Have a few days to send this back and get a replacement - Or simple get a refund - and purchase a different DVD/VCR combo ...
Thank you for any attention !!!!.

Connect cable wire from wall to a signal splitter...run 1 wire...
>into the silver RF jack in back of the recorder
>run 2nd wire into back of digital cable box.
>run yellow video (or S-Video), red/white audio cables from digi cable box into the back of recorder...
>run a 2nd set of video (or S-Video), red/white audio cables from recorder to your tv.
>run an additional cable wire (the one included in the box) from the recorder's silver RF 'Out' jack, to your tv's silver RF jack.

This configuration allows you to
-1) watch your digital cable feed on the recorder's line input channel, you will also record this way too.
2) allows you to watch regular analog channels while the unit is recording a digital channel
3) record regular analog channels without needing cable box on

You will not be able to watch one digital channel, while the unit is recording another digital channel.

Also, if your cable box has 2 sets of those yellow video, red/white audio output plugs (Not all cable boxes have 2 sets of those...), you can run the 2nd set from the digi cable box to the tv-if your tv has a 2nd set of those as well. This will allow you to watch a digital cable with the recorder off, instead of having to turn it on the view from the recorder's line input channel.
post #290 of 380
On my es30 It will not output the video signal from vhs on the component cables so I have to use a composite output.

Is it the same way on the 45?

Can I watch vhs, tv and dvd on the HDMI output alone?
post #291 of 380
Not True the ES30V CAN send the VCR Picture out through the Component Video Outputs Jacks & the S-Video Output Jack & in fact it can send a VHS picture out through the Component Outputs in Progressive Scan Mode. See Page 58 of your Owners Manual & all the other pages under "Dubbing" in Very Small Print Look For "DC" & "TP" Input Channels.

The big thing is that you can't have the VCR Side set to INPUT "DC" (For DVD) & then try & set the DVD Side to INPUT "TP" (For VHS Tape). It's one or the other on either side.

SO TRY THIS:

1. Set the VCR Side to any Channel Number (VCR Button + Number Buttons)
2. Set the DVD Side to "TP" (DVD Button + Keep Pushing The Input Button)

You should now be getting the Picture from the VCR & the Channel that you first set the VCR to & the VCR Picture is now being Outputted over the Component & S-Video Jacks.
post #292 of 380
Ok I got it to work but thats retarded.

So in order to watch vhs tape I have to
select the dvd player
press stop on the dvd
change the channel to TP
use the panny remote to change back to vcr mode so I can play stop ff etc and hear the audio.

And then do it all over again each time I watch a video.

Why didn't they just make it go out the component when you just selected vcr mode.
post #293 of 380
You don't have to prees the "STOP" button on the DVD side unless your watching a DVD.

How hard is it to select the "TP" Input on the DVD side anyway? Your just pressing 3 Buttons on the Panny Remote (DVD + INPUT + VCR) if that's too much trouble you can always use a Learning Remote Control with Macros & use that instead.

The reason Panasonic set up the ES30V like that I think is because the way the whole unit acts with copying things & how it receives things back & forth between the VCR & DVD Sections.

Remember the 2004 Panasonic DMR-E75V & the ES30V are the only Panny Combo models that you can hook up a Video Filter to, to copy Store Bought Video Tapes to DVDs & it's all because of the way the inputs are set up using "TP" "DC" & etc.

The newer Panny models don't have those Inputs (TP & DC) & to copy store bought video tapes on the new Combos using a Video Filter you have to use it with a SEPERATE VCR.

You can't connect a Video Filter to any of the newer Panny Combo Units so I'd rather have to push the 3 buttons & have that feature available to me.

THE ES30V GIVES YOU 5 WAYS TO WATCH THE VCR SIDE:
1. Channel 3 or 4 On The TV
2. Composite Video Input On The TV
3. S-Video Input On The TV
4. Component Video Inputs On The TV
5. Progressive Scan (Component Video Inputs On TV)

And 4 Can Be Used All At The Same Time By Just Changing The Inputs Or Channels On Your TV
post #294 of 380
does the es45vs work the same as the 30?
post #295 of 380
"does the es45vs work the same as the 30?" NO!!!!
post #296 of 380
so what do I have to use on the 45 to watch vcr, a composite cable or does it automatically go through the hdmi?

I need to know since I am hooking up a front projector and will be installing sheetrock earlly next week so I need to get it in.
post #297 of 380
What format are the files on the DVD after dubbing?

The #1 reason I want to purchase a DVD recorder is to record from my camcorder via the DV jack. Right now I run my camcorder into my computer, stream it while my computer records. Kind of a PIA vs. how simple this looks.

I need to have the ability to edit the DVD's (copy the data to the hard drive) then burn the "final" back to a DVD.

Am I asking too much for this device (or other DVD recorders) to do?

What is the recording format? MPEG, AVI, DIVX........etc.?
post #298 of 380
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Originally Posted by hacker-pschorr View Post

What format are the files on the DVD after dubbing?

The #1 reason I want to purchase a DVD recorder is to record from my camcorder via the DV jack. Right now I run my camcorder into my computer, stream it while my computer records. Kind of a PIA vs. how simple this looks.

I need to have the ability to edit the DVD's (copy the data to the hard drive) then burn the "final" back to a DVD.

Am I asking too much for this device (or other DVD recorders) to do?

What is the recording format? MPEG, AVI, DIVX........etc.?

For DV check out this link:

http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/xs34/index.html

Read the entire link. DV is towards the end.
post #299 of 380
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill1313 View Post

I always thought you could record DVDs & Video Tapes at the same time but seeing it only has one tuner the same channel would have to be recorded?

But if you recorded from one of the inputs hooked up to another Tuner (Cable Box, Sat. Box another VCR) then you could record 2 different programs on a DVD & Video Tape at the same time?

Also I thought you can do "Timer Recordings" with the DVD & VCR Sections as long as you din't schedule the exact same recording times so you would schedule the Timer Recording As:

SAME PROGRAM SAME CHANNEL ON BOTH (Using The Combos Own Built-In Tuner)
DVD CH 2 ON 8:59 OFF 10:00
VCR CH 2 ON 9:00 OFF 10:01

2 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS
DVD CH 2 ON 8:59 OFF 10:00 (Using The Combos Own Built-In Tuner)
VCR CH INPUT ON 9:00 OFF 10:01 (Using The Tuner Hooked To The Input)

Then you would set the input device (Cable Box, Sat Box, VCR) to come ON at 8:55 & OFF at 10:05 & set to the channel you wanted to record or just leave the device ON & set to the correct channel.

I just tried this on my neighbors Samsung VR320 Combo unit & I could not get it to work for "Timer Recordings" but I only tried it up to 5 Min. Apart for the Timer Settings.

But it did work if I set either the DVD or VCR side for a Timer Recording & then manually used the Non-Recording side to select the Input that his Cable Box was hooked to so at least on the Samsung you can record the same program or another program at the same time if you do it manually.

Maybe someone can chime in & let us know how it works on the Panny's.

I just bought the 46 model from Costco. It has worked great so far with only complaint being the manual but I digress. Being adventurious I did a direct in from my cable line to DVD/VCR unit which allowed me to view all 125 channels and selected a channel to record using the VCR unit. In addition I connected my cable box via s-video and audio outs to the Input 2 on front of unit.

In scheduling I scheduled the VCR for 10am -on and 10:15-off. I scheduled the DVD for 10:05-on and 10:20-off. The system tells me there is an overlap. I said ok and both items show up on the scheduler. The VCR started correctly but the DVD did not start at 10:05 but started at 10:15 and ran to the final time of 10:20. It seems you cannot record two inputs simultaneously using the scheduler but only the time span when there is no overlap.....I will explore the manual aspect of dual recordings next.
post #300 of 380
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Originally Posted by my65ffrcobra View Post

so what do I have to use on the 45 to watch vcr, a composite cable or does it automatically go through the hdmi?

I need to know since I am hooking up a front projector and will be installing sheetrock earlly next week so I need to get it in.

If you have the recorder hooked up to your projector or TV via HDMI, the VCR and DVD will both display as upconverted 16:9.. There has to be an A-D converter chip in the unit in order for it to record VCR to DVD. This is what enables it to sent the VCR analog signal as digital via the HDMI cable.
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