Samsung 1080p Owner's Thread --- HLSxx87W/HLSxx88W DLP Models - Page 442

Yes, I'm using digital audio via a toslink cable. Using the same one that I had with my DVD player. I didn't need any type of adapter. You shouldn't need one unless your receiver requires it. I just bought a standard toslink optical cable from Monoprice(dot)com. It does take a little force to snap it in to the main connector going in to the XBOX 360.

Yes, when using the VGA cable, the 360 upscales standard DVDs to 1080p and does a great job too! With or without the HD-DVD addon. However, I'm leaning towards the HD-DVD add-on doing a slightly better job. Most people will argue that it can't because the scaler is in the unit, not the drive. But for some reason it seems like it's better. Also, the HD-DVD drive runs very quietly compared to the drive in the main unit. So to me it's better for watching movies.

I agree with aaronwt; there was some film grain. I must say though that after watching 24 all these years in SD it was a real treat to watch it in HD. The flesh tones were excellent and the dark scenes were especially good (in SD the dark scenes were usually lacking in detail, but last night the detail was crisp).

I will add that I get FOX on an OTA antenna (with a preamp) so it is compression free. I see a noticeable improvement on FOX over some of the material on my Dish Network satellite.

I am receiving Over The Air HD via a receiver directly plugged into my TV (5087W), I also have my Playstation 3 connected to the TV via a HDMI cable.

I have an older type 5.1 receiver and want to connect both the HD output and the PS3 to get 5.1 on my receiver, problem is I only have one fibre optic port on the receiver.

Is it possible to get the TV to pass the 5.1 signal to the receiver via its fibre optic connection for both the PS3 and the HDTV depending on what is being viewed.

I tried connecting this a while back but appear to only get stereo and not 5.1 from the TV with this configuration.

I currently have the PS3 linked directly to the receiver vi fibre optic cable and so watch my HD channels using the TV's poor speaker.

Any ideas guys?

Thanks
Trel.

I thought so too at first. However, there is a noticable difference in HD content when switching overscan on and off with my 87. Not huge, but it's definately sharper, in a good way, with overscan off.

I'm with you, changing Iris and SB settings made a huge positive correciton. Most noticable over all other changes I've done so far.

Glad you agree! What do your contrast/brightnes settings look like?

I should've specified that I bought the Monster brand one, because after doing some more research, they totally screw you by forcing you into their own standard. The Monster VGA cable was on sale this week at Radioshack for half price, so I thought I'd pick it up. If anyone else was considering it and you have your 360 currently hooked up to a receiver, DON'T unless you are willing to shell out another $20-$30 for Monster's own toslink cable. Apparently, Monster ONLY packs in the adapter you need with their stupid toslink cable, rather than with the VGA cable itself.

I was going to march this crappy vga cable right back to Radioshack, except that it's on clearance and I don't think you can return clearance items. Instead, I ordered the stupid cable I need from Amazon, and will probably try to re-sell the cable by itself on ebay or elsewhere. Really infuriating.

Do yourself a favor, and replace your defective keyboard. It's stuck in Upper Case.

How do you manage to watch HD content with "overscan" OFF if you have an "87" model?

If I'm understanding you correctly, you have had your set calibrated by Eliab or David Abrams, and you are using their work around, or you have found a new work around, or your "87" is different that the reports I've read from other owners.

We need more details.

Noticing the difference seems to be an individual thing. I notice it on my 720p HLP set.

My understanding is that the component inputs also support 1080P input as well, so wouldn't the xbox360 also be upscaling the standard DVD's for componant hookups as well and VGA?

Quick question, hope it hasnt been covered "too" many times.

I've got my 5688w connected to a 5 disc upscaling dvd + audio system connected via optical. This works great, so I set the internal mute to On.

Well, when I am playing my Nintendo Wii, (connected with stock cables) the sound does not carry through to the receiver. I have the component cables for the wii on order.

My question is actually two-fold.

1) Will the wii audio signal be sent thru to the receiver with the component cables?

2) Is there a way to set the different input options to "Save" the internal mute setting? IE: switch to "wii" input internal mute auto offs, when switching back to all others, Internal mute auto ons?

Thanks all.

My roommate got drunk last night and passed out on the couch watching my HL-S5087W. When I woke up today, I went in the living room and saw it sideways on the stand. I panicked wondering wtf happened. I walked up to the TV and saw there was liquid all over the stand and the floor. Long story short my roommate literally pissed on the HL-S5087W and moved it for some reason, then didn't clean it up. You can imagine I'm not in a good mood today. I confronted him very angry this morning, and he said he doesn't remember anything from last night. I'm moving it to my bedroom now. Thankfully it still works fine...

DVDs look much better through my Toshiba progressive scan (non upconverting) DVD player via S-Video, than my 360 through component (also + 1 complaint for noisy 360 disc drive annoying me during movies).

I really want to get the VGA cable and the HD DVD drive now. It seems like our TVs have less issues with 360 VGA than others. I'm getting my set ISF calibrated next month, so I should get the 360 and HD DVD drive before then. If it does look "washed out" or off center, perhaps he can lend a hand I still haven't seen any native 1080p on this TV.

Curlyjive, I am just curious. What TV do you have? I read that XA1 outputs 1080p only via HDMI 1.3. And that most 2006 TVs do not use HDMI 1.3. I have an HD-A2. I thought my 5687 can scale the 1080i input to 1080p. But the HomeTheaterMag article said most sets (including mine) failed at 3:2 film cadence test. I am thinking of getting a PS3. Can TVs receive 1080p output from PS3 or XA1 even if they are still at HDMI 1.2?

Are you kidding??? He's still your roommate? He turns a 50 inch tv on its side, urinates on it........and knows nothing about it??? Difficult to believe.............

I had this happen to me but I have the 360 hooked directly via component. Everything looked great until I started GoW and only when it was set to 1080p. The other games I tried didn't have any problems.

Anyone know anything about this?

I haven't tried this myself, but the consensus is that the 360 will not upscale a standard DVD unless you hook it up through the VGA cable.

This is very confusing. Are you saying that you're connecting your Wii video directly into your TV (and thus, also the sound)? Are you out of room on your receiver? If I were you, I'd connect your Wii (video and sound) into your receiver so that you can get Pro Logic II support.

The Wii component cable won't change the path that you send the sound/video through. It is basically the exact same as the standard cables, except that it has component ends rather than just a single composite video end. If you hook it directly into your TV, it won't be sent to your receiver at all. If you are referring to the optical out on the TV, my understanding is that that will only work completely for OTA TV programming (otherwise it downgrades the sound to stereo). Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, since I haven't tested this myself (just read it from this forum).

I'm not sure about your other question, but is there an advantage to turning the internal mute off as opposed to just turning the volume to 0? If you wanted to use your TV speakers for the Wii, could you just do this, and then turn up the volume whenever you wanted to play the Wii?

Do you still have the receipt for your friend? Maybe you can return him.

Sure the xx87/xx88 will "accept" 1080p over component. But the 360 will only produce 1080p with VGA. It will output 1080p for games and upconvert DVDs with the console drive. The HD-DVD add-on will upconvert to 1080p too.
With component, the HD-DVD will be 1080i and standard DVDs in the console drive will only be 480i. Someone posted a good chart back on page 439 or 429 that shows the capabilities in detail. For pure simplicity and performance, the VGA does best. I've swapped back and forth several times to be sure in my eyes... but VGA is best to me.

I have Oppo DV-981HD and Yamaha RX-V1700, HL-S5688W with DirecTV HD box, all connected through HDMI cables
All of them do 1080p Upconversion.
Which conversion should I use? Is one processor superior to the others?

Just to clarify, the 360 WILL output 1080p over component for games. This is the way I have it currently setup while I wait for my stupid Monster Toslink cable to arrive (see my post a few up). I've tested Gears of War with it and it seems to work fine. A couple times I thought I may have noticed some extra slow down or something, but I think it was in my head. Granted, I haven't tested it extensively yet (that is, I've only played it for about 5-10 minutes at a time since I switched it to 1080p) and I may try later to switch it down to 720p and 1080i to see how it fairs, but as far as I can tell, it looks and runs great. Microsoft did a great job with their scaling engine (especially since they were able to add 1080p support with a simple software upgrade).

Use the Oppo DV-981HD.. It is designed just for upscaling and does a pretty good job converting up to 1080p

It's definitely possible to experiment with overscan on 87s without having had professional calibration, it's just not all that practical.

I've had Logitech tech support add the pronto codes posted earlier in this thread (and elsewhere) to my Harmony 880 so I can get in and out of the SM without powering down. I can turn off overscan, exit the SM and then reset all my user settings. I can also directly see the effects of overscan on computer text by having a document or whatnot open on my screen while in the SM itself (this little test isn't as useful for video because you can't reset user settings while in the SM - well, at least I can't).

Obviously none of this is anything one would want to do for regular viewing but it's a passable way for 87 users to see the effects of overscan for themselves.

April? Isn't that how Samsung spells September?

Ha! Ha! That is the funniest story I have heard thus far on this thread. Thanks for the update.
Mark

I have a hls-6188.

The Xa1 can only output 1080i...not 1080p. I do not believe it has HDMI 1.3 either.

The article you refer to is one i have read, I don't remember the 2006 HLS models being on their. But these sets are supposed to have a pretty good de-interlacer. The pro-calibrators on this site have commented to that effect. So it should be able to re-assmemble the 1080i output from your HD-A2 without affecting the PQ.

These sets also CAN accept 1080p. I hve mine doing so from my ps3.

I called Samsung this morning and you are correct I am covered under the warranty.

They sent my info to a local service center and told me to contact that service center and set an appointment. I called, and the service tech that I spoke to said that they ALWAYS change the LAMP and the ENGINE when they get a call such as mine. Because the TV is only a few months old and that they have been getting numerous calls with the exact same problem and that changing just the lamp is only a short term solution. They want to change the engine and the lamp at the same time to solve the problem. I was told that they did not have lamps or engines in stock and that SAMSUNG can't sent it until next Monday.

Does this sound correct?

PS: Bad news is now I won't be able to watch the Saints / Bears game Sunday in HD on my brand new TV.

I've attempted to change these 3 settings:
Gamma = 0
Disable Iris
SB Gain = 160

I was able to set the Gamma to 0, but I cannot find anything labled IRIS and regardless of which input I have chosen ( Motorola 6412 VIA HDMI and 360 VIA VGA ) SB Gain is greyed out.

Can someone help me out? Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks in advance,
Aaron

Edit:
I apoligize, I should have checked the Tech Links section first, please disregard my questions.

Aaron