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post #241 of 21377
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Originally Posted by jrkarp View Post

I know this is starting to sound like a broken record, but...

Do we know if there is 5.1 pass through via optical out yet???


Bump.
post #242 of 21377
I have a cart with a 45.5- aperature width. This is exactly the 50" widthHL-S55087/88, thus it would be tight but fit nicely. If I went to a 56" how far out would the set stick? Where is the center of gravity--will it fall over without constraints?

BTW the cart is the 18"-deep wire multishelf found at Costco or Sams and is great for all those components. Although the wires look terrible, the ventillation works.

-Ken
post #243 of 21377
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Originally Posted by lipcrkr View Post

On the 56" size, the 88 & 79(LED) series will have the 10 bit processing.


Are you saying that the HLS-5088 DOESN'T have 10bit processing? Only the 56"? I think you are wrong. The 88's have the same processor across the board.[/quote]

No, I was only saying that I know that on the 56" sizes the 88 & 79 series will for certain have have the 10 bit processing since that was what I checked on. I believe that I am Ok on assuming that all the 88 & 79 series will have the 10 bit processing on all the sizes. Hope that answers that!
post #244 of 21377
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Originally Posted by JGB3 View Post

Any updated news re: when Samsung is releasing the xx88 and re: the price difference between the xx87 and xx88?

a member posted that he saw the price diff between 87 and 88 as $300
post #245 of 21377
The price difference on the powerbuy is $500-$600.
post #246 of 21377
Re: the powerbuy, the difference in price varies from size to size of the television.

Re: the 87 and 10 bit, earlier this evening Kirk from TVA confirmed in a separate thread that his "reliable" source at Samsung has confirmed that both the 87s and 88s have 10 bit processing. It is my understanding that the 10 bit processing is across both lines, regardless of the size of the television.

Hope that helps.

I have a quick question (I apologize for the dual post (I posted this in another thread, but it is more appropriately posted here)): Anybody with an 88, have you been able to use your PIP using as sources (i) a computer and (ii) a television channel? That is pretty much the only reason I would use PIP (having a tv feed in the corner of my computer's desktop).

Thanks in advance,
Ed
post #247 of 21377
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Originally Posted by dfwald View Post

These aren't exact numbers. They are just over 17" deep and about 55" wide (should be very close to the present 6168 specs). Looking at the side, there is about a foot on both sides where it angles out to the max depth so the just over 17" depth runs for about two foot less in width than the front bezel width (think five sided trapezoid from the top or bottom). Did that confuse you more?
Figure a stand might be close to 20" depth and 55" width. I don't have either of those models but have been closely following them.

Makes sense - it does sound similar to last year's models. I'm really hoping a 67" is around the corner to replace the 6768.

Thanks much.
post #248 of 21377
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Originally Posted by MegaByte View Post

These are the dimensions listed for the HL-S6187W at TVAuthority site;

Dimensions 55.3"(W) x 38.6"(H) x 17.6"(D)

Maybe I should have just read that first...thanks much!
post #249 of 21377
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Originally Posted by Ed_Newt View Post

I have a quick question (I apologize for the dual post (I posted this in another thread, but it is more appropriately posted here)): Anybody with an 88, have you been able to use your PIP using as sources (i) a computer and (ii) a television channel? That is pretty much the only reason I would use PIP (having a tv feed in the corner of my computer's desktop).

Since the 88's aren't shipping yet, all you'll hear are cricket noises.

I'm 2nd or 3rd on the list for a 5688. Ask me again in a month.
post #250 of 21377
do we know confirmed the main diffrences beetween the 6187 and 6188?

can anyone please please please post the diffrences.

i can get a 6187 now but im wondering if i should just wait till june to get the 6188?

what do you guys think i do not mind if its worth the wait!!

thanks so much!!!
post #251 of 21377
The xx88 adds PIP, a 2nd tuner, CableCard support and FireWire (IEEE 1394) input. Also the silver strip below the screen by the speakers on the xx87 is black on the xx88. Of course, everyone knows that the sound is much brighter with it being bounced off the silver strip!
post #252 of 21377
to the few owners out there that have comcast hd service and the samsung 87 series...i was wondering if there is an improvement in picture quality by using the dvi/hdmi hookup instead of component, i just pre-ordered the 5087(thanks tvauthority) and i am trying to figure out if i should buy a hdmi to dvi cable instead of just using component with the my comcast hd box...thanks in advance
post #253 of 21377
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Originally Posted by bigkev4123 View Post

to the few owners out there that have comcast hd service and the samsung 87 series...i was wondering if there is an improvement in picture quality by using the dvi/hdmi hookup instead of component, i just pre-ordered the 5087(thanks tvauthority) and i am trying to figure out if i should buy a hdmi to dvi cable instead of just using component with the my comcast hd box...thanks in advance

A good HDMI/DVi cable is ~$25. Why would you want to force your input signal through digital to analog and analog back to digital by using component?
post #254 of 21377
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Originally Posted by WAFlowers View Post

Since the 88's aren't shipping yet, all you'll hear are cricket noises.

I'm 2nd or 3rd on the list for a 5688. Ask me again in a month.

Fair point.
post #255 of 21377
the price is not the issue...i was just wondering if i should expect much of an improvement with a digital connection in comparison to a component connection....thanks though htwait...i will now be ordering a dvi/hdmi cable..i can't wait for this tv
post #256 of 21377
I think I might have found a PC program that might be able to test/detect if the 87 series will have a color banding problem. The program is small and in Russian but is pretty simple.

TFT Test

Can someone who has their PC connected with DVI/HDMI run this program and test for to see if you notice the bands? Make sure to select your native resolution and 32bit color/60Hz... then click on the button with the color bands.

I only have an 8-bit LCD panel so I don't know if a 10-bit one would show the bands (but I do see them on mine). Maybe someone more knowledgeable could chime in or suggest another picture/program to use?

Hope this helps,
-Brian
post #257 of 21377
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Originally Posted by brbrice View Post

I think I might have found a PC program that might be able to test/detect if the 87 series will have a color banding problem. The program is small and in Russian but is pretty simple.

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Can someone who has their PC connected with DVI/HDMI run this program and test for to see if you notice the bands? Make sure to select your native resolution and 32bit color/60Hz... then click on the button with the color bands.

I only have an 8-bit LCD panel so I don't know if a 10-bit one would show the bands (but I do see them on mine). Maybe someone more knowledgeable could chime in or suggest another picture/program to use?

Hope this helps,
-Brian

I have a VP171b connected with DVI. The color stripes showed no banding.

PS

Don't click on the icon that looks like a zipper. I had to reboot.
post #258 of 21377
I have not seen detailed dimension schematicsfor the new Samsungs like we have seen in previous years. Does anyone have the specific sub-sizes of the 6187 model? In particular

1. What is the actual screen size H x W?
2. Is he bezil actually .9 as advertized (side and top) ?
3. What is the height from the bottom of the unit to the actual screen?

I need to build a new base for my entertainment center and want to make the screen line up with other components.
post #259 of 21377
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Originally Posted by brbrice View Post

I think I might have found a PC program that might be able to test/detect if the 87 series will have a color banding problem. The program is small and in Russian but is pretty simple.

TFT Test

Can someone who has their PC connected with DVI/HDMI run this program and test for to see if you notice the bands? Make sure to select your native resolution and 32bit color/60Hz... then click on the button with the color bands.

I only have an 8-bit LCD panel so I don't know if a 10-bit one would show the bands (but I do see them on mine). Maybe someone more knowledgeable could chime in or suggest another picture/program to use?

Hope this helps,
-Brian

I can definitely see banding on my 6168 but it doesn't look any different than on my 21" Gateway LCD monitor.
post #260 of 21377
Why is all so quiet here now on this thread? With some people buying the 2006 models right now from stores, you'd think there would be more reports, observations, and testing results.
post #261 of 21377
Just a show of hands, what do you guys think about the new new Samsung DLP's 1080P compared to the Westinghouse 42 in 1080P LCD. I have the the Westinghouse at home and for most part am happy with it. However I was at Best Buy today and saw their new Samsung HL-S6187W DLP 1080P. The picture was very good. I know there is a bulb issue with DLP's . but the guy at Best Buy told me those are covered under warranty. If the pictures are the same I wouldnt mind paying a few dollars for 19 more inches.

However if they are not comparable , I plan to keep the Westinghouse.

What is the opinion of this group on DLPs in general compared LCD's, particulary the Westinghouse 42 inch 1080P.



I appreciate all comments, because I will making my decision about exchanging it in the next few days. Thanks
post #262 of 21377
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Originally Posted by PioneerElite View Post

What is the opinion of this group on DLPs in general compared LCD's, particulary the Westinghouse 42 inch 1080P.

You're are the one with the Westinghouse. What do you think?

Many would go for size. That's especially true if you watch a lot of movies.

I can't say which is best for you, but two areas where the DLP set might be better would be black levels and details in dark scenes. Both of those characteristics are also more important in movies than sitcoms or sports.

If the Westinghouse has the new faster technology you might not see trails behind fast moving objects.
post #263 of 21377
How many of the inputs support 1080P, I know the 2 HDMI units do. Does component support 1080P as well?
post #264 of 21377
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Originally Posted by PioneerElite View Post

How many of the inputs support 1080P, I know the 2 HDMI units do. Does component support 1080P as well?

Probably not, but I'm not sure. It's early days.
post #265 of 21377
Is there any blurriness watching DLPs
post #266 of 21377
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Originally Posted by PioneerElite View Post

Is there any blurriness watching DLPs

I haven't seen any. Our set is a 2004 model. There are LCD and DLP and LCD vs. DLP threads.
post #267 of 21377
Went to BB and looked at the 6187 and really disappointed in the silver strip at the bottom. I have decided to go with the 88 if for no other reason than the appearance--pretty expensive decision, but don't want to look at that silver thing every day.
Gary
post #268 of 21377
How do 1080P DLPs compare to 1080 LCDS and 1080 Plasma.

What made the guys in this group choose 1080P DLPS over the other options.

What advantages over LCD and plasma are there.

I know you cant hang a DLP on the wall, but why else would one choose DLP over the other options?
post #269 of 21377
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Originally Posted by PioneerElite View Post

How do 1080P DLPs compare to 1080 LCDS and 1080 Plasma.

What made the guys in this group choose 1080P DLPS over the other options.

What advantages over LCD and plasma are there.

I know you cant hang a DLP on the wall, but why else would one choose DLP over the other options?

A 1080p plasma in the same size as a DLP is more expensive.
post #270 of 21377
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Originally Posted by Olsonvet View Post

Went to BB and looked at the 6187 and really disappointed in the silver strip at the bottom. I have decided to go with the 88 if for no other reason than the appearance--pretty expensive decision, but don't want to look at that silver thing every day.
Gary

Several hundred dollars extra for the black strip

vs.

roughly five dollars for a brush and the smallest size of black enamel paint.

Seems like an easy call to me.
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