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Originally Posted by Rodn'Reel View Post

Updates to follow. Cheers.

Enjoy.

Your banana trick is still in violation of the forum rules.
post #6452 of 21315
I edited the post to remove my HLS price info. Didn't realize it was a rule violation.
post #6453 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Rodn'Reel View Post

I edited the post to remove my HLS price info. Didn't realize it was a rule violation.

You can read them using the links at the top of this forum's list of threads.

Your banana substitute fooled me.

Let us know how your calibration turns out.
post #6454 of 21315
I just hooked up my Lumagen & had a question:
If i put a Cream/Tan colored dresser next to my 5088, will it affect the colors? Its a rather small room, so theres not too many places for all this stuff.
post #6455 of 21315
I can't seem to find the answer to this (and I'm new to HDMI), but with a tv like this and an HDMI DVD player, when you connect the DVD player to the TV via HDMI, is it still possible to have digital audio work on the dvd player?
post #6456 of 21315
Hello,

I just got the 5687 and noticed the geometry issues right out of the box. I got it from Best Buy and have the 4 year warranty. They said that it will take two weeks for them to
send a tech out. I really do not want to replace the set as I might get the same issue and Best Buy is already not happy with me because of 3 SXRDs I returned for the green glob issue. I am using a different Best Buy store but they are all connected and the returns would still probably hurt me. Anyway, I really like the picture except I do notice the bending of straight vertical lines, slightly on the top 25 percent of the screen and 1/4 inch or more on the bottom 25 percent of the screen. Most noticeable with 4-3 screens and program guides. I have read on here that some people have adjusted this themselves but I think I would rather have the tech do it...I called Samsung and they said that they were aware of the issue but it required replacement parts. From what I have read hear it is an internal board adjustment.
What is the percentage of these TVs that have this issue? It must be fairly high as I read about it here and then the TV I get happens to have the problem. I also can not get my HD-DVD player to put out HDMI to this set. It works on my other TVs but not this one. I have procrastinated on the firmware updates(I sill have the slow DVD load times). I think this might fix the issue if I get a new update.

Thank-you for any info that can be provided
post #6457 of 21315
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Originally Posted by watsonusn View Post

If i put a Cream/Tan colored dresser next to my 5088, will it affect the colors?

LOL! In my alter ego of DIY wannabe calibrationist, I spent almost half an hour trying to determine why when viewing a pattern of 0 to 100 IRE grey bars I suddenly could not get rid of a brownish-yellow coloration in the high IRE bars no matter how much I lowered the contrast. Finally, it dawned on me that the color was being reflected from the side of a speaker that I'd moved from it's normal position to a spot in front of the TV so that I could get to the rear of the set.

So, in essence, the dresser "could" impact apparent colors on the display if the parameters are just right. But, in reality, I doubt you'd notice an impact unless something unusual such as an all white screen were displayed. FWIW.
post #6458 of 21315
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Originally Posted by subwoofer View Post

I can't seem to find the answer to this (and I'm new to HDMI), but with a tv like this and an HDMI DVD player, when you connect the DVD player to the TV via HDMI, is it still possible to have digital audio work on the dvd player?

Your HDMI cable does pass digital audio, along with digital video, directly to your tv. However, your tv is unable to process 5.1 digital surround sound, so it ends up playing 2.0 dolby surround sound. Your best option, assuming you have an A/V receiver (with the accompanying speakers), is to connect your Optical Out on your DVD player to your Optical In on your A/V receiver. Then your DVD player's 5.1 digital surround sound will be heard in all its glory.
post #6459 of 21315
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Originally Posted by bbexperience View Post

I may have missed a post somewhere, but did you try doing component video to the TV and the optical audio to the receiver? If not, try that as a troubleshooting tool. If that works it means that:

1. Your HDMI cable is bad
2. Your STB won't send optical audio with an HDMI connection present because it's designed that way
3. Your STB is mucking up the combination of the HDMI and optical, but should normally work.

Obviously the cable would be the easiest thing to check. If that doesn't work call your content provider to see if the STB should work with that setup.

Well I'm getting closer I now have sound through the receiver when the TV is on but it cuts out about 1 minute after I turn the TV off. I have HDMI running from the STB to the TV, and component running from the audio out on the STB into "CD" on the receiver. Again...everything is fine as long as the TV is on, but approximately one minute after I turn the TV off the sound gets EXTREMELY intermittent...just one to two second blasts every 45 seconds or so.

I though the STB might be set to power off after a certain time but it's not. I called the cable company and they have no idea. They're sending a tech but not for several days.

Does anyone have any ideas why this is happening? Thanks!
post #6460 of 21315
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Originally Posted by tmpfla11 View Post

Well I'm getting closer I now have sound through the receiver when the TV is on but it cuts out about 1 minute after I turn the TV off. I have HDMI running from the STB to the TV, and component running from the audio out on the STB into "CD" on the receiver. Again...everything is fine as long as the TV is on, but approximately one minute after I turn the TV off the sound gets EXTREMELY intermittent...just one to two second blasts every 45 seconds or so.

I though the STB might be set to power off after a certain time but it's not. I called the cable company and they have no idea. They're sending a tech but not for several days.

Does anyone have any ideas why this is happening? Thanks!

When you turn off the TV, the HDMI/HDCP handshake goes invalid. The sound burps are likely in sync to the STB trying to do the HDCP handshake. If you want to play audio with the TV off you will probably have to use component video.
post #6461 of 21315
Thank you...although I didn't know why I was getting the feeling I might have to switch the video feed back to component. In the interim I re-hooked up the optical audio feed and am using it as it seesm to sound a bit better...do you think when I switch the video feed back to component I'll need to switch the audio back to component to listen to the audio with the TV off?

Sorry to keep asking these questions but I'm trying to limit how many times I move the TV in and out.
post #6462 of 21315
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Let us know how your calibration turns out.

Deal. Thanks!
post #6463 of 21315
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Originally Posted by tmpfla11 View Post

Thank you...although I didn't know why I was getting the feeling I might have to switch the video feed back to component. In the interim I re-hooked up the optical audio feed and am using it as it seesm to sound a bit better...do you think when I switch the video feed back to component I'll need to switch the audio back to component to listen to the audio with the TV off?

Sorry to keep asking these questions but I'm trying to limit how many times I move the TV in and out.

I think you mean 'coaxial' instead of 'component' audio. The optical and coaxial audio should be exactly the same. Coaxial is usually considered 'better' since there is no light or optics involved.. just good ole copper.

In order to listen to the STB audio with TV off I believe you will have to use Component Video. Audio to the receiver can be either optical, coaxial or analog.
post #6464 of 21315
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Originally Posted by djoberg View Post

Your HDMI cable does pass digital audio, along with digital video, directly to your tv. However, your tv is unable to process 5.1 digital surround sound, so it ends up playing 2.0 dolby surround sound. Your best option, assuming you have an A/V receiver (with the accompanying speakers), is to connect your Optical Out on your DVD player to your Optical In on your A/V receiver. Then your DVD player's 5.1 digital surround sound will be heard in all its glory.

I do have an AV Receiver so I should be fine as you said. I've just heard that some DVD players turn off the other sound ports when it uses HDMI. I don't mind muting my tv (that is what I am doing now) when I use the HDMI cable.

I can't wait to get my new TV this week! I have the stand all set and I am going to get a nice DVD player sometime tomorrow. I also have some nice HDMI cables coming in this week so I think I am ready to go.

Any tips on what I should do when the TV arrives at my door? I've heard that the moving guys take the tv out of the box and put it where you want and then they take the box back with them. I've heard that it is best to at least turn on the TV with them there. Should I do that and anything else?
post #6465 of 21315
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Originally Posted by subwoofer View Post

I do have an AV Receiver so I should be fine as you said. I've just heard that some DVD players turn off the other sound ports when it uses HDMI. I don't mind muting my tv (that is what I am doing now) when I use the HDMI cable.

I can't wait to get my new TV this week!

Hadnt heard that. My Denon 3910 and Toshiba HD-A1 both have coaxial & optical active with HDMI to TV. Analog out too.... You can configure each one separately.
post #6466 of 21315
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Originally Posted by subwoofer View Post

Any tips on what I should do when the TV arrives at my door? I've heard that the moving guys take the tv out of the box and put it where you want and then they take the box back with them. I've heard that it is best to at least turn on the TV with them there. Should I do that and anything else?

I ordered my set through TVAuthority and the truck driver helped me carry it in, we removed it from the box, and then we did turn in on just to make sure it powered on alright. That's a good idea, I believe. He did NOT take the box though, for if you had to return the set for some reason you need to use the same box for the return.
post #6467 of 21315
I've had my 5688 since July. Does anyone else still smell "heated" plastic when they look behind the television? Samsung is sending a tech out to check mine, saying it shouldn't smell of anything anymore. I'm curious is if this is normal or not. It isn't overpowering, but still smells like when it was new...heated plastic.
post #6468 of 21315
Tried searching but could not find the answer. Where under the service menu do I go to turn off overscan?
post #6469 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Big Worms View Post

Tried searching but could not find the answer. Where under the service menu do I go to turn off overscan?


You will find lots of info here....
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=697413
(Thanks doc!)

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK

2. Once in the service menu, use the arrow down button to scroll to "SDP52" and press enter.

4. Use the arrow up button to scroll to the "Overscan" parameter and use the left arrow button to switch it from "ON" to "OFF."

5. Press menu to return to the main menu and scroll up to "DDP3021" and press enter.

6. Use the "V-Position" and the "H-Position" parameters to center the image.

7. Press menu to get back to the main menu and power off.

(Thanks Eliab)
post #6470 of 21315
^I don't think I have seen the answer here, but besides possibly losing your warrenty, what is the worst that could happen if you mess around with the service menu?
post #6471 of 21315
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Originally Posted by scsiraid View Post

You will find lots of info here....
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=697413
(Thanks doc!)

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK

2. Once in the service menu, use the arrow down button to scroll to "SDP52" and press enter.

4. Use the arrow up button to scroll to the "Overscan" parameter and use the left arrow button to switch it from "ON" to "OFF."

5. Press menu to return to the main menu and scroll up to "DDP3021" and press enter.

6. Use the "V-Position" and the "H-Position" parameters to center the image.

7. Press menu to get back to the main menu and power off.

(Thanks Eliab)

Weird I looked there, thanks though!
post #6472 of 21315
Wow, the plastic smell is normal? I was just going to ask about that. Did they say how long it should last?
post #6473 of 21315
I am having trouble disabling overscan....or rather finding it. I get into the service menu, but cannot find the setting for overscan or the SDP52 menu. Can someone please point me in the right direction?

Thanks!
post #6474 of 21315
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Originally Posted by mikeynavy1 View Post

I've had my 5688 since July. Does anyone else still smell "heated" plastic when they look behind the television? Samsung is sending a tech out to check mine, saying it shouldn't smell of anything anymore. I'm curious is if this is normal or not. It isn't overpowering, but still smells like when it was new...heated plastic.

I do smell a faint trace of heated plastic behind my unit. My 5087 is caddycornered (did I spell that right?) and there is not a crazy amount of space behind it for ventilation I guess.....probably not the best idea but.....

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Originally Posted by curlyjive View Post

I am having trouble disabling overscan....or rather finding it. I get into the service menu, but cannot find the setting for overscan or the SDP52 menu. Can someone please point me in the right direction?

Thanks!

I've been reading posts on how do disable overscan once in the service menu but I can't find the exact way to enter the "secret" service menu......can anyone elaborate please?


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Originally Posted by cincij View Post

I'm also interested in this discussion about the shelving to place a center channel on top of my 5687.

Will adding a piece to distribute the weight from an Omnimount shelf be enough to play it safe, or should I start looking at different options?

I really don't want to mount the speaker to a wall shelf because this tv on the stand we have is already borderline high.

Thanks,

Josh


I originally purchased the Omnimount stand to put on top of the tv but that thing was enormous and extremely ugly.....kinda took away from the beautiful tv so my center channel only weights 1.8 lbs (Sony HTIB) so I took the Omnimount parts and put both "legs" together to attach via double sided tape to the speaker and back of the tv....I also added some double sided tape below the center channel to add a little extra support on the top of the tv as opposed to the back portion. The "legs" are basically to stop the speaker from falling forward....
LL
post #6475 of 21315
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Originally Posted by scsiraid View Post

In order to listen to the STB audio with TV off I believe you will have to use Component Video. Audio to the receiver can be either optical, coaxial or analog.

My Hughes D* STB is connected to the 88 HDMI port with an optical connection to my audio amp. Works fine with the TV off.
post #6476 of 21315
My first visit back to these boards in a month or two. I bought a 6187 in June and have been absolutely in love with it. But when the A2000s came out, I went out and had myself a look.

Every one I've seen has had some problem. The first had muted colors. No "pop" whatsoever. Sure, maybe just a settings issue, but I left unimpressed. The second was sitting next to an XBR1. At first they seemed identical, but then I noticed something that surprised me. The A2000 was blurry. Details like leaves in a forest or strands of a person's hair were just totally lost on the A2000. Crystal clear on the XBR1; utterly blurred on the new Sony.

And so on.

At that point I quietly celebrated the fact that I'd purchased the very best set I could afford at the time, and just went home to enjoy it. Not a hint of buyer's remorse here; I'm totally satisfied.

That's my story. Good luck with yours.

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Originally Posted by mikeynavy1 View Post

Well, I just got a call from Tweeter. When I'd purchased my 5688, I'd also been inquiring about the Sony A2000 or Samsung HL-S5679. After reading the reviews, the 5679 was out, and I was glad I didn't wait for it. The salesman called me today saying they had a 60" A2000 in the showroom, and they were having a sale if I was still interested in exchanging. This would be for $150 more than I paid for my 5688. I could get the 55" A2000 for the same price. I like the 5688, and I know the showroom doesn't really do much justice, but the A2000 I just saw looked really good. The cabinet may not be as attractive as the 5688, but it feels more durable. From everything I've read the two TVs are comparable. Here are the pros and cons I'm weighing. Oh...and I'd have to go for the 55" because of living room space.

Pros of Trading:

- Supposedly Sony has got rid of the green blob issue from XBR1
- SXRD would eliminate any possibly of me seeing any rainbow effect (I don't see it now but I intend to get eye surgery in a year, and I don't know if that would induce it or not).
- Sony build quality seems to be a bit better. I haven't read of smudge issues or anything else. I'm in the military and will inevitably move, and if the Samsung can't take a move...then I'm in trouble.
- I saw 4:3 material on the Sony and there was 0 pincushioning.
-Overscan is reduced (although I have overscan turned off on my 5688)

Cons
- SONY has less features than the Samsung (PIP, CableCARD, DRC v1...XBR1 had 2 and XBR2 will have 2.5)
- Risk that green blob will come later (I heard that not all of the XBR1s had it right out of the box)
- SONY has a larger footprint

Any suggestions? I figured I'd shoot it out here so that the more experienced folks can chime in.
post #6477 of 21315
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Enjoy.

Your banana trick is still in violation of the forum rules.

no no. i think he is fine.. bananas are sold by the pound... so yeah you are clear HA HA
post #6478 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Joel Graffman View Post

My Hughes D* STB is connected to the 88 HDMI port with an optical connection to my audio amp. Works fine with the TV off.

Perhaps the D* boxes dont have the same HDMI/HDCP issues that the Scientific Atlanta cable STB's do.
post #6479 of 21315
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but still smells like when it was new

Man, that's the best part about a new piece of equiopment.
post #6480 of 21315
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Originally Posted by mikeynavy1 View Post

- SXRD would eliminate any possibly of me seeing any rainbow effect (I don't see it now but I intend to get eye surgery in a year, and I don't know if that would induce it or not).

I've had lasik and it hasn't affected me.
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