Samsung 1080p Owner's Thread --- HLSxx87W/HLSxx88W DLP Models - Page 261

Originally Posted by bbchurch

Okay after much debate I finally bit the bullet and got the 56 in samsung 1080 got it home last night loved it until my wife came in the room and said why does the picture look pushed in? I said what are you talking about and she said look from over here it looks dented in the middle. Sure enough when you stand off to the side about 2 foot to the side of the tv and about 5 foot back the picture has a distinct curve to it. I felt of the outer screen and it felt flat so it must be the inner screen or something else inside? Now my wife said she could also see it when looking at it straight. I could not tell for sure if she is nuts or if there really is a problem. Is this a condition any of you seen before or are we just expecting way to much of a "flat" tv. Billy

Originally Posted by pwp

Somebody posted a side-view picture (from the manufacturer) and it's clear that the screen has an inward bow to it.

Originally Posted by Tarheel72

This has been discussed several times in this thread and a search should reveal the postings. The optical output will deliver 5.1 DD for OTA signals received via the ANTENNA input. I can personally verify that fact. It will not output a 5.1 signal for other sources that might be connected via HDMI (with or without the RCA L/R inputs for DVI conversions), component, or VGA.

Originally Posted by Tarheel72

no problem.

Yeah, several people have posted that the coax connection seems to get "hot". One man's hot is another man's warm. I have a OTA antenna, as I mentioned, but no direct cable connection. I have never noticed the antenna coax getting warm, but then again I am not back there all that much. But when I am, I have never even noticed that it was warm. Given that many have noticed it, I would not necessarily get too concerned, unless it is down right steaming. Then I might have an issue with it and consider trading it or getting the imput changed out if it was past the exchange period or if you don't have that as an option.

Originally Posted by Tarheel72

I saw that screenshot, but I am not 100% convinced that the screen was bowed, nor if it was if that is normal. First off, that looked a lot like a shadow effect of the the bezel. Even if not, I do not think that the screen of the HLS5687w is by design bowed in or out, even a little bit. My set displays no bowing at all, from any angle, and my image is straight and true viewed from side to side and from top to bottom. I do not think that is inherent in this design or in any DLP. If you have this problem I would definitely take it back and exchange it. If nothing else, go to the store and view several DLP sets there at an angle and see if they all exhibit this problem.

Originally Posted by Tarheel72

I saw that screenshot, but I am not 100% convinced that the screen was bowed, nor if it was if that is normal. First off, that looked a lot like a shadow effect of the the bezel. Even if not, I do not think that the screen of the HLS5687w is by design bowed in or out, even a little bit. My set displays no bowing at all, from any angle, and my image is straight and true viewed from side to side and from top to bottom. I do not think that is inherent in this design or in any DLP. If you have this problem I would definitely take it back and exchange it. If nothing else, go to the store and view several DLP sets there at an angle and see if they all exhibit this problem.

Originally Posted by NFLFAN05

Hmmm....my coax in's feel pretty hot. I don't want to have to go through another swap.....OY!!!

Originally Posted by gsrblack

What was your mfg date on your TV? Also, which model do you have, 5088 or 5688? I went through 2 5088's (from the same batch that were produced) back in June/July.

Why did I return them? Well, it was not because it was hot when the TV was on, but that it remained hot even after that TV has been off overnight!

I was thinking that it was a 5088 problem and I am about to pull the trigger on a 5688.

Originally Posted by gsrblack

NFLFAN, is yours hot even after it's been off?

mikeynavy, would you say it's just warm when it's been off or is it hot? Also, what TV do you have?

Originally Posted by NFLFAN05

Sorry,

I did do a search, but all I could find was about HDMI passthrough.


Anyone else notice that their coax inputs feel kind hot? I just noticed this today, so I have no idea if it is normal or not.

Originally Posted by djoberg

I have noticed this too on SOME wider aspect DVDs, but not on all. It hasn't bothered me though, as long as they maintain the same width all the way across. Some members have written in saying the black bar is wider on one side (in other words, the picture is tilted...bad geometry). I would NOT want to put up with that problem.

Originally Posted by mikeynavy1

Ok...I just looked in my SM and for some reason my overscan option is greyed out...still at off...but now i can't turn it on. I want to make some picture comparisons. How do I get it changed again?

Originally Posted by Mikejl

Hi All

My HL-S5087 arrived today. I've been luking in this thread since I ordered it from the "Bookstore".

My first impression right out of the box was disappointment. I immediately configured it with Eliab's settings and it took on a much cleaner look, especially in HD.

I found the picture quality better on component than with HDMI coming from my Cox 6412 DVR. SD looks acceptable on most channels.

Some questions I have are:

The image is tilted approx. 1/2 in. Is this something Samsung will send a tech out to fix?

When I switch from component to HDMI it says "weak or no signal" and then a few seconds later the picture appears. Anyone else see this?

I went into the Service Menu to check and adjust the centering and didn't find the setting. Would someone PM me the directions or post a link?

Thanks,
Mike

Originally Posted by Mikejl

When I switch from component to HDMI it says "weak or no signal" and then a few seconds later the picture appears. Anyone else see this?
Thanks,
Mike

Originally Posted by Rijax

First, I said nothing about the HL-S TVs. Since I was referring to sets that only last 3 to 5 years, I would have to be talking about sets that are 3 to 5 years old wouldn't I? The HL-S series is only months old. Their track record is unknown at this point. However, since I own an HL-S5687, I'm genuinely hoping their track record will be better than sets that are 3 to 5 year old.

Also, I don't believe I ever said these sets would be "useless." I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't put words in my mouth. I said they won't last, i.e., they won't last more than 3 to 5 years without failing. If you wish to have them repaired, you can go on using them indefinitely.

Well, I sincerely hope you have an extended warranty for your set. The information which prompted that statement comes from personal experience, the experience of a number of my friends, and many posts on this forum.

I bought my first HDTV in 2003 (43", 720p, HLN Sammy, no extended warranty). Earlier this year (May?), with the set out of warranty, the picture would just disappear. I called Samsung and had a tech come out and look at it. The diagnosis was a repair that would cost more than the set is worth. In fact you could buy a brand new 42", 720p Sammy for about the same price as the cost of the repair. Time for a new set.

Are there those whose 3 year old set is working fine? Absolutely! But, based on numerous other posts here on the forum, I'm hardly the only one who has had this experience. In fact, I have a friend who had an LCD die on him with the same results ($3600 HDTV - $2500 repair. He bought a new set). And, he has a neighbor who had a different brand of LCD fail on him (he bought a new set). I would submit that these new technologies fail infinitely more often than the good old CRTs.

So, basis #1 for my statement: Cost of common repairs more expensive than the value of the set.

Lets go back to those with 3 year old sets that are working just fine, or those who were prescient enough to purchase an extended warranty. Do they have HDMI inputs? Are they 1080p? The technology is changing so fast that, though still functioning and usable, these sets can reasonably be considered obsolete within a 3 to 5 year period. Obsolete does not mean unusable. It just means outdated. I know of a number of posters here on the forum who have replaced their sets several times simply because of new technology.

Basis #2 for my statement: Rapidly developing technology renders the older sets obsolete.

Lastly, if you're going to accept the "$300" to "$3000" as a generality regarding price, why take the 3 to 5 year range so literal. It was meant simply as another generality? Sheesh! My point is, these new technologies are in their infancy and are experiencing growing pains. Do these new HDTV sets cost significantly more than the old CRTs? It's undeniable! Do these new HDTVs last as long as the old CRTs. So far, I feel their track record, in enough instances to be considered significant, has demonstrated that is not the case. Will this improve? I certainly hope and expect it to. But, keeping in mind that they haven't been around long enough to tell, their failure rate, to date, makes the assertion that they won't last 10 to 15 years, as my as my old CRTs did, not exactly unreasonable.

The optical output will deliver 5.1 DD for OTA signals received via the ANTENNA input. I can personally verify that fact. It will not output a 5.1 signal for other sources that might be connected via HDMI (with or without the RCA L/R inputs for DVI conversions), component, or VGA.

Originally Posted by videobruce

Then what good is it?

Regarding the "hot" RF connections:
Yes, they get hot. Not warm, which is something above room tempurture, but hot. Not enough to burn you of course, but for a RF connector on any device I have never felat anything get that tempurture before.

No, it's not the 'lamp', it's the circuitry on that on that board with the tuners. As you can see those two RF connectors go to a switch for the analog and digital tuners. Not sure which is which tough.

Hope you didn't take your set apart just for me

Originally Posted by videobruce

Yea, but when I got it back together I had parts left over.
The images were cropped from both SM's.

TV Guide question.
I have both OTA and cable, I set the Guide for cable, but it keeps on reverting back to OTA. I have DVR with the same setup and there isn't a problem. Any ideas?

Originally Posted by Eliab

A properly performed calibration will lessen the light output of your display which does in fact contribute to RBE perception. It'll do this by adjusting the gamma, brightness, contrast, and minimizing the iris. However, I don't think that you should risk spending the money on a calibration in hopes of not being bothered by the RBE anymore as that won't likely be the case (although it may be reduced).

Eliab

Originally Posted by videobruce

TV Guide question.
I have both OTA and cable, I set the Guide for cable, but it keeps on reverting back to OTA. I have DVR with the same setup and there isn't a problem. Any ideas?

Originally Posted by Mikejl

.............When I switch from component to HDMI it says "weak or no signal" and then a few seconds later the picture appears. Anyone else see this?.............

My 5688 does the same thing.......