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post #8821 of 21377
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Originally Posted by twinkdogg View Post

FYI, I have the HL-S5688 and I don't hear a thing when I turn my set on and off. I mean if I stick my head behind the TV while turning it on I can here some very faint noises but that's it. It's complently silent turning on and off from any distance in front of the set.

Not a thing, huh? It's not horribly loud, but there is a definite noise when my set first powers up. Note that I have an older model. They could have made this generation quieter on startup.

Well, if the OP is concerned he should give Samsung a call and see what they say. I think it's normal, but maybe an official word will ease his mind.

- Collin
post #8822 of 21377
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Originally Posted by twinkdogg View Post

I hooked and older laptop from my work up to my 5688 just to see what it would look like once I built my htpc. Well, once i had it hooked up the picture looked horrible. It was like everything had a red tint to it. I was at 1024x768@60Hz which should have been fine for my set. Anyone had this problem or know what could be causing it?

This issue I was having was solved with a new cable. Thank goodness! I was geting worried there for a minute. Thanks to all.


On another note, I have been notcing some pincushion issues when viewing content at 4:3 on the bottom left and right corners. Both bottom left-right edges are bending outward. It's even more evident with the computer plugged in. Is this something that can be fixed with calibration?
post #8823 of 21377
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Originally Posted by collinp View Post

Not a thing, huh? It's not horribly loud, but there is a definite noise when my set first powers up. Note that I have an older model. They could have made this generation quieter on startup.

Well, if the OP is concerned he should give Samsung a call and see what they say. I think it's normal, but maybe an official word will ease his mind.

- Collin

Yep, not a thing. From reading yours and and JerryT's posts I decided to try and explicitly listen for something similar to what you all were describing but nothing.
post #8824 of 21377
Hey all, after researching for the past couple of months I purchased a 5087 from Amazon. The only thing I was concerned about is that turning off overscan doesn't "stick" but other than that I like what I've seen from this set. One question I have that I'm not 100% sure about is the DNIe. I saw these settings as a baseline from Eliab

Digital NR - OFF
DNIe - Off
Mode - Movie
Contrast - 40
Brightness - 45
Sharpness - 0
Color - 45
Tint - G50/R50
Color Tone - Warm2


So does movie mode automatically shut off DNIe or do I have to enter the SM for this? Thanks all.
post #8825 of 21377
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Originally Posted by newsguy View Post

So does movie mode automatically shut off DNIe or do I have to enter the SM for this? Thanks all.

Yes, Movie mode automatically turns off DNIe and grays out the DNIe menu option.
post #8826 of 21377
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Originally Posted by Quisp View Post

I wonder if it would be OK to tilt the HL-Sxx87/88 forward by placing some pads or wedges under the rear rubber "feet" to adjust the viewing angle for a shelf/stand that is too high?

I actually just did this the other day because my custom entertainment center stand is too high for my 6767. All I did was put a strip of cardboard underneath the back of the stand...it tilts very slightly, not really noticeable, but it makes a difference. Eliab and David didn't think I needed to do it from my seating distance (15' - 18') but I tried it and I'm satisfied.

Here's a pic of my setup - you can't see the tilt from this shot, but it will give you an idea of how high my stand is.
LL
post #8827 of 21377
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Originally Posted by JimH-Seattle View Post

Hello Everyone,

I have been lurking here for a couple of months, since I started shopping for a new set to replace my Panasonic PT50-54DL DLP set. I was looking to upgrade to 1080p and a slight upgrade in size as well.

After reading hundreds (maybe thousands) of posts here and other places, I finally decided the HL-S5687W was the right mix of price, features and quality for me.

I received my new set today and have been watching it for a couple of hours. The set is esthetically absolutely beautiful. I love the look of this design.

As soon as I got it hooked up, the brightness practically knocked me over, which I pretty much expected after reading these forums. I applied Eliab's recommended settings as a starting point and am much happier with the picture, although it still seems a bit harsh compared to my panasonic. I intend to tweak on the settings some more to see if I can make it more comfortable for me.

There is one issue I'm trying to figure out, and I'm hoping someone might be able to coach me through correcting it.

I'm watching HD Cable TV over Comcast via a motorola 3412 STB using DVI-HDMI. I've had local news broadcasts in HD, and right now I'm watching the NLCS on Fox-HD. Other than being a little bright the picture looks great except for one thing.

Any bright white text on the screen, such as the "KOMO4" logo during the news cast, or the "NLCS-FOX" logo on the game you can see noticable colored blotches It almost looks like the dithering (pixelation?) you would see if someone over optimized a .jpg image on a computer.

I'm sure this is a color balance/contrast/brightness issue, but when I try to turn the brightness down any further than Eliab's recommendations, I start losing detail in the dark areas of the screen.

I do have the service manual, and have been into the service menu, but the only thing I changed was turning off the Overscan. I didn't bother turning off DNiE because I'm using movie mode, which appears to disable it.

Can anyone provide some suggestions that might help correct this issue?

I definitely can see that this set could benefit from professional calibration. The picture is good, but could definitely use some professional TLC. I'm in the Seattle area and am going to seek out a calibrator. I did look in the Calibration forums and didn't see anyone in this area performing this service. I did see that David Abrams might be making a trip up this way in December, but I'm not sure I can wait that long. Anyone have any recommendations?

I would also like to pass a huge thank you along to everyone who contributes to these forums. This is probably the single best source of knowledge in the AV/HT/HD universe!

/bow

Cable boxes dont have very good mpeg decoders so they arent the best PQ. Suggest you try OTA if you can and see if it is any different. OTA or Cablecard has quite a bit better PQ than a cable box.

Pro Calibration makes all the difference in the world. Mine was calibrated last week and all I can say is WOW.... what a difference.
post #8828 of 21377
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Originally Posted by emiburke View Post

I also have the same issue on a new HL-S5087, also from Amazon (same high-pitched ringing sound when turned off). Anybody have a resolution yet?

Replacing the power supply resolved the issue for me.
post #8829 of 21377
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Originally Posted by emiburke View Post

I also have the same issue on a new HL-S5087, also from Amazon (same high-pitched ringing sound when turned off). Anybody have a resolution yet?

Yes, I've noticed the same thing. Has a very high pitched ringing sound when the unit is off. Let me know how the repair goes and it that was the problem. My unit also come from Amazon.
post #8830 of 21377
Does anyone have any experiences with the Samsung HL-S6188W? I'm planning on getting one soon and I'm curious what differences are between the 87 and 88. I saw the 87 at Best Buy yesterday and it was gorgeous.
post #8831 of 21377
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Does anyone have any experiences with the Samsung HL-S6188W? I'm planning on getting one soon and I'm curious what differences are between the 87 and 88. I saw the 87 at Best Buy yesterday and it was gorgeous.

Hi Sbrooks!

This exact topic has been covered quite literally dozens of times on this thread. Do a search on the word "difference" in the thread and your results will likely all be about 87s vs 88s.

Long story short, if you can afford the difference and want PiP and cablecard and the ability to turn off overscan (search for it ... ), then get the 88. Otherwise, the 87 is fine.
post #8832 of 21377
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Originally Posted by twinkdogg View Post

On another note, I have been notcing some pincushion issues when viewing content at 4:3 on the bottom left and right corners. Both bottom left-right edges are bending outward. It's even more evident with the computer plugged in. Is this something that can be fixed with calibration?

Nope - you're stuck with it. Up to 1/4 inch is considered within spec.
post #8833 of 21377
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my screen ended up with a few small spots so after he almost had me convinced to leave it the way it is, saying that ordering a new screen will do more harm than good

Just out of curiosity ... what were his reasons for it causing more harm than good? I'm asking because tomorrow I have a tech coming out to look at two light smudges on the bottom of my screen (neither are directly in the line of sight, only visible during certain white-ish scenes), and I'm debating the pros/cons of screen replacement.

Thanks!
post #8834 of 21377
I just had my 6188 delivered yesterday afternoon. It arrived in perfect shape and looks great. I'm still getting it dialed in but what I noticed most is that this thing is bright. Very bright. I'm coming from a 5+ year old CRT RP and the difference is amazing. I've already been in the service menu to turn off overscan and center the picture. Is there any way to dial down the overall brightness in the SM? I guess I'm looking for something like a gamma control. During the day its not bad but at night, even with some backlighting, the brightness can be overwhelming.
post #8835 of 21377
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Originally Posted by niteshade009 View Post

I just had my 6188 delivered yesterday afternoon. It arrived in perfect shape and looks great. I'm still getting it dialed in but what I noticed most is that this thing is bright. Very bright. I'm coming from a 5+ year old CRT RP and the difference is amazing. I've already been in the service menu to turn off overscan and center the picture. Is there any way to dial down the overall brightness in the SM? I guess I'm looking for something like a gamma control. During the day its not bad but at night, even with some backlighting, the brightness can be overwhelming.

Turn off Dynamic Black and close the iris (aperature)
post #8836 of 21377
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Originally Posted by niteshade009 View Post

I just had my 6188 delivered yesterday afternoon. It arrived in perfect shape and looks great. I'm still getting it dialed in but what I noticed most is that this thing is bright. Very bright. I'm coming from a 5+ year old CRT RP and the difference is amazing. I've already been in the service menu to turn off overscan and center the picture. Is there any way to dial down the overall brightness in the SM? I guess I'm looking for something like a gamma control. During the day its not bad but at night, even with some backlighting, the brightness can be overwhelming.

Before you mess around with the service menu, you can try adjusting the contrast and brightness in the user menu to something in the range of 40-50.
post #8837 of 21377
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Originally Posted by ronparr View Post

Before you mess around with the service menu, you can try adjusting the contrast and brightness in the user menu to something in the range of 40-50.

I already have both set lower than that.
post #8838 of 21377
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Originally Posted by niteshade009 View Post

I already have both set lower than that.

I know what you mean, and turning off dynamic black and closing the iris did the trick for me. No more eyestrain!
post #8839 of 21377
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turning off dynamic black

How does one accomplish this?
post #8840 of 21377
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Originally Posted by JerryT View Post

Same thing here. Third set with the same thing, so I am begining to think it is normal for these sets. I believe it is the color wheel you are hearing.

Other than that, I agree, great HD picture.

JerryT. Thank you for your reply.
Please read StallionRe's reply and my post on 10-16-06 10:32AM. Sorry I don't know how to create short cut.
A samsung tech will come out tomorrow and replace the color wheel.

Does any know they just change the color wheel only or replace entire light engine (board or whatever the name is) ? I guess I'll figure it out tomorrow but just curious.
post #8841 of 21377
on the HL-S5688W, I have entered the SM and cannot change the Overscan option from 'On' to 'Off', as it is greyed out. I have tried connecting to different inputs, then starting up, but no avail. Does anyone know why this option, and several others, are greyed out... And how to access them?
post #8842 of 21377
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Originally Posted by fookes View Post

on the HL-S5688W, I have entered the SM and cannot change the Overscan option from 'On' to 'Off', as it is greyed out. I have tried connecting to different inputs, then starting up, but no avail. Does anyone know why this option, and several others, are greyed out... And how to access them?

Make sure you are selecting a 1080i input source when you enter the SM else the option will be greyed out.
post #8843 of 21377
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Originally Posted by rnick1976 View Post

How does one accomplish this?

Remember the PM I sent you in August on closing the iris.... Thats what DB stands for. If you closed the iris then you also turned Dynamic Black off.
post #8844 of 21377
My 6187 shipped out from Amazon yesterday. Here's the funny part: Eagle USA delivery service has the unit being flown from Harrisburg Int'l Airport to BWI (Baltimore Washington Int'l), then driven to me. I'm almost exactly equidistant from both airports! So to get the TV 1 hour and 10 mins by car, they are going to take a full week shipping it around.

On another note: I was waffling about buying the TV in the first place, ever since seeing such poor quality video at the CC I first saw it at. Later, I checked the TV out at Best Buy and it looked great! I went ahead with the purchase. Then yesterday I went over to Tweeter to check out an HD DVD player, and they had the TV hooked up to an HD cable soccer game. It looked horrible!! There was blocking (looked like terrible compression effects - only way I can describe it), terrible lack of detail, etc. It looked worse than regular cable on my current TV. I currently own a 47" Panasonic CRT 1080i HD-RPTV and when I play OTA HD sports on it they look PHENOMENAL. I was shocked to see this display on the 6188 at the Tweeter. It might have been a demo source, since it was in 4:3 format with big bars on the side that said "HD" in fancy script. I know that the size increase from my 47"will result in a poorer looking picture, but I even looked at the 50" and 56" models to minimize the difference; similar results.

Now I'm really worried that I'm going to be getting a TV that looks much worse than the one I have - and pay good money for it. Bottom line is that I have to know for sure by the time the delivery is made, since the customer service at amazon told me I can always refuse delivery if I don't want it, but no returns are possible.

I wish I could see the TV outside of a lousy big box demo setting. This may sound unusual, but if there's anyone in the Baltimore (Bel Air) area that wouldn't mind demoing a real unit set up with a DVD player/cable/whatever, I'd be very appreciative. I'm only looking to spend a few minutes checking out the TV in a setting similar to how it would really look in my home.
post #8845 of 21377
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Originally Posted by Chris Campbell View Post

My 6187 shipped out from Amazon yesterday. Here's the funny part: Eagle USA delivery service has the unit being flown from Harrisburg Int'l Airport to BWI (Baltimore Washington Int'l), then driven to me. I'm almost exactly equidistant from both airports! So to get the TV 1 hour and 10 mins by car, they are going to take a full week shipping it around.

On another note: I was waffling about buying the TV in the first place, ever since seeing such poor quality video at the CC I first saw it at. Later, I checked the TV out at Best Buy and it looked great! I went ahead with the purchase. Then yesterday I went over to Tweeter to check out an HD DVD player, and they had the TV hooked up to an HD cable soccer game. It looked horrible!! There was blocking (looked like terrible compression effects - only way I can describe it), terrible lack of detail, etc. It looked worse than regular cable on my current TV. I currently own a 47" Panasonic CRT 1080i HD-RPTV and when I play OTA HD sports on it they look PHENOMENAL. I was shocked to see this display on the 6188 at the Tweeter. It might have been a demo source, since it was in 4:3 format with big bars on the side that said "HD" in fancy script. I know that the size increase from my 47"will result in a poorer looking picture, but I even looked at the 50" and 56" models to minimize the difference; similar results.

Now I'm really worried that I'm going to be getting a TV that looks much worse than the one I have - and pay good money for it. Bottom line is that I have to know for sure by the time the delivery is made, since the customer service at amazon told me I can always refuse delivery if I don't want it, but no returns are possible.

I wish I could see the TV outside of a lousy big box demo setting. This may sound unusual, but if there's anyone in the Baltimore (Bel Air) area that wouldn't mind demoing a real unit set up with a DVD player/cable/whatever, I'd be very appreciative. I'm only looking to spend a few minutes checking out the TV in a setting similar to how it would really look in my home.


Wanna drive to Raleigh?
post #8846 of 21377
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Originally Posted by Chris Campbell View Post

My 6187 shipped out from Amazon yesterday. Here's the funny part: Eagle USA delivery service has the unit being flown from Harrisburg Int'l Airport to BWI (Baltimore Washington Int'l), then driven to me. I'm almost exactly equidistant from both airports! So to get the TV 1 hour and 10 mins by car, they are going to take a full week shipping it around.

On another note: I was waffling about buying the TV in the first place, ever since seeing such poor quality video at the CC I first saw it at. Later, I checked the TV out at Best Buy and it looked great! I went ahead with the purchase. Then yesterday I went over to Tweeter to check out an HD DVD player, and they had the TV hooked up to an HD cable soccer game. It looked horrible!! There was blocking (looked like terrible compression effects - only way I can describe it), terrible lack of detail, etc. It looked worse than regular cable on my current TV. I currently own a 47" Panasonic CRT 1080i HD-RPTV and when I play OTA HD sports on it they look PHENOMENAL. I was shocked to see this display on the 6188 at the Tweeter. It might have been a demo source, since it was in 4:3 format with big bars on the side that said "HD" in fancy script. I know that the size increase from my 47"will result in a poorer looking picture, but I even looked at the 50" and 56" models to minimize the difference; similar results.

Now I'm really worried that I'm going to be getting a TV that looks much worse than the one I have - and pay good money for it. Bottom line is that I have to know for sure by the time the delivery is made, since the customer service at amazon told me I can always refuse delivery if I don't want it, but no returns are possible.

I wish I could see the TV outside of a lousy big box demo setting. This may sound unusual, but if there's anyone in the Baltimore (Bel Air) area that wouldn't mind demoing a real unit set up with a DVD player/cable/whatever, I'd be very appreciative. I'm only looking to spend a few minutes checking out the TV in a setting similar to how it would really look in my home.

I can assure you it was the source. The Tweeter I bought from had poor source material too. OTA looks fantastic on my 6188. Don't worry about what you saw at the store.
post #8847 of 21377
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Originally Posted by Chris Campbell View Post

On another note: I was waffling about buying the TV in the first place, ever since seeing such poor quality video at the CC I first saw it at. Later, I checked the TV out at Best Buy and it looked great! I went ahead with the purchase. Then yesterday I went over to Tweeter to check out an HD DVD player, and they had the TV hooked up to an HD cable soccer game. It looked horrible!! There was blocking (looked like terrible compression effects - only way I can describe it), terrible lack of detail, etc. It looked worse than regular cable on my current TV. I currently own a 47" Panasonic CRT 1080i HD-RPTV and when I play OTA HD sports on it they look PHENOMENAL. I was shocked to see this display on the 6188 at the Tweeter. It might have been a demo source, since it was in 4:3 format with big bars on the side that said "HD" in fancy script. I know that the size increase from my 47"will result in a poorer looking picture, but I even looked at the 50" and 56" models to minimize the difference; similar results.

Now I'm really worried that I'm going to be getting a TV that looks much worse than the one I have - and pay good money for it. Bottom line is that I have to know for sure by the time the delivery is made, since the customer service at amazon told me I can always refuse delivery if I don't want it, but no returns are possible.

I wish I could see the TV outside of a lousy big box demo setting. This may sound unusual, but if there's anyone in the Baltimore (Bel Air) area that wouldn't mind demoing a real unit set up with a DVD player/cable/whatever, I'd be very appreciative. I'm only looking to spend a few minutes checking out the TV in a setting similar to how it would really look in my home.

I can totally understand where you coming from. I was in the same position with a Toshiba RP CRT. It looked great but I wanted something newer, more compact and some HDMI inputs. I bought my 6188 based mostly on this forum and seeing a good picture on it in ONE store. It always seemed to look the worst of all the models whenever I looked at it in stores. After getting my own yesterday and setting it up for my sources it looks phenomenal. I could not believe the increased sharpness and punch over my old set. It also has much less overscan. I watched The Corpse Bride on HD DVD and was blown away. I think you'll be happy with your purchase.
post #8848 of 21377
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Originally Posted by Chris Campbell View Post

My 6187 shipped out from Amazon yesterday. Here's the funny part: Eagle USA delivery service has the unit being flown from Harrisburg Int'l Airport to BWI (Baltimore Washington Int'l), then driven to me. I'm almost exactly equidistant from both airports! So to get the TV 1 hour and 10 mins by car, they are going to take a full week shipping it around.

On another note: I was waffling about buying the TV in the first place, ever since seeing such poor quality video at the CC I first saw it at. Later, I checked the TV out at Best Buy and it looked great! I went ahead with the purchase. Then yesterday I went over to Tweeter to check out an HD DVD player, and they had the TV hooked up to an HD cable soccer game. It looked horrible!! There was blocking (looked like terrible compression effects - only way I can describe it), terrible lack of detail, etc. It looked worse than regular cable on my current TV. I currently own a 47" Panasonic CRT 1080i HD-RPTV and when I play OTA HD sports on it they look PHENOMENAL. I was shocked to see this display on the 6188 at the Tweeter. It might have been a demo source, since it was in 4:3 format with big bars on the side that said "HD" in fancy script. I know that the size increase from my 47"will result in a poorer looking picture, but I even looked at the 50" and 56" models to minimize the difference; similar results.

Now I'm really worried that I'm going to be getting a TV that looks much worse than the one I have - and pay good money for it. Bottom line is that I have to know for sure by the time the delivery is made, since the customer service at amazon told me I can always refuse delivery if I don't want it, but no returns are possible.

I wish I could see the TV outside of a lousy big box demo setting. This may sound unusual, but if there's anyone in the Baltimore (Bel Air) area that wouldn't mind demoing a real unit set up with a DVD player/cable/whatever, I'd be very appreciative. I'm only looking to spend a few minutes checking out the TV in a setting similar to how it would really look in my home.

I have a truck... so I'll bring up my 5087 to you and grab the 6187 from the airport.

Yeah, I bought my 5087 based on specs and reviews. I had a chance to see a 5687 at BB and CC. One looked great due to source material, the other looked like crap. So you'll be fine.
post #8849 of 21377
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Originally Posted by Chris Campbell View Post

I ordered my 6187 from Amazon yesterday and it told me I should expect delivery between Oct 20-24. Today it shipped out via Eagle and it said the expected delivery date is Nov 7!! That's three full weeks from now. Are these estimates usually accurate?

NO!!, usually 5-10 days when it got shipped out.
post #8850 of 21377
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Originally Posted by ronparr View Post

Nope - you're stuck with it. Up to 1/4 inch is considered within spec.


Damn, that sucks. So if I measure it being more then I could get it replaced?
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