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post #8881 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Tarheel72 View Post

Sounds like RBE to me. As for noise at start up/shut down, my 5687 is dead quiet. It is an April build, delivered the first week of June, bought it from TVA and delivered by Pilot Air.


I could be wrong but I thought RBE was only seen in movement. If the white logos were moving, then they'd leave a colored "trail" such as in movie credits or something like that.
post #8882 of 21315
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Originally Posted by ronparr View Post

Nope - you're stuck with it. Up to 1/4 inch is considered within spec.


I asked a technician about that last night and that goes for horizontal pincushioning as well (such as for widescreen movies).
post #8883 of 21315
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Originally Posted by rnick1976 View Post

Just out of curiosity ... what were his reasons for it causing more harm than good? I'm asking because tomorrow I have a tech coming out to look at two light smudges on the bottom of my screen (neither are directly in the line of sight, only visible during certain white-ish scenes), and I'm debating the pros/cons of screen replacement.

Thanks!


He said that the screen comes in two pieces. the rear layer, which from the inside of the tv lookes like it has fine lines all over it. Then there is the outer screen. Supposedly, when they assemble the TVs in the plant the screens are mounted on top of each other in a clean room so nothing gets trapped in there. He said we might go through more than one screen trying to make the problem better, but he also said it was my TV and that he'd do whatever I wanted. At first I was going to just stick with it, but now that I know that spots are there (you can't see them under normal viewing) it would bug me (especially on light scenes like you're talking about). There are a bunch of test screens in the service menu he was using. I'll dust my furniture and around the work area for him...haha.
post #8884 of 21315
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Originally Posted by mikeynavy1 View Post

I could be wrong but I thought RBE was only seen in movement. If the white logos were moving, then they'd leave a colored "trail" such as in movie credits or something like that.

RBE is seen when your eyes move rapidly across the screen with a high contrast image on it. I could never see the RBE until I did the THX video calibration tests. With the geometry test that has a thin white circle on a black field, if I follow the outline of the circle with my eyes I'll see rainbow flashes every time my eyes move (saccadic movement). I've never seen the RBE in actual content, but I've only been viewing a DLP device for five days, too.
post #8885 of 21315
I am loving my new 5688! It is definately a new viewing experience for me. At this time i only have Dish Network hooked up. I will be adding surround sound soon and was looking at a Yamaha receiver in the $500 range. It does not have HDMI. would it be advisable to go ahead and invest another $500 or more for a receiver that does. And should it support 1080, which may even bump it up even more. Dont want to spend the bucks for something thats not going to make a difference in the quallity of the picture....my plan is to get Klipsch speakers...dont know if ill just be paying for the name there...thanks in advance.
post #8886 of 21315
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Originally Posted by KRB View Post

Hi All,

I just had a "Tier 2" calibration performed on my HLS-5087 by David Abrams (www.avical.com).

Prior to the calibration I had put in the starting values for the user menu as suggested by Eliab and set Gamma to 0 in the service menu. I had a decent picture at this point but I was still expecting better contrast and punch. Also, on a lot of HD content (via DirecTV H20-600 on HDMI) I was seeing a slight "haze" on film based material that reduced perceived contrast over the whole image.

Post calibration, I am really thrilled with the picture. SD is quite watchable, DVD's look almost HD like, and true HD (well HD-Lite via DirecTV) looks stunning. Much more contrast and punch. Very vivid colors, but extremely accurate flesh tones. I can see way more shadow detail when I darken the room now. My next step is to get the OTA HD antenna setup - I can't wait to see what kind of picture I can get with that.

As for David Abrams, he was extemely patient and answered my questions in as much detail as I could handle - it was a very educational day for me - I learned a lot about my set. Overall, an extremely professional job, I am heartily recommending David to everyone.

Dang it... you folks are going to make me want a calibration sooner than later! So hard to keep chunking out the $$ after the initial big purchase. It's funny, the first 3 days I had the set... nothing could ever be better. Then I find this sight and start reading... now it seems I want it better
post #8887 of 21315
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Originally Posted by ClaytonD View Post

Dang it... you folks are going to make me want a calibration sooner than later! So hard to keep chunking out the $$ after the initial big purchase. It's funny, the first 3 days I had the set... nothing could ever be better. Then I find this sight and start reading... now it seems I want it better

We just LOVE spending other peoples money.....

Its only money....
post #8888 of 21315
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Originally Posted by slogun View Post

Have you verified your account has been disabled?
Sounds like a classic phishing attempt...
("we have disabled your account due to unauthorized activity, please click on the link below and enter all of your personal info to reactivate")

Yep, it was disabled for sure. My response to the e-mail didn't include any personally identifiable information, just to be safe. Thanks for the warning though! I think what happened was that the combination of me changing my CC info, e-mail address, password, plus the rather large purchase raised some red flags - which is understandable. What is inexcusable in my view is the fact that neither my phone or e-mail inquiry indicated that it was not going to ship out the date specified.

An update though: I printed out the Amazon page and brought it to my local Circuit City, and the matched the price. I have to pay sales tax, but I figure it's worth it to have it now and to have it from a local distributor. I pick it up tonight... I'm so excited! Still trying to figure out what stand to get... any feedback on the stock stand from Samsung?
post #8889 of 21315
Thanks for the info StallionRE and gsrblack.
Stallion, have you had any trouble exchanging tvs with them?

Tweeter is local to me, but it also makes their price that much higher from sales tax.
I dunno, I guess I'm just looking for a place that won't give me much trouble fixing and returning if any trouble should come up. Of course the more I read and get info the more I'm looking to move from the 5088 to the 5688.

Thanks again for the help!


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Originally Posted by StallionRe View Post

They are the best in my book. I bought 5 TV's from them in the past and many cables. I have never ever had a problem with them at all. I will always buy from them. There customer service is awesome. When you call them, they can tell you exactly what day you will get your stuff and where the item is. They never have Back orders that I know of.

FREE SHIPPING WAS A PLUS FOR ME!!!

Give them a call and talk to them first.
post #8890 of 21315
Rocko,

Thanks, holding the menu button for 5 seconds changed the mode to dynamic from shop mode. Settings now stay where they should be.

EWC
post #8891 of 21315
I posted here about a problem where my TV would shut off, have problems coming on, and give a patchwork reddish flickering. Curious as to whether anyone else has seen this, and whether they resolved it the same way (possible loose power connector). I don't figure this would necessarily be restricted to the HL-S5679W, so if you've seen this, please reply.
post #8892 of 21315
So could this high pitch noise from the Sammy's be that Amazon got a bad batch? There seem to be quite a few reports of people with the same issue who bought the TV around the same time frame. My 5087 should be shipping tomorrow but I'm almost expecting it to come with this odd noise. I still have the opportunity to cancel the order but I'm wondering if this is a bad batch or many of these sets have this issue.
post #8893 of 21315
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

What makes you think your first light engine was doing 1080p? The new one is no different.

You could check the new engine's part number (is it on the receipt?) with the Samsung parts department.

My tv is a 1080P set,so shouldn`t the light engine be one to?
There is no receipt for the new light engine.He,luckily, had a brand new light engine(in the box)in his truck for my tv.
There was a broken mirror on the "light tunnel"that`s inside the light engine,so he changed light engines.
post #8894 of 21315
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Originally Posted by GR1MM View Post

My tv is a 1080P set,so shouldn`t the light engine be one to?

I guess I wondered why you were wondering.

By the way it takes a 1080p light engine and a 1080p digital card to make a 1080p TV. You shouldn't have anything to worry about.
post #8895 of 21315
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post #8896 of 21315
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I guess I wondered why you were wondering.

By the way it takes a 1080p light engine and a 1080p digital card to make a 1080p TV. You shouldn't have anything to worry about.

thanks , I feel relieved
post #8897 of 21315
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Originally Posted by buccikong View Post

As I mentioned in an earlier post, replacing the power supply fixed the issue I had with a ringing noise that was only heard when the set was off. There can be other noise issues when it is turned on/off due to the color wheel. The fan can also be noisy when it's on.

On another note, has anybody had their screen replaced due to smudges? If so, can you describe the process? The tech told me yesterday that they'd have to take my set into their shop to replace the screen stack.

I never heard of a company taking any TV to their shop to replace screen. Why can't they replace it in your own home? I would never let them take the TV. These TV's are very fragile as it is. The less moving it around, the better.
post #8898 of 21315
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Originally Posted by OctavianMagnus View Post

Two quick thoughts about stands --

Places like Craigslist or other local classifieds can be well worth trolling. I'm usually pretty skeptical of used furniture but people who buy the kind of stuff we're looking at tend to baby it and if you catch the right person during a move or the like there are some real good deals out there.

And don't overlook coffee/console tables either. They're often the same basic materials and same basic dimensions but *not* priced with the fat wallets of the average home theater g00b in mind.

I've currently got a 5688 on a coffee table until I spring for a stand. It works, doesn't look bad but really doesn't look that good either. I was a little concerned about the weight until I tested it FIRST.
post #8899 of 21315
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Originally Posted by ClaytonD View Post

Dang it... you folks are going to make me want a calibration sooner than later! So hard to keep chunking out the $$ after the initial big purchase. It's funny, the first 3 days I had the set... nothing could ever be better. Then I find this sight and start reading... now it seems I want it better

YUP!!! I see that you need to get a calibration done as well. I did, and boy was it a difference!!! It is only money!! So enjoy it and spent it.
post #8900 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Ricoch3T View Post

Thanks for the info StallionRE and gsrblack.
Stallion, have you had any trouble exchanging tvs with them?

Tweeter is local to me, but it also makes their price that much higher from sales tax.
I dunno, I guess I'm just looking for a place that won't give me much trouble fixing and returning if any trouble should come up. Of course the more I read and get info the more I'm looking to move from the 5088 to the 5688.

Thanks again for the help!

NO, I never had a problem exchanging TV's at all, because to tell you the truth, I never had too. Every TV that I ever bought with them was good. The shipping was awesome. They even put the TV on a pallet. Read there Exchange policy, it looks good to me, just in case if you have to use it. Hopefully not!!
post #8901 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Gizmo Joe View Post

Has anyone connected a HD Camcorder to a HL-Sxxx8W via the Firewire (D-Net) connection? I am considering a HD Camcorder purchase (Canon HV10 looks sweet) in the near future and would love to verify I can use this connection and get the full resolution from the camcorder.

Gizmo Joe

As a follow up to my own post, I wanted to share that I also posted my question about HD camcorders sending their signal to the Samsung HL-Sxxx8W models in one of the threads discussing one of the camcorders I am considering and it seems that the Samsungs with Firewire works great! In fact, the PQ is reported to be BETTER than component and you can fully control the camcorder via the TV remote! See posts here and here for the guys comments.

My only concern is that he is talking about the Firewire in the new LED DLP Samsung 5679 which is newer that the HL-S7178 model that I am purchasing. Any reason to think that Firewire portion of the technology has been updated? If not, I cannot wait to get one of these little gems!

Gizmo Joe
post #8902 of 21315
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Originally Posted by ClaytonD View Post

Dang it... you folks are going to make me want a calibration sooner than later! So hard to keep chunking out the $$ after the initial big purchase. It's funny, the first 3 days I had the set... nothing could ever be better. Then I find this sight and start reading... now it seems I want it better

It doesn't help those who already made their purchasing decisions, but for those who haven't bought yet I suggest factoring calibration into the cost of the set just like tax, shipping, cables or a stand. It doesn't make it cheaper, but at least you know what you're getting into.

- Collin
post #8903 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Feralhog View Post

I've currently got a 5688 on a coffee table until I spring for a stand. It works, doesn't look bad but really doesn't look that good either. I was a little concerned about the weight until I tested it FIRST.

Are you kidding us??? On a coffee table. Hey treat these TV's with respect. They deserve a better plae than that. Just Kidding . I hope that it will hold it. Coffee tables are not meant to hold that much weight. Be careful man.
post #8904 of 21315
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Originally Posted by collinp View Post

It doesn't help those who already made their purchasing decisions, but for those who haven't bought yet I suggest factoring calibration into the cost of the set just like tax, shipping, cables or a stand. It doesn't make it cheaper, but at least you know what you're getting into.

- Collin

VERY GOOD POINT. Factor in about $600.00 for a good calibration. I did, and was pleased that I did.
post #8905 of 21315
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Originally Posted by StallionRe View Post

Are you kidding us??? On a coffee table. Hey treat these TV's with respect. They deserve a better plae than that. Just Kidding . I hope that it will hold it. Coffee tables are not meant to hold that much weight. Be careful man.

lol....relax.....believe me I tested it sufficiently. It's a solid piece of furniture. I can stand on it. It was either that or the floor.

I'm actually waiting for a contractor to come and enlarge the opening in the wall where my 46" Mits currently resides so that I can flush mount this one in that spot.

Then, the 46" gets a new stand. No way I'm putting that RP CRT on the coffee table! I can't even lift it.
post #8906 of 21315
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Originally Posted by StallionRe View Post

I love the pic, sweet set up. I could not see the cardboard at all, not even the tilt.
That entertainment center rocks!!!

Thanks man, it was built specifically to the dimensions of the 6767. You can definitely see the tilt but it's very slight and it does make a difference.
post #8907 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Gizmo Joe View Post

As a follow up to my own post, I wanted to share that I also posted my question about HD camcorders sending their signal to the Samsung HL-Sxxx8W models in one of the threads discussing one of the camcorders I am considering and it seems that the Samsungs with Firewire works great! In fact, the PQ is reported to be BETTER than component and you can fully control the camcorder via the TV remote! See posts here and here for the guys comments.

My only concern is that he is talking about the Firewire in the new LED DLP Samsung 5679 which is newer that the HL-S7178 model that I am purchasing. Any reason to think that Firewire portion of the technology has been updated? If not, I cannot wait to get one of these little gems!

Gizmo Joe

It should be better than component. It's an all digital connection sending the raw HDV stream to the set. The FireWire silicon looks the same on all the HLS models. The firmware could have changed to fix a few bugs in the FireWire stack, but they're probably pretty close.

There are other cool things you can do with the FireWire port, like capture your unencrypted program streams from your set top box with FireWire and save them on your computer then turn around and transmit them later to the set via FireWire. You can usually control the stream (FF, REW, PAUSE, etc) via the TVs remote. It's pretty cool. I've seen a demo of this sort of thing running on a Mac with a Sharp LCD TV. The Samsung should work pretty much the same. There are threads about this sort of stuff over in the HTPC section. For example this thread about Mac OS X.

- Collin
post #8908 of 21315
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Originally Posted by beowulf7 View Post

That's one heck of a custom home entertainment center. It's probably the largest TV I've seen fit in there.

What is unfortunate, however, is the speaker placement. Ideally, the front speakers (L, C, R) should be at the same height. You have the front sides near the floor. Angling it up might help a little, but is still not ideal. Well, I hope it at least sounds good enough for your ears.

Thanks! I understand completely what you're talking about...I struggled with speaker placement as we were designing the unit....but without boring you with all the details (like where my wife wanted her things) this was the best we could come up with.

I still sounds good though. Thanks for the tip!
post #8909 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Quisp View Post

Thanks for the feedback gadgtman....That is one giant entertainment center ya got there...Cool.

I'm curious....Just how high is your center stand off the ground?

Since the top of my corner TV stand is 32" tall, I'll definitely need to tilt my DLP forward to get a "perfect" viewing angle for my seating situation.

Thanks....the center stand is 34" off the ground. My viewing distance is between 15' -18' depending on which chair I sit in, so light dropoff isn't too bad. Any closer and it would be unacceptable.

How far away do you sit?
post #8910 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Feralhog View Post

lol....relax.....believe me I tested it sufficiently. It's a solid piece of furniture. I can stand on it. It was either that or the floor.

I'm actually waiting for a contractor to come and enlarge the opening in the wall where my 46" Mits currently resides so that I can flush mount this one in that spot.

Then, the 46" gets a new stand. No way I'm putting that RP CRT on the coffee table! I can't even lift it.

OK, I feel better now. You worried me there for a minute. We at this forum take our TV's and electronics personal, I bet you do to . Just looking out for you.

Can't wait to see pics of your new set up.
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