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post #9061 of 21377
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

A 5087 should be well under $2k and the player is under $500.

Where are you seeing the Blu-ray player for under $500? The cheapest I've seen it is $600 +s/h. (BTW, just for the record, I mistyped the Vann's price. It's $2.4k.)
post #9062 of 21377
When using the HD-A1 DVD player and watching an upconverted SD-DVD, should you use the HD color gamut or the SD color gamut?
post #9063 of 21377
Anyone looking to purchase a s6188 PM i just found an unreal deal. I am sure it will be changed by tomorrow.

Ok i replied to about 8 people. So i am sure this place is going to either sell out or change the price when they catch it.

If you want to find them go to www.pricescan.com and type in hls6188w its almost 2 large with shipping
post #9064 of 21377
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Originally Posted by wizzack View Post

I'm in NJ and had an isf calibration done by Eliab @ Avical on 10/5.

Thanks for the calibration review. I just added it to the "calibration list" linked at the bottom of my post.
post #9065 of 21377
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Originally Posted by barnninny View Post

Where are you seeing the Blu-ray player for under $500? The cheapest I've seen it is $600 +s/h. (BTW, just for the record, I mistyped the Vann's price. It's $2.4k.)


here you go buddy
http://www.**************/t/18/663053
post #9066 of 21377
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Originally Posted by laserguns View Post

here you go buddy
http://www.**************/t/18/663053

That is the Toshiba HD-DVD player not a BLU-RAY player.... I don't think you can find a BLU-RAY player for that price....

Don
post #9067 of 21377
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Originally Posted by StallionRe View Post

Htwaits,
You make some valid points here, however, the PQ does look better, I am serious about that.

Of course it does.
post #9068 of 21377
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Originally Posted by jcb68 View Post

In my calibration, I believe Eliab indicated that he checked and, in my case, the set's focus did not need to be adjusted.

Have you posted your comments about how your calibration came out? I would like to include them in the list that's linked to the bottom of my post.
post #9069 of 21377
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Originally Posted by Don1959 View Post

That is the Toshiba HD-DVD player not a BLU-RAY player.... I don't think you can find a BLU-RAY player for that price....

Don

lol indeed it is. my bad.

Blu-Ray player for under $500 = PS3 @ $499
post #9070 of 21377
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Originally Posted by Garisilver View Post

Do a search in this thread for "handshake".

I can understand the handshake issue, but why would that happen after a month, and if that's a problem, why would we bother with digital connections?

From many reports the handshake problems are intermittent, at best. When they show up seems to be fairly random. It's also entirely possible that Comcast updated your box without your knowledge and that's now causing a problem.

As far as why we'd go all digital, I really don't have an answer. Supposedly the quality is better but most people can't see any significant difference between an HDMI connection and component. I suppose you could also make an argument that the HDMI gives a cleaner look with just the one cable but that seems pretty minor to me. You can thank the content providers for the myriad problems with HDMI and HDCP. Apparently we're all thieves and are not to be trusted with unprotected video feeds.
post #9071 of 21377
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Originally Posted by StallionRe View Post

Htwaits,
You make some valid points here, however, the PQ does look better, I am serious about that. Not only was my TV calibrated but Daivd added Black Velux inside the set to make it black. The inside of the sets 2004-2005, MAYBE 2006'S are gray and this is shown on the black scenes of the picture. I am dead serious about this, that you can't see the deep rich black like it was meant to be because the sets inside are gray. Besides the adding of the velux material, the inputs needs to be set per what you have connected to them.

Overall, there is a difference all the way around with PQ, focus ring, Contrast, Tint, Color, black levels, and rainbows. After my set was calibrated, I had no more raindow effect at all. I even try to see it and can't. My wife, neighbors and friends can't even see the rainbow effect.
I am in favor in having a DLP calibrated and only the DLP sets, especially the ones that are just thrown together at the facotry and not set right.

THIS IS ALL MY OPINION AND NOTHING MORE OK!!!



Was the addition of Black Velux part of the calibration package, or was it an extra charge/request?
post #9072 of 21377
Hello all. I used DVI to HDMI cable to connect my computer and 6187W, however, the edge of my computer screen does not show up on the TV, i.e. I can only see part of my screen. I had no problem when using VGA cable. Can someone tell me how should I solve this problem? Thanks in advance.
post #9073 of 21377
Well the service center got in touch.

New screen, speakers and audio board getting ordered. Let's hope this solves it.

Is somone going to make an overscan fix? Like an add on chip or bios flash or something?

PLEASE?!?
post #9074 of 21377
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Originally Posted by curlyjive View Post

Hmm.. I wonder how he checks it to see if it is "on"

Heh, I was wondering that too. The only focus test I've ever used on anything was to twiddle the knob/slider/rings/whatever - if it got sharper it was out of focus, if it stayed about the same it wasn't
post #9075 of 21377
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Originally Posted by bigkev4123 View Post

well after a few emails with samsung about the overscan problem, they are telling me that there is no firmware update available now for the tv and that I need a tech to come out and look at it....so hopefully next week i can get a tech to my place and hopefully we can get the ball rolling on a firmware update for the 87 series...i will keep you all posted

Am I reading this right -- Samsung is sending a tech out to look at an overscan issue?
post #9076 of 21377
Can anyone using the VGA port please tell me what settings become greyed out? Can you use movie mode at least? I wanted to use the VGA port for the Xbox 360 update but if I can't adjust settings then it's probably not worth it.
post #9077 of 21377
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Originally Posted by newsguy View Post

Can anyone using the VGA port please tell me what settings become greyed out? Can you use movie mode at least? I wanted to use the VGA port for the Xbox 360 update but if I can't adjust settings then it's probably not worth it.

I am also hoping to use the VGA port for XBox 360 1080p output of games and upconverted DVDs (with upcoming fall Dashboard update). Anyone connecting their XBox 360 via VGA currently? How does it look vs component?

Gizmo Joe
post #9078 of 21377
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Originally Posted by newsguy View Post

Can anyone using the VGA port please tell me what settings become greyed out? Can you use movie mode at least? I wanted to use the VGA port for the Xbox 360 update but if I can't adjust settings then it's probably not worth it.

You can use the movie mode. Changeable options include brightness and contrast; color is set to 45. I calibrated last night with DVE and am very happy with it. Colors were close using the color filter(CCA off), not exact though. Put Saving Private Ryan in the box and looked stellar(DB and DB Aperature were set to off, 1:1 pixel mapping, and Gamma/Cinema Gamma set to film '0').
post #9079 of 21377
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Originally Posted by fookes View Post

You can use the movie mode. Changeable options include brightness and contrast; color is set to 45. I calibrated last night with DVE and am very happy with it. Colors were close using the color filter(CCA off), not exact though. Put Saving Private Ryan in the box and looked stellar(DB and DB Aperature were set to off, 1:1 pixel mapping, and Gamma/Cinema Gamma set to film '0').

How were you able to acheive 1:1 pixel mapping? I read that there is a black border around the screen for VGA because the image only fills 95% of the screen, did you use the "P.size" button to fill it up?
post #9080 of 21377
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Originally Posted by fookes View Post

You can use the movie mode. Changeable options include brightness and contrast; color is set to 45. I calibrated last night with DVE and am very happy with it. Colors were close using the color filter(CCA off), not exact though. Put Saving Private Ryan in the box and looked stellar(DB and DB Aperature were set to off, 1:1 pixel mapping, and Gamma/Cinema Gamma set to film '0').

What did you set the brightness and contrast at? Also why will it not bring up the stretch option when I hit the P size button. The green light on the TV blinks but the picture adjust screen never shows up.
post #9081 of 21377
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Originally Posted by newsguy View Post

How were you able to acheive 1:1 pixel mapping? I read that there is a black border around the screen for VGA because the image only fills 95% of the screen, did you use the "P.size" button to fill it up?

You are probably right, it is not 'true' 1:1 as there are still black borders around the screen in which I had to re-size, more simply overscan was turned off. I am hopeful the 1080p update will change this, although I think we may still see black bars as the native resolution is 1920 x 1200 on the vga port. We'll see.
post #9082 of 21377
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

If he isn't on the road I think he would be glad to show it to you. He even invited me.



Ask him, but I doubt it. Depending on the distance and line of sight your parents may not need an external antenna for HDTV.

That's nice of Eliab and I bet it also bring him more business, so I can understand why he'd want strangers over to check out his HTS.

I forgot that since my parents' HDTV is only HD-ready (it was bought in Nov. 2003), it needs an HD receiver/tuner. At the time, it cost $600-700 or so, but I think it's quite a bit cheaper today. I know that all HDTVs manufactured now are required to have an HD receiver/tuner built-in.
post #9083 of 21377
Eliab

Do you travel to the Dallas area? If so, when is your next trip?
post #9084 of 21377
Guys---I just picked up a 6188 for $2,078 with a tracking number. Do you think the price will go down after X-mas/after the superbowl?
post #9085 of 21377
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Originally Posted by fookes View Post

You are probably right, it is not 'true' 1:1 as there are still black borders around the screen in which I had to re-size, more simply overscan was turned off. I am hopeful the 1080p update will change this, although I think we may still see black bars as the native resolution is 1920 x 1200 on the vga port. We'll see.


I appreciate your info fookes. I really want that 1080p for the HD-DVD movies.
post #9086 of 21377
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Originally Posted by Blade2000 View Post

Yes, the screen appears to bow in (at least the inside screen). I can notice the bowing if I look down into the screen fron close range. It is most noticeable on 4:3 pictures becuase the side bars bend out towards the bottom. I think it might alos impact my widescreen picture to some degree as well.

Is there a setting somewhere that can adjust (or compensate) for this? I hate to have a technican come to "fix" this, especially on a new set - and the second of the same model. This is really disappointing.

Is there a specific link you have posted that addresses this? I looked through some of your posts but did not see one that details if it can be corrected. Thanks for the help.

On yesterday's post, I said what I would try if I find the time. Is there a fix? No. The image starts out flat at the DMD and supposed to end flat at the screen. On one of my earlier posts, I stated that what we are seeing is minor compared to the nightmare of adjusting the earlier flatscreen faced CRT monitors.

Carl
post #9087 of 21377
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Originally Posted by fookes View Post

You are probably right, it is not 'true' 1:1 as there are still black borders around the screen in which I had to re-size, more simply overscan was turned off. I am hopeful the 1080p update will change this, although I think we may still see black bars as the native resolution is 1920 x 1200 on the vga port. We'll see.

Don't you mean 1920 x 1080? If not, how could the VGA port exceed the resolution of the other inputs? I would think the 1080p XBox 360 fall update will make it a perfect fit on our sets (especially with overscan turned off).

Gizmo Joe
post #9088 of 21377
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Guys---I just picked up a 6188 for $2,078 with a tracking number. Do you think the price will go down after X-mas/after the superbowl?

If it does, it will be minimal. And by then, you'll be thinking about the 2007 models anyway.

Pick this one up ... you've done PLENTY of research!!!!
post #9089 of 21377
Well Samsung sent a tech out. He said that he never heard a DLP sound that bad. Definitely the color wheel gone bad. Which is odd since it wasn't touched over a week and starts making the noise and such. There's some weird scratch on the screen which he has to get auth to replace but it's annoying since now that the entire light engine has been replaced I have to cross my fingers and hope the screen is replaced or pay the $232 + $97 S&H for a new screen. Plus the TV is only two months old. I'm already wishing I paid for that Magnolia warranty or waited a month and maybe got that LED model :-)

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Originally Posted by corego View Post

The sound from mine is neither a whine, humming, or buzzing. It's more of a grinding. Like if you turned the garbage disposal on and off a couple times clearing out any last bits of food. Seriously sounds like that. Oddly the picture is fine from what I can tell. Got some flickering last night and also had the sound continue while watching TV and it was fully warmed up.

Something strange is definitely up with my set. Sad as it is only 2 months old. Not sure what it might be though.

I called up and Samsung is sending someone out to my place Friday.
post #9090 of 21377
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Originally Posted by corego View Post

Well Samsung sent a tech out. He said that he never heard a DLP sound that bad. Definitely the color wheel gone bad. Which is odd since it wasn't touched over a week and starts making the noise and such. There's some weird scratch on the screen which he has to get auth to replace but it's annoying since now that the entire light engine has been replaced I have to cross my fingers and hope the screen is replaced or pay the $232 + $97 S&H for a new screen. Plus the TV is only two months old. I'm already wishing I paid for that Magnolia warranty or waited a month and maybe got that LED model :-)

Interesting, the new led models don't use a color wheel? I thought the led's just replace the 87/88 models light?
Sorry if its a dumb question, I did a little research on the led tv but do not know a ton about it yet.
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