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post #9901 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Azalo View Post

thanks for replying and yes i am entering the full digital number. i talked to samsung and apparently it is by design that it won't allow you to go to a channel that it hasn't found in the autoscan. my main problem is with NBC and CBS it usually either finds one or the other, but i have nbc right now so i'll probably just leave it since i mainly want to watch, Heroes, Lost and Sunday Night Football in HD, don't really watch any CBS shows.

If the tuner has not found a given digital channel on the last scan, then it doesn't know anything about that channel. You then have to enter the actual channel number of the digital channel.

For example, say analog channel 6 broadcasts a digital signal on channel 56. If channel 56 was received in the last scan, then the tuner will know that virtual channels 6-1, 6-2, etc., can be received by tuning to channel 56. If the tuner didn't receive channel 56 on the last scan (perhaps it was off the air, or the signal was weak), then the tuner can't relate 6-1 or 6-2 to channel 56.

The solution is to manually tune to channel 56. If it is receivable, it will then display as channel 6-1. Once channel 56 has been received, it can subsequently be tuned by entering 6-1 or 6-2. If you don't know the actual digital channel number, they can be found at many sites on the internet.
post #9902 of 21315
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Originally Posted by perpetual View Post

I found what the problem was and I'm really happy that It wasn't the tv. I went to the Sony support web site to see what updates were available for my specific model and bang. The last three updates were created to resolve a problem where the laptop couldn't send a display signal to some monitors. I did the three upgrades and now everything is working fine. The highest resolution I can get is 1600 x 1200 but I dont think thats a wide resolution because everything gets strecht out(can you confirm this). I got it on 1280 x 768 and everything looks alright with that one nothing looks strecht out. Thanks for all of your help.

Nice man! Now with powerstrip, it will let you change the res to manually entered resolutions. For instance, the res you have chossen is a 16x10 res where your tv is 16x9 Just use the res for one of the 720P tv's. It will look much better.

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Originally Posted by Eliab View Post

Thanks very much for your interest!

I don't have anything in the books but that can all change if enough interest in your area or leading to you were to abound. PM me for more info.

Eliab


cool, I know there are a few in the st. louis area too.
post #9903 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Eliab View Post

Congratulations! 8' is a little close (in my book) but if most of your viewing is HD material - you can probably get away with it. Plus, I bet it's really immersive. Also, I'm glad to hear that my suggested starter settings improved the picture somewhat.

When I bought it I was worried it would be too large, but wanted to get the biggest I could afford right now, since I plan to keep it for many years. I'm happy with the distance, but the picture would be better sitting a little further away.

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I don't believe so. Specifically, which sources appear jittery to you?

I think it is just the Comcast DVR. It seems to be jittery from time to time. It seems like it is dropping frames and isn't smooth. This is mainly noticeable in scenes with panning. Sometimes its perfect, and then sometimes it gets jittery. The weakest link in my system is definately my Comcast DVR.

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If the tilt really bugs you, you should have one of Samsung's techs come out and reposition the DMD module.

So that is something that will be covered under warranty?

Do you have any plans to have a tour in the Nashville, TN area?

Thanks!
post #9904 of 21315
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Originally Posted by ClaytonD View Post

BTW... I have a 3250 HD Explorer box too (just branded from Scientific Atlanta).
With this box you need to make sure it's set to output all 3 levels: 480i, 720p, 1080i. When I got it from the cc, they had it set to 720p only. It's a little confusing in the menus in that it makes you think you can only select one output resolution, but that's not true. You actually "select" each one. Then depending on the channel, the box will send the correct resolution and not attempt to "up convert" a SD channel to something higher. Once I figured this out, the SD channels look great. They weren't too bad before, but now they're way better than the CRT.

NICE !!

Thanks so much for that bit of info about the CC HD Box. Makes me happy to know it is capable of that option.

You made my day.

Cheers
post #9905 of 21315
Well, I have to thank Jeff Meier ( umr ) of Accucal for coming out today and calibrating my new 6188. Jeff gets my 5 Star, Class A rating for the excellent job he did in calibrating my set. Without going into techie details, rest assured he's using the best test equipment and some proprietary software he designed (he's an engineer) to get it spot on.

The results are absolutely stunning....really amazing. Even Jeff was impressed.

The most reassuring part for me was learning from Jeff that he didn't have to make any "compromise" settings on the 6188 to get a "best available" picture---he was able to directly achieve the desired output with his tools. It really reinforced my confidence in the purchase of the 6188.

Now I need to build an audio system so Jeff can return and professionally calibrate that, as well.
post #9906 of 21315
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Originally Posted by texviddy View Post

Well, I have to thank Jeff Meier ( umr ) of Accucal for coming out today and calibrating my new 6188.

Thanks for the report. I've added it to the calibration list linked at the bottom of my post.

In the other thread where you posted a report I ask you to add your model number so that I could include it. That's taken care of now.
post #9907 of 21315
I will be playing lots of games (360, PS2, PS3, Wii) as well as watching DirecTV (HD package), Blu-ray/HD-DVD's, etc

So I've been torn between the HLS6187 and the Sony 60A200. What facts should I know (considering gaming at 480i & p, 720p, 1080p)? I've asked for opinions from quite a few people at other places and had mixed opinions. Both put out an amazing picture IMO and I'm hard pressed to chose a favorite.

Pro's = to the Sammy as I understand it are 1080p over component and VGA, which the Sony does not have

Con's = not sure.. I don't see rainbows. Is fatigue eye factor factor on one tech (DLP or lcos) versus another..

Any differences in which model truly resolves the full 1080p signal?
post #9908 of 21315
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Originally Posted by wbertram View Post

If the tuner has not found a given digital channel on the last scan, then it doesn't know anything about that channel. You then have to enter the actual channel number of the digital channel.

For example, say analog channel 6 broadcasts a digital signal on channel 56. If channel 56 was received in the last scan, then the tuner will know that virtual channels 6-1, 6-2, etc., can be received by tuning to channel 56. If the tuner didn't receive channel 56 on the last scan (perhaps it was off the air, or the signal was weak), then the tuner can't relate 6-1 or 6-2 to channel 56.

The solution is to manually tune to channel 56. If it is receivable, it will then display as channel 6-1. Once channel 56 has been received, it can subsequently be tuned by entering 6-1 or 6-2. If you don't know the actual digital channel number, they can be found at many sites on the internet.

These are my channels according to antennaweb:

* red - uhf WHRO-DT 15.1 PBS HAMPTON-NORFOLK VA 201° 20.4 16
* red - uhf WGNT-DT 27.1 CW PORTSMOUTH VA 195° 19.8 50
* red - uhf WVBT-DT 43.1 FOX VIRGINIA BEACH VA 203° 19.6 29
* red - uhf WVEC-DT 13.1 ABC HAMPTON VA 196° 19.6 41
* red - uhf WPXV-DT 49.1 i NORFOLK VA 201° 20.4 46
* red - uhf WTKR-DT 3.1 CBS NORFOLK VA 201° 20.4 40
* red - uhf WTVZ-DT 33.1 MNT NORFOLK VA 201° 20.4 38
* red - uhf WAVY-DT 10.1 NBC PORTSMOUTH VA 203° 19.6 31

So what you are saying is that if the TV doesnt pick up 3.1 on the autoscan, I should input 40 and then it will pick it up and associate it with 3.1? not sure if i understand what you mean.
post #9909 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Eliab View Post

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you will never be able to attain correct color space, color decoder, or grayscale settings (to name a few) without a professional calibration. That's the bad news. The good news, however, is that once calibrated, your display will far surpass what your HLN was ever capable of. In fact, your display can be calibrated to resemble the look of a 25K professional broadcast monitor. No display in the history of consumer displays has been able to do so so closely.

Eliab

I retract my comments.. I've had the pleasure of veiwing both sets next to each other veiwing the same singal from comcast HD. Just had the color wheel replaced in the old HLN 61 Sammy and since it was just right there in the living room with the new set i decided to hook them up.. The new set with HDMI and the old set with component. My jaw dropped to the floor! I was shocked! WOW what a difference! Night and day between the 2 sets. Totally cleaner and dynamic on the new set. lol.. I could never go back to the older set. I'm totally excited with the new Tv.

Sure maybe somewhere down the line if i have the spare cash i'll opt for some calibration on the set but i'm fine!
post #9910 of 21315
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You have to ask yourself "Do I feel lucky?". I'm very tempted to buy from the online retailers and save $400 but I think I'm going to stick with the chains that offer the 30 day return/ exchange policy.

I thought that too, but since the '88' wasn't available locally (at least not until after I got my set), I went with Vanns with absolutely no regrets. Price, included shipping, return policy and price protection (I received $200 back for price drops).
post #9911 of 21315
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Originally Posted by schererbuzz View Post

On the right hand side, about an inch under where it says Welcome, 'your username' right under the amount of pages in a thread, it says 'search this thread'.

you got it! and when you open the box, right under the space to input your search terms is a hyperlink for an Advanced Search that will help you narrow down your search. I think it is pretty easy to use and I find the results easy to read. I start as specific as I can get and then work out from there if needed.

Hey, I sometimes screw it up as well. But I bet if you eliminate the number of times someone has asked the difference between the 87 and 88 series, does the set have game lag with video games, or what are the suggested video settings you could reduce the thread by about 100 pages. I understand that you are sometimes dealing with people who are new to forums and don't even realize that there is a search function, but I can dream can't I?
post #9912 of 21315
just a quick question I haven't seen answered. Does changing a blown bulb effect calibration? Will a HLS**87 need to be recalibrated after putting in a new bulb, or should the picture stay the same?
post #9913 of 21315
Quick answer: A little recalibration is necessary because it is a new light source. No where close as intensive as the first calibration though.
post #9914 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Management View Post

Quick answer: A little recalibration is necessary because it is a new light source. No where close as intensive as the first calibration though.

I asked this earlier but no answer.
What if you get a professional calibration and then you have a major malfuntion (like a light engine replacement)?
These sets get high praise but problems don't seem rare. It could bee that all problems are funneled to this forum so that the "silent majority" don't have problems.
Still, is it advisable to wait on calibration to make sure that you don't have problems?
post #9915 of 21315
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

I thought that too, but since the '88' wasn't available locally (at least not until after I got my set), I went with Vanns with absolutely no regrets. Price, included shipping, return policy and price protection (I received $200 back for price drops).

That's good news, I'm considering Vann's as well.

Nick
post #9916 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Farlaugh View Post

BE VERY CAREFUL with the fans. Just an fyi if you are thinking of replacing it yourself.

I think trying to replace it is a little out of my technical expertise. That being said, would greasing it help with the high pitched random hum?

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Originally Posted by Eliab View Post

It has one fan and the color wheel is part of the light engine.

Eliab

Thanks. So, if I already had the whole light engine replaced and still hear the same noise, it could just be me being overly sensitive? What would be the chances of getting two bad light engines in a row? I need to find some quality room treatments to try to absorb the sound. The towels I currently have taped to the back left of the tv don't exactly cut it.

Dave
post #9917 of 21315
Tech just left after replacing my light engine in my HL-S6187W ... it looks better than ever. He said he didn't have to do anything to the color wheel. The sidebars on non-HD material are better aligned than before. A new bulb DOES come with the entire light engine. It probably took him just around 30 minutes. He did go into the service menu and reset the hour meter for the lamp.
post #9918 of 21315
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Originally Posted by eclypse View Post

Hell yes its very important to buy the best warrenty you can get that also covers the light balb. The light balb costs $200+ and you most likely will be replacing it every 2 years. I've had my 61 DLP set for 3 years and have replaced the balb 2 times already .. But its all good since the 5 year extended warrenty covers it. Buy the TV somewhere else that you can get a better warrenty. Somewhere local like a Best Buy or CC would be ideal.

Thanks for the reply. If you dont mind me asking, how much extra did your warranty cost? Does it come with onsite repair?

Do you/anyone else know if you can buy a Sammy online and then get a warranty from another company not sold by the online site you buy it from? I'd feel like that'd be ideal. Cost wise, anyway.
post #9919 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Sphinky View Post

When I called Tiger Direct to order the same Tv they asked why we were ordering from them. We told them we had been screwed over by another online dealer. Thay asked us who it was and we said we would rather not say, the the sales lady said they have had more then 6 people call who had orded from TVAUTHORITY in the last 6 monthes with the same problem. She said this without us saying who we had ordered from. Makes me wonder. Yes this is the only time I have ordered from them (I don't order a $2250 TV every month) so I am just letting people know. People on this board can defend them until they are blue in the face. The fact is they dropped the ball big time on our order and it sounds like we are not alone. Take it for what it is worth.

I hear you...and I don't question what you are saying. TVA must be slipping, for whatever reason. But you can't blame some of us who were very pleased with them and their topnotch service for defending what at that time was an excellent online dealer. I would like to hear from others who have purchased recently from TVA to see if they had the same bad experience as you did. Here's one from last month that was positive: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post8832190 Oh and by the way, I have no stock in their company!
post #9920 of 21315
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Originally Posted by RealAudiophobe View Post

I asked this earlier but no answer.
What if you get a professional calibration and then you have a major malfuntion (like a light engine replacement)?
These sets get high praise but problems don't seem rare. It could bee that all problems are funneled to this forum so that the "silent majority" don't have problems.
Still, is it advisable to wait on calibration to make sure that you don't have problems?

This has been answered before on the thread. I was informed by one of the expert calibrators on this thread that once the set is calibrated if the light engine is exchanged it would need a new calibration. If the bulb is changed, it should get a calibration check up (they advised that they would be glad to do this at a reduced cost, when back in your area). They also advised that it would be ideal to have a "check up" calibration once a year.

Obviously, if you have a set calibrated and send it back for a new one due to a problem, you would have to do an entirely new calibration at the full cost.
post #9921 of 21315
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Originally Posted by kaneda33 View Post

Do you/anyone else know if you can buy a Sammy online and then get a warranty from another company not sold by the online site you buy it from? I'd feel like that'd be ideal. Cost wise, anyway.

HiDef Lifestyles seems to have the best price on RepairMaster Extended Warranties, but the web site doesn't say if they are available for products purchased elsewhere. You might use the "Need Assistance? Click here to chat with a representative" link at the bottom of the page.

OR:

TelevisionWarranties.com ("Our RepairMaster Extended Service Plans may be purchased for items you bought elsewhere, as long as these items are still under the original manufacturer's warranty..")

OR:

TVAuthority Warranties ("Extended warranties available even if your product was purchased from a different store. Purchase any time, provided that there is a minimum of 90 days remaining on the factory parts and labor warranty.")

Disclaimer: While I do have a RepairMaster Warranty from TVAuthority, I have not had the occasion to use it, so I am unable to attest that these warranties perform as advertised. However, I'm more comfortable having one.
post #9922 of 21315
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Originally Posted by texviddy View Post

I'm not seeing it?

Thanks for the heads up. I must have previewed it but didn't so a save.

It's not the first time that I've done that. I need warnings for all my "destructive" actions.
post #9923 of 21315
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Thanks for the heads up.

No worries, thanks for posting those....they help!
post #9924 of 21315
I measured the bars on 4:3 material on my 6187. At the bottom on the right side the picture starts 5.5 inches from the side of where the screen starts, and at the top it measure 6 inches. This makes the picture appear to be slanted to the left. I read in this thread that they allow for .25 inches. Am I measuring correctly? Is a half an inch difference in where the picture is on the top and bottom of the screen more than what is normal on these sets? The bars on the left side are also off by half an inch, but rather than being slanted it is bowed inward half an inch.
post #9925 of 21315
Hey guys, there is a powerbuy going right now for extended warranties. Check the thread. i did a lot of research on MACk and they have been around longer than I have. If they have been around that long and I, Google master, can only find 2 mad people, they must do what they say they do. FYI, TV's 2500 and under with a 3yr bulb replacement warranty, $210
post #9926 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Azalo View Post

These are my channels according to antennaweb:

* red - uhf WHRO-DT 15.1 PBS HAMPTON-NORFOLK VA 201° 20.4 16
* red - uhf WGNT-DT 27.1 CW PORTSMOUTH VA 195° 19.8 50
* red - uhf WVBT-DT 43.1 FOX VIRGINIA BEACH VA 203° 19.6 29
* red - uhf WVEC-DT 13.1 ABC HAMPTON VA 196° 19.6 41
* red - uhf WPXV-DT 49.1 i NORFOLK VA 201° 20.4 46
* red - uhf WTKR-DT 3.1 CBS NORFOLK VA 201° 20.4 40
* red - uhf WTVZ-DT 33.1 MNT NORFOLK VA 201° 20.4 38
* red - uhf WAVY-DT 10.1 NBC PORTSMOUTH VA 203° 19.6 31

So what you are saying is that if the TV doesnt pick up 3.1 on the autoscan, I should input 40 and then it will pick it up and associate it with 3.1? not sure if i understand what you mean.

In your location, if you input Channel 40, and if you can receive it, the set will associate virtual channel 3-1 with rf Channel 40, and if you subsequently enter channel 3-1, the set will tune to rf channel 40. If the set has never received channel 40, it will have no association, and no idea of what to do if you enter channel 3-1.

Assuming, of course, that you can actually receive rf channel 40. There must be a reason that Channel 40 wasn't received on the original and subsequent scans.
post #9927 of 21315
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Originally Posted by Rijax View Post

HiDef Lifestyles seems to have the best price on RepairMaster Extended Warranties, but the web site doesn't say if they are available for products purchased elsewhere. You might use the "Need Assistance? Click here to chat with a representative" link at the bottom of the page.

OR:

TelevisionWarranties.com ("Our RepairMaster Extended Service Plans may be purchased for items you bought elsewhere, as long as these items are still under the original manufacturer's warranty..")

OR:

TVAuthority Warranties ("Extended warranties available even if your product was purchased from a different store. Purchase any time, provided that there is a minimum of 90 days remaining on the factory parts and labor warranty.")

Disclaimer: While I do have a RepairMaster Warranty from TVAuthority, I have not had the occasion to use it, so I am unable to attest that these warranties perform as advertised. However, I'm more comfortable having one.

these sites have prices so good that it's hard to believe. I'm close to pulling the trigger on a 6187 at CC and the ext. warranty there is over $200 more for a 3 year than for a 5 yr. at these sites.
Have you bought from them?
post #9928 of 21315
I paid i think $500 for the old 61 Samsung for 5 years.. man did i make out on that! hehe.. I've just had the service guy come out today and put in a new color wheel and all is well this time.. I had the color wheel changed out ironically exactly a year ago.. though i think it was bad when i got it cause it made a faint sound that only got worse and louder throught the year.. this one is dead silent.

So far i've had 2 bulb changes and 2 color wheels in the 3 years i've had the set.. Now with the bulbs costing 200+ each i've made out.. not sure what the color wheel costs.

I believe the bulbs burnt out so soon due to power outages.. need a backup source for the tv so the fan will cool down the bulb after you turn off the tv.. unlike when the power goes out and theres no cooling.. These bulbs get super hot!

On the new 61 Samsung i got a 4 year warrenty from BB and it cost $450. If i'm still using the set in 4 years i'll forsure grab another extended warrenty since its a must with the bulb costs.

Oh yeah.. Parts and labor are all covered.. So dont buy without a long warrenty!
post #9929 of 21315
Remember that Best Buy will price match! Dont matter where.. They want the sale.. So if you can get a better warrenty from BB get it there. Delivery charge is $50.. But i picked it up myself.

Have no clue what kind of warrenty CC has though..
post #9930 of 21315
Okay, just hooked up my Samsung 61 inch TV. I have the Toshiba HD-DVD player hooked up through HDMI directly into the TV but no picture is coming through. Just comes up with a black screen and says "Weak or no signal"
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