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post #31 of 2215
Whats the chances of a pic of one of your poorer sd stations, when your done with that movie.
post #32 of 2215
Thread Starter 
Sure...that's the beauty of TIVO! I really haven't watched enough SD to know what stations are poorer than others just yet. Here's a sampling of what I found...

1). TNT which I feel has good PQ
2). HBO which has good PQ as well
3). Local NBC news with decent PQ but not great
4). Local CBS news with what I felt was worst SD PQ. ***I'll put this in a followup post since I'm limited to three attachments.

I am using the Zoom-2 setting on my TV. Per my earlier posts, my provider is DirecTV. When not zooming, the PQ is better.

Just an FYI - what you're seeing on the screen in many of these photos is the reflection of some toddler toys on my floor. The flash really brings out any item reflecting off the screen. For example, if you look at the first picture from TNT (Law and Order) you'll see some odd shapes on the left hand side of the screen. That's my 9 month old daughter's excersaucer and not any crazy artifacts
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post #33 of 2215
Thread Starter 
Here's the fourth pic. These four photos are great examples of how the Zoom-2 will look. I really cuts off the top and bottom as you can tell from my TIVO status bar or the station logos. Not the greatest, but I'll live with it for a while as I break-in the TV.
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post #34 of 2215
I'm really impressed, and I know what you mean about zoomed not as sharp as native res. I have a habit of zooming HD on my 32" 4x3, sometimes it is fine, other times not so good. Thanks loads for the pictures.
post #35 of 2215
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dirtydan View Post

Very nice, but I didn't see any sign of a flash from your camera..

The only way to avoid the flash from appearing like the north star is to take the picture at an angle. Doing this at least keeps the flash itself out of the picture. The problem is that the ambient light created by the flash does wash out the screen a bit. This wasn't as much of a problem on my Sunrise Earth shots as it was for the Constantine shot. That Constantine pic has a haze to it that was the result of the flash. You'll have to take my word that the actual scene was much sharper and had better black levels.
post #36 of 2215
Have you tried a shot without flash, seems like that would work?
post #37 of 2215
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Originally Posted by dirtydan View Post

Thanks loads for the pictures.

No problem! Glad I can help. My last HD purchase (before the HP) was for an LCD that was brand new with no personal reviews at all. I took a risk buying it and was ultimately dissapointed.

I'm more than happy to arm any potential HP PDP buyer with as much info as possible before they make their purchase. I'm definitely satisfied so far, but other buyers may feel differently based on my posts and pics. Hey, that's as American as apple pie
post #38 of 2215
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Originally Posted by Lumberg View Post

No problem! Glad I can help. My last HD purchase (before the HP) was for an LCD that was brand new with no personal reviews at all. I took a risk buying it and was ultimately dissapointed.

I'm more than happy to arm any potential HP PDP buyer with as much info as possible before they make their purchase. I'm definitely satisfied so far, but other buyers may feel differently based on my posts and pics. Hey, that's as American as apple pie

Thanks for the info. I too have sprung for one of the HP 50 inchers sight unseen. Quite a stretch for this normally careful buyer, but after looking at the competition (including the LG models), I figured it was worth the risk.
post #39 of 2215
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Originally Posted by Lumberg View Post

Here are a few screen shots of my PL4260N. I'm not very good at capturing screen shots accurately. The photo from the movie Constantine is a pretty poor rendition of the actual screen. The flash washes out some of the dark colors and gives the scene a much lighter appearance. My contrast and brightness are both at 47 right now.

One complaint I have about this set so far is that it does not have a zoom fill mode like the Toshiba. For example on digital broadcast (non HD) you are stuck with watching with the black bar on the side, no way to zoom fill the screen. SD broadcast on the digital channle looks very good, but SD broadcast on the analog channel looks terrible to me, I am guessing the built NTSC tuner is not very good.
post #40 of 2215
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Originally Posted by Lumberg View Post

Here's the fourth pic. These four photos are great examples of how the Zoom-2 will look. I really cuts off the top and bottom as you can tell from my TIVO status bar or the station logos. Not the greatest, but I'll live with it for a while as I break-in the TV.

That is strange... on my PL5060N, the Zoom-2 will not fill the screen when I try to zomm fill a digital broadcast (non HD) received on the OTA HD channel.
post #41 of 2215
Any opinions on how this compares to the PL5000 - reason being is that the old more expensive PL500 is being clearenced a to a local store for the same price as the PL5060.

I like the sd card inputs on the PL5000 but how does the old Panasonic screen stack up to the newer gen LG???

Thanks
post #42 of 2215
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Originally Posted by Pavman1 View Post

Any opinions on how this compares to the PL5000 - reason being is that the old more expensive PL500 is being clearenced a to a local store for the same price as the PL5060.

I like the sd card inputs on the PL5000 but how does the old Panasonic screen stack up to the newer gen LG???

Thanks

Unfortunately, I can't offer a comparison since I had no personal experience with the outgoing HP PDP's. If you simply look at the specs on paper, the Panny based displays have more colors and better gradiation than the new models. Have you checked your BB to see if they have the new 4260N or 5060N on display?
post #43 of 2215
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Originally Posted by Pavman1 View Post

Any opinions on how this compares to the PL5000 - reason being is that the old more expensive PL5000 is being clearenced a to a local store for the same price as the PL5060.

I like the sd card inputs on the PL5000 but how does the old Panasonic screen stack up to the newer gen LG???

I would imagine that the PL5000 will have better PQ than the 5060. It's pretty well agreed that the Panny panel looks better than any LG panel. HP has taken a step backwards by using the LG glass, but i presume they weren't able to source Panny glass this year so they had no choice but to go with someone else. I wonder just how much better the older model looks compared to the newer one? Is the difference slight or substantial?
post #44 of 2215
Hello folks,

I just received the 50" HP PL5060N Plasma TV today. Needless to say, I am super excited . I hooked up the HDMI to DVI and the picture quality was awesome. I cannot compare it to other sets since this is my first, but I was pretty happy overall. The TV came within a week and the deliver guys (North American Home Lines) were terrific. They hooked up the stand and the speakers. The mounting unit + wiring came via FedEx Home Delivery and that turned out to be a hassle because they their terminals are different from the regular FedEx terminals and I had to take a 1/2 day off to make sure I was home to receive this stuff. But hey, no complaints so far.

What was very impressive about this set was that while the analog channels were not as clear as the digital ones, they were pretty good. Unfortunately I had to watch the TV via the component cables because the voice was not available via the HDMI-DVI cable and I do not have a home theatre system (yet).

I was planning on holding back on the home theatre for some time, but after setting the TV, the audio that comes with this TV does not do justice to its excellent video capabilities. So, I am in the market for a Home Theatre system for around $ 1000 and could really use your help.

I am a novice in the audio area. I never owned one before and this will be my first experience at it. So, please forgive me for asking the below beginner questions. I read some of the older posts in the audio section where the Athena B1.2 speakers and the HK 240 receiver with the Dannon sub seem to be highly recommended. I plan to mount the TV on top of the fire place. The living room is about 17 x 18 but the TV can also be seen from the nook and kitchen area. Because of this set up, I was planning on going with wall mountable speakers. From the pictures I saw, the B1.2 speakers seem to be book shelf speakers and are not wall mountable.

From what I can understand by reading the posts, I would need the following components to set up a decent home theatre.

Speakers (5 or 7)
Receiver
Sub Woofer
DVD player

If any of you experts recommend, I probably can set the front speakers on a book shelf, but the rear ones need to go on the wall . Can you please suggest the combination that you would recommend for normal TV viewing and occasionally music listening.

Let me know if you want me to run any tests or anything on the TV and I will post the results.

Best Regards
post #45 of 2215
Thread Starter 
phani119,

Congrats on the purchase! You 50" guys are making me feel inferior If you can afford it, you may want to consider a receiver that has built-in HDMI switching. They're fairly expensive, but it will give you more flexibility moving forward since the TV has only one HMDI input.

Enjoy the TV!
post #46 of 2215
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Originally Posted by Lumberg View Post

Unfortunately, I can't offer a comparison since I had no personal experience with the outgoing HP PDP's. If you simply look at the specs on paper, the Panny based displays have more colors and better gradiation than the new models. Have you checked your BB to see if they have the new 4260N or 5060N on display?

Yes, I have seen the newer models at BB; however, I have not seen them side by side - I do like the looks of the 5000 better but I cannot compare the glass - I cannot discern if the LG is a newer gen that performs better than the outgoing 50u panny glass.

I have the itch to buy, but don't want to make a stupid mistake!
post #47 of 2215
Hey Lumberg,
Thanks for the pics. I am seriously thinking about getting this panel after looking at your pics :-)
Sadly, none of my local BB stores have these units on display
BTW, the hot air balloon pics, is that a HD feed?
post #48 of 2215
Thanks Lumberg,

What are the chances of being able to buy a receiver with built-in HDMI switching and the rest of the components for around a grand, and if so any recommendations here? Also, could you give me some advice on the brand and make of the other componenets you would recommend based on my room situation.

Thanks
post #49 of 2215
I thought someone posted that he bought the Pioneer elite 74 at BB just about that price.
post #50 of 2215
Is HP Shopping charging sales tax?
post #51 of 2215
Yes, they are charging sales tax but no shipping, which about washes it out. B&M will get you for both.
post #52 of 2215
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Originally Posted by Amikemcmanus View Post

Is HP Shopping charging sales tax?

Yes, HP does charge sales tax for the TV and components for the state they are shipping to. There is no sales tax on extended warranty though.
post #53 of 2215
Thread Starter 
There are probably much better people to answer this question than me. You may want to search other threads for advice.

I can tell you that the JVC RX-D702B, Yamaha RX-V1600, and Onkyo TX-SR803 are probably the least expensive name brand receivers with HDMI switching. All three will accept two HDMI inputs and one output (for your TV). Check out some online sources for pricing. You can definitely get these receivers for less than a grand, but your leftovers may not be enough for good speakers.

The HDMI switching is just a suggestion. You can definitely get a better deal on a receiver without that functionality. You can also buy an external HDMI switch in the future if you need more HDMI inputs.
post #54 of 2215
How is the black level on these panels?
post #55 of 2215
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Originally Posted by LJ25 View Post

How is the black level on these panels?

I just had it turned on for like a couple of hours and so far the black levels seem to be pretty good. I will post a note if I find otherwise.
post #56 of 2215
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Originally Posted by Pavman1 View Post

Any opinions on how this compares to the PL5000 - reason being is that the old more expensive PL500 is being clearenced a to a local store for the same price as the PL5060.

I like the sd card inputs on the PL5000 but how does the old Panasonic screen stack up to the newer gen LG???

Thanks


Anyone seen the two together??
post #57 of 2215
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Originally Posted by Lumberg View Post

Here's the fourth pic. These four photos are great examples of how the Zoom-2 will look. I really cuts off the top and bottom as you can tell from my TIVO status bar or the station logos. Not the greatest, but I'll live with it for a while as I break-in the TV.

How did you do these attachments? I have pix I want to attach without going the posting to my photo gallery and linking route.
post #58 of 2215
I am the proud owner of an HP PL4260n. But I'm a newbie in the Plasma world. Thank you all for this forum thread. I too have noticed the difference in volume from DVD (lower volume) to satellite channels (higher volume). I guess its normal because of the Digital and Analog feeds. But I look forward to sharing my experience with all of you. Till next time....
post #59 of 2215
Welcome to AVS, and please add your experiences with that new plasma of yours.
post #60 of 2215
I just got back from Bestbuy. They were in the middle of setting up the new HP PL5060N when I got there. Pictures quality looks really good. It was setup next to 50" a Sasumg, Philips, 2 LGs, and a 60" Pioneer. Out of all the screens it was next to, I thought the HP had best PQ. Color out of the box was very good. The black levels were not as good as the Pioneer. My biggest complaint asthetics of the speakers. I miss the glossy finish of the previous model.

But for the price... it pretty much shot up to the top of my list.
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