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post #61 of 900
Any of you new owners try a PC connection yet through component or the HDMI input?
post #62 of 900
The 787 series must be making a very slow trickle onto the marketplace. I've only heard of three people (the guys here) who have one. I've not heard nor seen a peep out of it at any of the stores in my area (Charlotte - Metrolina). Those of you who do have it seem to be very happy with it. I now wish that I could have waited long enough to buy one. While I'm happy with my Vizio P42-HDTV in hi-def and XBox 360 applications, I'm mostly disappointed with it in SD. It's lack of vibrance really rears its head in that dept. I'd rather watch SD broadcasts on my 32" Toshiba SDTV (CRT) in most cases.

The real capper though is the screen size... when I first brought the 42" Vizio into my living room, it looked big - too big. Now, it seems to have lost its immediacy, especially for video gaming. I either pull an ottoman in front of the couch, or pull a high back chair up in front of the couch. That puts me about 8' from the screen, which seems to be ideal for a 42" screen.

Bottom line is this... the viewing charts are right - you need a 50-52" screen to get the home theater effect from a viewing distance of 10-12'. If my buying club store ever stocks these (and I have no reason to think they ever will), I'll trade up my Vizio in a heartbeat for one!
post #63 of 900
Going to be 10-15 days
post #64 of 900
Well, I'm back to eat my words written earlier today. I stopped by Best Buy while I was out gallavanting around, and lo and behold, they had just set up their 56" 787..... Holy Moly!! what a beautiful machine The picture was absolutely gorgeous - no other rear screen projection set in the store touched it, IMO (they didn't have a Sony SXRD on display for some reason, but memory tells me that I might have even been more impressed with what I saw on the 787).

I absolutely love the styling of the 787's cabinet; it's understated, yet elegant. I've got to go flog myself some more for not holding off on my Vizio purchase and waiting on this baby doll.... Gawd I'm envious of you who are buying this set - it puts mine to shame.
post #65 of 900
Good to hear the positive reports on this set. I know when the first JVC hdila models came out there was a lot of excitement (that died out...like everything here...). I remember going to my local best buy and thinking it was easily the best TV in the place per my eye.

Maybe that's exaggerated color, some sort of "fake effect" or anything else the nay-sayers will throw out...but to me, it doesn't matter. If I'm watching something and it looks that good, that's real to me.

It was the first hi-def TV that actually impressed me. I didn't have the cash, and the q-control issues scared me off anyway. The idea that this tv is even better is a nice thought. I'll have to slide by best buy and check it out.

Any feedback on the PC image over HDMI? That's still going to make or break the deal for me in the end.

Nick
post #66 of 900
Thread Starter 
I'm going to try a vga cable and if that doesn't turn out so well then I'll just drop the idea of hooking my computer up to the tv. Unless you guys know an effective and cost efficient way to hook a pc up to hdmi then I probably won't bother. My house is wireless so I can just sit with my laptop and surf while watching TV. I was just hopeing to be able to play a few pc games on the big screen. I'm still just flipping through the HD channels and enjoying it. I've never watched so much PBS in my life.

I did hook up my game cube through s-video and played some Metroid Prime 2. I don't think 480i games were meant to be played on a 52 inch tv. I'll try it again soon and get a second opinion on how it looks. I don't think it's the tv, I just think 480i games on a 52 inch TV look stretched out. Maybe I can find some component cables and try that out. Any suggestions, or is the widely accepted opinion that 480i games won't look great on big screen tv's, just like standard definition broadcasts?
post #67 of 900
Does your video card have a DVI out? If not, is it a ATI card? If so, get the VGA to component adapter and use the component in.

It's really worth it to have a DVI out video card (less than $130).

I doubt the VGA will do anything better than 1024x768, but please try.
post #68 of 900
Thread Starter 
VideoBruce,

Escuse my ignorance of computer display and help me out. If the TV's highest resolution is 1280x720 and the vga connection won't do any better than 1024x768, what do I gain by moving to component or hdmi, which I'm assuming is for the purpose of a higher resolution?

Ideally I would like for the tv to accept a 1280x720 signal through the vga input.
post #69 of 900
For some reason the VGA doesn't sync up to anything greater than 1024x768 (at least with the older sets AFAIK). Component will (or should) and so should HDMI.

These aren't the only sets that have inputs that don't work correctly.
post #70 of 900
What video card do u have?
post #71 of 900
Often times DVI or HDMI will run at a higher resolution than VGA. The advantage in this case is that your display which is designed to show 1280x720 would be able to with a DVI-HDMI adapter.

There are a couple of considerations to get this working. Your video card needs to have DVI output. You need a DVI-to-HDMI cable to plug into one of the HDMI inputs on the TV. Then things should work.

I don't specifically need VGA to do full input. I can always get a HDMI switch.

Nick
post #72 of 900
Can any owners of the 87 series comment on the vertical viewing angle? I'm looking for a 50ish inch set for a multi-use type room - and my viewing height will range from 78" to 30". So far, most RPTVs I've seen really suck in this regard so I don't expect anything different here. My local stores don't seem to be stocking this set so I can't verify in person. Plasma seems to be by far my best, and basically only, option but I have a couple of weeks to finalize my decision.
post #73 of 900
How far back from the TV will you be? Your 30" should be no problem, but 78" will be a problem most anywhere. I own the 56G886 series and when standing at 15 feet back (70" height), the picture is definitely darker, and will be worse the closer you get. The 52" will be even worse at that height.
esteps

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Originally Posted by pheroy View Post

Can any owners of the 87 series comment on the vertical viewing angle? I'm looking for a 50ish inch set for a multi-use type room - and my viewing height will range from 78" to 30". So far, most RPTVs I've seen really suck in this regard so I don't expect anything different here. My local stores don't seem to be stocking this set so I can't verify in person. Plasma seems to be by far my best, and basically only, option but I have a couple of weeks to finalize my decision.
post #74 of 900
I just got the 52G886, I hope I can join the club
post #75 of 900
Thread Starter 
I'll have to check and see what video card I have when I get home. I'm pretty sure it's a standard, run of the mill on the motherboard that doesn't have dvi out, considering I bought this computer over 2 years ago.

I'll try the VGA and if it only does 1024x768 I'll be fine, for now.

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I just got the 52G886, I hope I can join the club

Congratulations.

Unless there is something unique about the 886 you must have, you might want to try and upgrade to the 887. It might not be too late and the there is no price difference where I got mine from. Don't feel bad if you can't though, you got yourself a nice TV.
post #76 of 900
I got the 886 at closeout price. I paid 1224 for my TV, I don't think I can get the 887 for that price. Also so far I have had no luck connecting my computer to the TV, but I have only tried the VGA. I need to get a DVI to HDMI and then try that.
post #77 of 900
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Originally Posted by AJP69 View Post

I got the 886 at closeout price. I paid 1224 for my TV, I don't think I can get the 887 for that price. Also so far I have had no luck connecting my computer to the TV, but I have only tried the VGA. I need to get a DVI to HDMI and then try that.

That's pretty damn cheap. Good job. We may catch some conversation compatability issues and you may be better served in this thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=528179
post #78 of 900
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Originally Posted by esteps View Post

How far back from the TV will you be? Your 30" should be no problem, but 78" will be a problem most anywhere. I own the 56G886 series and when standing at 15 feet back (70" height), the picture is definitely darker, and will be worse the closer you get. The 52" will be even worse at that height.
esteps

I'll be about 9-10 feet at the 78" position, which sounds like it will be pretty brutal. That's also where I most want it to be enjoyable - it's an exercise station, and the goal of this in the first place is to entice me there more often. So if that spot is particularly bad -- and my observations in stores and other feedback so far agree that would be the case -- then it's a non-starter. The irony is that I've never been particularly drawn to considering the "sexy" flat panel plasma in the past but it seems to be the only practical option for this setup. (Other than direct view CRT, which of course isn't available in this size, and I can't imagine having a TV heavier than my existing 250lb 36" set!)
post #79 of 900
Quote:
I paid 1224 for my TV

Holy s***!
post #80 of 900
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by pheroy View Post

I'll be about 9-10 feet at the 78" position, which sounds like it will be pretty brutal. That's also where I most want it to be enjoyable - it's an exercise station, and the goal of this in the first place is to entice me there more often. So if that spot is particularly bad -- and my observations in stores and other feedback so far agree that would be the case -- then it's a non-starter. The irony is that I've never been particularly drawn to considering the "sexy" flat panel plasma in the past but it seems to be the only practical option for this setup. (Other than direct view CRT, which of course isn't available in this size, and I can't imagine having a TV heavier than my existing 250lb 36" set!)

pheroy,

Send me the x, and y measurements in inches so I can test this out for you.

X being the vertical distance from the top of the screen to your eyes, and Y being the distance from the screen to you. Refer to the image below for my definitions of X and Y.

You may have already given this information but I'm not sure if I'm reading it correctly, so this is just to clear up confusion on my part.
LL
post #81 of 900
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Originally Posted by pheroy View Post

Can any owners of the 87 series comment on the vertical viewing angle? I'm looking for a 50ish inch set for a multi-use type room - and my viewing height will range from 78" to 30". So far, most RPTVs I've seen really suck in this regard so I don't expect anything different here. My local stores don't seem to be stocking this set so I can't verify in person. Plasma seems to be by far my best, and basically only, option but I have a couple of weeks to finalize my decision.


I don't think you'll have that much of a problem if any at all. I have the 61z786 and my workout room is in view of the set as well. At 78" from 12' away there is no problem with the viewing angle whatsoever. The vert viewing angle on the 786 is excellent compared to other rptv's. I would think that the 787 is similar to the 786, but who knows.

My set sits on the JVC swivel stand.
post #82 of 900
Yes, I think if you get a 61" set and place it on a higher stand you should have no problems at 78". Of course, a smaller set placed higher will accomplish the same thing.
esteps

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Originally Posted by bluevelvet86 View Post

I don't think you'll have that much of a problem if any at all. I have the 61z786 and my workout room is in view of the set as well. At 78" from 12' away there is no problem with the viewing angle whatsoever. The vert viewing angle on the 786 is excellent compared to other rptv's. I would think that the 787 is similar to the 786, but who knows.

My set sits on the JVC swivel stand.
post #83 of 900
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Originally Posted by esteps View Post

Yes, I think if you get a 61" set and place it on a higher stand you should have no problems at 78". Of course, a smaller set placed higher will accomplish the same thing.
esteps

Speaking of stands, I'm looking for a stand for the 52g787 I've ordered. What are you guys using? I was thinking about going with the Bush Furniture VS53936 - the only problem I see with this stand is there is no center channel room. I would need to build/buy a support to put the center on top of the TV.

Any thoughts?
post #84 of 900
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Originally Posted by hi-rez View Post

Speaking of stands, I'm looking for a stand for the 52g787 I've ordered. What are you guys using? I was thinking about going with the Bush Furniture VS53936 - the only problem I see with this stand is there is no center channel room. I would need to build/buy a support to put the center on top of the TV.

Any thoughts?

I have a simple little stand I got at target a few years ago, it actually works well. I paid $100 for it.

Picture of the TV on the stand
http://www.reefbucket.com//files/1/hdila%20001.jpg
post #85 of 900
Ok, if we're talking "cheap" take a look at this--
Kmart, Ebony Coffee Table #103181, 80 bucks (was on sale for 60).
esteps

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Originally Posted by hi-rez View Post

Speaking of stands, I'm looking for a stand for the 52g787 I've ordered. What are you guys using? I was thinking about going with the Bush Furniture VS53936 - the only problem I see with this stand is there is no center channel room. I would need to build/buy a support to put the center on top of the TV.

Any thoughts?
post #86 of 900
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by pheroy View Post

I'll be about 9-10 feet at the 78" position, which sounds like it will be pretty brutal. That's also where I most want it to be enjoyable - it's an exercise station, and the goal of this in the first place is to entice me there more often. So if that spot is particularly bad -- and my observations in stores and other feedback so far agree that would be the case -- then it's a non-starter. The irony is that I've never been particularly drawn to considering the "sexy" flat panel plasma in the past but it seems to be the only practical option for this setup. (Other than direct view CRT, which of course isn't available in this size, and I can't imagine having a TV heavier than my existing 250lb 36" set!)

I checked things out based on the measurements you sent me and everything seemed great. I took some pictures from the measurements you gave me and can post them sometime soon. I even went up a little higher ( standing on furniture ) and I didn't notice any problems with the picture, like I've seen with other TV's I was looking at when going through the purchasing process. The only time things get iffy is from the sides, but you have to be in an extreme spot that you wouldn't want to be watching from even if you had a crt or plasma to get that problem.
post #87 of 900
what is the main difference in the 787 and 887.It looks like the 787 had a silver bottom and 887 is all black.I was watching the 61G887 at work the past couple of days and looks nice.Only thing cosmetics wise is.The TV has a nice look and well saves space with speakers on the bottom.The bad is they use the same stand for all sizes.So the 61 sticks over about 3-4 inches on each side and hangs off the back about 2 inches.
post #88 of 900
Thread Starter 
The 787 is all black, the 887 is silver.
post #89 of 900
Have just purchased the 52G787 and was wondering from other owners of this or other JVC's whether the internal scaler is effective or would an upconversion DVD player be needed
post #90 of 900
Brian Pool let me know he should be shipping my TV out Tuesday, hopefully making it in time for next weekend

dbone, any more thoughts on the set now that you've had it a while?
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