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post #61 of 506
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Originally Posted by gangrew View Post

Why do they feel that they need to change foreign movies for the US audience in the first place?

Because they think we are too sensitive....as well as being naive, ignorant, and sissified fundamentalist nutjobs.
post #62 of 506
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Does anyone know if the unrated Battle Royale that netflix has is altered, or is the same cut as other regions.


I haven't rented it but I believe it is the extended cut of the film after reading some of the comments on Netflix. It is the version where they went back 6 mo. after the initial release and filmed more scenes showing how the relationship w/ the kids was before their ordeal. I actually prefer the original theatrical cut because of the tighter editing. It just flowed better.
post #63 of 506
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Because they think we are too sensitive....as well as being naive, ignorant, and sissified fundamentalist nutjobs.

Ok that hurt my feelings


I can't wait to see this and hope they release a unrated dvd in the US.
post #64 of 506
The trailer I saw...at least I thought...said it was coming out at the Theaters this summer. Everyone is talking DVD. What am I missing?

http://www.thedescentfilm.com/

Shows an August release with a trailer for SAW III at the movies. Is this the same movie that everyone is talking about here?
post #65 of 506
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The trailer I saw...at least I thought...said it was coming out at the Theaters this summer. Everyone is talking DVD. What am I missing?

http://www.thedescentfilm.com/

Shows an August release with a trailer for SAW III at the movies. Is this the same movie that everyone is talking about here?

The Descent was an English movie, and has come out on dvd in England. Now its being released in the theaters here finally, and we hear that we are getting a slightly watered-down version, like heaven forbid we Americans could handle what the rest of the world can. We are hoping that when it ultimately comes out on dvd a few months after the theater release here, that they will give us an "unrated" version equal to the English version.

Are you sure about the August 11 date for Saw III? I have seen that date for Pulse, with an August 4th date for The Descent, and a later August date for Snakes on a Plane. I though Saw III was being held for October, anybody know for sure?
post #66 of 506
Again, I ask: Is the movie being completely remade for the US by US actors, or is it just being released here in the original form to theaters? From the previews, it seems the girls are speaking without an English accent.
post #67 of 506
Spyder,


I don't believe this is a remake of the original British version from last year.
However, I have been hearing that some of the shock and awe may be removed for U.S. wusses.

Do yourself a favor...f*ck all that and order the PAL version from Amazon's UK site.
I did...it has a great DTS soundtrack and near reference video.
PM me and I'll give you more details if you need them.

Do it, bud...order this puppy!
post #68 of 506
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Originally Posted by spyder696969 View Post

Again, I ask: Is the movie being completely remade for the US by US actors, or is it just being released here in the original form to theaters? From the previews, it seems the girls are speaking without an English accent.

Some of the women are Americans. I think from what has been said here, the US version is the British version with the "pussy" ending. Watering down the ending is extremely easy to do given the way the movie progresses at the end. No real extra work required.

larry
post #69 of 506
Actually I believe only one of the characters is American. Interestingly the actress is English. Watched it tonite. Awesome. There are English, Irish and scottish characters I believe. If the trailers here have them all sounding American than all I can guess is that they dubbed it and that would be ass,...
I think it would get an NC-17 here in the states for the gore and that's why they are trimming it. It is VERY gory, almost excessively so. Also, are they gonna give the "happy" ending...?

post #70 of 506
No way they'll dub it. Too much work and it's not like they're all talking with thick cockney accents or something.

larry
post #71 of 506
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Originally Posted by yankeeman View Post

The Descent was an English movie, and has come out on dvd in England. Now its being released in the theaters here finally, and we hear that we are getting a slightly watered-down version, like heaven forbid we Americans could handle what the rest of the world can. We are hoping that when it ultimately comes out on dvd a few months after the theater release here, that they will give us an "unrated" version equal to the English version.

Are you sure about the August 11 date for Saw III? I have seen that date for Pulse, with an August 4th date for The Descent, and a later August date for Snakes on a Plane. I though Saw III was being held for October, anybody know for sure?


The SAW III Trailor will be shown during The Descent in August.
post #72 of 506
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

No way they'll dub it. Too much work and it's not like they're all talking with thick cockney accents or something.

larry


Agreed...
However, don't anyone that hasn't seen it think for a second this is a wimpy movie, it ain't...by any stretch.
post #73 of 506
Oh, yea. If they only change the ending, it will be a supreme copout, but the movie will still be intense.

larry
post #74 of 506
I have a feeling that they will remove quite a bit of gore as well as maybe the initial "happy" ending...

post #75 of 506
I don't remember it being that gory. I'm pretty sure I've seen the original version. Maybe I'm just desensitized (after seeing High Tension). But as long as the US release has the same dreadful vibe, it should be fine.

What's bothing me, is that when I saw it, I never saw a trailer. Now that it's being release in the US, there are nothing but trailers. At least one of these trailers I see constantly,
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is giving away one of the most terrifying jump scenes I have ever experience viewing a film! The "is anybody there!" scene


Why must they do that??
post #76 of 506
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Originally Posted by alpha21 View Post

I don't remember it being that gory. I'm pretty sure I've seen the original version. Maybe I'm just desensitized (after seeing High Tension). But as long as the US release has the same dreadful vibe, it should be fine.

I agree with your assessment on the gore factor-- I don't consider it gory at all. Saw and FEARDOTCOMDOTCOMDOTORG seemed much gorier to me than The Descent. There are maybe a couple of scenes that depict gore on the level of either of the two films mentioned above. However, and with that said, "gore" is not the focus or intent of The Descent. In my opinion, this is a tension movie-- gore is sidelined by suspense and, well, the whole "running around in the dark" factor.

Also, I can't imagine the film being dubbed for Americans. When I first popped in the DVD, I wondered in advance if I should turn on subtitles before the beginning of the feature (fearing a Trainspotting-like listening experience), but I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to understand the actors' intonations, pitch, and vernacular.
post #77 of 506
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...FEARDOTCOMDOTCOMDOTORG...

Pretty good, for a new member!
post #78 of 506
I guess it depends. In comparison to say, High Tension, yes it's less gory but there's still PLENTY of gore, are you kidding? Granted there are ALOT of quick cuts but it's pretty bloody if you ask me. I'd say it's gorier than say any of the Friday the 13th flicks...

post #79 of 506
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Originally Posted by spyder696969 View Post

Pretty good, for a new member!


Oh, it's ON now, Mr. 2005!!!


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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

I guess it depends. In comparison to say, High Tension, yes it's less gory but there's still PLENTY of gore, are you kidding? Granted there are ALOT of quick cuts but it's pretty bloody if you ask me. I'd say it's gorier than say any of the Friday the 13th flicks...

I dunno here. I don't think comparing The Descent to the F13 movies is a reaching comparison. In my opinion, The Descent's purpose wasn't to outdo the last $10m gore flick (ala the F13 movies) in the theaters. It's a bit like saying The English Patient's purpose was to outdo Lawrence of Arabia, because they both took place in the desert. Sure, they have common themes, but they're nothing alike.

With that said, I'm not saying The Descent is LoA. I'm just saying that it delivered on being a good horror film (easily the best in a few years), without relying on too many cliches.
post #80 of 506
I guess the gore bar has raised in the last 10 years. I mean, no, it's not Re-Animator or Dead Alive level gore but those were comic books IMHO.
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Within the first 5 minutes you have a steel pipe bust through somebody's head, later there is a pretty graphic compound fracture, a main character gets whacked through the neck and you see the pick protruding through the neck and you see a few characters get munched on alive.
Maybe it's me...


post #81 of 506
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

I guess the gore bar has raised in the last 10 years. I mean, no, it's not Re-Animator or Dead Alive level gore but those were comic books IMHO.
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Within the first 5 minutes you have a steel pipe bust through somebody's head, later there is a pretty graphic compound fracture, a main character gets whacked through the neck and you see the pick protruding through the neck and you see a few characters get munched on alive.
Maybe it's me...



I guess maybe I don't find them as gory because
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the thing through the head part happens fast and is more of an unexpected death thing, compared to a drawn out look away scene. As for the others, they (much like most horror movies) happen in dark light environments. This IMO makes the gore less intense because you can't exactly see it as clearly


The reason I brought up High Tension for gore factor comparison is because of the scene where
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the Mom is killed in and EXTREMELY lit room, where blood is continually spraying on a bright white closet door. Then when you actually see the aftermath, again the room is extremely lit and the amount of blood and visability of the slit throat is insane!! Then you throw in the fact that she all of a sudden moves, makes this scene one of the most disgustingly difficult scene I've seen in a LONG time!!


It has much more of a realizism factor than a Friday the 13th or the like movie.
post #82 of 506
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Originally Posted by alpha21 View Post

I guess maybe I don't find them as gory because
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the thing through the head part happens fast and is more of an unexpected death thing, compared to a drawn out look away scene. As for the others, they (much like most horror movies) happen in dark light environments. This IMO makes the gore less intense because you can't exactly see it as clearly


The reason I brought up High Tension for gore factor comparison is because of the scene where
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the Mom is killed in and EXTREMELY lit room, where blood is continually spraying on a bright white closet door. Then when you actually see the aftermath, again the room is extremely lit and the amount of blood and visability of the slit throat is insane!! Then you throw in the fact that she all of a sudden moves, makes this scene one of the most disgustingly difficult scene I've seen in a LONG time!!


It has much more of a realizism factor than a Friday the 13th or the like movie.


To me the most difficult and disgusting scene I sat through was the rape scene in Irreversible and that wasn't a horror movie.
post #83 of 506
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Originally Posted by mrhan View Post

To me the most difficult and disgusting scene I sat through was the rape scene in Irreversible and that wasn't a horror movie.

I am purposely avoiding it, because I know I won't be able to stomach it
post #84 of 506
The opening scene is pretty harsh too! Made me stop eating my movie snack and that's rare!!!!
post #85 of 506
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To me the most difficult and disgusting scene I sat through was the rape scene in Irreversible and that wasn't a horror movie.


Hmmmm....haven't seen it.
Not much disgusts me more however.
post #86 of 506
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I didnt understand the ending. What exactly happens after the happy ending? Was the happy ending a dream or somthing?
post #87 of 506
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Originally Posted by alpha21 View Post

I guess maybe I don't find them as gory because
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the thing through the head part happens fast and is more of an unexpected death thing, compared to a drawn out look away scene. As for the others, they (much like most horror movies) happen in dark light environments. This IMO makes the gore less intense because you can't exactly see it as clearly


The reason I brought up High Tension for gore factor comparison is because of the scene where
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Spoiler  
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
the Mom is killed in and EXTREMELY lit room, where blood is continually spraying on a bright white closet door. Then when you actually see the aftermath, again the room is extremely lit and the amount of blood and visability of the slit throat is insane!! Then you throw in the fact that she all of a sudden moves, makes this scene one of the most disgustingly difficult scene I've seen in a LONG time!!


It has much more of a realizism factor than a Friday the 13th or the like movie.


The last spoiler sounds extremelly like the scene from "The Hills have eyes".
post #88 of 506
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The last spoiler sounds extremelly like the scene from "The Hills have eyes".

Doesn't look like it though. Two different things.

larry
post #89 of 506
Wow, watched this last night, I can see why they will be toning it down for US audiences, I personally liked it, but it does have some disturbing scenes, the gore is there but the way in which it is presented I could see being unsettling to alot of viewers.

My only complaint is the cast, they weren't bad actors perse they just didn't seem to be very well developed as "extreme cavers" like I was hoping for, it was more of a sorority party in a cave.
post #90 of 506
very good horror/adventure. thanks to all here at the forum for the recommendation. well worth 8 pounds (20 bucks or so). this was a horror story on more "realistic" lines.
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